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You are very misguided.
In your personal life you can choose who you want for a partner.
Tall girl, slim girl, fat girl, big tits etc.
You could even go on a singles site and write a profile saying this is your preference.This is personal choice.

In a professional business capacity you couldn't use your singles profile "Personal choice" as the basis for an ad at the employment agency for a secretary.

If the WG's said they only slept with certain types of men in their private life or where even lesbians and didnt sleep with men at I wouldn't take issue.
However their ads in AW are business ads and business should be open to all.

i think it's you that's misguided if you think a prossie is going to do things she does not want to regardless if its right or wrong

Offline Jimmyredcab



Last I checked "racial discrimination" was illegal.


Prostitutes are fully entitled to choose their clients, if they refuse to see black men that is their absolute right.

Why would a black man want to see a pro$$ie who does not want to see them.    :dash: :dash:

Offline yorkshire123

Tut tut tut...not even a hello.

What I find interesting is many of the profiles that are saying "its her choice... etc" are indirectly saying "its ok to practice racial discrimination if its your choice".

Last I checked "racial discrimination" was illegal.
Funny how many of the profiles saying its her choice are the same ones that where incredibly sensitive and all over me on a different thread, continuously questioning whether "threatening behaviour and violence" took place.
Despite me saying several times neither of the two crimes took place they where incredibly concerned about showing punting in a negative light and had an uncontrollable urge to voice their disapproval.Its good to have  members with such outstanding moral fibre.

However these same member seem to support the working girls RIGHT to be racist and their advise is simple...move on.
Stealthagger is one of the few profiles that openly disapproved on this behaviour which is 100% racial discrimination beyond doubt.

The excuses to support this behaviour and apply different excuses such  as choice etc  are ridiculous.
Would you support someones choice to be violent and display threatening behaviour ?


Welcome back SG (out of politeness not in reality)
You seem to feel very strongly about this matter, Why don't you take her to court and see what happens.
I for one hate discrimination in all its forms so i won't be seeing this girl, thats my own personal choice, but if others want to see her (or not) who am i to object?
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Offline smiths

You are very misguided.
In your personal life you can choose who you want for a partner.
Tall girl, slim girl, fat girl, big tits etc.
You could even go on a singles site and write a profile stating your preference....This is all personal choice.

In a professional business capacity you couldn't use your singles profile "Personal choice" as the basis for an ad at the employment agency for a secretary.

If the WG's said they only slept with certain types of men in their private life or where even lesbians and didnt sleep with men at I wouldn't take issue.
However their ads in AW are business ads and business should be open to all and not subject to blatant racism.

The ads are bad enough but the universal acceptance of such ads is more worrying.
The Nazi lost the war RIGHT....and this sort of discrimination was seen throughout the world as a bad thing, did I miss the history class at school which said its ok its your "choice"

This is fantasy but you are a troll so its hardly unexpected. Punting isnt regulated, some WGs have been posting no blacks or asians on their A/W profiles for years and years, and they dont get taken down. So A/W themselves arent bothered and presumably if any other authorities know about it they arent either.

Now IF punting was regulated and WGs couldnt post this stuff it would never be the case in a civilised society that any WG would be forced to punt with a guy she doesnt want to. That would be abhorrent in my view. A WG can choose to punt with whoever she wishes and exclude whoever she wishes for whatever reason she wishes.

I see WGs that exclude say all black and asian punters as failing to view them as the individuals they are, thats wrong in my opinion but up to the WG. I dont see WGs say no whites welcome despite the fact i have read about some white punters causing WGs trouble. What this shows me is a WG judges she can afford to exclude minority races but not ALL White punters. Yes its racist thinking which is wrong but only education can resolve this which takes time as i see it.

Offline Sadgit

i think it's you that's misguided if you think a prossie is going to do things she does not want to regardless if its right or wrong

Have you read what I said.
Im not saying your going to change a WG into not being racist anymore than you are any other individual in society.

My issue is the majority support for their racist behaviour under the disguise as "personal choice".
Its a "personal choice" to be racist and I cant see why they haven't been labelled as racist as opposed to being supported as individuals practising personal choice.

If a working girl gives a shit service she gets a negative review, if an agency does a B&S its a negative review.
All aspects of a working girl are reviewed unless she has a racist profile.
That's not an issue and everybody can let it slide by.....nothing negative here !!

Its institutional racism that takes place throughout the industry by the WG and the punters that excuse it as personal "choice" etc.
it takes place and nothing is done to stop it or show disapproval.




Have you read what I said.
Im not saying your going to change a WG into not being racist anymore than you are any other individual in society.

My issue is the majority support for their racist behaviour under the disguise as "personal choice".
Its a "personal choice" to be racist and I cant see why they haven't been labelled as racist as opposed to being supported as individuals practising personal choice.

If a working girl gives a shit service she gets a negative review, if an agency does a B&S its a negative review.
All aspects of a working girl are reviewed unless she has a racist profile.
That's not an issue and everybody can let it slide by.....nothing negative here !!

Its institutional racism that takes place throughout the industry by the WG and the punters that excuse it as personal "choice" etc.
it takes place and nothing is done to stop it or show disapproval.


where did I say it was right?? did you read what I wrote? of course its not right, but I can'c change that.

and before you ask if I read what you wrote, no I didn;t as it was the same boring crap you always come out with trying to turn it to one of your older posts

Offline Jimmyredcab



My issue is the majority support for their racist behaviour under the disguise as "personal choice".


smiths just called you a Troll -------------------- I will do the same, you are a Troll.

Why you are still here is a total mystery to me.     :unknown: :unknown:

Offline Sadgit

Prostitutes are fully entitled to choose their clients, if they refuse to see black men that is their absolute right.

Why would a black man want to see a pro$$ie who does not want to see them.    :dash: :dash:

Are you for real...
I agree why would a black man want to see a WG that didnt want him there and the same could be said for all forms of racist act.

If Branson said no Jews on my trains would you say why would Jews want to go on a train when they are not welcomed,

Its a basic human right that all humans should be treated the same, so instead of suggestion they Jews use another service or walk a decent society would collectively show disapproval of Bransons choice of no JEWS and choose to use another train provider in support.
Unless of  course they didnt give a crap about Jews or secretly agreed with his "choice" and find it more comfortable to say "choice" than anti semitic etc.

Personally I think many of the response here fall into these categories.


Offline Sadgit

Welcome back SG (out of politeness not in reality)
You seem to feel very strongly about this matter, Why don't you take her to court and see what happens.
I for one hate discrimination in all its forms so i won't be seeing this girl, thats my own personal choice, but if others want to see her (or not) who am i to object?

There are many issue in the world id put right if I could, punting and working girls arent even on the list

Offline Jimmyredcab

Are you for real...


Very much so, which is more than can be said for you.     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline smiths

Are you for real...
I agree why would a black man want to see a WG that didnt want him there and the same could be said for all forms of racist act.

If Branson said no Jews on my trains would you say why would Jews want to go on a train when they are not welcomed,

Its a basic human right that all humans should be treated the same, so instead of suggestion they Jews use another service or walk a decent society would collectively show disapproval of Bransons choice of no JEWS and choose to use another train provider in support.
Unless of  course they didnt give a crap about Jews or secretly agreed with his "choice" and find it more comfortable to say "choice" than anti semitic etc.

Personally I think many of the response here fall into these categories.

I have explained that even if punting was fully regulated like Bransons trains a WG couldnt and in a civilised society wouldnt be forced against her will to punt with a guy she doesnt wish to for whatever reason.

So do you agree its right a WG has a choice for whatever reason or do you believe a WG should be forced to punt with ALL punters and have no choice at all?

Offline vorian

I have explained that even if punting was fully regulated like Bransons trains a WG couldnt and in a civilised society wouldnt be forced against her will to punt with a guy she doesnt wish to for whatever reason.

So do you agree its right a WG has a choice for whatever reason or do you believe a WG should be forced to punt with ALL punters and have no choice at all?

I like your argument Smiths, yes punting is best when thought of as a business, however it is an unusual and unique business and that needs to be taken into account.
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Offline Sadgit

Very much so, which is more than can be said for you.     :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Just double checking you are the same Jimmy that posted.

So she has a big black pimp, no surprise there.     :vomit:
Trollop.    :thumbsdown:

Just wanted to make sure your position is neutral, calling it as you see it etc and dont have any racial issues of your own.

Offline Sadgit

I have explained that even if punting was fully regulated like Bransons trains a WG couldnt and in a civilised society wouldnt be forced against her will to punt with a guy she doesnt wish to for whatever reason.

So do you agree its right a WG has a choice for whatever reason or do you believe a WG should be forced to punt with ALL punters and have no choice at all?

Smiths
Still a little perplexed with your position.
First you call me a TROLL and advocate I be banned and then you try to correspond on a different level.
Is there some sort of split personality going on or do you only call me TROLL when the heat is on.

Why would you correspond with someone you believe to be a troll.

I can answer your question quite easily but would like an answer to this and in return I will answer the question you posed.
 

Offline Sadgit

I have explained that even if punting was fully regulated like Bransons trains a WG couldnt and in a civilised society wouldnt be forced against her will to punt with a guy she doesnt wish to for whatever reason.

So do you agree its right a WG has a choice for whatever reason or do you believe a WG should be forced to punt with ALL punters and have no choice at all?

Shit ...Ill answer it anyway.

I dont believe nor have I ever stated WG's should be forced to punt against their will regardless of the reason.
My post have been consistent in stating WG's are likely to be racist as any other group in society.
Trying to ban it can be done in certain working environments but there's  little governments can do about WG's

I gave an example of a disabled guy I wanted to give a job and hope you read that to fully understand my position.

There was nothing I could do about the infrastructure that discriminated against him but I would never support it and excuse it as "their choice"   
The lack of negative response and turning a blind eye to these ads indirectly gives the practice acceptance and indirect support.

If negative reviews and comments such as "choice" where correctly labeled as "racist choice" perhaps others would see it for what it really is.
I have seen polls and reviews outing all the deplorable actions of WG's apart from racist.

Hope this helps to explain




« Last Edit: April 16, 2014, 02:54:06 PM by Sadgit »

Offline vorian

Shit ...Ill answer it anyway.

I dont believe nor have I ever stated WG's should be forced to punt against their will regardless of the reason.
My post have been consistent in stating WG's are likely to be racist as any other group in society.
Trying to ban it can be done in certain working environments but there's  little governments can do about WG's

I gave an example of a disabled guy I wanted to give a job and hope you read that to fully understand my position.

There was nothing I could do about the infrastructure that discriminated against him but I would never support it and excuse it as "their choice"   
The lack of negative response and turning a blind eye to these ads indirectly gives the practice acceptance and indirect support.

If negative reviews and comments such as "choice" where correctly labeled as "racist choice" perhaps others would see it for what it really is.
I have seen polls and reviews outing all the deplorable actions of WG's apart from racist.

Hope this helps to explain

Well in that case, I will stand up and say I am a Racist because I support a prossies choice not to see a punter for any reason including the colour of his or her skin.  :hi:
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Shit ...Ill answer it anyway.

I dont believe nor have I ever stated WG's should be forced to punt against their will regardless of the reason.
My post have been consistent in stating WG's are likely to be racist as any other group in society.
Trying to ban it can be done in certain working environments but there's  little governments can do about WG's

I gave an example of a disabled guy I wanted to give a job and hope you read that to fully understand my position.

There was nothing I could do about the infrastructure that discriminated against him but I would never support it and excuse it as "their choice"   
The lack of negative response and turning a blind eye to these ads indirectly gives the practice acceptance and indirect support.

If negative reviews and comments such as "choice" where correctly labeled as "racist choice" perhaps others would see it for what it really is.
I have seen polls and reviews outing all the deplorable actions of WG's apart from racist.

Hope this helps to explain

you state that you can't force  a WG and that the law is also  unable to so why harp on about it

you then give an example of a disabled guy you wanted to give a job to, but as you state earlier, the same laws can't be applied to a WG

and then you use the Racist word when Dee has not refused to see all black guys , and that she is happy to see black guys that she has seen before, but is not happy to see new ones as she is frightened for her safty

how is that racist ?

Offline smiths

Smiths
Still a little perplexed with your position.
First you call me a TROLL and advocate I be banned and then you try to correspond on a different level.
Is there some sort of split personality going on or do you only call me TROLL when the heat is on.

Why would you correspond with someone you believe to be a troll.

I can answer your question quite easily but would like an answer to this and in return I will answer the question you posed.
 

I have no problem responding to trolls, they ALWAYS get found out sooner or later. Its not up to me if you get banned, admin have already banned you for 3 days was it so you have already shown you cant post in a reasonable way to admins standard and you have only been posting for a very short period of time.

No idea what you mean by the heat being on, i await your reply to my previous question.

Offline smiths

Shit ...Ill answer it anyway.

I dont believe nor have I ever stated WG's should be forced to punt against their will regardless of the reason.
My post have been consistent in stating WG's are likely to be racist as any other group in society.
Trying to ban it can be done in certain working environments but there's  little governments can do about WG's

I gave an example of a disabled guy I wanted to give a job and hope you read that to fully understand my position.

There was nothing I could do about the infrastructure that discriminated against him but I would never support it and excuse it as "their choice"   
The lack of negative response and turning a blind eye to these ads indirectly gives the practice acceptance and indirect support.

If negative reviews and comments such as "choice" where correctly labeled as "racist choice" perhaps others would see it for what it really is.
I have seen polls and reviews outing all the deplorable actions of WG's apart from racist.

Hope this helps to explain

So you agree a WG should have free choice over what guys she punts with. But you would like to see punters condemn WGs who put on their profiles say no black or asians welcome as racists.

Offline Sadgit

Well in that case, I will stand up and say I am a Racist because I support a prossies choice not to see a punter for any reason including the colour of his or her skin.  :hi:

I dont know if you are a racist as your declaration is really one of supporting racism because you see the matter to be personal choice as opposed to a ct of racism.

If Jimmy said no blacks in my cab would you support that to.
Just curious if you see every act as personal choice and at what point (if any) does the personal choice become a racist personal choice ?

 



If Jimmy said no blacks in my cab would you support that to.
Just curious if you see every act as personal choice and at what point (if any) does the personal choice become a racist personal choice ?

as pointed out by yourself, this is not the same thing as the law can enforce this !!!!!

or is it an attempt to goad Jimmy ?

Offline Sadgit

So you agree a WG should have free choice over what guys she punts with. But you would like to see punters condemn WGs who put on their profiles say no black or asians welcome as racists.

Ive never stated otherwise with regard to freedom of choice.
Its freedom of choice why we have racist in the first place. Although I dont agree with racist I defend their right to be racist in their "personal" life and harbor racist views.
Its only when your actions have an impact on someone else you have committed a act of racism.
People get found guilty of racist acts not thoughts.

I think the industry is full of lowlives and behaving in a racist manner is accepted by many who are either racist themselves or really dont give a crap so are supporting it by allowing it.

I just think its very hypocritical to support some acts as "choice" and other get written up as "negative" review.
It gives credence to the belief racism is not an issue here cause we dont care.


Offline Sadgit

I have no problem responding to trolls, they ALWAYS get found out sooner or later. Its not up to me if you get banned, admin have already banned you for 3 days was it so you have already shown you cant post in a reasonable way to admins standard and you have only been posting for a very short period of time.

No idea what you mean by the heat being on, i await your reply to my previous question.

And this claim of troll is supported by what evidence ? at present it seems to be an unfounded allegation.

Offline vorian

I dont know if you are a racist as your declaration is really one of supporting racism because you see the matter to be personal choice as opposed to a ct of racism.

If Jimmy said no blacks in my cab would you support that to.
Just curious if you see every act as personal choice and at what point (if any) does the personal choice become a racist personal choice ?

No I just see a consenting sexual act as a personal choice and in my view a man driving a cab which is available for hire is not the same thing at all. People can argue against that position if they wish to, I guess when it comes down to it consenting is the key point for me and a WG can choose to consent or not.
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Offline Sadgit

as pointed out by yourself, this is not the same thing as the law can enforce this !!!!!

or is it an attempt to goad Jimmy ?

So lets get this right....racism is racism whether it can be enforced is another matter.
It has nothing to do with law.
Different countries have different laws and not to long ago certain parts of our world had laws that either ignored racism or supported it.
That didnt make the acts more or less racist.
You either support the ideology behind it or you don't regardless of the law.

Its not surprising most of the arguments presented support racism although they prefer to call it "personal choice"




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