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Offline visa0049

Hello.

I usually read the negative reviews on there to make sure none of the girls I want to meet are on the list. I also paste the name in yahoo groups search and google to see what links come up.

Just to make sure it Is not one punter with bad experience.

Now after reading few recent posts about people being ripped off and from my understanding at least 50% of the negativism are of people being cheated and losing money.

I want to know what is the opinion and tried and test methods of getting the money back.

You can walk out in the beginning and if you used a car that solid £6 to £10 of fuel lost.
You can try to walk out in the middle of the session and lose 80% of your money.

I do not wish to lose. So good communication from the onset is important.

So you have done all the right things and you meet and money gets exchanged.

Then everything goes bad. 1 pop per hour. No this and that. 1 pop and get out. Shower time included. Extra this and that.

How many times have been told cim included and then its £20 extra. How many times we pay for a BJ and get 90% HJ. How often is it yes yes yes and in fact its no no extra.

Tony Blair once said “education, Education, Education”. Sorry 14 odd years later I am still paying back this “education” and what’s worse the degree is useless for 90% of the things I want to do.

So half truths, semi truths, downright bullshit truths.

So what to do? How to demand the money back. Which words? Body language? What if the pimps there? Worse what happens if its 2 fellas?

What to do? Some of you are rich. I am poor. Sorry my £80 to £120 matters.

I am only talking about cheating after  the money has been exchanged.

David

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A good time is never 100% guaranteed. There is a reason it's called punting. You can use sites like this to tip the scales in your favour significantly, but ultimately, if you can't afford to lose the money, you shouldn't do it. 



Offline vorian

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Offline Matium


I am only talking about cheating after  the money has been exchanged.

David

Women are human beings not machines. That means they can be irrational, flippant, moody or simply not "bovvered".

There can be a million reasons why she's not in a good mood and why you've got such a shit service.

All you can do is write off the money to experience and console yourself with the thought that women with awful attitudes don't last long as prostitutes, unless they're in the Sisterhood and then they become Moderators on Saafe.

Offline k

The value of your investment can go down as well as up so you may get back less than you originally invested. 

If you're lucky though it will go up and down, in and out, forwards and backwards many times before you finally lose your deposit.

Offline LL

What to do? Some of you are rich. I am poor. Sorry my £80 to £120 matters.

Err, no you're not poor!  Otherwise that £80 or £120 would be spent on food or heating bills.  :hi:
Anyway, that's more than I ever spend on a punt and I don't describe myself as poor.

Offline Sedlmayer

So it's not just me then :unknown:

No mate, it's not just you - apart from the incoherence factor going on here  :wacko: he thinks, like other inexperienced posters on this forum, that there are certainties and guarantees in this game.  :dash: As has been pointed out here and many many times previously, it's called punting for a reason. Even the most experienced of us get a so-so punt from time to time, however much due diligence we may do.  :cry:
And, no - you don't get your money back. If that bit worries you, Xhamster.com id free  :yahoo:

Offline Sedlmayer

Women are human beings not machines. That means they can be irrational, flippant, moody or simply not "bovvered".

There can be a million reasons why she's not in a good mood and why you've got such a shit service.

All you can do is write off the money to experience and console yourself with the thought that women with awful attitudes don't last long as prostitutes, unless they're in the Sisterhood and then they become Moderators on Saafe.

Exactly, and one of the reasons punters sometimes get bad service lies within themselves (not always - sometimes).
Women are human, and at the risk of sounding fluffy, if you're punctual, clean, happy, polite etc etc etc, you're liable, all things being equal, to get a better service than if you're not. Sorry, but that's just human nature.
Not saying this is the case with the OP.

Offline LL

Tony Blair once said “education, Education, Education”. Sorry 14 odd years later I am still paying back this “education” and what’s worse the degree is useless for 90% of the things I want to do.
I think the OP is just bitter that he chose the wrong degree!  :hi:

I think the OP is just bitter that he chose the wrong degree!  :hi:

Yeah I am guessing that desmond from Luton in Media Studies hasnt opened many doors

Offline wristjob

David

Well David, first off don't bloody call yourself David unless that's your username.

Second if you keep posting shit like that you'll get banned.

I've been doing this a while. if you click next to my name it says "Reviews". out of 11 reviews 4 were -ve and 1 neutral. Close to 50% were not worth the effort. Not entirely accurate cos I might see a good girl several times but basically if you want variety then this is not the game for you if you deal with disappointment badly.

As for your rights - ffs. If you get a shit service write a review - it will hit her more in her pocket than it hits you. If you get a good service write a review - girls who do a good job deserve to make money out of the biz, and if they make good money they aren't likely to quit next week are they.

Well David, first off don't bloody call yourself David unless that's your username.

Second if you keep posting shit like that you'll get banned.

At least, unlike "his" other two posts, "he" didn't follow "his" David with a "x" on this one, wristjob! :rolleyes:

Online hendrix

What was your previous name here David?  :D  :rolleyes:

Offline vorian

At least, unlike "his" other two posts, "he" didn't follow "his" David with a "x" on this one, wristjob! :rolleyes:

I missed that, so it's a women then, and a not very bright one at that. xx
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At least, unlike "his" other two posts, "he" didn't follow "his" David with a "x" on this one, wristjob! :rolleyes:

I note that this was the first post

I assumed the x was like Mr x or David X

Perhaps to throw people off the scent.

Offline vorian

I note that this was the first post

I assumed the x was like Mr x or David X

Perhaps to throw people off the scent.

Still fucking odd, whatever way you look at it. :unknown:
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Offline Dani

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From what I read he seemed to be asking how to demand all of his money back if he doesn't get what he wants.  That's near the bottom of the ramble.

My answer to this is end the booking very near the start and you may well get some money back but wait until it is almost over and you wont get a penny as you did not complain until the end.  Also demanding money can see you end up in a police station. Asking is one thing but demanding and like you say using your body language to do so will see the girl feeling threatened and likely to call the police.

If things go wrong at the start then say look I paid as you said you offer this and that so I want a refund and I will leave if you are not offering it.  That may work.  a decent prossie will probably say ok sorry and give you your money back.  However if you decide half way through your booking that you are not enjoying it don't expect much back at all as you have already had half the time.  If you wait until right near the end of the booking then you are going to be seen as just trying to get a freebie as anyone who was not happy would have stopped the booking long before.

Its called punting for a reason  It is just like gambling. You pay your money you take the risk.  It should not be like that but as it is unregulated it is.  The best thing to do if you are that worried about it is to stick with well reviewed girls as then unless you are some sort of dick towards her you should get all the services you agreed upon just like everyone else who reviewed her

Offline wristjob

Its called punting for a reason  It is just like gambling. You pay your money you take the risk.  It should not be like that but as it is unregulated it is.

Well sort of. I mean that's the reality. I mean I'd hate this to be seen as carte blanche to rip off punters because they can't do shit about it.

I think the internet has changed things and as sites like UKP get more members the reviews get more influence. Sure some dim girls probably don't get that they do 4 bookings a day instead of 6 because of bad reviews but enough do. I was casually reading a thread on SAAFE a while back about how slow business is - and most the girls were stressing the point of offeing a good service. Starek contrast to how they are portrayed here but I guess the message is striking a chord with savvy girls.

Offline vorian

Well sort of. I mean that's the reality. I mean I'd hate this to be seen as carte blanche to rip off punters because they can't do shit about it.

I think the internet has changed things and as sites like UKP get more members the reviews get more influence. Sure some dim girls probably don't get that they do 4 bookings a day instead of 6 because of bad reviews but enough do. I was casually reading a thread on SAAFE a while back about how slow business is - and most the girls were stressing the point of offeing a good service. Starek contrast to how they are portrayed here but I guess the message is striking a chord with savvy girls.

Agreed,  then it's a case of finding those savvy girls.
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Offline wristjob

Agreed,  then it's a case of finding those savvy girls.

I found one on friday. Toss up between 2 girls and this one had universally good reviews. She's going to have another one soon. The other girl had some issues in her reviews and didn't get my booking.

Funny reall, guys can be so critical and damning of a girl - or so positive.

Offline visa0049

From what I read he seemed to be asking how to demand all of his money back if he doesn't get what he wants.  That's near the bottom of the ramble.

My answer to this is end the booking very near the start and you may well get some money back but wait until it is almost over and you wont get a penny as you did not complain until the end.  Also demanding money can see you end up in a police station. Asking is one thing but demanding and like you say using your body language to do so will see the girl feeling threatened and likely to call the police.

If things go wrong at the start then say look I paid as you said you offer this and that so I want a refund and I will leave if you are not offering it.  That may work.  a decent prossie will probably say ok sorry and give you your money back.  However if you decide half way through your booking that you are not enjoying it don't expect much back at all as you have already had half the time.  If you wait until right near the end of the booking then you are going to be seen as just trying to get a freebie as anyone who was not happy would have stopped the booking long before.

Its called punting for a reason  It is just like gambling. You pay your money you take the risk.  It should not be like that but as it is unregulated it is.  The best thing to do if you are that worried about it is to stick with well reviewed girls as then unless you are some sort of dick towards her you should get all the services you agreed upon just like everyone else who reviewed her

Why is it Dani is the only person to show a positive, understanding and clear response to what I asked. Why is it only one person managed not to insult, degrade or make utterly useless contribution?

Thank you Dani. What I have understood so far is to make clear via phone call and then once at the meeting and get an agreement.

Yes working girls are humans that does not mean they need to get away with simple cheating.

I do not support the motion that because they are humans and prostitutes anyone should make a loss.

I do not accept gambling and punting are the same.

I do not advocate violence. You can have a body language of someone show wrong, guilty, scared or you can stand your ground and be polite.

Looking like a pussy cant and acting like a monkey gets you no where.

I was hoping someone was going to say if there is a huge disagreement. Get dressed and sit on the bed, or request to see her pimp or madam and talk it over.

Please people its better to read and understand. Now if I respond in kind to some posts I will get the ban.

Why? Why cant I be as stupid as others. I choose not to. I am here to learn.

What I have understood so far is talk to Dani and few others. Not post questions.

In the future I will stick with other sections of the forum.

Thank you for reading.

David X.

Why is it Dani is the only person to show a positive, understanding and clear response to what I asked. Why is it only one person managed not to insult, degrade or make utterly useless contribution?

Thank you Dani. What I have understood so far is to make clear via phone call and then once at the meeting and get an agreement.

Yes working girls are humans that does not mean they need to get away with simple cheating.

I do not support the motion that because they are humans and prostitutes anyone should make a loss.

I do not accept gambling and punting are the same.

I do not advocate violence. You can have a body language of someone show wrong, guilty, scared or you can stand your ground and be polite.

Looking like a pussy cant and acting like a monkey gets you no where.

I was hoping someone was going to say if there is a huge disagreement. Get dressed and sit on the bed, or request to see her pimp or madam and talk it over.

Please people its better to read and understand. Now if I respond in kind to some posts I will get the ban.

Why? Why cant I be as stupid as others. I choose not to. I am here to learn.

What I have understood so far is talk to Dani and few others. Not post questions.

In the future I will stick with other sections of the forum.

Thank you for reading.

David X.

The best person for you to do is chat to Horizontal Pleasures on here. Like you he likes to make grand statements and then moan when people take the piss.

My advice is stop all the look me I am superior bollocks contained within your last passive aggressive post.


Offline LL

Why is it Dani is the only person to show a positive, understanding and clear response to what I asked. Why is it only one person managed not to insult, degrade or make utterly useless contribution?
Well not quite, in the first paragraph of her response - she does describe your post as a "ramble". :hi:


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