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Offline NIK

And the latest buzz word of the opinion formers seems to be ‘systemic’.
Throw it into every conversation to show you are ‘on the money’.  :rolleyes:

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And the latest buzz word of the opinion formers seems to be ‘systemic’.
Throw it into every conversation to show you are ‘on the money’.  :rolleyes:

I think it will be the new normal to say that  :lol:

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what about the  the words" the new normal"

Offline Beamer

what about the  the words" the new normal"

So, looking at actionable analytics on a systematic basis, "on the money" becomes the new normal?

Sounds like the yuppy from Only Fools and Horses.   
« Last Edit: June 12, 2020, 08:32:12 am by Beamer »

Offline King Nuts

And the latest buzz word of the opinion formers seems to be ‘systemic’.


It joins its friend 'institutionalised'.

Two words to use when you can't find an identifiable example of something, but you know that it's there.

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My favourite phrase, used by Van-Tam was ‘epidimiological granularity’

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I have a t-shirt that says "systemic systems of structuralised institutions".

I'm hip.

Offline King Nuts

I have a t-shirt that says "systemic systems of structuralised institutions".

I'm hip.

You need to work in 'address', 'issues', 'feed into', 'agenda' and 'repurpose'.

'Addressing issues around systemic systems which feed into an agenda to repurpose institutionalised structures'.

Offline jeanphillipe

It joins its friend 'institutionalised'.

Two words to use when you can't find an identifiable example of something, but you know that it's there.

I like that word institutionalized,  i first came across it after watching Shawshank Redemption.

Used to describe that prisoner who had spent most or his life in prison so when he got out he didnt know how to live life. He had become accustomed to have all his decisions made for him, when to eat shit shower...

Ill tell you who are institutionalized, council employees.

One you get used to working in a government job you pick up bad habits, a public funded organisation has no pressure or waay less pressure; they dont need to make money to survive.

I met a civil engineer who was ex council who got fired from 2 jobs because he just wasnt fast enough. After a almost a decade at the council.

I worked for a council a decade or so ago for a short period and personally witnessed the timewasting, money wasting atmosphere. I overheard a senior manager complaining about a new upstart employee who had come in from the private sector who had ruffled feather as he was finishing jobs before deadline :D I kid you not! He went on to say that they were going to have to work on him... theres no reward for productivity just makes all you fellow employees green and hate you for upsetting the status quo.

I designed my line manager the most simple of excel spreadsheets so he could do one of his tasks in 10 mins instead of 4 hours of manual calculation. He told me to keep it quiet , he would continue to use the spreadsheet but not tell anyone of its existence...

That the other thing, the council senior staff are mostly mediocre cause they prefer to promote from within even if they are not the best candidate. Just hold fake interviews cause they have too  ...


TLDR council workers who have worked their over a certain period become "institutionalized " :cool:

« Last Edit: June 12, 2020, 09:44:52 am by jeanphillipe »

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I like that word institutionalized,  i first came across it after watching Shawshank Redemption.

Used to describe that prisoner who had spent most or his life in prison so when he got out he didnt know how to live life. He had become accustomed to have all his decisions made for him, when to eat shit shower...

Ill tell you who are institutionalized, council employees.

One you get used to working in a government job you pick up bad habits, a public funded organisation has no pressure or waay less pressure; they dont need to make money to survive.

I met a civil engineer who was ex council who got fired from 2 jobs because he just wasnt fast enough. After a almost a decade at the council.

I worked for a council a decade or so ago for a short period and personally witnessed the timewasting, money wasting atmosphere. I overheard a senior manager complaining about a new upstart employee who had come in from the private sector who had ruffled feather as he was finishing jobs before deadline :D I kid you not! He went on to say that they were going to have to work on him... theres no reward for productivity just makes all you fellow employees green and hate you for upsetting the status quo.

I designed my line manager the most simple of excel spreadsheets so he could do one of his tasks in 10 mins instead of 4 hours of manual calculation. He told me to keep it quiet , he would continue to use the spreadsheet but not tell anyone of its existence...

That the other thing, the council senior staff are mostly mediocre cause they prefer to promote from within even if they are not the best candidate. Just hold fake interviews cause they have too  ...


TLDR council workers who have worked their over a certain period become "institutionalized " :cool:

All good points. I've never worked for the government, local or national, in any way, shape or form, but it's not difficult to imagine how this goes on.

I guess this also goes some way to explain why something between 40 and 50 per cent of everything we earn (depending on which figures you choose to read) finds its way into the state's coffers in one way or another, with never a thought as to whether the public gets value for money or not.

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All good points. I've never worked for the government, local or national, in any way, shape or form, but it's not difficult to imagine how this goes on.

I guess this also goes some way to explain why something between 40 and 50 per cent of everything we earn (depending on which figures you choose to read) finds its way into the state's coffers in one way or another, with never a thought as to whether the public gets value for money or not.
Yeh if you think the police was only formed less than 200 years ago and now the government has insideously spread so it dictates every aspect of our lives and sucks our money like a parasite and then prosecutes us if we go over 20mph , its like were paying them to persecute us.

Offline Citybased

This topic needs to be 'ramped up'
This recent term really gets my goat

Offline King Nuts

Yeh if you think the police was only formed less than 200 years ago and now the government has insideously spread so it dictates every aspect of our lives and sucks our money like a parasite and then prosecutes us if we go over 20mph , its like were paying them to persecute us.

I have read this three times and I still don't know what your point is.

Offline David1970

I like that word institutionalized,  i first came across it after watching Shawshank Redemption.

Used to describe that prisoner who had spent most or his life in prison so when he got out he didnt know how to live life. He had become accustomed to have all his decisions made for him, when to eat shit shower...

Ill tell you who are institutionalized, council employees.

One you get used to working in a government job you pick up bad habits, a public funded organisation has no pressure or waay less pressure; they dont need to make money to survive.

I met a civil engineer who was ex council who got fired from 2 jobs because he just wasnt fast enough. After a almost a decade at the council.

I worked for a council a decade or so ago for a short period and personally witnessed the timewasting, money wasting atmosphere. I overheard a senior manager complaining about a new upstart employee who had come in from the private sector who had ruffled feather as he was finishing jobs before deadline :D I kid you not! He went on to say that they were going to have to work on him... theres no reward for productivity just makes all you fellow employees green and hate you for upsetting the status quo.

I designed my line manager the most simple of excel spreadsheets so he could do one of his tasks in 10 mins instead of 4 hours of manual calculation. He told me to keep it quiet , he would continue to use the spreadsheet but not tell anyone of its existence...

That the other thing, the council senior staff are mostly mediocre cause they prefer to promote from within even if they are not the best candidate. Just hold fake interviews cause they have too  ...


TLDR council workers who have worked their over a certain period become "institutionalized " :cool:

I went for a walk yesterday, down a country lane was a small amount of rubbish someone had dumped. A council refuses van turned up, a “worker”  got out the van and I thought he was going to pick it up rubbish. He took a couple of photos with his phone then drove away without the rubbish. I was speaking with a friend last night about it, he reckons that they will need to do a H&S assessment before they can pick the rubbish up. How many people will be involved in picking up 10 bits of non hazardous household waste? If it had been a private company where money counts, the rubbish would have been in the back of the van and gone.

Offline David1970

Yeh if you think the police was only formed less than 200 years ago and now the government has insideously spread so it dictates every aspect of our lives and sucks our money like a parasite and then prosecutes us if we go over 20mph , its like were paying them to persecute us.

I also don’t understand this,
Are you saying the police catch and prosecutes people who break the law and this is wrong?
Or are you against the growth of the state and you feel they are persecuting us?
Or are you against paying tax.

Offline cotton

I have read this three times and I still don't know what your point is.
That the government are finding more and more ways to channel money from us to them and seemingly using it to control and persecute us , contrast this with 200 years ago when we didnt even have a police force.  Some government is great but nowadays i must admit i am getting sick of all the cctv surveilance and petty regulations they use to raise money.

Offline FLYING BLUE

The latest thing I'm hearing from so many people younger than me is - They start every fuckin' sentence with the word, SO.....

So, when did that become the norm......(irony intended)
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Offline NIK

The latest thing I'm hearing from so many people younger than me is - They start every fuckin' sentence with the word, SO.....

So, when did that become the norm......(irony intended)

Yes, I mentioned this in the other language thread.

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The latest thing I'm hearing from so many people younger than me is - They start every fuckin' sentence with the word, SO.....

So, when did that become the norm......(irony intended)
What's worse is when they are ordering something and say "so, can I get ....", no you can't, you can have, only those who work there can get. They could say can you get me of course.

Offline FLYING BLUE

What's worse is when they are ordering something and say "so, can I get ....", no you can't, you can have, only those who work there can get. They could say can you get me of course.

Don't get me started on the god awful habit of inserting the word, "like" into every sentence - aaaaargh :dash: :dash:

Offline David1970

English is an evolving language, if it was not we would all be talking like Geoffrey Chaucer.
Some new words or phrases will stay and some will disappear, it’s the way it has always been.

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Don't get me started on the god awful habit of inserting the word, "like" into every sentence - aaaaargh :dash: :dash:
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that one, so now we have, "so, can I get ....... like"   :sarcastic:

Offline David1970

That the government are finding more and more ways to channel money from us to them and seemingly using it to control and persecute us , contrast this with 200 years ago when we didnt even have a police force.  Some government is great but nowadays i must admit i am getting sick of all the cctv surveilance and petty regulations they use to raise money.

You do have a point about cctv, London is only seconded to Beijing when it comes to cctv cameras.

London has around 420,000 CCTV cameras, making it the second-most monitored city in the world after Beijing, with its 470,000 cameras (Washington DC, in third place, has just 30,000).

From the FT 01/08/209
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Offline FLYING BLUE

English is an evolving language, if it was not we would all be talking like Geoffrey Chaucer.
Some new words or phrases will stay and some will disappear, it’s the way it has always been.

Doesn't mean we old gits have to like it though :timeout:

For example, I just happen to come from a background / career where clear, concise & 'correct' speech was deemed to be extremely important & still is, albiet to a slightly lesser extent these days

Think of Air Traffic Control as an example :hi:

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That the government are finding more and more ways to channel money from us to them and seemingly using it to control and persecute us , contrast this with 200 years ago when we didnt even have a police force.  Some government is great but nowadays i must admit i am getting sick of all the cctv surveilance and petty regulations they use to raise money.


Would you rather there was more death on the roads and more unsolved crime?

Offline Steelworker

I hate these fucking suddenly popular phrases or words too. Suddenly, instead of being built or constructed, it’s now ‘stood up’. Also, ‘unprecedented’, ‘shine a light on’, ‘post code lottery’, ‘pay day lenders’, ‘I’m loving it’, ‘level up’. I could go on.... :D

Offline Steelworker

....existential threat, woke, meme, bae...... :dash:

Offline winkywanky

I don't mind the memes, the steady incoming supply on my WhatsApp was keeping me sane(ish).

It seems to have dried up now though  :cry:

Offline tom269u001

Yeah, I'd forgotten about that one, so now we have, "so, can I get ....... like"   :sarcastic:
So,.. whatever you do, don't go to Liverpool then...like

And on that location, how about "errrrmmmmmm"

I hate people using "init" all the bloody time!

The yanks are to blame for a lot of useless buzz words. "Super" is another annoying one.

Offline David1970

Doesn't mean we old gits have to like it though :timeout:

You may well be correct it’s an age thing, excepting new words or phrases, or new ideas when you are young but being intrenched in your views when you are old.

Offline Steelworker

You may well be correct it’s an age thing, excepting new words or phrases, or new ideas when you are young but being intrenched in your views when you are old.

I do except that I’m intrenched.

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it's missing may favourite (not) "moving forward"
No 'Blue Sky' either?  :D

Offline The Film Director

Sorry to repeat from the other thread, but 'incredibly' is just used incredibly often .... and not just by that twat Matt Hancock (who I honestly don't think has done that bad a job in this UNPRECEDENTED situation, despite him having fucked up with his and Bozo's 'world beating system').

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You do have a point about cctv, London is only seconded to Beijing when it comes to cctv cameras.

London has around 420,000 CCTV cameras, making it the second-most monitored city in the world after Beijing, with its 470,000 cameras (Washington DC, in third place, has just 30,000).

From the FT 01/08/209
Yeh and they seem to be used alot for sending out fines for petty traffic offences. While i accept the necessity of traffic regulations what pisses me off is the way there seems to be more and more policing through fines. Firstly it seems like the government is just motivated by money. Secondly the reality of enforcing the law by the imposition of fines is that its not a level playing field with how the law impacts you as an individual, if your wealthy thed fines mean nothing to you whereas if your poor it can be most inconvenient.  While i can see its policing made easy on the cheap and theres some rationale to it , imho it further brings the legal system into disrepute.

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Sorry to repeat from the other thread, but 'incredibly' is just used incredibly often .... and not just by that twat Matt Hancock (who I honestly don't think has done that bad a job in this UNPRECEDENTED situation, despite him having fucked up with his and Bozo's 'world beating system').

Yes, but it's an incredibly good word to describe something that's really quite incredible. Even more so, when you think about it, since many of us find it incredible we didn't use it so much in the past. It's incredible how we managed.

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You missed “ coffin dodger”.

Offline Corus Boy

Sorry to repeat from the other thread, but 'incredibly' is just used incredibly often .... and not just by that twat Matt Hancock (who I honestly don't think has done that bad a job in this UNPRECEDENTED situation, despite him having fucked up with his and Bozo's 'world beating system').

Absolutely!  :D

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People who after asking you a question and you give them an answer reply "sound". What f##king sound ! :dash:

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and "direction of travel"

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Don't get me started on the god awful habit of inserting the word, "like" into every sentence - aaaaargh :dash: :dash:


Every sentence?

If you're travelling on a bus or train and a young lady close by is talking to her mate on her phone .... "like" is like every like other like  b****y like word  :wackogirl:

Offline willie loman

English is an evolving language, if it was not we would all be talking like Geoffrey Chaucer.
Some new words or phrases will stay and some will disappear, it’s the way it has always been.

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Offline willie loman

Only began listening to radio during lockdown, but noticed that "shout out" has replaced" mention ", a few old codgers use "mention" just saying eh.

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+100%

Even evolving so that ‘accepting you’re entrenched’ can become ‘excepting you’re intrenched’?  :D

Offline King Nuts

Only began listening to radio during lockdown, but noticed that "shout out" has replaced" mention ", a few old codgers use "mention" just saying eh.

And there's the ubiquitous 'reach out'.

Someone 'reached out' to me to ask for a job in the office.

I 'reached out' to my mother in law to tell her to go screw herself.

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People who after asking you a question and you give them an answer reply "sound". What f##king sound ! :dash:

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And there's the ubiquitous 'reach out'.

Someone 'reached out' to me to ask for a job in the office.

I 'reached out' to my mother in law to tell her to go screw herself.


Yes, I hate that fucking term, so overused and so infrequently in the correct context.

You reach out to someone who is emotionally low or in need of support.

You apply for a fucking job with a nice suit on and your CV in your hand. FFS  :dash:.