Author Topic: Which albums are overated / underrated? (Read 7530 times)

Malvolio · « **Reply #150 on:** June 16, 2020, 11:36:51 pm »

Quote from: FLYING BLUE on June 16, 2020, 10:29:31 am

Tubular Bells - very overated IMHO

Side one is good at first but then closes with 10 minutes of a single repeated phrase & some arse telling you it's a "Mandolin" or a "Pipe Organ"

Side 2 is easily forgettable......

That's not some arse, that's Vivian Stanshall.

winkywanky · « **Reply #151 on:** June 16, 2020, 11:46:33 pm »

Quite right, he was a very erudite, amusing and rather drunken upperclass arse!

And one of the Bonzos, to boot

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winkywanky · « **Reply #152 on:** June 16, 2020, 11:47:53 pm »

I'm just trying to think which came first, because in a perverted way this is very similar to Tubular Bells.

I'm not going to be boring and Google it. Anyone know?

A Decent Fist · « **Reply #153 on:** June 17, 2020, 09:04:12 am »

The Intro and the Outro by the Bonzos? I haven't looked it up but I think it came before Tubular Bells.

winkywanky · « **Reply #154 on:** June 17, 2020, 10:18:30 am »

Quote from: A Decent Fist on June 17, 2020, 09:04:12 am

The Intro and the Outro by the Bonzos? I haven't looked it up but I think it came before Tubular Bells.

That's what I suspect

FLYING BLUE · « **Reply #155 on:** June 17, 2020, 12:50:16 pm »

Quote from: winkywanky on June 17, 2020, 10:18:30 am

That's what I suspect

This was prior to Tubular Bells.
I wonder if it's also where the 'Fast Show' got their "Jazz Club", NICE......................

winkywanky · « **Reply #156 on:** June 17, 2020, 03:25:26 pm »

I don't think so?

But who knows!

I think to be honest it's just that laid-back cat vibe that many jazzers exude.

NIK · « **Reply #157 on:** June 17, 2020, 05:24:34 pm »

Quote from: Malvolio on June 16, 2020, 11:36:51 pm

That's not some arse, that's Vivian Stanshall.

The late great Vivian Stanshall - a genuine eccentric.

The Film Director · « **Reply #158 on:** June 28, 2020, 08:02:04 am »

Rock 'n' Roll Animal - Lou Reed

Underrated? By the Velvet Underground purists who felt Reed's versons of the album were a step too far. and well OTT.

Overrated? By those (like me) who think this is a contender for greatest ever live album - what are the other contenders for this crown?

Jumping Jack Flash · « **Reply #159 on:** June 28, 2020, 08:18:47 am »

I always thought Tubular Bells and War of the Worlds to be overrated and too ego driven, neither have a aged well. Typical 1970’s overindulgence.

I have a love hate relationship with Dylan. As a lyricist he is without equal but as a live act he is frustrating to see and always seems to be completely fucked off with his band. His new album is sublime though.

stampjones · « **Reply #160 on:** June 28, 2020, 09:03:02 am »

Quote from: The Film Director on June 28, 2020, 08:02:04 am

By those (like me) who think this is a contender for greatest ever live album - what are the other contenders for this crown?

Stop making sense by talking heads
Under a blood red sky by u2
Not a great fan of either band but those albums are fantastic
A beautiful thing by Idles - fantastic

tesla · « **Reply #161 on:** June 28, 2020, 10:16:52 am »

Quote from: The Film Director on June 28, 2020, 08:02:04 am

Rock 'n' Roll Animal - Lou Reed

Underrated? By the Velvet Underground purists who felt Reed's versons of the album were a step too far. and well OTT.

Overrated? By those (like me) who think this is a contender for greatest ever live album - what are the other contenders for this crown?

I agree this is best live album ever, saw Lou Reed with the same band at Sheffield City Hall, Intro and Sweet Jane to open the show, Hunter & Wagner twin lead guitars, just awesome.

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The Film Director · « **Reply #162 on:** June 28, 2020, 12:16:38 pm »

Quote from: stampjones on June 28, 2020, 09:03:02 am

A beautiful thing by Idles - fantastic

Don't know that much about them other than seeing a nicely OTT performance on Jools Holland.

The Film Director · « **Reply #163 on:** June 28, 2020, 12:18:06 pm »

Quote from: tesla on June 28, 2020, 10:16:52 am

saw Lou Reed with the same band at Sheffield City Hall, Intro and Sweet Jane to open the show, Hunter & Wagner twin lead guitars, just awesome.

How did I know you were going to say this.

Saw him a bit later after he'd ditched Hunter and Wagner and had dyed his hair blonde.

tesla · « **Reply #164 on:** June 28, 2020, 12:39:46 pm »

Quote from: The Film Director on June 28, 2020, 12:18:06 pm

How did I know you were going to say this.

possibly I have posted this before, or as a big Bowie fan in the same era it is likely I would have gone to see Lou Reed, one of his major influences

ulstersubbie · « **Reply #165 on:** June 28, 2020, 01:29:51 pm »

Quote from: stampjones on June 28, 2020, 09:03:02 am

Stop making sense by talking heads

The Heads at the peak of their powers, totally brilliant!

stampjones · « **Reply #166 on:** June 28, 2020, 11:05:21 pm »

Quote from: The Film Director on June 28, 2020, 12:16:38 pm

Don't know that much about them other than seeing a nicely OTT performance on Jools Holland.

Yeah that was great. They really are a fantastic live band but often that doesnt translate well onto a record. In this case it did.

scutty brown · « **Reply #167 on:** June 29, 2020, 12:08:43 am »

Quote from: The Film Director on June 28, 2020, 08:02:04 am

Rock 'n' Roll Animal - Lou Reed

Underrated? By the Velvet Underground purists who felt Reed's versons of the album were a step too far. and well OTT.

wasn't "Lou Reed Live" the rest of the same concert? They released it as two LPs rather than a double to get more sales

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Overrated? By those (like me) who think this is a contender for greatest ever live album - what are the other contenders for this crown?

801 Live! - first live LP recorded through the mixing desk
Starless and Bible Black - so well produced no-one realised it was a live recording
Riccochet (Tangerine Dream) most don't realise its live, mainly Coventry cathedral
Viva! (Roxy Music)

tesla · « **Reply #168 on:** June 29, 2020, 06:00:10 am »

Quote from: scutty brown on June 29, 2020, 12:08:43 am

wasn't "Lou Reed Live" the rest of the same concert? They released it as two LPs rather than a double to get more sales

I believe that is correct, though it was not as good as Rock and Roll Animal, long time since I listened to it

lostandfound · « **Reply #169 on:** June 29, 2020, 08:53:19 am »

Quote from: Jumping Jack Flash on June 28, 2020, 08:18:47 am

I always thought Tubular Bells and War of the Worlds to be overrated and too ego driven, neither have a aged well. Typical 1970’s overindulgence.

I have a love hate relationship with Dylan. As a lyricist he is without equal but as a live act he is frustrating to see and always seems to be completely fucked off with his band. His new album is sublime though.

I miss the crazy mad prog indulgences like War of the Worlds - though I only became aware of that album when I briefly had a job selling band gear, and we sometimes played it to demonstrate the modular PA systems we would flog to bands.

smiths · « **Reply #170 on:** June 29, 2020, 09:57:14 am »

Quote from: lostandfound on June 29, 2020, 08:53:19 am

I miss the crazy mad prog indulgences like War of the Worlds - though I only became aware of that album when I briefly had a job selling band gear, and we sometimes played it to demonstrate the modular PA systems we would flog to bands.

Not a big fan of Tubular Bells but I like the original version of War Of The Worlds with the narration of the late great Richard Burton with his amazing voice.

lostandfound · « **Reply #171 on:** June 29, 2020, 10:02:44 am »

Quote from: smiths on June 29, 2020, 09:57:14 am

Not a big fan of Tubular Bells but I like the original version of War Of The Worlds with the narration of the late great Richard Burton with his amazing voice.

I agree. I really like Justin Hayward's voice on that album too.

smiths · « **Reply #172 on:** June 29, 2020, 10:11:51 am »

Quote from: lostandfound on June 29, 2020, 10:02:44 am

I agree. I really like Justin Hayward's voice on that album too.

Forever Autumn is a great tune, being a massive Burton fan its good to hear his great voice.

mr.bluesky · « **Reply #173 on:** June 30, 2020, 11:04:42 pm »

Quote from: smiths on June 29, 2020, 09:57:14 am

Not a big fan of Tubular Bells but I like the original version of War Of The Worlds with the narration of the late great Richard Burton with his amazing voice.

Bought tubular bells on vinyl when it first came out. The A side was good but the B side was crap. I thought Ommadawn was a better allround album. Jeff Waynes War of the words was good I thought because it was different at the time.

smiths · « **Reply #174 on:** June 30, 2020, 11:36:10 pm »

Quote from: mr.bluesky on June 30, 2020, 11:04:42 pm

Bought tubular bells on vinyl when it first came out. The A side was good but the B side was crap. I thought Ommadawn was a better allround album. Jeff Waynes War of the words was good I thought because it was different at the time.

Totally agree about War Of The Worlds, another album of the time with good cover art as well. I am biased due to Burtons narration though.

billybob69 · « **Reply #175 on:** July 02, 2020, 10:48:53 pm »

Quote from: Jumping Jack Flash on June 28, 2020, 08:18:47 am

I always thought Tubular Bells and War of the Worlds to be overrated and too ego driven, neither have a aged well. Typical 1970’s overindulgence.

One guy learning to play lots of instruments and then using the rudimentary technology that existed at the time to mix them together as 'overindulgence'? I'm struggling to think of another album where an artist has painstakingly stuck to their craft in such a way.

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Author Topic: Which albums are overated / underrated? (Read 7530 times)