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Totally get what you say bro, but frankly , the reviews do not back up your arguement in terms of price to positive experience ratio. There could be many reasons for this but the data is there for all to see.

Be careful how you anal-ise your data.

If the question is "I wanted to buy a sky blue '73 Ford Escort" then the cumulative vague experience is fairly easy to determine and may prove consistent across all subjective observations.

If the question is "I wanted to buy a fast vehicle" then the cumulative vague experience is not easy to determine.

Why I might badger a brief reviewer for details is because saying "she was fit and I fucked her in various positions" tells you next to nothing about the SP.
Even when the more verbose go on to say "she was nextdoor pretty, C cups, 5'3", brunette, Hungarian and she goes like the clappers" there are only a couple of reliable data points there in hair colour and nationality.
One man's vanilla punt has been shown to be another's fairly adventurous, some are very content with vanilla (mish, doggy, OW, cum in condom, lip kissing optional) others find vanilla (almost) a turn-off.
Unless you've been profiling us all without disclosure then summarising at the level you have is shaky.

Collectively we have seemingly found that SPs operate in the mode (possibly mean and median) as follows (order does not indicate preference or promotion):

Dodgy, outcall @ 100 ph where the pics show hotties, empirical comparison between their pics and "Diva" level a la master-promoter KT, services likely not as advertised, girl not as advertised, minder in car outside, more likely than not to be ropey sitch.

London incall agency - (Thai) Asian: 150ph, photoshopped  pics, "girls" probably cis-gendered, probably enhanced, probably not as sleek or taut as shown, usually obliging/"enthusiastic" for "vanilla" + OWO + Anal + RO + fingering + COBreast/Body/Ass + CIM (spit rather than swallow) + prostate + rimming + (D)FK + tit-fucking.  Services typically as advertised.  SPs older than advertised, likely 30+.  Phone fiddling not usually a problem.  May be getting a bit more precious with the dick cleaning before/during OWO.  OWO "tricks" often available (e.g. hot/cold water, ice cubes, tea, alcohol)

London incall agency - EE: 150ph, photoshopped pics, cis-gendered, more options for natural tits, usually as sleek but not as taut and natural tits may not be as big, nationality not always as declared.  Usually good for vanilla + (D)FK + fingering +OW,  increasingly OWO/CIM + RO may be at discretion and possibly extra i.e. not guaranteed depending on moody cow, backdoor shenanigans also more variable than Thais.  Enthusiasm (when not moody) as good as Thais.  Services not as consistently (as Thais) as advertised.  CoBody/Breast/Ass usually available but again moody cow syndrome and may be more prompt to wipe up.  Girls usually as young as advertised and clearly under 30.  Phone fiddling a possibility and moodiness ensues if you comment.

London incall agency - "Latin": 150ph - photoshopped pics, most contended about original gender, almost guaranteed fake tits, possibly fake ass, possibly lips done, usually not as taut/sleek as pics, nationality questionable, age close to advertised and usually under 30.  Phone fiddling a possibility and moodiness ensues if you comment.  Usually good for vanilla + (D)FK + fingering + OW, again OWO/CIM + RO may be at discretion and in that case more likely "esstra baby", ass play and backdoor fun perhaps more likely than EEs but not necessarily as obliging as Thais.  CoBreast/Body/Ass usually available.

London agency - "premium": 200+ ph - photoshopped pics a (little) more "honest", usually original gender as advertised, good choice for natural or fake tits'n'ass, services usually more reliably delivered as requested and usually with gusto, increasingly so with price.  Moodiness and phones should not be an issue.  Perhaps younger girls at this price point are more unreliable than the veterans who've graduated to it but they are possibly "hotter" in looks.  Entering the realms of you get what you pay for.

London Non-Brit indie @ 80-100ph - highly variable honesty of pics, services beyond vanilla variable, moodiness variable, "at discretion" and extras likely and often follows nationality types above.  Defines the meaning of punting.

London Non-Brit indie @ 120-150ph - still variable honesty of pics, services more reliably as advertised than cheaper brethren, more services included but no guarantees of Thai level smorgasbord.  The "wealthier" punter's launchpad.

London "Brit" indie @ <120ph - probably a hoax/scam, especially if "fit" and young but luck sometimes struck.

London "Brit" indie >150ph - probably as advertised looks wise, variety of services beyond vanilla variable but usually as advertised but be wary, enthusiasm variable.  Again good eggs to be found but still too many bad/going off to be a reliable bet if punting rather than tapping regulars.

Not mentioned facials as not my thing and therefore not noticed if more or less likely or enthusiastically received by any sort.
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The SPs with the best reviews on this site consistently are all 150 and below.

So not sure what stats you are referring to.

All the latinas I've seen are independents and I've paid between 120 and 160ph and they've been cracking punts.

This site's vocal majority shop sub 200ph so it's a biased sample.

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Don't take take me out of context with your ranting..
I don't like paying over the odds.. but apart from some exceptions and rare one's at that there have been very limited physical quality hotties in the £100 and £120 range.. and i am going on fit hot looks and normal gfe services..
I know i have to dig deeper in pockets to get very good model standard looking women, I'm not compelled to but i have to because of my physical requirements in taste and dfk and owo (albeit not so much though, but at £180+ owo should be a standard given)
I have many years of experience in this field and i certainly don't like being ripped off in this field of life or for that matter in any other filed of life...
my range is £100 to £300 for the hour.. I am no mug to be paying ridiculous amounts....

I didn't take you out of context you posted the £170 figure, that's a fact. :rolleyes: And its an incorrect fact as I know from my own experiences. And my ranting as you call it is calling out your incorrect shit. :rolleyes:

As to not being a mug to be paying ridiculous rates well its your money, my view is £200 an hour is my absolute max and has been for many years now, no WG is worth paying more for and even more so when I know I can get what I require for less. If about when I return to punting I could stick with 3 or 4 regs and pay between £90-140 an hour and have possibly going on the past a 100% success rate with them of excellent service each time. No need to pay more, however I also like variety and am prepared to take a risk in search of a gem, sometimes pays off, sometimes doesn't.

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Don't take take me out of context with your ranting..
I don't like paying over the odds.. but apart from some exceptions and rare one's at that there have been very limited physical quality hotties in the £100 and £120 range.. and i am going on fit hot looks and normal gfe services..
I know i have to dig deeper in pockets to get very good model standard looking women, I'm not compelled to but i have to because of my physical requirements in taste and dfk and owo (albeit not so much though, but at £180+ owo should be a standard given)
I have many years of experience in this field and i certainly don't like being ripped off in this field of life or for that matter in any other filed of life...
my range is £100 to £300 for the hour.. I am no mug to be paying ridiculous amounts....

All true and wise but you forgot to say "Russian and works for Diva".  Your tastes and standards may well be what many (including myself) can agree with, your affiliation is what comes across as highly questionable, even moreso if you're now promoting/agreeing with increased prices to "guarantee" services are rendered with no guarantee on quality of said service.
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I didn't take you out of context you posted the £170 figure, that's a fact. :rolleyes: And its an incorrect fact as I know from my own experiences. And my ranting as you call it is calling out your incorrect shit. :rolleyes:

As to not being a mug to be paying ridiculous rates well its your money, my view is £200 an hour is my absolute max and has been for many years now, no WG is worth paying more for and even more so when I know I can get what I require for less. If about when I return to punting I could stick with 3 or 4 regs and pay between £90-140 an hour and have possibly going on the past a 100% success rate with them of excellent service each time. No need to pay more, however I also like variety and am prepared to take a risk in search of a gem, sometimes pays off, sometimes doesn't.

£170 for English, Brazilian, Russian.. you find those at that lower prices continually and put me to shame??
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@LLPuntung ... your summary is entertaining as it is useful especially  to a newbie. However I'll challenge anyone who wants to come on here and say there is no correlation between price and overall punting experience.

I totally get that different punters will look for different things and some may not mind if they fuck in a dive, MacD type service, not the best hygiene the list goes on.

Looks as well as body types are subjective. We all get that. My point is this.

Generally speaking and generally being the operative word punters struggle to get all what they want sub £120/ph anyone who thinks that SPs charging this rate has nothing to do with the outlook of the girl or her pimp needs a retest in their punting values.
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£170 for English, Brazilian, Russian.. you find those at that lower prices and put me to shame??

Now you are changing the goalposts, you said ALL nationalities in the post I first replied to. :rolleyes: I very rarely punt with Brazilians or Russians except at sex parties pre-lockdown on occasion. As to English, Simply Louise in Stevenage was a hottie to me charging £120 an hour and always offered a great service. And before her plastic surgery gone wrong so was Shanelle who charged £130 an hour for about 10 years which included Anal and Rimming, anal being of no interest to me. She made a comeback pre-lockdown but then posted she was retiring as lockdown loomed.

Not a hottie but I fancied her and she offered me a great service a number of times was NicoleXRated a Black Brit I punted with, she charged £130 an hour if I recall correctly. Great full on sustained DFK, good OWO, ball licking and offered deep fingering, in fact as far as my finger/s could go up her pussy and arse.

The fact is pre-lockdown in my punting area there weren't that many Brits on A/W and most that were were MILFs in their 40s and 50s with bad or little feedback on here charging £150-200 an hour, no thanks. I wont pay a premium just to punt with a Brit.

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@LLPuntung ... your summary is entertaining as it is useful especially  to a newbie. However I'll challenge anyone who wants to come on here and say there is no correlation between price and overall punting experience.

I totally get that different punters will look for different things and some may not mind if they fuck in a dive, MacD type service, not the best hygiene the list goes on.

Looks as well as body types are subjective. We all get that. My point is this.

Generally speaking and generally being the operative word punters struggle to get all what they want sub £120/ph anyone who thinks that SPs charging this rate has nothing to do with the outlook of the girl or her pimp needs a retest in their punting values.

No one disputes that more money opens more legs with subjectively better looks and with the anticipation of more services delivered with more (genuine) enthusiasm.
However getting what's enough for a good, unregretted time is not so definitely attributed to price.  As price goes up, expectation goes up, especially if you know you can enjoy a "pretty" SP for 100ph/60hh.
If I went back to 150 ph punting I'd expect a good-looking, sub-25, fit and eager filly to be enjoying more than the basics with.  But when I reconsider that I have enjoyed a more "age-appropriate" SP for 100ph and engaged in enthusiastic anal, face-fucking, rimming, ATM, ATP, fisting, squirting, DT/CIM/swallow and unflinching cum anywhere (not in pussy) I tend to wonder why age and youth matters.
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@LLPuntung ... your summary is entertaining as it is useful especially  to a newbie. However I'll challenge anyone who wants to come on here and say there is no correlation between price and overall punting experience.

I totally get that different punters will look for different things and some may not mind if they fuck in a dive, MacD type service, not the best hygiene the list goes on.

Looks as well as body types are subjective. We all get that. My point is this.

Generally speaking and generally being the operative word punters struggle to get all what they want sub £120/ph anyone who thinks that SPs charging this rate has nothing to do with the outlook of the girl or her pimp needs a retest in their punting values.
Same girl, same service. First time I saw her it was £120/hr, second time was at £80/hr. She then raised her rate to £160/hr and the last time I saw her AW profile before it disappeared it was £200/hr. This for someone who had done porn and modelling. Price has fuck all correlation with service.

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Same girl, same service. First time I saw her it was £120/hr, second time was at £80/hr. She then raised her rate to £160/hr and the last time I saw her AW profile before it disappeared it was £200/hr. This for someone who had done porn and modelling. Price has fuck all correlation with service.

Indeed, plenty of loopy SPs who will chance any price point at any time for any number of reasons.

Similarly there are plenty of "humble" SPs who know that 80 quid is still a lot of money and can happily offer a decently broad service without contempt for 30 mins or more.  Likewise for those plying their trade at 100-120ph.  It's only when idiot punters start suggesting they should charge more for whatever fuckwitted selfish motive that the service proposition is corrupted.  If you suggest to any SP that they should be charging more you have EAS, especially if you're earning a lower hourly rate than what you're already paying her.

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Same girl, same service. First time I saw her it was £120/hr, second time was at £80/hr. She then raised her rate to £160/hr and the last time I saw her AW profile before it disappeared it was £200/hr. This for someone who had done porn and modelling. Price has fuck all correlation with service.

Spot on. :thumbsup: There is NO correlation because once again what makes a good and bad WG is her own unique attitude NOT what she or her pimp charges.

An example of this was years ago there was a WG called Paris who worked in a Soho Walk-up one of the cheapest forms of 121 punting, the feedback she got and reviews were great, for that type of punter she offered a great service for about £25 for a quicky.

I had a fantastic regular for a few years who charged me £80 an hour, she retired, in fact she went and had a child and returned charging £120 an hour and with less services on offer than I got at £80, I never booked her again.

Price charged in punting is a figure the WG and/or her pimp if she has one decide on of course, they may look at other WGs in the area, but whatever they decide on is a figure that presumably suits them, it doesn't mean anything in terms of the service the WG offers. This has been proved in reviews time and time again on here, obviously you have to locate the good WGs who charge the lower rates and that may take a while and along the way you may meet some scum but as I said above that happens in any price bracket.

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Same girl, same service. First time I saw her it was £120/hr, second time was at £80/hr. She then raised her rate to £160/hr and the last time I saw her AW profile before it disappeared it was £200/hr. This for someone who had done porn and modelling. Price has fuck all correlation with service.

You see what you don't realise is you have indirectly answered your own question or my statement if indeed you had a question.

I put it to you her price variations had (1) to do with where she was at the time so needed some quick dosh (2) recognising where she was in the marketplace. Clearly by your own analysis she does not see herself as a sub £120/ph SP so you need to post a better example if you have one.

Look at the reviews bro there is a reoccurring theme even if we try to remove the subjective elements of a review.
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You see what you don't realise is you have indirectly answered your own question or my statement if indeed you had a question.

I put it to you her price variations had (1) to do with where she was at the time so needed some quick dosh (2) recognising where she was in the marketplace. Clearly by your own analysis she does not see herself as a sub £120/ph SP so you need to post a better example if you have one.

Look at the reviews bro there is a reoccurring theme even if we try to remove the subjective elements of a review.

Consider that when she returned she was a mother of at least one so had different motives for her pricing than previously.  Also, as a result of birthing or moral sensitivity as a mother, she might decide to reduce the services offered at expense of her reasoning that services justify price.

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This site's vocal majority shop sub 200ph so it's a biased sample.

It was a sample he referred to which is why I corrected him.

The SPs with the best reviews on here are sub 170 quid

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@LLPuntung ... your summary is entertaining as it is useful especially  to a newbie. However I'll challenge anyone who wants to come on here and say there is no correlation between price and overall punting experience.

I totally get that different punters will look for different things and some may not mind if they fuck in a dive, MacD type service, not the best hygiene the list goes on.

Looks as well as body types are subjective. We all get that. My point is this.

Generally speaking and generally being the operative word punters struggle to get all what they want sub £120/ph anyone who thinks that SPs charging this rate has nothing to do with the outlook of the girl or her pimp needs a retest in their punting values.

There is no correlation between price and quality of punt.

Attitude and service delivery is what decides that.

I've spent money on pornstars, agencies, courtesans and the like. That was what led me to UKP because I asked myself, surely I can spend my money better.


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You see what you don't realise is you have indirectly answered your own question or my statement if indeed you had a question.

I put it to you her price variations had (1) to do with where she was at the time so needed some quick dosh (2) recognising where she was in the marketplace. Clearly by your own analysis she does not see herself as a sub £120/ph SP so you need to post a better example if you have one.

Look at the reviews bro there is a reoccurring theme even if we try to remove the subjective elements of a review.

On the contrary, I think you've actually proven my point. Girls can change rates, up or down, according to their location/circumstances while still offering the same service. Therefore no correlation between price and service. I'm all for girls setting whatever rates they are comfortable with. If they're outwith my budget I simply won't visit. Punters who push this false narrative that higher prices equals better service however are deeply suspicious IMO.
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On the contrary, I think you've actually proven my point. Girls can change rates, up or down, according to their location/circumstances while still offering the same service. Therefore no correlation between price and service. I'm all for girls setting whatever rates they are comfortable with. If they're outwith my budget I simply won't visit. Punters who push this false narrative that higher prices equals better service however are deeply suspicious IMO.

Facts speak for themselves bro.

Take time out to look at the reviews a tad more closely.

Take time out to spot why negs are rated negs and then look at the rate

Take time out to compare negs sub £120 to negs post say £150

Take time out to look at B&S waisting our time - major

I have on purpose left bod n looks out as that is subjective.

Once you have done that come back to me!
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It was a sample he referred to which is why I corrected him.

The SPs with the best reviews on here are sub 170 quid

Which is it as you're already changing your price point 150 now 170.

I'll repeat I disagree with your statement. For the avoidance of doubt there are great punts around at sub £120/ph I have found and reviewed 1 or 2 myself but they are rare. To me punters are deluding themselves if they think they can get all they want on a "regular basis" for sub 120. So yeah once in a while for sure  ... regularly a resounding no!

I have yet to see a punter to post regular reviews sniffing out good VFM with a wide range of services that contradicts the above. If you know of one then tell us!
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Facts speak for themselves bro.

Take time out to look at the reviews a tad more closely.

Take time out to spot why negs are rated negs and then look at the rate

Take time out to compare negs sub £120 to negs post say £150

Take time out to look at B&S waisting our time - major

I have on purpose left bod n looks out as that is subjective.

Once you have done that come back to me!

Indeed they do and you're wrong.

I've been reading reviews on here and elsewhere for almost 10 years.

Negs are written for all kinds of reasons.

Take the time to look at the NE where there are few reviews over £120.

B&S is a con and nothing to do with service.

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Which is it as you're already changing your price point 150 now 170.

I'll repeat I disagree with your statement. For the avoidance of doubt there are great punts around at sub £120/ph I have found and reviewed 1 or 2 myself but they are rare. To me punters are deluding themselves if they think they can get all they want on a "regular basis" for sub 120. So yeah once in a while for sure  ... regularly a resounding no!

I have yet to see a punter to post regular reviews sniffing out good VFM with a wide range of services that contradicts the above. If you know of one then tell us!

I don't believe I made a case suggesting that sub 120 punts were the best on here.

My first point was about sub 150. 2 highly rated London SPs on here are sub 150. They've got nice digs and offered consistently superlative punts.

Someone wrote a thread on here once praising those with the best ratings. At the time, none of them charged more than 140 quid.

Price does not equal quality in the land of punt. Those that make that correlation are getting mugged

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Which is it as you're already changing your price point 150 now 170.

I'll repeat I disagree with your statement. For the avoidance of doubt there are great punts around at sub £120/ph I have found and reviewed 1 or 2 myself but they are rare. To me punters are deluding themselves if they think they can get all they want on a "regular basis" for sub 120. So yeah once in a while for sure  ... regularly a resounding no!

I have yet to see a punter to post regular reviews sniffing out good VFM with a wide range of services that contradicts the above. If you know of one then tell us!

In my case I was originally replying to KTs assertion that you have to pay £170 or more for a hottie who provides a GFE which is incorrect as I know from experience, and I gave examples including Michelle Independent in a later post who was considered by many on here as a hottie, offered a GFE and started off at £100 for years, then went to £140 an hour. Has well over 100 reviews mainly positive.

I don't agree with you here when you say there are great punts at under £120 an hour but they are rare, of course as ever it depends on locating good WGs which UKP can help with but I have punted with lots of WGs under £120 an hour who were great punts to me in recent years. And punted or been fucked about by low lifes as well. I am obviously talking from my own punting viewpoint here.

As to on a regular basis well I had 3 regs, Katalina, Amy Amazon who is no longer at all facially, and earlier this year Andreea whose body isn't the best due to childbirth all offer me great service for £90 an hour, I could easily of stuck just with these 3 though Kat always used to only come here for a while then go back home, and I would of had excellent punts that did me. I didn't do that as I like some variety as well which is where taking a risk comes in looking for a gem, and they were about pre-lockdown and never more clearly so than Polish Kora who charged me £100 an hour, and Naughty Natt xx who I saw only 3 times before she moved on but was great also at £100 an hour. Its likely to also meet or have bad comms off some low lifes along the way when you take a risk like I have done, I knew the risk I was taking.

So it IS possible to have great punts on a reg basis under £120 an hour in my experience but I will and have paid more for WGs I fancy, so Khloe Sexy Girl recently banned off here and rightly so was £140 an hour as was Lucy Mayer who didn't even have a profile when I was punting with her. Also Renata_Brunet became a good reg of mine for a while at £130 an hour, I found her stunning facially and she had a lovely lithe long limbed size 6 body, problem with her was her comms could be shit, as I experienced years ago, but never from when she became a reg. I could add a few more even cheaper brothel WGs but I do accept these brothels be them Polish or Hungarian are hit and miss which reflects my own experiences and reviews of them, this is riskier punting especially if the WG hasn't any reviews/feedback on here which is the scenario in my case when punting with some pre-lockdown.

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I don't believe I made a case suggesting that sub 120 punts were the best on here.

My first point was about sub 150. 2 highly rated London SPs on here are sub 150. They've got nice digs and offered consistently superlative punts.

Someone wrote a thread on here once praising those with the best ratings. At the time, none of them charged more than 140 quid.

Price does not equal quality in the land of punt. Those that make that correlation are getting mugged

The point you appear to missing bro 2 highly rated SPs sub £150 with great reviews are simply not the norm. To me you simply don't get outlook, attitude, where you choose to ply your trade is all reflected in price. Repeating myself you "will" always get exceptions to the rule at either end of the scale as you yourself have discovered.

What we are talking here is what is the norm. The reviews don't lie.
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In my case I was originally replying to KTs assertion that you have to pay £170 or more for a hottie who provides a GFE which is incorrect as I know from experience, and I gave examples including Michelle Independent in a later post who was considered by many on here as a hottie, offered a GFE and started off at £100 for years, then went to £140 an hour. Has well over 100 reviews mainly positive.

I don't agree with you here when you say there are great punts at under £120 an hour but they are rare, of course as ever it depends on locating good WGs which UKP can help with but I have punted with lots of WGs under £120 an hour who were great punts to me in recent years. And punted or been fucked about by low lifes as well. I am obviously talking from my own punting viewpoint here.

As to on a regular basis well I had 3 regs, Katalina, Amy Amazon who is no longer at all facially, and earlier this year Andreea whose body isn't the best due to childbirth all offer me great service for £90 an hour, I could easily of stuck just with these 3 though Kat always used to only come here for a while then go back home, and I would of had excellent punts that did me. I didn't do that as I like some variety as well which is where taking a risk comes in looking for a gem, and they were about pre-lockdown and never more clearly so than Polish Kora who charged me £100 an hour, and Naughty Natt xx who I saw only 3 times before she moved on but was great also at £100 an hour. Its likely to also meet or have bad comms off some low lifes along the way when you take a risk like I have done, I knew the risk I was taking.

So it IS possible to have great punts on a reg basis under £120 an hour in my experience but I will and have paid more for WGs I fancy, so Khloe Sexy Girl recently banned off here and rightly so was £140 an hour as was Lucy Mayer who didn't even have a profile when I was punting with her. Also Renata_Brunet became a good reg of mine for a while at £130 an hour, I found her stunning facially and she had a lovely lithe long limbed size 6 body, problem with her was her comms could be shit, as I experienced years ago, but never from when she became a reg. I could add a few more even cheaper brothel WGs but I do accept these brothels be them Polish or Hungarian are hit and miss which reflects my own experiences and reviews of them, this is riskier punting especially if the WG hasn't any reviews/feedback on here which is the scenario in my case when punting with some pre-lockdown.

Stop ranting and farting and getting your pants in a twist... just  my personal opinions.. so relax :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Stop ranting and farting and getting your pants in a twist... just  my personal opinions.. so relax :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I am perfectly relaxed thanks, just posting my personal opinions from experience.

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This wiki is based on May 17 data but does gives a fair idea on average prices.  :hi:
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Offline Belgarion

The point you appear to missing bro 2 highly rated SPs sub £150 with great reviews are simply not the norm. To me you simply don't get outlook, attitude, where you choose to ply your trade is all reflected in price. Repeating myself you "will" always get exceptions to the rule at either end of the scale as you yourself have discovered.

What we are talking here is what is the norm. The reviews don't lie.

What I'm getting at here is a good SP is a good SP, no matter what she charges.

There are guys here that go to walk ups and still have a good time.


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I am perfectly relaxed thanks, just posting my personal opinions from experience.

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Indeed they do and you're wrong.

I've been reading reviews on here and elsewhere for almost 10 years.

Negs are written for all kinds of reasons.

Take the time to look at the NE where there are few reviews over £120.

B&S is a con and nothing to do with service.

Mate this is a regional London thread so of course I am talking London prices. It stands to reason if I was talking NE the price point would be adjusted accordingly.

B&S. why do you think I mentioned that? Have you not noticed punters rarely report B&S post £150/ph SPs.
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Just from personal experience I've always had a good time with Latinas.  :unknown:

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What I'm getting at here is a good SP is a good SP, no matter what she charges.

There are guys here that go to walk ups and still have a good time.

I wholeheartedly agree with that statement regarding a good SP. it is just can we find on a consistent basis.

As an example just read the review from @Payyourwaymate. My cup of tea. Now if I factor in standard Latina extras such as FK and OWO then for sure I am on £140/150 p/h.
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Mate this is a regional London thread so of course I am talking London prices. It stands to reason if I was talking NE the price point would be adjusted accordingly.

B&S. why do you think I mentioned that? Have you not noticed punters rarely report B&S post £150/ph SPs.

B&S is not related to service. You can still get a good service from a B&S anyway. One of my early punts (in London btw), when I was still green, was with a Polish B&S who was actually way better looking than the pictures used on her profile. Decent service as well. That's certainly the exception rather than the rule and nowadays I'd walk and have done so on principle, but it can happen.

Some over Photoshopped pics for £150/hr+ escorts, in particular agencies but a few independents as well, bear so little resemblance to reality that they might as well be a B&S.

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B&S is not related to service. You can still get a good service from a B&S anyway. One of my early punts (in London btw), when I was still green, was with a Polish B&S who was actually way better looking than the pictures used on her profile. Decent service as well. That's certainly the exception rather than the rule and nowadays I'd walk and have done so on principle, but it can happen.

Some over Photoshopped pics for £150/hr+ escorts, in particular agencies but a few independents as well, bear so little resemblance to reality that they might as well be a B&S.

I have had a great B&S punt myself but I accept based on reviews it is not the norm. Most are a disaster.

The service starts as soon as you make a commitment to book an escort mate.

So, generally speaking ...

- false advertising (B&S)
- Old/out of date pics
- initial comms (phone & text)
- promptness in responding to your enquiries

If you cannot see the above, if negative, all plays a part to the type of fuck/experience  you will eventually receive and in turn is much more present in SPs at the lower end of the market then I give up.
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I have had a great B&S punt myself but I accept based on reviews it is not the norm. Most are a disaster.

The service starts as soon as you make a commitment to book an escort mate.

So, generally speaking ...

- false advertising (B&S)
- Old/out of date pics
- initial comms (phone & text)
- promptness in responding to your enquiries

If you cannot see the above, if negative, all plays a part to the type of fuck/experience  you will eventually receive and in turn is much more present in SPs at the lower end of the market then I give up.

These 4 things happen at ALL ends of the market and always have done in my experiences, on here overall many reviews are at the lower end in my observations over 9 years as a member so I would expect there to have been more problems with WGs at the lower end as they have been reviewed more.


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Just from personal experience I've always had a good time with Latinas.  :unknown:

Same with me. I cannot think of a single poor Latina punt I've had in the UK or overseas

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These 4 things happen at ALL ends of the market and always have done in my experiences, on here overall many reviews are at the lower end in my observations over 9 years as a member so I would expect there to have been more problems with WGs at the lower end as they have been reviewed more.

That may well be true but expressed as a percentage rather than numbers uniformity will kick and they should largely be the same regardless of price.

They are not.
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I have had a great B&S punt myself but I accept based on reviews it is not the norm. Most are a disaster.

The service starts as soon as you make a commitment to book an escort mate.

So, generally speaking ...

- false advertising (B&S)
- Old/out of date pics
- initial comms (phone & text)
- promptness in responding to your enquiries

If you cannot see the above, if negative, all plays a part to the type of fuck/experience  you will eventually receive and in turn is much more present in SPs at the lower end of the market then I give up.
Sounds like you've swallowed the "high class" escort BS hook line and sinker. If you believe that paying double for a glass of champagne over a glass of water makes for a better punt then more fool you.

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From my experience Latinas are as good/bad as any other group. I rarely go for extras and I prefer vanilla service with covered bj.  :hi:
Below list provides the total number of WGs that I have seen in recent years (since I started recording my punts) and percentage of bad WGs

Nationality - Total WGs - Positive & Neutral experience - Negative experience - % of bad WGs
Hungarian  - 20 - 17 - 3 - 15.00
Polish - 12 - 10 - 2 - 16.67
Latina - 16 - 13 - 3 - 18.75
Romanian - 22 - 17 - 5 - 22.72
British - 14 - 10 - 4 - 28.57


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That may well be true but expressed as a percentage rather than numbers uniformity will kick and they should largely be the same regardless of price.

They are not.

Its true in my own experiences and those of punters i know and trust and that is what matters to me.

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Same with me. I cannot think of a single poor Latina punt I've had in the UK or overseas

In my experiences of ringing Brazilian WGs in my area over the last couple of years pre-lockdown i am struggling to think of 1 who had been honest on her profile about what she charged in reality. Many of those profiles didn't state the extra for OWO. There are some well dodgy Brazilians if that's what they really are in my area including a brothel i went to to be met by a WG who didn't look like her pics, i walked and did a negative review on here.


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I have only seen 2 Latino girls.

Hannah Pornstar - much has been said about varying services and confusion over what services are actually on offer.  I should also throw in that "Pornstar" in her name is a total misrepresentation, and in more reputable businesses would an infringement.  Just to make it clear she has never been a pornstar.  Generally her services although vanilla are very good but don't be fooled about what is available.

Mia from Hoxton/Shoreditch - totally different in attitude and what is on AW is what you get.  She is probably the one that breaks the rule about poor services from Latinas.  Sweet gentle nature and very pleasantly, appears to actually care about pleasing her client.

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To be honest, to fuck a hottie you have to be prepared to let go of at least £170 from your wallet (all nationalities and all inclusive GFE )
If one is going to cry and whinge then don't bother going or go to the not so good looking one's..
It is that simple..
Not always true KT.  :) One need to be patient and use this forum well to get super hottie who provides good gfe service at £120. Here is one example  ;)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=262565.0

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Not always true KT.  :) One need to be patient and use this forum well to get super hottie who provides good gfe service at £120. Here is one example  ;)
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=262565.0

as i have said before very rare
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Sounds like you've swallowed the "high class" escort BS hook line and sinker. If you believe that paying double for a glass of champagne over a glass of water makes for a better punt then more fool you.

Not at all my learned friend.

You will see from my own reviews what my typical punting price range is (which in London is hardly high class champer loving pro$$ies) so check your facts first bro before you spout nonsense.

Talking of rates dare I say of the 12 reviews posted by you they are above the average for Scotland and NE. So frankly you don't practice what you preach my friend. No doubt your retort will be you don't review every SP you fuck and have had many a tasty sub £120 SPs.

If that's the case where are the reviews mate???

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Not at all my learned friend.

You will see from my own reviews what my typical punting price range is (which in London is hardly high class champer loving pro$$ies) so check your facts first bro before you spout nonsense.

Talking of rates dare I say of the 12 reviews posted by you they are above the average for Scotland and NE. So frankly you don't practice what you preach my friend. No doubt your retort will be you don't review every SP you fuck and have had many a tasty sub £120 SPs.

If that's the case where are the reviews mate???
You're not very good at analysing data then, are you?

Of my 12 reviews:
1 was a 90 min punt
1 was a duo
5 were TS of which 2 were below the typical TS punt rate of £150-200
2 included anal as an extra charge.

Correct, I don't review every punt on here. However, as the majority of my punts are TS your magical £120 figure doesn't apply anyway.


 
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You're not very good at analysing data then, are you?

Of my 12 reviews:
1 was a 90 min punt
1 was a duo
5 were TS of which 2 were below the typical TS punt rate of £150-200
2 included anal as an extra charge.

Correct, I don't review every punt on here. However, as the majority of my punts are TS your magical £120 figure doesn't apply anyway.

I already know the breakdown of your punts and the TS ratio. The rate you have paid is not the average  rate for Scotland and NE TS or otherwise.

Insofar as your magical budget punts that happened to be great. You have posted no evidence that these SPs exist so we can objectively examine. Until you do I have to conclude it's just a load of porkies.
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I already know the breakdown of your punts and the TS ratio. The rate you have paid is not the average  rate for Scotland and NE TS or otherwise.

Insofar as your magical budget punts that happened to be great. You have posted no evidence that these SPs exist so we can objectively examine. Until you do I have to conclude it's just a load of porkies.
What "magical budget punts" are you on about? My claim is simple and remains the same as my first post in this thread, there is no corellation between price and service. I did not specify any price ranges. You keep moving the goalposts and bringing in things like average rates.
As for asking for evidence. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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as i have said before very rare

Not in my experiences its not been very rare over the years, and anyway you originally stated £170 which is what I challenged you about, as I said that's shit, plenty of good hot WGs in MY view about for well under £170.

Under £90 an hour is rare in my experiences though. Anyway I have no need or didn't pre-lockdown to pay £170 unless I really fancied the WG enough and could easily find good to me WGs from £90-140 an hour.

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Not in my experiences its not been very rare over the years, and anyway you originally stated £170 which is what I challenged you about, as I said that's shit, plenty of good hot WGs in MY view about for well under £170.

Under £90 an hour is rare in my experiences though. Anyway I have no need or didn't pre-lockdown to pay £170 unless I really fancied the WG enough and could easily find good to me WGs from £90-140 an hour.

 we are both very experienced punters and seen sometimes the same hotties..
So we can go halfway house on this to agree to disagree :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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