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Offline boardyhell

did a credit score check for the first time a couple of months ago and found out i have a pretty decent one
just got an email saying my rating has gone up
suspect its because i paid my vat bill and mortgage last month, although i could have taken a holiday
not exactly flush but its got to be paid eventually
wonder whether it would have down on the quiet if i had taken a holiday
don't trust the banks etc

Online maxxblue

did a credit score check for the first time a couple of months ago and found out i have a pretty decent one
just got an email saying my rating has gone up
suspect its because i paid my vat bill and mortgage last month, although i could have taken a holiday
not exactly flush but its got to be paid eventually
wonder whether it would have down on the quiet if i had taken a holiday
don't trust the banks etc

boardyhell

Offline Rabbit63

Why is your sex life similar to a savings account?

As soon as you make a withdrawal, you start losing interest ...

Offline King Nuts

I think there's a lot of quackery around credit scores. I did mine on Experian and got the max possible score. I don't have any debt and have never defaulted on repayments of past debt, so that's as it should be. I've also got plenty of headroom on unused credit cards.

I also checked on Clear Score. Was below the national average. Bit odd, so I emailed them to query. For no apparent reason, it shot back up 200 points.

Then a short while back, I applied for a personal car lease. Got turned down, on the basis my score was too low. But my circs. are unchanged over the last couple of years.

I suspect most of these scoring outfits are a racket, designed to do no more than sell you credit you don't actually need.




Offline The_Don

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don't trust the banks etc

About 10 years ago an ex colleague made a big change to his life, part of that was moving into finance. Over the years he has advised a number of people I know, in relation to credit. Credit scores, can be manipulated to suit, what that person needed it for.   
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 06:04:13 pm by The_Don »

Offline David1970

Never checked my credit score, don’t see the point.

Offline tom269u001

You can get your credit score for free via money saving expert (MSE).

Besides rarely using my arranged bank overdraft, I've remained debt free. My credit score is good.

But, a few years ago, I wanted to buy a product where had to pay the balance after 12 or 18 months or so. I was declined. I'm guessing the seller used my credit score to see that I would never pay them any interest. I'm guessing though.

Oddly, I get messages from MSE stating that my score has changed - yet my financial circumstances haven't. Very odd.

Offline NIK

Credit scores can vary on different sites too.
This suggests either they use different criteria or it is all bollocks.

Offline King Nuts

Credit scores can vary on different sites too.
This suggests either they use different criteria or it is all bollocks.

I'm going with 'bollocks'.

Sign up to three different scorers and you'll get three very different scores.

They're all fronts for various userers.

'Neither a lender nor a borrower be', as someone once said. (I think it was Ken Dodd.)


Offline king tarzan

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Never had a credit card in my life or ever will..
I am a firm believer live within your financial means.. Cash only/debit card......  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbs:
I am 100% definitely eye of the 🐅👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊 on this 1 always..
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Offline Moby Dick

Never had a credit card in my life or ever will..
I am a firm believer live within your financial means.. Cash only/debit card......  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbs:
I am 100% definitely eye of the 🐅👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊 on this 1 always..

Nah live life to the full.
No point dying with money in the bank.
Run up credit to waste on everyday stuff, free up some cash to invest in whores, die a happy man knowing your last cheque will bounce.


Offline king tarzan

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Nah live life to the full.
No point dying with money in the bank.
Run up credit to waste on everyday stuff, free up some cash to invest in whores, die a happy man knowing your last cheque will bounce.

each to there own methods..
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Offline NIK

Nah live life to the full.
No point dying with money in the bank.
Run up credit to waste on everyday stuff, free up some cash to invest in whores, die a happy man knowing your last cheque will bounce.

That has been my philosophy.
Although unfortunately, I don't think I was aware of it until it was too late.
Now I don't have a pot to piss in and just live off the memories.   :blush:
« Last Edit: June 11, 2020, 01:17:11 pm by NIK »

Offline Moby Dick

That has been my philosophy.
Although unfortunately, I don't think I was aware of it until it was too late.
Now I don't have a pot to piss in.   :blush:

Euthanasia is the answer.
Life would be so much easier to plan if we had a termination/expiry date.
We would probably all live more fulfilled lives and not worry about making ends meet and running out of money.

Offline cultvoid

Until a Couple of years ago I was drowning in debt. Credit cards for which I could only cover the minimum payments. So no realistic chance of ever repaying in my lifetime.

As a result, I had nearly the highest possible Experian score. ‘Excellent’.

Luckily I’d run up the debts for a business which after years of struggle  finally took off. I paid the lot off in about 4 months.

The day I was debt free you can probably guess what had happened to my credit rating : halved. Dropped from ‘excellent’ to ‘fair’.

Credit ratings reflect your potential as a customer,  not how good you are at managing debt. When I was struggling to pay the minimum I was an ideal customer. Now I’ve got zero balances they don’t think much of me.  :yahoo:
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Offline Moby Dick

Until a Couple of years ago I was drowning in debt. Credit cards for which I could only cover the minimum payments. So no realistic chance of ever repaying in my lifetime.

As a result, I had nearly the highest possible Experian score. ‘Excellent’.

Luckily I’d run up the debts for a business which after years of struggle  finally took off. I paid the lot off in about 4 months.

The day I was debt free you can probably guess what had happened to my credit rating : halved. Dropped from ‘excellent’ to ‘fair’.

Credit ratings reflect your potential as a customer,  not how good you are at managing debt. When I was struggling to pay the minimum I was an ideal customer. Now I’ve got zero balances they don’t think much of me.  :yahoo:

To borrow money you first have to prove you don’t need it.

Offline cultvoid

But, a few years ago, I wanted to buy a product where had to pay the balance after 12 or 18 months or so. I was declined. I'm guessing the seller used my credit score to see that I would never pay them any interest. I'm guessing though.

Oddly, I get messages from MSE stating that my score has changed - yet my financial circumstances haven't. Very odd.

Exactly right. With a good credit score you were a terrible prospect. They want people to default on 0% loans so that they then incur punitive interest.  People often get butthurt at being refused 0% credit, it's actually a compliment.

If you ever get declined for a mobile phone contract, on the other hand, you might as well declare bankruptcy and be done with it.

Offline RedKettle

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If you ever get declined for a mobile phone contract, on the other hand, you might as well declare bankruptcy and be done with it.

That has reminded me I was declined by Vodafone some years ago, in a store and a little embarrassing.  Realised why, not going to explain here but it was something which I could explain and prove beyond any doubt.  However the staff could not do anything, once you had been declined no further application could be made for a period of time, I think it was 6 months.  Classic case of the computer says no.

No biggie went to another company got accepted straight away and myself and family have spent a fucking fortune on phone contracts for many years with them. At least thinking about Vodafone not getting my cash cheers me up.

Offline sub_marine

It's all just a racket, I had never checked my credit score before but out of curiosity checked it with experion, was a ball hair off the max score.  A few months later I was trying to take advantage of a government loan scheme to buy some equipment, had to fill out a credit score thing with a different providor, thought it was just a formality, but got denied.  Called the loan scheme office and explained my experian score but all they could say was its not up for discussion.  Called the credit scoring firm that they use, they basically said the same, but if I paid a fee I could at least be told what my current score was, although it might have changed since the government was given my score.

As it was I had plenty cash at the time to buy the equipment outright, but pissed me off at the time that the politicians are standing up there talking about investing in the future but then use a mickey mouse credit agency and deny proper viable businesses the chance to access to help.

Offline NIK

I think it has already been touched upon in the thread, but the credit reference agencies tend to be really about trying to sell you credit cards and loans. To get the full information you usually have to pay a subscription. You can join for free but all you tend to get are referrals for credit and not full access to your details. I told one of them this when they asked why I wanted to cancel my subscription when the free trial period was due to expire.

Offline tom269u001

To get the full information you usually have to pay a subscription.
I don't know what you would get if you subscibed to a supplier.
However, the free MSE service provides loads of info.
My credit rating is now Excellent. But, unsurprisingly, my credit cards/loans affordability is very weak!

Offline sub_marine

I don't know what you would get if you subscibed to a supplier.
However, the free MSE service provides loads of info.
My credit rating is now Excellent. But, unsurprisingly, my credit cards/loans affordability is very weak!

It all depends which agency you refer to though, as they all do the calculations differently, so you may be Excellent on MSE, but poor on whoever is the car loan people use

Curious if you do a FOI letter, how much information they would give about how they derive the score, and if diferent agencies are more or less in depth

Offline GingerNuts

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It all depends which agency you refer to though, as they all do the calculations differently, so you may be Excellent on MSE, but poor on whoever is the car loan people use

Curious if you do a FOI letter, how much information they would give about how they derive the score, and if diferent agencies are more or less in depth

An FOI request will get you nothing as they're not a public authority or a businesses that carries out public functions.

You would need to make a Data Subject Access Request.

Offline Payyourwaymate

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Euthanasia is the answer.
Life would be so much easier to plan if we had a termination/expiry date.
We would probably all live more fulfilled lives and not worry about making ends meet and running out of money.

Are you really sure about that?

Offline Moby Dick

Are you really sure about that?
Absolutely.

You’d appreciate that time is more valuable than money or “things” and live a more fulfilled life.
So many people try to live a long life, squirrelling away for the future, a day that they would be too old to enjoy it, or even dead, but really you should get on with living for today.
Having a set timeline would make financial planning a certainty.

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Absolutely.

You’d appreciate that time is more valuable than money or “things” and live a more fulfilled life.
So many people try to live a long life, squirrelling away for the future, a day that they would be too old to enjoy it, or even dead, but really you should get on with living for today.
Having a set timeline would make financial planning a certainty.

That is a fair point and in an ideal world that could work. However, I do feel that if that option was available, it would open a new can of worms though.

Offline Home Alone

Never checked my credit score, don’t see the point.

+1.

I do, however, keep an eye on the bank statement; and not being able to go out for meals with friends, or have weekends away, is doing wonders for it!

And, of course, my punting budget, whenever the opportunity will present itself to raid it!  :D  :yahoo: