Anyone Else Get Annoyed By How Much Cammers Seem To Make

[MrMatrix]

I know someone who cams and she charges £5 per-minute. She has regulars that she will cam with for 3 hours and add  to that she doesn't always take her kit off either. A friend of hers took over a £100K off someone last year. As she said if she didnt do it some one else would and she is right.  It would be cheaper to go London and get the real deal for a lot less. She is making a fortune on there, but she is only supplying the service to meet that demand. If there are stupid fucking idiots who dont value money then they will lose it. They have to option not to do it. I would resent paying a cam girl in any case as a complete waste of money

[FLYING BLUE]

They have never had a bean from me. Total waste of money if ever there was.

Me neither, and they never will.

[Hobbit]

It's an easy living as long as fucking idiots keep paying for it. There's an understandable need for it due to the current climate but real sex will always win and never die. So no need to fear. Once this Covid-19 has passed, girls will be back wanting dick, and camming will go back down. 

[ik8133]

I go on to Chaturbate now and again, I haven't paid a penny, I let others pay and enjoy the public shows for free!

[johnbanebridge]

What also annoys me is that camming is not subject to VAT. It really ought to be, think how much it would contribute to the treasury, especially in the current climate.

[Spencer Fobby]

What also annoys me is that camming is not subject to VAT. It really ought to be, think how much it would contribute to the treasury, especially in the current climate.

You really need to find more productive things to get annoyed at.  So much speculation in what you've posted so far and at the end of the day, it's consenting adults doing what they choose to enjoy. 
And if you stop to think for a moment, getting annoyed at it is having zero effect on anyone other than you.
I suggest you find another pet hate and move on.

[timsussex]

You really need to find more productive things to get annoyed at.  So much speculation in what you've posted so far and at the end of the day, it's consenting adults doing what they choose to enjoy. 
And if you stop to think for a moment, getting annoyed at it is having zero effect on anyone other than you.
I suggest you find another pet hate and move on.

Indeed, at least you have a choice both of where you spend your hard earned and who to dislike
perhaps I can offer a list
Footballers (already mentioned) NHS bosses (not nurses!), virtually any top civil servant and definitely head of every government Quango, bosses of any nationalised industry, internet influencers and thats without getting personal when Phillip Green, Piers Morgan come into play

[Cash drawers]

ik8133. I totally agree, I go on Chaturbate now and again, why pay? When the lock down is lifted, I may spend some cash for real!

[Colston36]

Sorry fella, It varies a lot. Most easily get a £1K a week after taxes. Some get much more.

Where do you get your £1,000 a week from? There seems to be a rich vein of envy mixed with BS about this subject..

[johnbanebridge]

Where do you get your £1,000 a week from? There seems to be a rich vein of envy mixed with BS about this subject..

I'd love to get that much money for sitting on my arse all day, in front of a computer with the telly on. That's part of my annoyance. It's too easy. Regrettably men can't do it.

[daviemac]

I'd love to get that much money for sitting on my arse all day, in front of a computer with the telly on. That's part of my annoyance. It's too easy. Regrettably men can't do it.

There's something seriously wrong with you, have you though about getting help, you really need it.

Have you forgotten this is a punters forum, where most members pay for sexual activity. I think it's been indicated before but you need to get a life and give this obsession a rest.

[dubs]

I'd love to get that much money for sitting on my arse all day, in front of a computer with the telly on. That's part of my annoyance. It's too easy. Regrettably men can't do it.

Chaturbate has a Male section if you want to boost their earnings.

Jeez you sound like a bitter envious self-pitying misogynist.  Get a life mate!

Next you'll be telling us that you hate catwalk supermodels getting $millions for putting some clothes on and walking, or wearing a bikini on the beach of a Caribbean island.

[southcoastpunter]

Next you'll be telling us that you hate catwalk supermodels getting $millions for putting some clothes on and walking, or wearing a bikini on the beach of a Caribbean island.

........ and I hate the fact that when you get rich and famous, you get GIVEN designer clothes to wear, expensive handbags to hold, posh sunglasses to stick up on your head etc to promote the brands.... and we poor people don't get given nothing!

[kuck]

They easily make $5,000 to $10,000 per shoot.   
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[Payyourwaymate]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

Blame the men that are paying them. Good thing you have not found out about how much the top earning women are making from onlyfans for selling pics and silly videos, you would really be annoyed then  .

[johnbanebridge]

Blame the men that are paying them. Good thing you have not found out about how much the top earning women are making from onlyfans for selling pics and silly videos, you would really be annoyed then  .

Believe me I am fully aware about that as well. I find the whole thing depressing that society has enabled all this to happen. Men are all the problem unfortunately, this is an issue perpetuated by the market.

They easily make $5,000 to $10,000 per shoot.   
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At-least Pornstars actually have to work for their money. Spend a whole day and work on set etc. You can't say the same about camming and the only fans brigade.

[southcoastpunter]

 Men are all the problem

Are you sure you are not a woman?? (lol)

[hermanmunster]

Just keep practising your football skills and you can earn the same ridiculous money via man's best option.

[johnbanebridge]

Are you sure you are not a woman?? (lol)

If I was, I'd be camming  Making £1K a week easy-peasy, perhaps I will get a long blonde wig and tuck my willy between my legs and give it a try. 

[johnbanebridge]

Just keep practising your football skills and you can earn the same ridiculous money via man's best option.

Do you not think footballers are more deserving of a large salary than a cammer?

All sportsmen train every day, dedicate years of their lives. Real sacrifice, can you really say the same about these cam girls? Most of whom couldn't hack it in the real world.

[lostandfound]

Do you not think footballers are more deserving of a large salary than a cammer?

All sportsmen train every day, dedicate years of their lives. Real sacrifice, can you really say the same about these cam girls? Most of whom couldn't hack it in the real world.

Would that be the same real world that pays them £1K a week, according to you?

[johnbanebridge]

Would that be the same real world that pays them £1K a week, according to you?

Honestly some of these woman, not all obviously, are raking it in. Some of them just talk, no nudity or playing.

[lostandfound]

Honestly some of these woman, not all obviously, are raking it in. Some of them just talk, no nudity or playing.

Seem pretty smart then, wouldn't you say? Charming the £s out of those that are willing to cough up.

[johnbanebridge]

Seem pretty smart then, wouldn't you say? Charming the £s out of those that are willing to cough up.

They aren't exactly pioneers, they didn't think of this themselves. If they created the site themselves, I'd be willing to give them some entrepreneurial credit. The real smart people are the people who set up these sites in the first place, imagine having a stake in AW, Onlyfans, Chatubate and MFC.

Again totally agree it's the misguided people who cough up who are facilitating all this, I wish they would wise up.

[lostandfound]

They aren't exactly pioneers, they didn't think of this themselves. If they created the site themselves, I'd be willing to give them some entrepreneurial credit. The real smart people are the people who set up these sites in the first place, imagine having a stake in AW, Onlyfans, Chatubate and MFC.

Again totally agree it's the morons who cough up who are facilitating all this, I wish they would wise up.

Wise up? They're paying their money and getting their rocks off. It's not cool to call other punters morons. 

[johnbanebridge]

Wise up? They're paying their money and getting their rocks off. It's not cool to call other punters morons. 

Sorry that was a bit harsh, I'll amend it. but are cam viewers proper punters though?

[lostandfound]

Sorry that was a bit harsh, I'll amend it. but are cam viewers proper punters though?

Course they are. We're all brothers in this hobby. Don't look down on anyone who indulges their libido, causes no harm and is willing to pay for their pleasure.

[johnbanebridge]

Course they are. We're all brothers in this hobby. Don't look down on anyone who indulges their libido, causes no harm and is willing to pay for their pleasure.

Respectfully disagree.

[daviemac]

Sorry that was a bit harsh, I'll amend it. but are cam viewers proper punters though?

Right enough is enough, insulting punters, no matter how they choose to punt, is not on.

Your obsession is getting rediculas now, time to back off and leave it. Try and make some useful contribution to the site, instead of this trolling.

[kuck]

At-least Pornstars actually have to work for their money. Spend a whole day and work on set etc. You can't say the same about camming and the only fans brigade.

It takes a lot of effort to run a successful onlyfans account. Most girls aren't making great sums of money. The ones that are require a lot of work to get subscribers and then to keep them.

[johnbanebridge]

Right enough is enough, insulting punters, no matter how they choose to punt, is not on.

Your obsession is getting rediculas now, time to back off and leave it. Try and make some useful contribution to the site, instead of this trolling.

If I get banned for replying to this than so be it.

I've not insulted anyone in this thread. I've been very polite throughout it all, even to those making insults to me.

I admit it was a little harsh and I have since redacted the statement; that being said I don't think calling a group of people morons is the worst thing in the world, certainly nothing to get outraged over. Being critical of how one spends money or intents to spends is why this site exists. Additionally No one person in particular was labelled and I am sure being have said far worse without as much as a slap on the wrist. As a side point I don't think you can call webcam viewers 'punters' I think a lot of people on here would respectively disagree.

I've not 'trolled' anyone, I've replied to others and put across my view reasonably.

I think most people would agree this has been an entertaining and lively debate. Unless I do anything which breaks the site rules, if this thread annoys you, then don't look at it. You've made your view clear on the subject, rather poorly I might add. Why don't you contribute elsewhere on the site, take a leaf out of your own book.

Nevertheless I would have thought you would be enjoying this thread, as it has given you an opportunity to get on your high horse. Something that you seem to enjoy.

[johnbanebridge]

It takes a lot of effort to run a successful onlyfans account. Most girls aren't making great sums of money. The ones that are require a lot of work to get subscribers and then to keep them.

I hope that's true, hope for society in the long run.

[ratedj]

If I get banned for replying to this than so be it.

I've not insulted anyone in this thread. I've been very polite throughout it all, even to those making insults to me.

I admit it was a little harsh and I have since redacted the statement; that being said I don't think calling a group of people morons is the worst thing in the world, certainly nothing to get outraged over. Being critical of how one spends money or intents to spends is why this site exists. Additionally No one person in particular was labelled and I am sure being have said far worse without as much as a slap on the wrist. As a side point I don't think you can call webcam viewers 'punters' I think a lot of people on here would respectively disagree.

I've not 'trolled' anyone, I've replied to others and put across my view reasonably.

I think most people would agree this has been an entertaining and lively debate. Unless I do anything which breaks the site rules, if this thread annoys you, then don't look at it. You've made your view clear on the subject, rather poorly I might add. Why don't you contribute elsewhere on the site, take a leaf out of your own book.

Nevertheless I would have thought you would be enjoying this thread, as it has given you an opportunity to get on your high horse. Something that you seem to enjoy.

I could be wrong but doesnt the site primarily exist to review WGs? In the whole I have to note that your tone has not been aggressive but rather neutral. I do disagree with your view, and to be honest I don't understand why it aggrivates you as much as it appears to, but hey, that's your prerogative. In the main I would agree that this topic has made for an engaing debate.

[willie loman]

Cam girls like footballers are paid by their fans, so I couldn't care less what they earn, it irritates me that some professional athletes are paid by the state, how is spending your life hopping from one end of the track to another a valid activity, for a grown up.

[daviemac]

If I get banned for replying to this than so be it.

I've not insulted anyone in this thread. I've been very polite throughout it all, even to those making insults to me.

I admit it was a little harsh and I have since redacted the statement; that being said I don't think calling a group of people morons is the worst thing in the world, certainly nothing to get outraged over. Being critical of how one spends money or intents to spends is why this site exists. Additionally No one person in particular was labelled and I am sure being have said far worse without as much as a slap on the wrist. As a side point I don't think you can call webcam viewers 'punters' I think a lot of people on here would respectively disagree.

I've not 'trolled' anyone, I've replied to others and put across my view reasonably.

I think most people would agree this has been an entertaining and lively debate. Unless I do anything which breaks the site rules, if this thread annoys you, then don't look at it. You've made your view clear on the subject, rather poorly I might add. Why don't you contribute elsewhere on the site, take a leaf out of your own book.

Nevertheless I would have thought you would be enjoying this thread, as it has given you an opportunity to get on your high horse. Something that you seem to enjoy.

Again totally agree it's the morons who cough up who are facilitating all this, I wish they would wise up.

Did you think it went unnoticed?

Throughout this thread your replies have been attempts to convince others that your opinion is correct, you can't accept that people can have a different view.

Two escorts have responded to you and indicated that your estimate of income is not accurate, yet you have chosen to ignore those comments. Also you need to bear in mind this is a very one sided 'debate' as, with the exception of the two mentioned, those who do webcam have no right of reply.

Unfortunately my reading bullshit threads goes with the territory, so do not tell me what I should or shouldn't look at, or indeed what parts of the site I should contribute to.

If you really want to get technical them check the rules.
 

As life in the punting world has changed and FR's are now in short supply this board is back. Act responsibly. If it turns into a war zone it will be culled.

We are not going to add to the Mods workload to move off-topic posts here so any such new topics on the punting related boards will simply be deleted.

All site rules will continue to apply.

17 Dogging / Swinging / Webcamming / Phone Chat / Porn
Not Allowed.

However allowances are made given the present circumstances, especially in off topic.

[johnbanebridge]

Did you think it went unnoticed?

Throughout this thread your replies have been attempts to convince others that your opinion is correct, you can't accept that people can have a different view.

Two escorts have responded to you and indicated that your estimate of income is not accurate, yet you have chosen to ignore those comments. Also you need to bear in mind this is a very one sided 'debate' as, with the exception of the two mentioned, those who do webcam have no right of reply.

Unfortunately my reading bullshit threads goes with the territory, so do not tell me what I should or shouldn't look at, or indeed what parts of the site I should contribute to.

If you really want to get technical them check the rules.
 
17 Dogging / Swinging / Webcamming / Phone Chat / Porn
Not Allowed.

However allowances are made given the present circumstances, especially in off topic.

I know it was noticed, it was a point of principle to redact, that the choice of word was a little harsh, not an attempt to hide anything. Thank you for pointing out that site rule and I am pleased the community is generous with the allowances at this time and it was considered when starting this thread. Just a minor point, given that rule exists it would seem to infer that who ever devised it seems to support my view that webcamming isn't punting.

Where in this thread have I denied or attacked anyone's view in this thread. This has been rather open to be honest. I've not been critical of anyone who has a differing view. 

I am pleased the two escorts contributed however others have provided their own evidence which supports my view.

[Payyourwaymate]

Believe me I am fully aware about that as well. I find the whole thing depressing that society has enabled all this to happen. Men are all the problem unfortunately, this is an issue perpetuated by the market.

At-least Pornstars actually have to work for their money. Spend a whole day and work on set etc. You can't say the same about camming and the only fans brigade.

Would that not make the pornstars the silly ones for working so hard and getting paid less compared to the cammers and picture sellers who work less and get paid more in some instances?

So then what would you say about this chick?

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She does not cam and or fuck men on set and was making almost $50K a month hosting in Japan club bars and getting gifts from men . People are free to do what they want, does it make sense as to why they pay? Not to me but it's their money at the end of the day. Getting upset will change nothing. These men want some form of affection or entertainment and their outlet is to pay these girls, if the girls see it as a get rich scheme and take advantage who are we to stop them?

[daviemac]

I know it was noticed, it was a point of principle to redact, that the choice of word was a little harsh, not an attempt to hide anything. Thank you for pointing out that site rule and I am pleased the community is generous with the allowances at this time and it was considered when starting this thread. Just a minor point, given that rule exists it would seem to infer that who ever devised it seems to support my view that webcamming isn't punting.

Where in this thread have I denied or attacked anyone's view in this thread. This has been rather open to be honest. I've not been critical of anyone who has a differing view. 

I am pleased the two escorts contributed however others have provided their own evidence which supports my view.

The subject matter isn't the real issue on this thread, it's, what I see as, your misguided annoyance that cammers make money. From the title and your subsequent posts it is the fact they make money at all that you have an issue with. 

I honestly don't understand your logic, you've paid one escort £195 for one hour and had a neutral experience, you paid another one £250 for one hour for a negative experience, yet you get all worked up because a lass uses her initiative and does cam work to make a few quid, a service you have not said you use.

The way I look at it is you either genuinely get annoyed about the fact cam girls make money or this is a troll type of thread, posted for attention. If it's the former then I really do think you need help, your obsession with this one issue can not be healthy.  As always time will tell if it's the latter.

[johnbanebridge]

The subject matter isn't the real issue on this thread, it's, what I see as, your misguided annoyance that cammers make money. From the title and your subsequent posts it is the fact they make money at all that you have an issue with. 

I honestly don't understand your logic, you've paid one escort £195 for one hour and had a neutral experience, you paid another one £250 for one hour for a negative experience, yet you get all worked up because a lass uses her initiative and does cam work to make a few quid, a service you have not said you use.

The way I look at it is you either genuinely get annoyed about the fact cam girls make money or this is a troll type of thread, posted for attention. If it's the former then I really do think you need help, your obsession with this one issue can not be healthy.  As always time will tell if it's the latter.

With all due respect, whose the obsessive one? You've said your piece and given your opinion on the topic yet you keep coming back only to insult me and looking at my previous posts and reviews on here.

All I've done is start a thread, responded to a few people as to why I hold the annoyance which is essentially the principle that some people are doing very little and getting a disproportionate reward for that little effort. I am sure we can relate to that in some way yet you are labelling me as some sort psychopath and boardering on personal attacks. You've gone to the effort to research me, do you not think that is slightly obsessive?

[johnbanebridge]

Would that not make the pornstars the silly ones for working so hard and getting paid less compared to the cammers and picture sellers who work less and get paid more in some instances?

So then what would you say about this chick?

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She does not cam and or fuck men on set and was making almost $50K a month hosting in Japan club bars and getting gifts from men . People are free to do what they want, does it make sense as to why they pay? Not to me but it's their money at the end of the day. Getting upset will change nothing. These men want some form of affection or entertainment and their outlet is to pay these girls, if the girls see it as a get rich scheme and take advantage who are we to stop them?

Never advocated stopping them, I do think that people should spend their money more wisely thus stoppimg the problem. To maybe ask and answer my own question, if you were to ask me whether I would make such practise illegal the answer would be no, however if I was in the position I would tax the individuals benefiting very high indeed.

As a sensible suggestion though camming should be subject to VAT in this country and at the moment it isn't.

[daviemac]

With all due respect, whose the obsessive one? You've said your piece and given your opinion on the topic yet you keep coming back only to insult me and looking at my previous posts and reviews on here.

All I've done is start a thread, responded to a few people as to why I hold the annoyance which is essentially the principle that some people are doing very little and getting a disproportionate reward for that little effort. I am sure we can relate to that in some way yet you are labelling me as some sort psychopath and boardering on personal attacks. You've gone to the effort to research me, do you not think that is slightly obsessive?

How do you expect me to know if you've made trollish posts in the past without looking into your history.   

* This is a classic example of the point I'm making, you are obsessed with this, again you are trying to convince me you are right, you just can't leave it. You actually have no idea of how much the majority of cam girls make or for how long they have to work to achieve it and they can't come on here to tell you, so your assumptions are basically flawed, you just can't accept it.

If you think me telling another human being I think they may need help with an obsession, they may not realise they have, is wrong, I can live with that.

FWIW I couldn't give a shit how much anyone else earns through legal means, it's not my business. If can girls make a fortune, good luck to them.

[johnbanebridge]

How do you expect me to know if you've made trollish posts in the past without looking into your history.   

* This is a classic example of the point I'm making, you are obsessed with this, again you are trying to convince me you are right, you just can't leave it. You actually have no idea of how much the majority of cam girls make or for how long they have to work to achieve it and they can't come on here to tell you, so your assumptions are basically flawed, you just can't accept it.

If you think me telling another human being I think they may need help with an obsession, they may not realise they have, is wrong, I can live with that.

FWIW I couldn't give a shit how much anyone else earns through legal means, it's not my business. If can girls make a fortune, good luck to them.

You know what I know what will make you feel better. I will give you my blessing to delete this entire thread. You can pretend I violated the site rules in some horrible way and you rode in and won the argument.

I am really not bothered about convincing you. You've made your point clear on this subject clear. You don't care how much people make as long as it is legal. A perfectly reasonable position albeit a little too pragmatic for my taste. Personally I am an idealist and I think people should be rewarded proportionately to the effort they put in and the benefit their product brings to society.

[daviemac]

You know what I know what will make you feel better. I will give you my blessing to delete this entire thread. You can pretend I violated the site rules in some horrible way and you rode in and won the argument.

I am really not bothered about convincing you. You've made your point clear on this subject clear. You don't care how much people make as long as it is legal. A perfectly reasonable position albeit a little too pragmatic for my taste. Personally I am an idealist and I think people should be rewarded proportionately to the effort they put in and the benefit their product brings to society.

Stop being so childish, others don't agree with you, learn to live with it.

[johnbanebridge]

Stop being so childish, others don't agree with you, learn to live with it.

How am I the childish one, you're supposed to be a moderator yet you keep coming back here just to have it out with me. I am not breaking any rules, I have not been abusive to anyone who has posted, I've not try to stifle anyone with an opposing view nor have I directly tried to convince those that have other. All I've done is put my own view across.

I don't get what you are trying to achieve. I am gonna be upfront with you, if someone posts here and I feel like responding I am going to.

[johnbanebridge]

On that note I am going to bed and log in tomorrow if you've not banned me.

[MrMatrix]

You know what I know what will make you feel better. I will give you my blessing to delete this entire thread. You can pretend I violated the site rules in some horrible way and you rode in and won the argument.

I am really not bothered about convincing you. You've made your point clear on this subject clear. You don't care how much people make as long as it is legal. A perfectly reasonable position albeit a little too pragmatic for my taste. Personally I am an idealist and I think people should be rewarded proportionately to the effort they put in and the benefit their product brings to society.

But as stated earlier people have choice, no matter how misdirected it is. They dont have to pay their prices but they do. If there is a demand which is continually being fed then they will charge as much as they can get- human nature. You could parallel this with footballers wages. All they do is kick a ball around a park and the top performers get serious money a week. Yet we have nurses who earn £25-30K a year who IMO do deserve much better salaries and are better value than any footballer or cam girl. Yes our values are out of kilter.
So long as people pay the inflated cam girl price, so long as people support the big clubs then they will continue to get big rewards. Market forces.
It is what it is. I neither pay for camming or attend football matches.
You've made your point John- move on matey

[daviemac]

How am I the childish one, you're supposed to be a moderator yet you keep coming back here just to have it out with me. I am not breaking any rules, I have not been abusive to anyone who has posted, I've not try to stifle anyone with an opposing view nor have I directly tried to convince those that have other. All I've done is put my own view across.

I don't get what you are trying to achieve. I am gonna be upfront with you, if someone posts here and I feel like responding I am going to.

Respond to who you like but not to me.  If you look my first post on this thread was not even in reply to anything you said, I was responding to Riprock's post. You decided to engage with me and convince me your point is valid and all you have done the same ever since.