Anyone Else Get Annoyed By How Much Cammers Seem To Make

[johnbanebridge]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

[houseboot]

Why bother with cam?   

There's plenty of free porn out there so why waste money?       

[NIK]

They have never had a bean from me. Total waste of money if ever there was.

[mr.bluesky]

Why bother with cam?   

There's plenty of free porn out there so why waste money?       

+1 .This is something I've never subscribed to and have no intention of doing so. Like houseboot says there is plenty of available online porn that's free to look at

[johnbanebridge]

Why bother with cam?   

There's plenty of free porn out there so why waste money?       

I completely agree, I wish more people would realise this

[Riprock]

Majorly annoying...lots of cash for offering very little.

[scutty brown]

Majorly annoying...lots of cash for offering very little.

Like footballers and other sportsmen

[daviemac]

Majorly annoying...lots of cash for offering very little.

I presume by that comment you pay for cam sessions, otherwise why would you get annoyed at someone making money from something that doesn't interest you.   

I don't see the point in paying for anything like that when there's so much available for free, including loads of cam sites.

[johnbanebridge]

I presume by that comment you pay for cam sessions, otherwise why would you get annoyed at someone making money from something that doesn't interest you.   

I don't see the point in paying for anything like that when there's so much available for free, including loads of cam sites.

My own annoyance stems from the fact there are people in other professions, nurses, care worker, front line emergency staff; who work a lot a harder and provide actual benefit to society receive a lot less.

You can make a similar argument for sports people however to be an elite sportsperson it takes years of dedication and constant training.

What dedication do cam girls have? and what actual benefit do they give society. Most cam girls get into camming because of a lack of dedication to anything.

[ratedj]

My own annoyance stems from the fact there are people in other professions, nurses, care worker, front line emergency staff; who work a lot a harder and provide actual benefit to society receive a lot less.

But then could you not also apply this notion to escorts?

[johnbanebridge]

But then could you not also apply this notion to escorts?

You can but to a lesser extent in my view. Escorts actually let you do something with them during the time, if you get what I mean.

[johnbanebridge]

You can but to a lesser extent in my view. Escorts actually do something with them during the time, if you get what I mean.

[ratedj]

You can but to a lesser extent in my view. Escorts actually let you do something with them during the time, if you get what I mean.

I get that, but cammers cannot make money unless people pay to view them, so maybe your hatred is being pointed in the wrong direction. Personally it's not my thing, but either way if they've devised a way to make money for very little work then who am I to complain? 

[ratedj]

Like footballers and other sportsmen

A completely different scenario.

[daviemac]

My own annoyance stems from the fact there are people in other professions, nurses, care worker, front line emergency staff; who work a lot a harder and provide actual benefit to society receive a lot less.

You can make a similar argument for sports people however to be an elite sportsperson it takes years of dedication and constant training.

What dedication do cam girls have? and what actual benefit do they give society. Most cam girls get into camming because of a lack of dedication to anything.

We all have the choice of what to do for a living, based on ability and personal preference. What is stopping any nurse, or any other woman for that matter, from doing cam work, they also have the free choice.

I don't understand why someone would get upset about anyone else's career choice, there's no logic to it.

Genuine question, how do you know how much cam girls make.    Unless you are the pimp and present whenever they are online you have no way of knowing how much they make. You may know how much they charge but that does not always equate to earnings. I know how much my local plumber charges, I have no idea of how busy he is or how much he earns per week. Same for escorts and cam girls.

[johnbanebridge]

I get that, but cammers cannot make money unless people pay to view them, so maybe your hatred is being pointed in the wrong direction. Personally it's not my thing, but either way if they've devised a way to make money for very little work then who am I to complain? 

Hatred is a strong word. I wouldn't go that far.

You are quite right though and I agree if the audience wised up none of the cam girls would be making money.

[lostandfound]

Always seems a bit odd to me, on a forum devoted to buying sex, for someone to be moaning about the cost. 

[johnbanebridge]

Always seems a bit odd to me, on a forum devoted to buying sex, for someone to be moaning about the cost.

Camming isn't buying sex, which was one of the points I made earlier and why I think cammers are less deserving.

[ratedj]

Hatred is a strong word. I wouldn't go that far.

You are quite right though and I agree if the audience wised up none of the cam girls would be making money.

Perhaps displeasure is more appropriate lol 

[lostandfound]

Camming isn't buying sex, which was one of the points I made earlier and why I think cammers are less deserving.

I disagree - it's just a digital form of it in my view, and that's why folks will pay a premium even when there's tons of free porn available.

If you don't want to pay the price, just move on. Seems like there are plenty who are happy too.

[winkywanky]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

Would you rather they were meeting punters in the current climate? 

Plenty of porn on the net, but if some guys must have that interactional aspect then that's down to them.

Just a cursory amount of research will show the best and/or cheapest.

Can't see a problem meself.

[Belgarion]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

I never get upset at other people making money. Not something that bothers me at all

[smiths]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

Why would I get annoyed anymore than I would for anyone else who makes money doing something legal, it makes no odds to me so I don't care. IF a woman makes great money off some mugs paying her for cam good luck to her. And at present rather cam work than being a WG seeing punters which many in my punting area are still doing, which means so are loads of punters.

[The Owl]

I've never paid a cammer. The only time I give a sex worker money is when I'm going to fuck her, otherwise it's pretty much a waste of money. I haven't paid for porn for a very long time now. The only thing that might change that is a very casual female acquaintance has joined Only Fans because of the coronavirus.

I don't care how much cammers make or charge per minute. If men want to pay the price then that's up to them. Getting angry over a cammers prices seems redundant unless you've got an addiction but buyers guilt/remorse afterwards.

This is a punting forum. Getting angry over money made by women for the sexual services they consensually provide seems a bit weird to me. All the actual punters on here are paying for it.

[hendrix]

This is a punting forum. Getting angry over money made by women for the sexual services they consensually provide seems a bit weird to me. All the actual punters on here are paying for it.

This. I'm quite happy to pay cammers that I want to see, who may not be available any other way.

Honestly don't understand people getting angry at people earning a living by any means necessary.

If you think it's "easy" shove an aubergine up your arse and see how that goes 

[johnbanebridge]

I just like to see people rewarded for hard work. Don't see how anything a webcammer does is hard. Thus I think the reward they get is a little unfair.

[daviemac]

I just like to see people rewarded for hard work. Don't see how anything a webcammer does is hard. Thus I think the reward they get is a little unfair.

Can you answer my question from earlier,   

Genuine question, how do you know how much cam girls make.    Unless you are the pimp and present whenever they are online you have no way of knowing how much they make. You may know how much they charge but that does not always equate to earnings. I know how much my local plumber charges, I have no idea of how busy he is or how much he earns per week. Same for escorts and cam girls.

[hendrix]

I just like to see people rewarded for hard work. Don't see how anything a webcammer does is hard. Thus I think the reward they get is a little unfair.

Have you ever tried it? As in any line of work, some people are better than others. Good cammers charge a lot, because they can, and because they're good at it.

[johnbanebridge]

Can you answer my question from earlier,   

Sorry fella, It varies a lot. Most easily get a £1K a week after taxes. Some get much more.

[Omerta101]

Like footballers and other sportsmen

So boxers, MMA fighters, marathon runners etc do fuck all and get paid for it? 

[daviemac]

Sorry fella, It varies a lot. Most easily get a £1K a week after taxes. Some get much more.

Can you show the evidence you have for that, or are you just speculating.   

[johnbanebridge]

So boxers, MMA fighters, marathon runners etc do fuck all and get paid for it? 

Just to clarify that isn't my view, top athletes have rigorous training regimes and have dedicated their lives to get to the top.

[johnbanebridge]

Can you show the evidence you have for that, or are you just speculating.   

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Not speculating, pulled it together from a number of sources.

[scutty brown]

So boxers, MMA fighters, marathon runners etc do fuck all and get paid for it? 

They do fuck all constructively useful. They're not creating anything or contributing wealth or growth. Bunch of overpaid parasites accumulating unwarranted wealth. They're the modern equivalent of the medieval self-enriching monks who Henry VIII got rid of.
About time these "elite atheletes" were taxed out of existence

[ulstersubbie]

Thus I think the reward they get is a little unfair.

Life isn't fair mate, never was. Personally I don't see the appeal of camming, but if some punters want to indulge then that's up to them.

[scutty brown]

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Not speculating, pulled it together from a number of sources.

That link says "can earn £100-£2500+ per week"
Note use of the word "can" not "will". They don't say how many DO earn that much, and anyway they have  vested interested in misrepresenting the facts

[ratedj]

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Not speculating, pulled it together from a number of sources.

The source you have linked says, 'Webcam models can earn between £100 - £2500+ a week.' Paying attention to the wording, there is a difference between what one can earn and what they will definitively earn. Also, considering that this quote emanates from a management agency that is likely to take their percentage of whatever figure, it is possible that these figures have been inflated somewhat. Either way, if they are able to make that amount of money then good on them. Last time I checked webcamming is not illegal, and I just don't have time to get annoyed by how much cammers make but instead focus my attention on imporving my remuneration as much as possible. 

[daviemac]

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Not speculating, pulled it together from a number of sources.

Have you got a reliable source to confirm exactly how much they earn, that link is to a pimp site who are trying to attract cam girls on to their books. They are hardly going to be honest and say that you might not actually earn as much as they lead them to believe.

So Ill ask again, can you show evidence of actual earnings of cam girls and not what others or pimps claim they can earn.

[ratedj]

They do fuck all constructively useful. They're not creating anything or contributing wealth or growth. Bunch of overpaid parasites accumulating unwarranted wealth. They're the modern equivalent of the medieval self-enriching monks who Henry VIII got rid of.
About time these "elite atheletes" were taxed out of existence

At best that is debatable. With you having referenced football in your original comment I'll note that not many people seemed to pay attention to how much pay a footballer recieved during the 70's or 80's, yet this matter became more prevelant during the 90s, 00s and even more so during the last decade. Simply put, from 2019 to 2022 the Premier Leage will make £4.46 bllion from its domestic TV deal and £4.2 billon from its overseas deal for the same time period. So taking that into consideration what players are paid really is a drop in the ocean. Players are paid based on the amount of money the sport generates. It's the same for other sports, namely NFL and F1. You may not like the fact that players are remunerated in the manner that they are but they are more than entitled to it.   

[southcoastpunter]

Re the OP's question - my answer is No.

I cannot understand guys who seem to get hot and bothered about how much a girl charges either for camming or as an escort. Like all other purchases, if YOU think its VFM, go for it, if not, DON'T. It really is that simple. We cannot and should not try to put our views on other people. We are all different, with different views on things and different income levels, different priorities etc etc.

As to top footballers and other elite sports people earning too much and not contributing to society........ who is to say that? Millions of people all over the world enjoy sports. The Premier League gets billions in revenue from 100's of countries across the globe via pay to view platforms/TV so a hell of a lot of people will say - they provide enjoyment, pleasure, entertainment and lots of talking points.

Are they really worth what they are paid? probably not but as one or two others have said, life and things in life are not always fair. Thats the way it is and probably always will be.

[B4bcock]

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Not always.

I recall one of my regulars telling me about a customer who has a foot fetish.    Apparently, he turns up and, after paying her for 30 minutes, she sits on the edge of the bed whilst he kneels down, carefully removes her shoes and spends around 10 to 15 minutes just stroking and kissing her feet.   Nothing else.   He seldom stays any longer and just gets up and leaves, having got full satisfaction.    The SP gets the quickest and easiest £70 she ever earns by just sitting on the bed.

[Ashleydowns_milf]

Sorry fella, It varies a lot. Most easily get a £1K a week after taxes. Some get much more.

Absolute rubbish grand a week. If it was that easy girls would all do this instead of escorting. Most girls are lucky to earn a couple hundred and that’s having it on all day and all night. If you want to get paid the following day you pay 40 percent as a commission. If you want to wait until AW pay you it’s at least 3 weeks until you get the money at slightly less commission.

I’m sorry but your way off. Also there are many men and couples that web cam. Most of the girls I know use it to purely pay for featuring and available today.

Don’t forget web cam is world wide so the people your talking to in say America can’t just book you for an AW booking to see you in person so a virtual meet is the next best thing.

Not everyone has the confidence  to meet an escort in person Or perhaps have disabilities. It’s different strokes for different folks.

[ratedj]

Absolute rubbish grand a week. If it was that easy girls would all do this instead of escorting. Most girls are lucky to earn a couple hundred and that’s having it on all day and all night. If you want to get paid the following day you pay 40 percent as a commission. If you want to wait until AW pay you it’s at least 3 weeks until you get the money at slightly less commission.

I’m sorry but your way off. Also there are many men and couples that web cam. Most of the girls I know use it to purely pay for featuring and available today.

Don’t forget web cam is world wide so the people your talking to in say America can’t just book you for an AW booking to see you in person so a virtual meet is the next best thing.

Not everyone has the confidence  to meet an escort in person Or perhaps have disabilities. It’s different strokes for different folks.

Thank you for your insight and clarifying points.

[Strawberry]

Absolute rubbish grand a week. If it was that easy girls would all do this instead of escorting. Most girls are lucky to earn a couple hundred and that’s having it on all day and all night. If you want to get paid the following day you pay 40 percent as a commission. If you want to wait until AW pay you it’s at least 3 weeks until you get the money at slightly less commission.

I’m sorry but your way off. Also there are many men and couples that web cam. Most of the girls I know use it to purely pay for featuring and available today.

Don’t forget web cam is world wide so the people your talking to in say America can’t just book you for an AW booking to see you in person so a virtual meet is the next best thing.

Not everyone has the confidence  to meet an escort in person Or perhaps have disabilities. It’s different strokes for different folks.

I'm very new to camming but so far this is the truth.

[Avg_Joe]

Hi All,

Does anyone else get annoyed by how much some cammers seem to make?

I know it's a free market and everything but it just seems ridiculous that some of them make so much just by talking on cam, some don't even do anything erotic on cam.

I know some escorts make massive amounts however at least they are actually doing something for the money.

Thoughts?

you have no idea 

this info got leaked a few years ago when MFC accidentally made public the top 250 models token earnings for each month.....

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this video was compiled from each months top girls listing, that happened to show how many tokens they got that month, fromt hat it's possible to work out the income.
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[robsmith149]

No not at all, they get none of my money so couldn't care less, and even if they did make a grand a week which is rare look at what these useless twats make.

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[smiths]

They do fuck all constructively useful. They're not creating anything or contributing wealth or growth. Bunch of overpaid parasites accumulating unwarranted wealth. They're the modern equivalent of the medieval self-enriching monks who Henry VIII got rid of.
About time these "elite atheletes" were taxed out of existence

What apart from providing entertainment to some if not many people, unlike you I see that as being constructive if I like the sport and the person. So as an example I love Wimbledon and the players mainly the men for me create entertainment I like, I don't begrudge them the great money they make.

Many many people are overpaid as I see it in many walks of life, IF what they do is legal my view is good luck to them usually. NO premiership footballer earns the tens of thousands a week they get paid in my book, but if I were one of them I would be taking the money and lapping it up. I don't blame them for the stupidity of how top flight football works, and this applies to many other sports.

Lennox Lewis once made $4 million by agreeing NOT to fight Tyson, it was all boxing politics, he didn't earn those millions, he was just the right man at the right time, step aside money so Tyson could box who he and Don King wanted to box which wasn't Lewis.

[johnbanebridge]

you have no idea 

this info got leaked a few years ago when MFC accidentally made public the top 250 models token earnings for each month.....

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this video was compiled from each months top girls listing, that happened to show how many tokens they got that month, fromt hat it's possible to work out the income.
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Any similar leaks from AW out there?

[Avg_Joe]

nope, not seen any, but can't say i've been looking... MFC is supposed to pay the models the most, compared to the rest of the sites that rip them off badly

[hermanmunster]

Apologies if I am repeating opinions already made, but I haven't read all comments.

Surely if these girls have identified an "easy" way of earning a living (without the need for qualifications) then good luck to them.  They just need to have confidence and possibly the ability to present themselves in an attractive or enticing way.  Wouldn't we all grab the chance to earn a good living if the opportunity came along (especially if we had no other way or generating income).  And it is guys viewing their webcam streams that provide the income.  This decent earning level probably only has a relatively short life of a few years.

I have just looked at one webcam site - a girl has since Friday (during a special promotional push) generated 9281 shots (costing 50 credits each).  Another girl was complaining that they only get paid $0.03 per credit.  So the girl who has generated 9281 shots has earnt in the 3 days since Friday 9281 x 50 x $0.03 = $13,921.  This is on top of any standard tips!  Obviously she may be a top earner on this site but that is good money for anybody for 3 days work.

Re footballers "excessive" salaries, they are like the salesmen in any typical business - if they are responsible for creating a certain level of income they get rewarded according to the income they have helped generate.  Salesmen get higher sales commissions and footballers get revised "inflated" contracts.  It is the way of the world and surely we would all feel happy if we were talented footballers and able to earn such sums?  Personally I only object to the way they act as prima donnas.