Cheated by Mira, I will stop this VS punting

[Nitsp81]

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This happened before the lockdown. This girl seems either a criminal or has some personality issues.
Been in touch with her in the past and she claimed she had no money for food or electricity or phone card. Always asking me to transfer money into her account, which I declined.
Finally we  agreed for a meet up, two hours for 180. She then ranted about whether I thought she was stupid and asked for 250. At which I blocked her number. She then texted me from  another number 07308725252, saying she is sorry and asking me to see her. We agreed on 100 for one hour, come twice. I really regret this, dont know what made me proceed.
The place, Birchfield road, B19 near Cost cutter. There was a sign on the wall, something about knife amnesty, so you could fathom the rest. A complete shithole of a place The girl is the one in the picture but much more larger, may be size 16 and had got terrible cellulite. She seemed very miserable and spaced out. As I have been dry for two months, balls did the thinking and decided to proceed
The room is basic, a flat share, with another room having a baby wailing, think they share the kitchen. Paper work completed she lay down and could well be asleep. I tried my best, to work things but hardly got any response. Bj ,covered was basic and sex was in doggy and finished in 15 mins. This took me to the first 30 mins of the booking.
With another 30 mins left, she then receives a call and says something like help, my aunty is coming, you go and come back in ten minutes. As I didn't want to create a scene I dressed up and left.
Sat in the car outside and waited for 15 mins with no call or texts. Checked her whats app and noticed I have been blocked! I now realise that I have been cheated, so go up to the door and knock on it. She comes out wearing a  track suit and says ' Your time is finished' I told her you cheated me of my money and she bascially swears at me and spits in my direction.  Such criminals I should say
I am not an aggresive person and think its better to leave, rather than get involved in a slanging match with a whore.
I am frankly done with VS. Most gals are  Rumenians, who give a very bad service and this is the second time I have been cheated. I wonder how VS allows her profile to be active. The spitting part was very demoralising, dont care much for the money. As for revenge, karma will get her , I hope

[Nitsp81]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

[Availableinlarge]

Oh man, that's a pisser. And 8 bad punts out of 9 is telling us something...

[GingerNuts]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

We can sympathise to an extent but this should never have got as far as you handing over any money.

And I thnk you've posted too much location information.

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[Nitsp81]

I don't expect any great service for 40-60£
But this is different, this is bordering on criminal with some sort of personality disorder. That's scary, jusy kick myself on why I didn't see this coming.
All the signs were there. Always  lied, constant demands for money for heart wrenching issues such as no food, mother unwell, no money for rent, in hindsight pure bull shit. Then the flip over to rude and arrogant behaviour and lastly this set up
I am sure, she asked her accomplice to make that call, exactly 30 mins into the punt. What is really the most shocking thing, is that she stood there, after cheating me and has the gaul to swear and spit. That's  real remarkable I  should say, no remorse, no feelings,nothing. If we make a mistake in our work, we profusely apologise and feel soo bad. These people are bordering on the sociopathic!!

[Nitsp81]

We can sympathise to an extent but this should never have got as far as you handing over any money.

And I thnk you've posted too much location information.

Thanks, but like all my punts, one always has to pay the money upfront. What  could I have done different? Or what did I have done wrong here?
Regarding the location, Birchfiled road is like a mile long. I am happy to modify that post though, had enough of hassle for the day. How can I go about doing that?

[GingerNuts]

Thanks, but like all my punts, one always has to pay the money upfront. What  could I have done different? Or what did I have done wrong here?

You ignored all the warning signs.

Been in touch with her in the past and she claimed she had no money for food or electricity or phone card. Always asking me to transfer money into her account, which I declined.
Finally we  agreed for a meet up, two hours for 180. She then ranted about whether I thought she was stupid and asked for 250. At which I blocked her number. She then texted me from  another number 07308725252, saying she is sorry and asking me to see her. We agreed on 100 for one hour, come twice. I really regret this, dont know what made me proceed.

You should have gone with your instinct and just ignored her.

A complete shithole of a place The girl is the one in the picture but much more larger, may be size 16 and had got terrible cellulite. She seemed very miserable and spaced out. As I have been dry for two months, balls did the thinking and decided to proceed

You should have walked.

Regarding the location, Birchfiled road is like a mile long. I am happy to modify that post though, had enough of hassle for the day. How can I go about doing that?

You'll need to report your post and ask for it to be edited for you.

[Nitsp81]

You ignored all the warning signs.

You should have gone with your instinct and just ignored her.

You should have walked.

You'll need to report your post and ask for it to be edited for you.

Totally agree, for some reason I let my guard down, although hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I think I have gone a bit soft and even hoped that I may find love on these sites! This was a pretty good wake up call, there are some pretty nasty creatures out there. Each time we walk into a house, you never know where it might lead to. Will try to sleep this off. The spitting part was pretty demeaning.. when one is actually the victim here!!! I can only describe such behaviour as criminal

[Adultworkuser]

Totally agree, for some reason I let my guard down, although hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I think I have gone a bit soft and even hoped that I may find love on these sites! This was a pretty good wake up call, there are some pretty nasty creatures out there. Each time we walk into a house, you never know where it might lead to. Will try to sleep this off. The spitting part was pretty demeaning.. when one is actually the victim here!!! I can only describe such behaviour as criminal

The punt happened before the lockdown but you need to sleep it off now?
I think we've all had some really bad punts that we wish never happened. But probably best we dont forget so we dont make the same mistakes again. Few years back I had such a bad experience I didn't punt for about 1 and a half years. Just move on and stop being so angry about why she did what she did. Remember these girls are just concerned about making their money they will never genuinely care about us or our feelings most of them see like atleast 5 of us a day why would they care lol

[Coriniumstud]

You have a lot of negative reviews, are you sure punting is for you ?

[Nitsp81]

You have a lot of negative reviews, are you sure punting is for you ?

So did the girl know about these reviews? Did it lead to me being cheated and scammed?
If you read my posts in more depth, you would have noticed that due to personal reasons I only punt from VS. Where the chances of getting a decent shag are 1/10. I have got used to mediocre or crap service , what else can you expect for 30-40£.
 What is unacceptable though is scamming or bad behaviour.
Sharing such info on this forum may be a means for me to warn others or a way of getting it off my chest. It does hurt, when you work 12-14 hours a day for this money and then someone scams you off.

[paul_davis]

You have a lot of negative reviews, are you sure punting is for you ?

This!

[WARSZAWA16]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

I have every sympathy but, come on!, the writing was on the wall from the start. All you have to do now is just learn from it and move on.

[Littlefoot]

I think I have gone a bit soft and even hoped that I may find love on these sites!

You’re looking on the wrong sort of sites if you want to find love. 

[The Owl]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

I'm sorry you haven't bothered listening to your own reviews where you keep bemoaning shit punts with Romanian escorts on VS.

Have you ever considered using UKP combined with AW to have a decent punt? You can search by postcode on AW too and see who's available now. You might have to give up your addiction to booking Romanian escorts though, good ones seem few and far between, even more so if you want a young and very attractive one.

[tesla]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

I know who is to blame for your crap punts  YOU

I have just read all your reviews, you fail to do proper research and due diligence , you bemoan both Viva street and the use of EE girls and yet you still do it...

no one  to blame but yourself

[oldmanking]

when this lockdown is over, and assuming you still want to find a good time?  i'd suggest you give VS a miss, and maybe try Gumtree or even AW?? 

[oldmanking]

I know who is to blame for your crap punts  YOU

I have just read all your reviews, you fail to do proper research and due diligence , you bemoan both Viva street and the use of EE girls and yet you still do it...

no one  to blame but yourself

and what he said above.... ^^^  if you go into things knowing it seems dodgy, but still proceed..... then you're basically a right spanner!

[Adultworkuser]

and what he said above.... ^^^  if you go into things knowing it seems dodgy, but still proceed..... then you're basically a right spanner!

If shes going out of the way to contact you to make a booking that's a massive red flag! I was once constantly texted through out the day a couple of years ago by a girl who I saw once saying shes available today etc. She even miss called me once.

[Nitsp81]

Thanks for all the posts and advise. Just to clarify a few things
1) I can't spend like 150-200 on AW. Within my limited budget, after tax and expenses, the only gals I can afford are on VS. It's either that, or an illegal user on Hagley or my hand. So VS and Rumenains are the least of all above evils.
2) The usual service on VS is crap but as mentioned, but even a lifeless blow job and sex, for 30-40 quid is better than nothing.
3) I only will complain if the service is bordering on criminal or real nasty.
However, like rape victims, it somehow feels like the victim here is at fault. Like I failed to read all signals and  invited this shit.
Punting is a high risk activity  and no one can say they are safe or secure, even those on AW. Although the risks involved are far less I do agree, they can be in another form?
The risks of being mugged and cheated by Rumenian on VS may be much higher. However OWO, Cim and kissing services on AW, which are much easier to obtain , increases the  the risks of getting an infection or even a virus( not corona) which can lead to higher chances of various cancers in the long run.
4) I plan on complaining directly to VS about this provider. Although I doubt if they will do much about it, may just bin it. Anyone done that before?
I am gonna take a break, this is getting too stressful. It's a shame, that for such an advanced and law abiding country, people offer services, which may be cheaper but definitely not at rock bottom prices and then  rip people off, with no consequences whatsoever.
 It goes on because we have accepted this and put up with it

[Don Keydick]

When you stated

Finally we  agreed for a meet up, two hours for 180. She then ranted about whether I thought she was stupid and asked for 250. At which I blocked her number. She then texted me from  another number 07308725252, saying she is sorry and asking me to see her.

The above was your reason to have moved on and never met this service provider

[Nitsp81]

When you stated

Finally we  agreed for a meet up, two hours for 180. She then ranted about whether I thought she was stupid and asked for 250. At which I blocked her number. She then texted me from  another number 07308725252, saying she is sorry and asking me to see her.

The above was your reason to have moved on and never met this service provider

In hindsight , yes and totally agree. However, at that time it seem d okay, balls over mind and blown by the lics. I thought, the maximum it would be a crap punt. However bailing out halfway and then swearing and spitting is not something routine, even by VS and Rumanian standards

[Littlefoot]

Thanks for all the posts and advise. Just to clarify a few things
1) I can't spend like 150-200 on AW. Within my limited budget, after tax and expenses, the only gals I can afford are on VS. It's either that, or an illegal user on Hagley or my hand. So VS and Rumenains are the least of all above evils.
2) The usual service on VS is crap but as mentioned, but even a lifeless blow job and sex, for 30-40 quid is better than nothing.
3) I only will complain if the service is bordering on criminal or real nasty.
However, like rape victims, it somehow feels like the victim here is at fault. Like I failed to read all signals and  invited this shit.
Punting is a high risk activity  and no one can say they are safe or secure, even those on AW. Although the risks involved are far less I do agree, they can be in another form?
The risks of being mugged and cheated by Rumenian on VS may be much higher. However OWO, Cim and kissing services on AW, which are much easier to obtain , increases the  the risks of getting an infection or even a virus( not corona) which can lead to higher chances of various cancers in the long run.
4) I plan on complaining directly to VS about this provider. Although I doubt if they will do much about it, may just bin it. Anyone done that before?
I am gonna take a break, this is getting too stressful. It's a shame, that for such an advanced and law abiding country, people offer services, which may be cheaper but definitely not at rock bottom prices and then  rip people off, with no consequences whatsoever.
 It goes on because we have accepted this and put up with it

Reading this review and your posts here, it reads like you’ve met the girl before?

Can’t understand your reluctance to use aw. You don’t have to access all services listed. Ie, you can partake in ow so no cim, you don’t have to kiss etc if that’s what you’re worried about. And the pricing thing, you arranged to pay £180 with this girl via vs? Hardly a cheap job. If you’re talking you’re unable to maintain aw rates long term, just punt slightly less than you would on vs. it’s gotta be a better option for you. You can then check all her reviews/feedback on here. More chance of having successful punts. It’s gotta be a better option than just accepting shite services off vs all the time.

Bit of advice here, no matter what a WG says to you never ever trust her fully. She is only interested in what you have in your pockets, no matter how convincing she appears, and you should only be interested in what’s in her knickers! I hope you can move on from this experience, and learn from it.   

[shed]

I don't expect any great service for 40-60£
But this is different, this is bordering on criminal with some sort of personality

You stated you eventually agreed on £100 for the hour, so what is the reference to £40 to £60 mean. Great advice by LF which you should take heed 

[pbrown355]

I am repeating what others are saying here. Loads of danger signs at each step. I don't know why you carried on communicating with her, never mind going to see her.
There are also a whole load of inconsistencies, the biggest being that it reads like you punted during the lockdown, even though you state otherwise at the beginning.
Your logic for not using AW doesn't stack up so I still don't understand why you don't.
It's a business deal. Don't ever treat it as anything else. Also, if it looks like it's turning to shit, as it has for all of us at some time, cut your losses, get out, and learn from it.
My last comment is that I don't think punting is for you. If you don't get your head round some of the other advice you've received here, then stop punting.
Good luck.

[vindici]

Thanks for all the posts and advise. Just to clarify a few things
1) I can't spend like 150-200 on AW. Within my limited budget, after tax and expenses, the only gals I can afford are on VS. It's either that, or an illegal user on Hagley or my hand. So VS and Rumenains are the least of all above evils.
2) The usual service on VS is crap but as mentioned, but even a lifeless blow job and sex, for 30-40 quid is better than nothing.

There are plenty of girls on AW in your price range, you just need to learn to use the search function 🤦‍♂️.

If you can spend £100 for an hour, you can afford £60 for 30mins, that will bring you lot's of results of well reviewed girls offering the services you have named.

Better to spend £60 for 30mins, have a great time and cum once, than spend £30 twice and get scammed both times.

[tesla]

1) I can't spend like 150-200 on AW. Within my limited budget, after tax and expenses, the only gals I can afford are on VS.

punt less, save more , more and better research = better punts

[seandana]

3) I only will complain if the service is bordering on criminal or real nasty.
However, like rape victims, it somehow feels like the victim here is at fault. Like I failed to read all signals and  invited this shit.
Punting is a high risk activity  and no one can say they are safe or secure, even those on AW. Although the risks involved are far less I do agree, they can be in another form?
The risks of being mugged and cheated by Rumenian on VS may be much higher. However OWO, Cim and kissing services on AW, which are much easier to obtain , increases the  the risks of getting an infection or even a virus( not corona) which can lead to higher chances of various cancers in the long run.

It sounds like you need a safer hobby buddy this game is not for the faint hearted

[RedditchJay]

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This happened before the lockdown. This girl seems either a criminal or has some personality issues.
Been in touch with her in the past and she claimed she had no money for food or electricity or phone card. Always asking me to transfer money into her account, which I declined.
Finally we  agreed for a meet up, two hours for 180. She then ranted about whether I thought she was stupid and asked for 250. At which I blocked her number. She then texted me from  another number 07308725252, saying she is sorry and asking me to see her. We agreed on 100 for one hour, come twice. I really regret this, dont know what made me proceed.
The place, Birchfield road, B19 near Cost cutter. There was a sign on the wall, something about knife amnesty, so you could fathom the rest. A complete shithole of a place The girl is the one in the picture but much more larger, may be size 16 and had got terrible cellulite. She seemed very miserable and spaced out. As I have been dry for two months, balls did the thinking and decided to proceed
The room is basic, a flat share, with another room having a baby wailing, think they share the kitchen. Paper work completed she lay down and could well be asleep. I tried my best, to work things but hardly got any response. Bj ,covered was basic and sex was in doggy and finished in 15 mins. This took me to the first 30 mins of the booking.
With another 30 mins left, she then receives a call and says something like help, my aunty is coming, you go and come back in ten minutes. As I didn't want to create a scene I dressed up and left.
Sat in the car outside and waited for 15 mins with no call or texts. Checked her whats app and noticed I have been blocked! I now realise that I have been cheated, so go up to the door and knock on it. She comes out wearing a  track suit and says ' Your time is finished' I told her you cheated me of my money and she bascially swears at me and spits in my direction.  Such criminals I should say
I am not an aggresive person and think its better to leave, rather than get involved in a slanging match with a whore.
I am frankly done with VS. Most gals are  Rumenians, who give a very bad service and this is the second time I have been cheated. I wonder how VS allows her profile to be active. The spitting part was very demoralising, dont care much for the money. As for revenge, karma will get her , I hope

Right - BASICS =  VIVASTREET is mainly full of Roms or Bait and Switch - use the reviews on here wisely and choose selectively, Adult Work good starting point  - Dont hand over money because your cock says so. You will continue to loose at this game unless you actually use this site for its purpose of decent, reliable punts   

[MajorPayne]

Thanks for all the posts and advise. Just to clarify a few things
1) I can't spend like 150-200 on AW. Within my limited budget, after tax and expenses, the only gals I can afford are on VS. It's either that, or an illegal user on Hagley or my hand. So VS and Rumenains are the least of all above evils.

However OWO, Cim and kissing services on AW, which are much easier to obtain , increases the  the risks of getting an infection or even a virus( not corona) which can lead to higher chances of various cancers in the long run.

Trying to offer some constructive advice, though I don't understand why you ignored all the warning signs . . .

- If you have never met a girl before consider only paying for 30 minutes. If its a bad punt you have lost less money
- Use the search function on Adultwork to find a SP within your price range, filtering on the services you want.  You don't even have to be a member to do this.
- Didn't understand your comment regarding OWO, CIM and kissing.  If you don't want these you simply don't have to.
- As an example I searched for SPs charging up to £50/hh and found between 40-50.  Of course I've no idea of their quality so . . .
- Once you have a short list of SPs, search here for reviews and then pick accordingly

[markmark13]

Genuine question, cos it's not been mentioned so far. If price is the issue, surely they have parlours in Birmingham?

Admittedly, I punt in Manchester, and mix parlours with AW ladies. But I'm sure you can get a good 30 minute service for around £60-70 incl OWO, can't you? Plus you get to see the girls first and, if you're stubborn enough (I am), can walk if you don't fancy them.

Sorry to be so obvious, just that I hadn't seen it mentioned.

[Littlefoot]

Genuine question, cos it's not been mentioned so far. If price is the issue, surely they have parlours in Birmingham?

Admittedly, I punt in Manchester, and mix parlours with AW ladies. But I'm sure you can get a good 30 minute service for around £60-70 incl OWO, can't you? Plus you get to see the girls first and, if you're stubborn enough (I am), can walk if you don't fancy them.

Sorry to be so obvious, just that I hadn't seen it mentioned.

Yes all very true, a lot of punters don’t like using parlors for whatever reason though. I assume a lot of that is fear of the unknown, if they have never punted in a brothel before? 

I think the op doesn’t do OWO? if so, might be better off using brothels like AYS and Kitty’s. Which I think would be £45 (used to be £35 until very recently) and £40 respectively for a basic 30 mins service. At the very least all there normally appear friendly and welcoming, as they do in every parlor I’ve visited in Brum. 

[petermisc]

110 views but not a word of solace
Just feel soo cheated but also helpless that I cannot do anything legal, to stop this crap from happening to someone else..

You have done the right and legal thing to stop it happening to others, by posting your review here, for which I commend you.  However, if repeatedly banging your head against a brick wall is hurting, then the obvious answer is to stop banging your head on a brick wall.  You are perfectly entitled to keep on, just don't expect much sympathy.

You say that you are paying £30-40 a time (although you paid far, far more than that on this last one) and getting only 1 in 10 decent punts.  There are two strategies I would suggest:
1) you are effectively paying £300-400 to get one decent punt.  As others have said, you would pay far less than that using AW
2) when you find your 1 in 10, stick with her if you can (and also post a review on here).

[MajorPayne]

Yes all very true, a lot of punters don’t like using parlors for whatever reason though. I assume a lot of that is fear of the unknown, if they have never punted in a brothel before? 

I think the op doesn’t do OWO? if so, might be better off using brothels like AYS and Kitty’s. Which I think would be £45 (used to be £35 until very recently) and £40 respectively for a basic 30 mins service. At the very least all there normally appear friendly and welcoming, as they do in every parlor I’ve visited in Brum. 

My very first punt was Soft Touch Bodyworks in Northampton (£60/30 minutes) precisely for the reason that I thought a parlour safer than an independent.   Looked at the web site and the services the ladies were offering, picked one and jumped in.  In all my years of punting since I've only been there twice preferring "The Hot Box" and "Massage Northampton" venues.   

Once I got more knowledgeable and confident I started using independents but always check this forum to help minimise risk of a bad punt.

[Littlefoot]

My very first punt was Soft Touch Bodyworks in Northampton (£60/30 minutes) precisely for the reason that I thought a parlour safer than an independent.   Looked at the web site and the services the ladies were offering, picked one and jumped in.  In all my years of punting since I've only been there twice preferring "The Hot Box" and "Massage Northampton" venues.   

Once I got more knowledgeable and confident I started using independents but always check this forum to help minimise risk of a bad punt.

In my experience brothel punting is similar to punting indies, where you experience negative and positive punts. As you alluded to, research on here is the key to more positive times. Example being, I think every time I’ve done my due diligence on here re parlor girls and followed it up by meeting a well reviewed girl I’ve always had a positive time. Whereas there have been a few occasions where I’ve done a toftt brothel punt and they didn’t turn out well at all.

I think my favorite brothel punt to date, taking the price into consideration, (with the assistance of a trusted member off here) was at erotic studio:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=132884.0

Another parlor the op might take into consideration? Haven’t been for a while. Used to be £50 for 30 mins OW or £60 OWO. (Don’t know if those rates have changed recently?) You get a lot more services for your money here compared to AYS and kitty’s. 

[Nitsp81]

Her profile, besides fake pics, now reads as
"I am Mira am sweet, and the most important for me is to make my costumers happy, remember me as a nice and lovely person'
By cheating, swearing and spitting on my 'costumers'

[tesla]

Her profile, besides fake pics, now reads as
"I am Mira am sweet, and the most important for me is to make my costumers happy, remember me as a nice and lovely person'
By cheating, swearing and spitting on my 'costumers'

After all that's been said on this thread the question is ....."Why are you still looking at her profile?"

[MajorPayne]

After all that's been said on this thread the question is ....."Why are you still looking at her profile?"

Metaphorically speaking, maybe it's self-flagellation?