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Offline mrfishyfoo

I had a read of the site and found it very interesting. Not scary.
It’s useful to hear thoughts from the other side of the fence. Many of them were saying that this break made them realise how much money they were wasting and that they would be working less and being less extravagant and careless with their earnings seemed quite sensible to me.
They were thinking through the notion of how many punters would have lost jobs/income etc while there would be a pent up desire for many.
Putting up prices by £10 was one girl’s attitude.

But the reality of market forces will also have an effect and no one really knows how that will play out yet.  There was a lot of chatter about new girls turning to the business.

Don’t see what was scary about it all.

The thought of fucking a lass that's so paranoid that she won't kiss me or suck my cock properly is IMHO scary.

I don't punt to fuck lifeless mask wearing corpses.  :hi: :hi:

Offline mrfishyfoo

I can see no kissing and owo
they will prob wear mask so kissing is off the menu, depends what area they are in. may also get a new influx of high priced girls that may give good service to establish themselves.


I had a look at some webcamming free previews. my oh my were the girls hot. nice bodies,  nice face. played them a bit. chatted to a few in free view, got one to lift her thong off saying I was gonna top up account and join, then left.
they can make lots on camming

Easily as much as getting fucked and in some cases more.


Offline winkywanky

"The campaigning group says the majority of sex workers are also full-time carers."

Really?

I'm not surprised that quite a few would be, but the majority?


Online Moby Dick

If they are registered with HMRC they can claim.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I was thinking the same.
Pay tax / NI and “we” will pay.
All in it together unless you avoid taxes.

Offline Stapler

Will the WG's who are from, say Poland etc, come back, given the hassle they will get after the government announced new plans to quarantine people who are flying in from abroad for 14 days.
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Offline Doc Holliday

Will the WG's who are from, say Poland etc, come back, given the hassle they will get after the government announced new plans to quarantine people who are flying in from abroad for 14 days.

Under current proposals I understand all they will need to do is give an address they will be staying at and declare they will isolate there for two weeks.


Offline Hobbit

"The campaigning group says the majority of sex workers are also full-time carers."

Really?

I'm not surprised that quite a few would be, but the majority?

I doubt that. I've never met a PSE Carer.  :D

Offline Home Alone

I doubt that. I've never met a PSE Carer.  :D

I don't think I could cope with one of them; I'd settle for a nice, naturally busty, MILFy Carer, preferably with fully-fashioned black stockings and suspenders! :P
« Last Edit: April 27, 2020, 05:05:33 pm by Home Alone »

Offline wombat42

Can't see the Chancellor of the Exchequer coming up with anything like that for any SP who doesn't file a tax return!🤔

Quite a few SPs surely will be registered as self-employed beauticians or masseuse and pay tax - thus getting a self-employed government hand out. Whatever they call themselves and pay tax they would qualify as self-employed and would qualify for government scheme.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2020, 05:44:17 pm by wombat42 »

Offline wombat42

Also intrinsically being a WG is not illegal so no reason why they could not claim on government self-employment relief scheme assuming they pay tax.

Online iq129

I had a read of the site and found it very interesting. Not scary.
It’s useful to hear thoughts from the other side of the fence. Many of them were saying that this break made them realise how much money they were wasting and that they would be working less and being less extravagant and careless with their earnings seemed quite sensible to me.
They were thinking through the notion of how many punters would have lost jobs/income etc while there would be a pent up desire for many.
Putting up prices by £10 was one girl’s attitude.

But the reality of market forces will also have an effect and no one really knows how that will play out yet.  There was a lot of chatter about new girls turning to the business.

Don’t see what was scary about it all.

I had a read through that thread on the SAAFE forum, and I agree with most of what you have said. There is nothing scary. On the contrary, I got the impression that things are scary for them and not us. I also did notice a few arrogant ladies who consider themselves as some beauty queens and the only women on Earth, and so they intend to increase their prices by a lot. One lady was vocal in encouraging others to increase their prices.

There are some escorts who believe we punters are all aching to punt and because of the lockdown, we have saved money on other types of entertainment and luxuries and have therefore accumulated piles of wealth reserves to blow on escorts when all this is over. In fact, one lady said some punter was so desperate that he offered her twice her rate and she was tempted to say yes, despite the lockdown. I am not one of those that will be blackmailed into higher prices. The prices went through the roof as it was. I am hopeful that for every idiot who is willing to pay more there will be at least twice as many who will not give in to such blackmail.

I also read other threads on SAAFE and I was saddened to learn how much most of the working girls hate us punters from the inside. They just care about money.

From what I gathered through that forum was that for many ladies, money they earned from escorting was their only source of income, and no doubt that for most of these ladies such money was their main source of income. They are more desperate for business than we are for punts. That’s the view I got.

I get horny. I watch a Pornhub movie, have a wank and I save £150 each time. OK, nothing beats the real thing, but there is a limit to it. I shall not surrender to blackmail via rising prices. I save money by wanking, and it doesn’t kill me, but each time an escort loses a punter it hurts her much more. For every punt less in this business, punters save money and escorts lose a portion of their livelihood. They have much more to lose than us. If punters can have an attitude like mine and resist giving in to further price rises, then punting will be a buyer’s market and it is going to be the escorts that will have much more to lose than us.

The escorts have had their day by constantly increasing their prices over the last two years. They should now accept the fact that it is now our turn.

Offline LLPunting

I had a read through that thread on the SAAFE forum, and I agree with most of what you have said. There is nothing scary. On the contrary, I got the impression that things are scary for them and not us. I also did notice a few arrogant ladies who consider themselves as some beauty queens and the only women on Earth, and so they intend to increase their prices by a lot. One lady was vocal in encouraging others to increase their prices.

There are some escorts who believe we punters are all aching to punt and because of the lockdown, we have saved money on other types of entertainment and luxuries and have therefore accumulated piles of wealth reserves to blow on escorts when all this is over. In fact, one lady said some punter was so desperate that he offered her twice her rate and she was tempted to say yes, despite the lockdown. I am not one of those that will be blackmailed into higher prices. The prices went through the roof as it was. I am hopeful that for every idiot who is willing to pay more there will be at least twice as many who will not give in to such blackmail.

I also read other threads on SAAFE and I was saddened to learn how much most of the working girls hate us punters from the inside. They just care about money.

From what I gathered through that forum was that for many ladies, money they earned from escorting was their only source of income, and no doubt that for most of these ladies such money was their main source of income. They are more desperate for business than we are for punts. That’s the view I got.

I get horny. I watch a Pornhub movie, have a wank and I save £150 each time. OK, nothing beats the real thing, but there is a limit to it. I shall not surrender to blackmail via rising prices. I save money by wanking, and it doesn’t kill me, but each time an escort loses a punter it hurts her much more. For every punt less in this business, punters save money and escorts lose a portion of their livelihood. They have much more to lose than us. If punters can have an attitude like mine and resist giving in to further price rises, then punting will be a buyer’s market and it is going to be the escorts that will have much more to lose than us.

The escorts have had their day by constantly increasing their prices over the last two years. They should now accept the fact that it is now our turn.

Just as contributors to UKP don't fully reflect the punting population SAAFE contributors do not represent the rank and file of WGs.
After 2+ months away from pussy I'm in no rush to waste my hard saved cash on some jumped up trollops imagining they're God's Gift to all us incels.  I will take my time (the all of an extra few hours to determine which reliable or promising talents are plying a sensible trade and spend my money with them.  Don't forget there is NOTHING extra special in a good way about these girls after lockdown, they are a greater risk of CoVID infection than the majority of your civvie close contacts as well as a lifestyle and sexual health risk.  They should be paying us to risk having sex with them just as much as us paying them.

Online iq129

Just as contributors to UKP don't fully reflect the punting population SAAFE contributors do not represent the rank and file of WGs.
After 2+ months away from pussy I'm in no rush to waste my hard saved cash on some jumped up trollops imagining they're God's Gift to all us incels.  I will take my time (the all of an extra few hours to determine which reliable or promising talents are plying a sensible trade and spend my money with them.  Don't forget there is NOTHING extra special in a good way about these girls after lockdown, they are a greater risk of CoVID infection than the majority of your civvie close contacts as well as a lifestyle and sexual health risk.  They should be paying us to risk having sex with them just as much as us paying them.

Excellent reply.

Offline tobyk1

Haha, I like that analogy of the ‘wank’, iq129. Never thought of it in such a powerful way. Such a quick and simple act can debilitate a WGs livelihood. Not to take meals out of their families mouths, but maybe they don’t need a spare pair of heels or more designer handbags. There’s another thread, ‘any discounts for the risk takers’ where I, LLP and others have analysed the pricing conundrum.

Saafe is an interesting benchmark, but not totally representative, since they seem to be almost all English and based all over this economically varied nation. Personally I very rarely book English SPs, almost never.
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Offline Doc Holliday

Just as contributors to UKP don't fully reflect the punting population SAAFE contributors do not represent the rank and file of WGs.


That is a very important point which both sides of the fence frequently lose sight of.

Offline Home Alone


Saafe is an interesting benchmark, but not totally representative, since they seem to be almost all English and based all over this economically varied nation. Personally I very rarely book English SPs, almost never.

But for those of us who book nothing but British SPs, Saafe can give us a glimpse into the mind-set of those of them who post there.

A thought's just entered my mind as I was typing that sentence: would any of the SPs who post on here care to tell us - honestly - if they're contributing members of both forums?🤔

Offline LLPunting

But for those of us who book nothing but British SPs, Saafe can give us a glimpse into the mind-set of those of them who post there.

A thought's just entered my mind as I was typing that sentence: would any of the SPs who post on here care to tell us - honestly - if they're contributing members of both forums?🤔

That's an insight into specific SPs then not a stereotype or norm; just extra intel to shape your enquiries to SPs you've not met before.

The canny ladies post here in an affable way.  Those who fess up to their SAAFE identities and prove to be consistent will likely be the genuine ladies you can "trust" in a booking.  Those who show inconsistent personalities across the sites are unlikely to reveal themselves.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2020, 03:21:42 pm by LLPunting »

Offline funfungoodguy

Excellent reply.
Which suggests again my earlier post/s about:
"But in 'Normal times' everybody knows the risks that go along with the paid sex market,  what I think is clear now though, is that those who are still working (and their clients) are being flushed out as more careless about theirs and others' health than those who have decided to step back from it.  The druggies and financially compromised won't account for all those still working who could certainly take a break, but they think they are smart enough (or something) to ignore the warnings, having a greater lust for money and their clients a greater lust for sex, than the rest who are heeding the warnings. As several have said; I hope an essential worker isn't behind them in the queue for a hospital bed"
Fact is there are WG's still offering their services, we see the Govt. death figures daily, Anyway the point is, getting onto bed with a stranger who does who knows what with who knows who when you are not there is obviously an extremely silly idea just at the moment, however well you think you know the WG (if still working then says a lot about her attitude to health for her and others doesn't it?).  Really do try to abstain gentlemen.
 

Offline extraa

The way I look at it is I think it'll probably bring even more sex workers to the scene. Especially British students (the type I go for being of the younger generation) looking to make a quick buck. Or at least I hope that will be the case. I see most profiles saying they aren't taking booking currently but can't wait to come back anyway so I'm not too concerned.

I also wouldn't mind trying my luck with the civie market because I can imagine once the pubs and clubs re-open there's going to be a lot of depraved horny girls out there. That first week of the clubs re-opening is going to be interesting  :lol:

Offline simpleton69

Just as contributors to UKP don't fully reflect the punting population SAAFE contributors do not represent the rank and file of WGs.
After 2+ months away from pussy I'm in no rush to waste my hard saved cash on some jumped up trollops imagining they're God's Gift to all us incels.  I will take my time (the all of an extra few hours to determine which reliable or promising talents are plying a sensible trade and spend my money with them.  Don't forget there is NOTHING extra special in a good way about these girls after lockdown, they are a greater risk of CoVID infection than the majority of your civvie close contacts as well as a lifestyle and sexual health risk.  They should be paying us to risk having sex with them just as much as us paying them.

Some of the ladies comments are unberleaverable

Jabebear who it seems has continued to work during lock down posted "Not concerned with Coronavirus"

« Last Edit: May 05, 2020, 04:40:27 pm by simpleton69 »

Offline Home Alone

Some of the ladies comments are unberleaverable

Jabebear
who it seems has continued to work during lock down posted "Not concerned with Coronavirus"

To quote A. A. Milne, she's obviously "a bear of very little brain." :rolleyes:

Offline Jindybandy

Wonder what effect that government tracking app could have on punting;

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Would WGs find it a useful tool themselves by asking clients to show the app at start of a booking?

Would us punters want a tracking app that if pinged could mean having to explain who you’ve been in contact with (although I guess it’s anonymous so could just say ‘must have been someone I passed in the shops’ or such)

Online iq129

No chance of the oldest profession being finished by a virus.

Agreed. It has survived the plague and two world wars, and has continued and grown.

Offline joe diddley

Agreed. It has survived the plague and two world wars, and has continued and grown.

I agree that it will continue. Not in any doubt about that. But it may be driven underground by laws requiring services of all kinds (shopping, restaurants, work places, etc.) to be mediated by social distancing which will effectively render prostitution illegal or semi-legal at best; at least certainly for a good while until human rights groups or whoever are successful in getting some legal clarification which of course may never happen. Without being over-dramatic, this could spell the end for the foreseeable future of our hobby as a legal activity. Of course this illegality (if I am right and I hope I'm not) will make it more dangerous for those girls who do resume work and much worse for us punters who will lack the transparency of punting provided by whatever legality prostitution has had up to now. Woe, woe and thrice woe!
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 09:41:04 am by joe diddley »

Offline xyfek

I agree that it will continue. Not in any doubt about that. But it may be driven underground by laws requiring services of all kinds (shopping, restaurants, work places, etc.) to be mediated by social distancing which will effectively render prostitution illegal or semi-legal at best; at least certainly for a good while until human rights groups or whoever are successful in getting some legal clarification which of course may never happen. Without being over-dramatic, this could spell the end for the foreseeable future of our hobby as a legal activity. Of course this illegality (if I am right and I hope I'm not) will make it more dangerous for those girls who do resume work and much worse for us punters who will lack the transparency of punting provided by whatever legality prostitution has had up to now. Woe, woe and thrice woe!

That's impossible to police, no way it will be like that. I'm sure some punters will think twice before seeing a girl post-lockdown due to the risk of catching the virus. But for many as soon as the risk is deemed acceptable it will be business as usual, and I don't think any potential social distancing advice will make any difference.

Offline Jonestown

The suggestion in the last few days is that gyms will be taken off the restricted list in October, if thats true it will be interesting to see if massage places and spas are also taken off, although I somehow doubt they will be.

Offline bossanova

You'll be able to get a massage soon enough!

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Offline Crackpot11

Of course escorts will be back and probably by the end of the month once people can meet in small groups and go outside more than once a day, whoring can start again. I for one will stick to regulars and I reckon WG’s will do the same until lockdown completely over in October.

Offline Omerta101

The whole country is terrified of this disease so can't see too many new girls that have never whored themselves before taking up the job, I would imagine alot of the EE's will fuck off too Germany as they have dealt with the whole pandemic far better than us, we're now the worst country in Europe for deaths, what if all this eventually leads to a paperless money society in the next year or two and all payments are digital, that's gonna stop alot of married punters dead in their tracks as the other halves will be able to track every penny spent, this  pandemic changes everything in the sex industry, any pro$$ie with any bit of sense will pack in the whoring and move over to only fans ect that's where all the money is now anway
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Offline Hobbit

The whole country is terrified of this disease so can't see too many new girls that have never whored themselves before taking up the job, I would imagine alot of the EE's will fuck off too Germany as they have dealt with the whole pandemic far better than us, we're now the worst country in Europe for deaths, what if all this eventually leads to a paperless money society in the next year or two and all payments are digital, that's gonna stop alot of married punters dead in their tracks as the other halves will be able to track every penny spent, this  pandemic changes everything in the sex industry, any pro$$ie with any bit of sense will pack in the whoring and move over to only fans ect that's where all the money is now anway

I completely disagree with you. First of all, not everyone is terrified of this disease as that is a huge assumption that you are making. There are many people that are still going out and now are trying to get back to some sort of normality. Things will be different for some time but hookers will still be around and will come back as per normal. Selling sex has been around for centuries and will continue. By the way, you seem to know a lot for someone that has written zero reviews. Maybe you should write some before talking nonsense.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 01:09:39 pm by Hobbit »

Offline Doc Holliday

I for one will stick to regulars and I reckon WG’s will do the same until lockdown completely over in October.

The concept that both parties are at less risk by seeing regulars keeps cropping up.

How does that reduce the risk?

Offline Omerta101

I completely disagree with you. First of all, not everyone is terrified of this disease as that is a huge assumption that you are making. There are many people that are still going out and now are trying to get back to some sort of normality. Things will be different for some time but hookers will still be around and will come back as per normal. Selling sex has been around for centuries and will continue. By the way, you seem to know a lot for someone that has written zero reviews. Maybe you should write some before talking nonsense.

Your entitled to your opinion as I am mine , but to claim it's nonsense is bollocks, for starters it's been well documented we have been heading towards a paperless money society for the last few years and this pandemic will only accelerate us towards it, take a look around you the next time your in a supermarket, if anyone dares pay with money people react as if you've just took a shit in your own hand and tried to smear it on someone
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Offline tesla

Your entitled to your opinion as I am mine , but to claim it's nonsense is bollocks, for starters it's been well documented we have been heading towards a paperless money society for the last few years and this pandemic will only accelerate us towards it, take a look around you the next time your in a supermarket, if anyone dares pay with money people react as if you've just took a shit in your own hand and tried to smear it on someone

I have not seen any adverse reactions to anybody paying with cash, also to pick up on an earlier point about will SP's start working again, some have not stopped

Offline Omerta101

I have not seen any adverse reactions to anybody paying with cash, also to pick up on an earlier point about will SP's start working again, some have not stopped

Well that just shows how much they couldn't give a shit about their own health, their punters health and the NHS
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Offline Hobbit

Your entitled to your opinion as I am mine , but to claim it's nonsense is bollocks, for starters it's been well documented we have been heading towards a paperless money society for the last few years and this pandemic will only accelerate us towards it, take a look around you the next time your in a supermarket, if anyone dares pay with money people react as if you've just took a shit in your own hand and tried to smear it on someone

No. What nonsense is that you completely ignored my comment about writing no reviews and leaching of this forum. There are no indications of paperless money ever ending, as there are no indications of you writing any reviews. :D

Offline Omerta101

No. What nonsense is that you completely ignored my comment about writing no reviews and leaching of this forum. There are no indications of paperless money ever ending, as there are no indications of you writing any reviews. :D

Is that all you've got?  ;)
I've been perfectly honest and open about why I don't have any reviews yet? If you don't think we're heading towards digital money only your head must zip up at the back  :dash: :D
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Offline Hobbit

Is that all you've got?  ;)
I've been perfectly honest and open about why I don't have any reviews yet? If you don't think we're heading towards digital money only your head must zip up at the back  :dash: :D

I've got plenty son, but I just don't like speaking to kids who are currently off school whilst pretending they are punters. So I suggest you go back to your mum and do your homework and let the grown-ups write the reviews on UKP. :D :lol:

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The whole country is terrified of this disease so can't see too many new girls that have never whored themselves before taking up the job, I would imagine alot of the EE's will fuck off too Germany as they have dealt with the whole pandemic far better than us, we're now the worst country in Europe for deaths, what if all this eventually leads to a paperless money society in the next year or two and all payments are digital, that's gonna stop alot of married punters dead in their tracks as the other halves will be able to track every penny spent, this  pandemic changes everything in the sex industry, any pro$$ie with any bit of sense will pack in the whoring and move over to only fans ect that's where all the money is now anway
I have to say you do post some rubbish on here, you are constantly making unfounded claims, I can only speak for my own area but as of 15th April well over 100 house parties had been shut down in North Tyneside.  There was an average of 10 people at each so that makes over 500 people who are not 'terrified'.

Cashless society, more rubbish, do you really think they would go to the expense of designing and producing longer lasting notes if the intention was to go cashless. I have also paid in cash at various shops without any problem.

Whilst this current pandemic is serious and will undoubtedly change lives, prostitution has been around since time immemorial, it has survived past pandemics, including aids, it will survive this. Not everyone would be inclined to partake in 'online only' activities.

You also seem to have a, shall we say, unusual attitude to prostitution to be posting on a punters forum.

Offline Omerta101

I've got plenty son, but I just don't like speaking to kids who are currently off school whilst pretending they are punters. So I suggest you go back to your mum and do your homework and let the grown-ups write the reviews on UKP. :D :lol:

Fuck me you ever thought about going into stand up comedy with banter like that? Not very good at debating are we "son"  :sarcastic:
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Offline Hobbit

Fuck me you ever thought about going into stand up comedy with banter like that? Not very good at debating are we "son"  :sarcastic:

It's not a debate. Like I said I don't speak to Twats who know nothing about the world of prostitution but yet walk around like they have shagged hundreds of girls. Come back once you have reached puberty.  :D

Offline winkywanky

The concept that both parties are at less risk by seeing regulars keeps cropping up.

How does that reduce the risk?



It doesn't, it's pretty well meaningless.

I guess the only thing would be if you knew your regular was 'only seeing  five blokes a week' compared with some girl you didn't know, possibly doing back to back bookings most days.

But it's still Russian roulette, and do you really know how many guys your 'own special regular girl' is seeing?  :unknown:

Offline ulstersubbie

No. What nonsense is that you completely ignored my comment about writing no reviews and leaching of this forum. There are no indications of paperless money ever ending, as there are no indications of you writing any reviews. :D

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Offline ulstersubbie



Whilst this current pandemic is serious and will undoubtedly change lives, prostitution has been around since time immemorial, it has survived past pandemics, including aids, it will survive this. Not everyone would be inclined to partake in 'online only' activities.




That goes for a lot of subs like me, and dommes as well. Nothing beats a real life session, you can't replicate that online, it's just a poor substitute.

Offline Hobbit


It doesn't, it's pretty well meaningless.

I guess the only thing would be if you knew your regular was 'only seeing  five blokes a week' compared with some girl you didn't know, possibly doing back to back bookings most days.

But it's still Russian roulette, and do you really know how many guys your 'own special regular girl' is seeing?  :unknown:

Exactly. It's just a risk that each punter will need to decide whether or not to take. But what I do know from experience is that dick always wins. :D

Offline LLPunting

It's not a debate. Like I said I don't speak to Twats who know nothing about the world of prostitution but yet walk around like they have shagged hundreds of girls. Come back once you have reached puberty.  :D

Alas puberty will only likely affect how much of a wanker "he" is.

Offline Hobbit

Alas puberty will only likely affect how much of a wanker "he" is.

 :D

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Fuck me you ever thought about going into stand up comedy with banter like that? Not very good at debating are we "son"  :sarcastic:
I see you've decided to retire from the 'debate' once valid points were put to you. Just goes to show eh.   :unknown:

Offline Omerta101

It's not a debate. Like I said I don't speak to Twats who know nothing about the world of prostitution but yet walk around like they have shagged hundreds of girls. Come back once you have reached puberty.  :D

Your patter is howling  :lol: all you can do is throw out shitty bullshit insults if someone airs a different opinion than you  :sarcastic: you sound like a nazi  :thumbsup:
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