Charging to much.

[seeker]

@silvercity .
Different punters like different things
The girl with the pink hair is not my cup of tea but ,
To some other punter she may be right up his street
Good looks is in the eyes of the beholder ,
I'd rather shag an average looking girl who fucks enthusiastically
Than a model who's a sack of potatoes.
You should price yourself at what you think YOUR worth in a wg sense ,
And if your phone gets Dusty you know ,for whatever reason
The punter doesn't see VFM.
After all in a services industry  ,you have to keep your customers happy as well as your self
It's not all about you.

[Silvercity]

@silvercity .
Different punters like different things
The girl with the pink hair is not my cup of tea but ,
To some other punter she may be right up his street
Good looks is in the eyes of the beholder ,
I'd rather shag an average looking girl who fucks enthusiastically
Than a model who's a sack of potatoes.
You should price yourself at what you think YOUR worth in a wg sense ,
And if your phone gets Dusty you know ,for whatever reason
The punter doesn't see VFM.
After all in a services industry  ,you have to keep your customers happy as well as your self
It's not all about you.

whilst i agree with some of your points, i dont get the hypocrisy, when i get chastised for allegedly being unkind, when by same token guys on this site consistently use words to describe providers looks as munter, lard arse, ugly cunt etc, too many nasty words to name without a second thought that, oh but someone else might like her and she offers xyz services. I haven't used any of those words, but oh my if an escort dares to say something about looks, she's shallow, but not the  guys, of course, never the guys, never on this site? Really, maybe think what culture of language you have on here and what example you're guys showing to others before chasitising me and calling me bigoted and shallow. A look in a mirror perhaps? Or maybe practice just what you preach.  All those that sre so quick to chastise me for being unkind, quite often are no better than me, and quite often a lot worse with their choice of words when describing looks or services. Though they get a pat on a back and hi five from other punters. If that's not double standards and hypocrisy, i dont know what is then. Thanks 

[Matrix]

whilst i agree with some of your points, i dont get the hypocrisy, when i get chastised for allegedly being unkind, when by same token guys on this site consistently use words to describe providers looks as munter, lard arse, ugly cunt etc, too many nasty words to name without a second thought that, oh but someone else might like her and she offers xyz services. I haven't used any of those words, but oh my if an escort dares to say something about looks, she's shallow, but not the  guys, of course, never the guys, never on this site? Really, maybe think what culture of language you have on here and what example you're guys showing to others before chasitising me and calling me bigoted and shallow. A look in a mirror perhaps? Or maybe practice just what you preach.  All those that sre so quick to chastise me for being unkind, quite often are no better than me, and quite often a lot worse with their choice of words when describing looks or services. Though they get a pat on a back and hi five from other punters. If that's not double standards and hypocrisy, i dont know what is then. Thanks 

Rather rich considering you insinuate that someone you disagree with is a Nazi. 

As for this forum. If it's not to your liking, feel free to leave.

[Silvercity]

I didn't say i don't like it, still doesn't answer hypocrisy matter. I understand its not not allowed it's a review site, negative experiences, negative reviews, fair play, but the words of choice that are used quite often is what you'd never have balls to say face to face. Quite often these words are used to chip in to conversation about someone elses review, despite person chipping  in never having met the provider that those words are addressed to. Yet you high five each other for use of them, then have audacity to call me shallow or bigoted. Yeah, right.. Good luck with that one

[Cactus]

whilst i agree with some of your points, i dont get the hypocrisy, when i get chastised for allegedly being unkind, when by same token guys on this site consistently use words to describe providers looks as munter, lard arse, ugly cunt etc, too many nasty words to name without a second thought that, oh but someone else might like her and she offers xyz services. I haven't used any of those words, but oh my if an escort dares to say something about looks, she's shallow, but not the  guys, of course, never the guys, never on this site? Really, maybe think what culture of language you have on here and what example you're guys showing to others before chasitising me and calling me bigoted and shallow. A look in a mirror perhaps? Or maybe practice just what you preach.  All those that sre so quick to chastise me for being unkind, quite often are no better than me, and quite often a lot worse with their choice of words when describing looks or services. Though they get a pat on a back and hi five from other punters. If that's not double standards and hypocrisy, i dont know what is then. Thanks 

Book her, then you can slag off her looks if you don’t feel her profile is a true reflection.

You’re not seeking a service, you’re slagging off a competitor who you deemed worse looking than yourself and therefor you should be more expensive.

We are service seekers therefore we’re within our rights to comment as we see fit if we feel we have been  mid-sold.

The two reasons for commenting on looks are entirely different.

[Silvercity]

So it's the money that gives you right to be unkind and patronise me that I've been unkind. The money that makes you better somehow and justifies it. If you say so, dear, if you say so.. You live and learn.

[The Man With No Name]

Amongst the the most pathetic things I've ever read.

No wonder you got the fuck out of Latvia.  Interesting that you mention "Theresa May's hostile environment", whatever the fuck that is, (discovery of her smelly fanny in a duo booking perhaps?) and not the incredibly Jewish friendly Labour party.   

I don't suppose you paid much attention to history and the fact that if it wasn't for us, both Europe, the Jewish and the rest of the world would be in rather worse shape.  Thankfully, thanks to our contribution and way of life, you can pretty much wear whatever you like on your sleeve, apart from a swastika.  You're also free to sell your arse too. 

Thoroughly agree.

But it's also the single biggest reason as to why the UK is in the mess it finds itself - the non-extreme, parochial, but still very evident flag-waving British nationalism - utterly unable to accept its diminished role in the world as an advanced, service-based, medium-sized economy, rightly no longer deserving of a place at the global power table. But whether it's us America or France, there seems to be a theme there with winning the deadliest conflict in history. And despite universal acceptance that all empires come and thankfully go, you still get your utterly deluded fuckwits who are convinced "Britannia will rule the waves again!" Tragic really, to think how much better we could've - and should've - had it.

The likes of Germany and Japan, however... Well, what was that old quote about losing the war, but winning the peace? Speaking of themes, there also must be a certain commonality in rebuilding your country from the ashes of fascist annihilation, but still keeping a certain aspect of efficiency and respect - coupled with new values of tolerance and cooperation - that encourages a massive degree of social and economic success. Obviously over-generalising here, but there's clearly something in it.

[Happyjose]

You live snd learn.

Unfortunately, you don’t

You have been banned before, and you’re well on the way to the same again

Have a look at the top of the page, see how many times this thread has been viewed. Think about how many punters, how many potential paying customers are witnessing your unreasonable rants on here

It’s up to you, but it’s hard to fathom why you’re so keen to wreck your own business

[Silvercity]

Unfortunately, you don’t

You have been banned before, and you’re well on the way to the same again

Have a look at the top of the page, see how many times this thread has been viewed. Think about how many punters, how many potential paying customers are witnessing your unreasonable rants on here

It’s up to you, but it’s hard to fathom why you’re so keen to wreck your own business

oh i do learn hun, I've learnt how to be unkind and horrible, some good teachers here,plenty of them, including yourself. But all the sudden you're all saints and I'm a sinner 

[Happyjose]

oh i do learn hun, I've learnt how to be unkind and horrible, some good teachers here,plenty of them, including yourself. But all the sudden you're all saints and I'm a sinner

Your very first post on this thread was unkind and horrible to one of your fellow WG’s.

Your ‘poor me’ angle won’t work on here

Ok here's my two pence, just had a look at Aberdeen local escorts page and if someone looking like Lydia - h, is charging same rate as me for half  hour, which is 80quid,then i better put my prices up  picture of Lydia

[Silvercity]

Your very first post on this thread was unkind and horrible to one of your fellow WG’s.

Your ‘poor me’ angle won’t work on here

it would take me a year to quote every post where you've been unkind. Pot, kettle, black..

[Happyjose]

it would take me a year to quote every post where you've been unkind. Pot, kettle, black..

I see your availability tab indicates you’re working today

How’s that working out? Yesterday seemed pretty quiet 

[Cactus]

So it's the money that gives you right to be unkind and patronise me that I've been unkind. The money that makes you better somehow and justifies it. If you say so, dear, if you say so.. You live and learn.

You can be as unkind as you like. I’m trying to make a point, but you’re just playing the victim card now in saying that you’ve been patronised. If you could also point out where I’ve been unkind it would be appreciated? I’ve tried to be as measured as possible.

[Silvercity]

I see your availability tab indicates you’re working today

How’s that working out? Yesterday seemed pretty quiet 

you can get back to work yourself and all

[Clattypats]

oh i do learn hun, I've learnt how to be unkind and horrible, some good teachers here,plenty of them, including yourself. But all the sudden you're all saints and I'm a sinner

@Cactus pretty much summed it up... You are a service provider and we are Service seekers...Apart from other things this site has a review section, which we as paying customers are entitled to use to convey how a booking has went, and what said WG is like in that booking...

It may not be to your liking how some of it is portrayed ie. How looks, service etc are described, but its about letting fellow members know (everyone will have different styles or wording as to how they do this) , then they can make an informed choice whether they book or not...

As bad as it all may seem to you, I'm pretty sure some WGs do well off the back of a good review on here (even though you may not admit to it yourself) and even some may take the Negatives and turn it into a Positive with regards to their service, as one particular WG has commented on in the past, that this is what she did...

If you don't think another WG is in the same bracket as you lookswise or shouldn't be in the same bracket as you pricewise then that's your problem, up your prices and see how that works out for you... Since you seem to be after a "higher standard" of clientele than you obviously deem to be on here, maybe it will suit you better... No great loss as far as I'm concerned... 

[Silvercity]

You can be as unkind as you like. I’m trying to make a point, but you’re just playing the victim card now in saying that you’ve been patronised. If you could also point out where I’ve been unkind it would be appreciated? I’ve tried to be as measured as possible.

It wasn't aimed at you.

[Cactus]

It wasn't aimed at you.

Apologies.

[seeker]

whilst i agree with some of your points, i dont get the hypocrisy, when i get chastised for allegedly being unkind, when by same token guys on this site consistently use words to describe providers looks as munter, lard arse, ugly cunt etc, too many nasty words to name without a second thought that, oh but someone else might like her and she offers xyz services. I haven't used any of those words, but oh my if an escort dares to say something about looks, she's shallow, but not the  guys, of course, never the guys, never on this site? Really, maybe think what culture of language you have on here and what example you're guys showing to others before chasitising me and calling me bigoted and shallow. A look in a mirror perhaps? Or maybe practice just what you preach.  All those that sre so quick to chastise me for being unkind, quite often are no better than me, and quite often a lot worse with their choice of words when describing looks or services. Though they get a pat on a back and hi five from other punters. If that's not double standards and hypocrisy, i dont know what is then. Thanks 

Well if you dont like the vibe and atmos of ukp
You know what to do 
Your a troll .
You've hi jacked this thread and have been spouting utter shite ,
Away and go to not allowed ,safe,or uke,  take your pick
You wont be missed ,I'm surprised your still here

[DaVINCI]

Well if you dont like the vibe and atmos of ukp
You know what to do 
Your a troll .
You've hi jacked this thread and have been spouting utter shite ,
Away and go to not allowed ,safe,or uke,  take your pick
You wont be missed ,I'm surprised your still here

Don't worry about that, I had a debate previously with the alleged SP  and I gave up as she always wants the last word, just no point in debating there   

[auldie63]

So it's the money that gives you right to be unkind and patronise me that I've been unkind. The money that makes you better somehow and justifies it. If you say so, dear, if you say so.. You live and learn.

Of course It's the money that gives us the right to complain. If I buy a fish supper, chinese, indian meal and it is shite, I will let my friends and acquantances know this and where I bought it to save them wasting their money going to the same establishment. 

[timmy1]

What i find more weird is the "pornstars" who charge £120 hh yet dont pornstar services when escorting, case in point this girl in her scenes she does a-levels, cim, swallow etc but her escorting likes list is very vanilla, kind of defeats the purpose 

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[2 pair]

What i find more weird is the "pornstars" who charge £120 hh yet dont pornstar services when escorting, case in point this girl in her scenes she does a-levels, cim, swallow etc but her escorting likes list is very vanilla, kind of defeats the purpose 

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Just paying to bang a name, at the end of the day.
Tick one off the bucket list.

[HazelValentine]

Ok here's my two pence, just had a look at Aberdeen local escorts page and if someone looking like Lydia - h, is charging same rate as me for half  hour, which is 80quid,then i better put my prices up  picture of Lydia

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Sorry girl, but that attitude is just snobbish and super tacky....

• This is a tough industry, SP should be lifting and supporting each other, not putting others down
• You also don't know her, so you don't know what sort of service she provides : saying you're worth a higher rate is implying that your LOOKS are the only thing that matters here, when there's so many different things that can determine how good a SP is. Just cos you're pretty doesn't equal a more valuable service ffs

-Totally valid reasons for calling other SP out- scamming or stealing or outing /doxxing you, stealing your photos etc. & risky health choices, but even then, you don't know the full story unless you were personally involved so probably shouldn't pick sides

But insulting someones looks? (Something they cannot change!?) That just is the opposite of classy imo


I really tried not to reply to this as I know I'll only come across as angry but I just couldn't leave it, apologies lmao

[scutty brown]

Ok here's my two pence, just had a look at Aberdeen local escorts page and if someone looking like Lydia - h, is charging same rate as me for half  hour, which is 80quid,then i better put my prices up  picture of Lydia

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Looks to me like she's charging based on novelty value.........not often you get the chance to fuck what looks like a lesbian

[Silvercity]

Sorry girl, but that attitude is just snobbish and super tacky....

• This is a tough industry, SP should be lifting and supporting each other, not putting others down
• You also don't know her, so you don't know what sort of service she provides : saying you're worth a higher rate is implying that your LOOKS are the only thing that matters here, when there's so many different things that can determine how good a SP is. Just cos you're pretty doesn't equal a more valuable service ffs

-Totally valid reasons for calling other SP out- scamming or stealing or outing /doxxing you, stealing your photos etc. & risky health choices, but even then, you don't know the full story unless you were personally involved so probably shouldn't pick sides

But insulting someones looks? (Something they cannot change!?) That just is the opposite of classy imo


I really tried not to reply to this as I know I'll only come across as angry but I just couldn't leave it, apologies lmao

Fair enough I was in ultra bitch mode and mood that day. Shit happens I'm not perfect. If i was perfect you'd all have more reasons to hate me.

[Silvercity]

Though suppose you haven't seen ugliest escort thread on here, where everyone bitches to their hearts content, purely based on pictures and looks and nothing to do with reviews or services offered etc.??? You're not calling that distasteful, snobbish or tacky? https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=10615.0

[HazelValentine]

Though suppose you haven't seen ugliest escort thread on here, where everyone bitches to their hearts content, purely based on pictures and looks and nothing to do with reviews or services offered etc.??? You're not calling that distasteful, snobbish or tacky? https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=10615.0

I have seen. Punters will have their opinions on here and I could disagree to my hearts content but at the end of the day if they're the ones paying they will have preferences on who they spend it on. That thread's purpose is for shock value...

WGs who join in with that thread or any bashing of other escorts in general I have more of a problem with than ANYTHING a punter will ever say. It comes back to that we should be supporting each other and we can empathise with working in this industry.

Attitudes I hear all the time that I think are backwards and gross:

• Higher rate girls bashing on lower rate as if that genuinely affects their worth as a human being
• Lower rate calling higher rate "stuck up" (everyone has different targets)
• Skinny girls insulting fat girls and occasionally I see it the other way round
• Any SP insulting street workers, you don't know their story
• Other sex workers ie. cam girls or strippers, thinking they are somehow "better" than us
• Escorts judging other escorts who also do porn as cheap
• SWs doing this on the side of their normal job /that have degrees, or to fund themselves through uni as being "better" in any way                     
        ^ I am aware I say I'm a student in my marketing. I am under no illusion that I'm any better than anyone because of it, but I am also bound by a market that forces us to play to our strengths. I'd like to reiterate that I don't think that makes me worth more than anyone else. Client attitudes are partially to blame as its the clients who tell me that is something they are willing to pay more for, and whilst I have to play to their expectations, I do see the underlying classism
• Indies bashing girls working in brothels and parlours
• Female SW thinking trans or gay escorts don't belong in this industry
• White providers who believe they should charge more than black girls etc

I could go on, but I don't think punters want to hear it.
I was just calling you out for your bad attitude. It's not helpful to anyone, neither the lady in the photo or yourself


Calling someone ugly is just a wee bit nasty... UKP will always have people name-calling, but maybe I hold other SPs to a higher standard?  Since we're all in this together !


And finally, I don't know if she'll ever stumble across this thread, but I actually think Lydia has a great look. Lots of clients like to try an alternative looking girl.
The tats aren't badly done, the snake bites are appealing to my teenage fantasies, and she actually has really pretty eyes (and if the lashes are natural then they're super fluttery) Her hair colour has been done well and it suits her skin tone, whether you're a fan of the style or not. Hard to tell from that one photo but she looks like she works out more than I do ahaha! If you were trying to pick an example to make you look better in comparison you probably didn't pick that well.
But rather that having to single anyone else out to mock, just try supporting other sex workers

[scutty brown]

Will you two please fuck off and stop trying to tell us what and how to think?
If I see a fattie she's going to be called a fattie, likewise a fuggly.
We don't want or need you two debating over the intricacies of newspeak and political correctness here

[HazelValentine]

Will you two please fuck off and stop trying to tell us what and how to think?
If I see a fattie she's going to be called a fattie, likewise a fuggly.
We don't want or need you two debating over the intricacies of newspeak and political correctness here

Okay noted. Understood and won't be responding from now on

I don't think punters should have what they say policed by me.
I just will call out other WGs if they are insulting random girls they don't know, it's petty and turns the whole thing into a school playground of who is "hot" vs "ugly"

[Lilywhite]

• SWs doing this on the side of their normal job /that have degrees, or to fund themselves through uni as being "better" in any way                     
        ^ I am aware I say I'm a student in my marketing. I am under no illusion that I'm any better than anyone because of it, but I am also bound by a market that forces us to play to our strengths. I'd like to reiterate that I don't think that makes me worth more than anyone else. Client attitudes are partially to blame as its the clients who tell me that is something they are willing to pay more for, and whilst I have to play to their expectations, I do see the underlying classism

  Yeah my dog has just completed her BA Business Studies (Sandwich) at Napier. I'll remind her to tell people on her first shift at Blair Street. The punters need to know how well educated she is!!

[Clattypats]

Yeah my dog has just completed her BA Business Studies (Sandwich) at Napier. I'll remind her to tell people on her first shift at Blair Street. The punters need to know how well educated she is!!

Reading between the lines it would appear clients are telling her she should charge/is worth more, because they are Fluffy Fucking twats!...

[Shame]

Sorry girl, but that attitude is just snobbish and super tacky....

• This is a tough industry, SP should be lifting and supporting each other, not putting others down
• You also don't know her, so you don't know what sort of service she provides : saying you're worth a higher rate is implying that your LOOKS are the only thing that matters here, when there's so many different things that can determine how good a SP is. Just cos you're pretty doesn't equal a more valuable service ffs

-Totally valid reasons for calling other SP out- scamming or stealing or outing /doxxing you, stealing your photos etc. & risky health choices, but even then, you don't know the full story unless you were personally involved so probably shouldn't pick sides

But insulting someones looks? (Something they cannot change!?) That just is the opposite of classy imo


I really tried not to reply to this as I know I'll only come across as angry but I just couldn't leave it, apologies lmao

@Hazel, couldn’t have put it better myself. Likewise I find it hard to hold my tongue on where this thread has veered toward.

Ok, so I have seen Lydia and she’s a smashing girl. Nothings a problem: Terrific attitude, she’s accommodating, sincere and a good laugh. She’s also good VFM.

@SCB - As a regular visitor to the granite city, I’ve tried to book you on a number of occasions over the years and found you standoffish and unaccommodating. Not surprised we’ve never met. I find it very ironic that the manner in which you’ve suggested you’re worth more money you’ve come across as unbelievably cheap. I won’t be trying to reach you again, you are demonstrably a self-centered individual - in my 15 years of punting I know from experience that’s not a good attribute in a service driven industry. You’re not for me, but have a nice career. 

I’d also suggest that if SPs are feeling prickly and bitchy, they stay off the internet. 

[Jock D]

TLDR...

OP starts thread with a moan about overpricing...which 99% of punters will agree or have sympathy with...

Ballsy, but obviously up herself...East European WG...with very impressive written English skills...interjects with an out of order, uncalled for 'dissing' of a fellow hoor.

Cue...predictable responses...that quickly escalate into petty arguements...punter v WG...punter v punter and then WG v WG

and then just when it appears to  be petering out...another WG(or former?) chucks her hat in the ring...and off we go again

[Lilywhite]

and then just when it appears to  be petering out...another WG(or former?) chucks her hat in the ring...and off we go again

If you are referring to me, it was just a joke.

[Jock D]

The whole threads a joke!

[Lilywhite]

The whole threads a joke!

It could have been good!

Personally, all joking aside- I do want to know what the punter's solution would be to rising rates and at what point people think it will sink in to SPs that it's getting nuts.

I remember a few years ago people said "I wouldn't pay more than £70 hh" and now as SPs seem to be charging more, there are less options. Will it eventually price some people out? Would you give up punting if everyone went too high?

[Clattypats]

It could have been good!

Personally, all joking aside- I do want to know what the punter's solution would be to rising rates and at what point people think it will sink in to SPs that it's getting nuts.

I remember a few years ago people said "I wouldn't pay more than £70 hh" and now as SPs seem to be charging more, there are less options. Will it eventually price some people out? Would you give up punting if everyone went too high?

My "ceiling" is 100hh, it used to be 80hh...I don't see me going above 100 anytime soon...

Like I said earlier in the thread, if you don't like the price, look elsewhere and book someone else... As much as I see what the OP is trying to do/highlight, I don't think linking to profiles of WGs we deem to be too dear is going to drive their prices down... 

Scutty Brown makes a fair point in reply#46

[Jock D]

Would you give up punting if everyone went too high?

Yes...I would content myself with a 2 hour marathon wank...and in the immediate afterglow, I would reflect on how much money I had saved whilst devouring a pot noodle....

[Gurhur]

So now all this thread  has done is make me want to see Lydia........ And she's gone, I take it she's just a short term visitor?

[Boinky]

Yes...I would content myself with a 2 hour marathon wank...and in the immediate afterglow, I would reflect on how much money I had saved whilst devouring a pot noodle....

With the money saved you could splurge on a cuppa soup as well.

Be careful not to burn your cock off when splurging however......

[Happyjose]

With the money saved you could splurge on a cuppa soup as well.

Be careful not to burn your cock off when splurging however......

 

[seeker]

It could have been good!

Personally, all joking aside- I do want to know what the punter's solution would be to rising rates and at what point people think it will sink in to SPs that it's getting nuts.

I remember a few years ago people said "I wouldn't pay more than £70 hh" and now as SPs seem to be charging more, there are less options. Will it eventually price some people out? Would you give up punting if everyone went too high?

I've already cut right down on punting from 4 a month to 1 or possibly 2
The girls I like are now charging £100
Or above,  so I say "fuck um " but not literally and refuse to see them
Not that I cant afford to see them but I choose not to .
I only see my one  reg or a tourer that takes my fancy  but wont go over £100hh
And at that she has to tick a lot of boxes .

[Shame]

So now all this thread  has done is make me want to see Lydia........ And she's gone, I take it she's just a short term visitor?

normally based out of Yorkshire/northeast England.

[The Man With No Name]

Will it eventually price some people out? Would you give up punting if everyone went too high?

I guess it always has in the sense that people like me would almost definitely punt more, if all hookers we like you. That is, in the sense of giving a decent service for the prices you charge, with the flexible timings you offer, if the truth be told. I still haven't fucked you, Lily - so I can't be more specific than that.

But like the vast majority of things in life, I only properly enjoy something, knowing I've gotten at least a reasonable deal relative to average market rates. No matter how good her look or service is, I simply can't pay 120 for half an hour with an amazing girl, when I know there are plenty of very fuckable ones who'll bang me twice for almost half the price.

Whether it's on the basis of a quickie, half, three-quarter, or a rare full hour booking, I almost never pay more than 50 quid/pop/girl. I'd usually need to be utterly gagging for a fuck with no other options, in order to do so.

In laymen terms, that usually boils down to 100/hh, absolute max. But even then, the girl usually needs to be offering something special for a second pop that quick - like happily putting her tight asshole round my dick, or sucking another girl's cunt, as I fuck her a second time - again, preferably in the ass.

Accordingly, 15 punts are therefore where I do most of business, given such services at decent value are pretty rare.

In terms of whether I'd ever give it up altogether, I imagine there'll always be girls on the market, charging acceptable amounts relative to my wage and state of the local economy, that I can justify paying to fuck. On saying that, things have been stretched pretty much as far as they can go on the hooker pricing front recently. When I started punting seven or eight years ago, the standard quickie rate was 40-50 quid, depending on the girl. This is now pushing 60 for most you'd actually want to fuck - all in well under a decade of economic stagnation. Similarly, half-hour rates that were 60-70 are now pushing 90 - hence the dwindling number of girls I can justify paying for a shag.

Another issue on top of all this though is the fact that I'm still (barely) good-looking and young enough, to shag something comparably attractive enough that'll genuinely make me cum without too much trouble - all for free, provided I've got the time and am also willing to the put the effort in to do so. Thus, while I occasionally punt to fulfill fantasies pretty unobtainable on civvy street, I generally do so for convenience, combined with the desire and thrill of the impulsive immediacy of it. When I'm old, ugly, probably fat and metaphorically fucked, I likely won't have (at least a desirable sex) free sex life, so will likely be more of a slave to the market, inevitably.