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Author Topic: Tonight on BBC3 - Prostitution: What's The Harm?  (Read 21715 times)

Offline Jimmyredcab

Yes, I got that impression too.

Suspect she has serious desires to try it out herself as she is now mixing with many that could help her set herself up.

or, maybe she has done so already on a smaller scale already!  (if so, good news for JRC)   :drinks:

The strange thing is that I did meet a pro$$ie a few years ago who was a double for Billie JD Porter, she called herself "Delicious Delight" and was using a friends flat in Chiswick, her rate was a bargain £100 an hour, she never lasted long, her profile disappeared shortly after.

Offline CBPaul

Great stuff about the eggy bit ;)

I agree with you about the presenter, I do think they should have used a proper presenter and a more mature one at that to do a better balanced and informative programme. When I see pretty young presenters pretending to be even younger and looking cute and shocked at porn or prostitution or whatever it feels to me more of a titillating programme rather than and investigative one.

That's why I said  I would love someone like Kirsty Wark doing something like this, she would command more presence and probably sound more believable.

Titillating - that's the very word for it. The same as Stacey Dooley (or whatever her name is) and not so far removed from Jodie Marsh in terms of credibility. How about a male presenter for a change ? Jeremy Paxman (no nonsense), Stephen Fry (unflappable and immune to the ladies) or Jeremy Clarkson (for a laugh).

Offline CBPaul

Ann Widecombe maybe?  :lol:

Yes, the lass was definitely trying to make herself appear even younger with her hairstyle.

Ann Widecombe did a programme a few years back. Quite one sided of course but very entertaining as 1/3 of it was street prossies in Peterborough. Just so happened she had a couple of very candid interviews with a girl I had picked up myself in my old street punting days.
It is still on youtube under Ann Widecome versus Prostitution.

Offline Jimmyredcab



Yes, the lass was definitely trying to make herself appear even younger with her hairstyle.

I doubt you would say no ---------- truly stunning.   :drinks:


Offline akauya

Titillating - that's the very word for it. The same as Stacey Dooley (or whatever her name is) and not so far removed from Jodie Marsh in terms of credibility. How about a male presenter for a change ? Jeremy Paxman (no nonsense), Stephen Fry (unflappable and immune to the ladies) or Jeremy Clarkson (for a laugh).

NIK suggesting Ann Widdecombe and now you Jeremy Clarkson  :scare: :scare: :lol:

I bet Clarkson would have to road test the prossies first to give an opinion :D


Offline vorian

Titillating - that's the very word for it. The same as Stacey Dooley (or whatever her name is) and not so far removed from Jodie Marsh in terms of credibility. How about a male presenter for a change ? Jeremy Paxman (no nonsense), Stephen Fry (unflappable and immune to the ladies) or Jeremy Clarkson (for a laugh).

I too was wrong with my thoughts on what the programme was going to be like before broadcast,  lesson duly noted.  It was more balanced than I thought it would be, still a missed opportunity imo. Very light without any real journalistic edge. Guess that would be too much to expect in an hour programme.

Has anyone ever seen a TV programme that seems to accurately represent what modern punting is about,  I can't recall one myself which is a real shame.
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Just watched the programme on iPlayer and here on my thoughts:

1) I have seen the comedian and he comes across to me as a poor man's Russell Brand. He did have earnest points and I think it was important to go into what brought him into punting. What should be noted though is that the set I saw him perform at the Edinburgh Fringe (before you ask, I didn't punt there) concentrated on his experiences in Bangkok, which wasn't explored I assume for budget reasons.

2) It was a bit annoying that they only focussed on young punters, but I can understand this as it in a way that it bust the stereotype of punters only being old men in rain-macs, although it did perhaps focus too much on those who choose to punt as opposed to those who are unable to pull and so use punting as a means to an end. Also, those young guys are much braver than me. If I was approached, they would have to treat me as if I was in the SAS!  :D

3) Good to see a girl who chose the business and doing well represented by Louise Kay. I wouldn't though, her tatts put me right off!  :thumbsdown:

4) This programme showed that the law is currently an ass with regards to brothels and really ought to be corrected. Sex work is risky and that risk only increases if a girl doesn't have the security of safety in numbers. It is good that the police (mostly) use their common sense like the police chief shown, but I fear if any politician attempted to do that, the Daily Mail would skin them alive.

5)Becky Adams and Louise Kay are right, women who choose this work should be able to use brothels for safety and be listened to. They provide an angle of feminist discourse that should, but never will be taken seriously by the middle-class  :manhater: cult that sees women who do not look and sound like them as alien, and thus should be ignored.

6)If Billie Porter was a WG, she would defo be on my Hot List, but would probably well above my pay grade.  :dash:

On the whole, much better than I expected.  :thumbsup:

Offline Gordo987

Just watched the programme on iPlayer and here on my thoughts:

1) I have seen the comedian and he comes across to me as a poor man's Russell Brand. He did have earnest points and I think it was important to go into what brought him into punting. What should be noted though is that the set I saw him perform at the Edinburgh Fringe (before you ask, I didn't punt there) concentrated on his experiences in Bangkok, which wasn't explored I assume for budget reasons.

2) It was a bit annoying that they only focussed on young punters, but I can understand this as it in a way that it bust the stereotype of punters only being old men in rain-macs, although it did perhaps focus too much on those who choose to punt as opposed to those who are unable to pull and so use punting as a means to an end. Also, those young guys are much braver than me. If I was approached, they would have to treat me as if I was in the SAS!  :D

3) Good to see a girl who chose the business and doing well represented by Louise Kay. I wouldn't though, her tatts put me right off!  :thumbsdown:

4) This programme showed that the law is currently an ass with regards to brothels and really ought to be corrected. Sex work is risky and that risk only increases if a girl doesn't have the security of safety in numbers. It is good that the police (mostly) use their common sense like the police chief shown, but I fear if any politician attempted to do that, the Daily Mail would skin them alive.

5)Becky Adams and Louise Kay are right, women who choose this work should be able to use brothels for safety and be listened to. They provide an angle of feminist discourse that should, but never will be taken seriously by the middle-class  :manhater: cult that sees women who do not look and sound like them as alien, and thus should be ignored.

6)If Billie Porter was a WG, she would defo be on my Hot List, but would probably well above my pay grade.  :dash:

On the whole, much better than I expected:thumbsup:

I agree with all of these observations (does anybody not fancy Billie?)

To those that know who they are, the words 'jump' and 'gun'  :wacko:
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Offline Gordo987

I think she warrants a picture:



 :thumbsup:
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Offline Qwerty

In case anyone's including me among the "jumping the gun" comments, I'd like to point out that I made no mention of any expectations for this programme, rather about journalism on the subject in general - which I think most of us would agree is pretty negative.

Glad to hear it if this time they evened up the odds a bit.

Offline unclepokey

I thought this a relatively well balanced report and it well exposed the flaws in the law re brothels It initially focussed too much on the younger punter demand. But boys will be boys. The older punter and his perhaps gentler approach was rather well expressed I thought by one of the prostitutes interviewed.
PC Plod was absolutely on point I thought. His views were (although he might never care to admit it) completely at one with the brothel reform ideas that so many of members have from time to time expressed.

Uncle Pokey

Offline CBPaul

I agree with all of these observations (does anybody not fancy Billie?)

To those that know who they are, the words 'jump' and 'gun'  :wacko:

Just making observations on previous programmes that have been a waste of time viewing and entering into a debate on it. Have also happily admitted above that on some counts I was wrong, it was a better programme than I anticipated.

As for Billie, if she did open that brothel I'd be in the queue. Just hope she wouldn't take too much advice from Madam Becky on time wasting.

Offline Jimmyredcab



As for Billie, if she did open that brothel I'd be in the queue. Just hope she wouldn't take too much advice from Madam Becky on time wasting.

What was all that bollocks about ginger nut biscuits, in many hundreds of punts I have never been offered ----- or wanted, tea and biscuits.     :crazy: :crazy:

Online Marmalade

Stacey Dooley Investigates the Truth on Prague did exactly the same K5 tour / interview same time last year.

Also BBC 3

Exactly. She never reveals anything new. But it was good balanced PR for punting. Loved the way her eyes widened at the earnings figures.  :D

For all those who comment on the neglect of an older punters view remover the demographic of the audience this was aimed at.

This may help http://audiences.visualdna.com/youtube/uk/brands/channels_uk/bbc3

Offline Jimmyredcab

Exactly. She never reveals anything new. But it was good balanced PR for punting. Loved the way her eyes widened at the earnings figures.  :D

Yes, I noticed that ------------------- but it is not something she could "dabble in", she either sticks with her career or crosses the line in the sand, she has to make a choice.   :hi:

Offline vorian

Yes, I noticed that ------------------- but it is not something she could "dabble in", she either sticks with her career or crosses the line in the sand, she has to make a choice.   :hi:

Wasn't she fucking one of the boy bands. I'm sure that counts a being a prossie anyway. Wonder if she declared those earnings.
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Offline Jimmyredcab

Wasn't she fucking one of the boy bands.

There was a rumour regarding Harry Styles ----------------- but he is probably fucking all and sundry, lucky bastard.   :hi:

Offline GeeWiz

Not bad, but too much lap dancing footage used as wallpaper.  Plus no need to do that spot on her web camming.  Both different worlds IMO.

Only once have I been given a cup of coffee at a MP and that was because it was a freezing winter morning.  Luckily she didn't put it on a toilet seat for me.

You gotta feel sorry for the people who live next door to those short-term rental flats.

Offline Steve2



You gotta feel sorry for the people who live next door to those short-term rental flats.

A lot of them are doing exactly the same thing  :rolleyes:


Offline lovetopunt

I must say it was actually quite good and very balanced view. Now everyone now about AW and MissLouiseKay.

My view is as long as it is the girl free choice, there's nothing wrong selling their body and make money of it. I don't earn £90,000 a year, so it is a very good career after all if you are successful, so people should not think it is wrong to be a WG. 

Offline alenski

my thoughts on the programme 1]i think the prostitute chosen for the interview is very atypical in that she earned £89,000in two years from camming and also worked as a successful outcall wg.if you read the read the threads on saafe some girls are barely making  the rent money at this time of year. 2] the punters being interviewed were also totally unrepresentive of the clients wg,s normally see ie middle aged men about 30to 60 or in my case 69.

Offline akauya

Exactly. She never reveals anything new. But it was good balanced PR for punting. Loved the way her eyes widened at the earnings figures.  :D

Yeah I noticed that too.. I could just imagine her thinking hmmmm that's a hell of lot more money than I'm getting here. If she ever finds herself unemployed she now knows what she can do :)


Offline Jay-Jay

I don't know....she just looked filthy to me in the "needs a good wash" way !

Jay


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