BAREBACK

[fisherofsouls]

tottally disagree! What do you think you should do on one night stands then? Go baerback? lol. Where do you get this that condom use is just associated with prostitues? I seriously don't understand. I do agree that using condoms with your boyfriend/girlfriend would not be somthing that you do though because me and my boyfriend obviously do not use them either. But condom use is not just for prossies ffs....

Kylie,

Is that your profile at External Link/Members Only ?

If so, I would really like to see you

Nick

[smiths]

When humans are born they are given brains, it is with these brains that decisions should be made, that's right, what's wrong, what's safe what's dangerous etc. You can call it "judging" if you like but that's just an attempt to move the debate.

Barebacking a pro$$ie is wrong as the risks are very high, in the same way when you see the train coming and the level crossing is down jumping over the gate and running accross in front of the train is very high risk, both offer high risk for little benefit, and a sane person would not take the risk. However in the desperate clammer for the £££ some pro$$ies take the risk. 

Quite right. I note the way some try to move the point, who are we to judge, firstly its called posting your opinions, you know, what posters do on forums, secondly, its a medically proven fact easily verified by a GUM that if you BB you are taking a higher risk than using a condom, if you are then a WG letting any Tom, Dick or Harry BB you your risk is OBVIOUSLY increased of catching and spreading infection as it is if your the village bike but do many village  bikes fuck as many guys as most WGs. Its called logic and being aware of the risks and caring about your own sexual health, a facet missing from BBs thinking, either they simply dont care, arent too smart or want to purposely infect others.

[Wife4rent]

Bareback has always been a taboo subject on forums with only a very few people shouting the loudest

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=2305.0

And the result of the poll was... Total Members Voted: 17

And yet we constantly get new topics started re this subject or comments from "few". yet the above topic has had 600+ views and this one 1200+

35% (6 votes) would not have bareback but would do oral on a girl that may have just had bareback sex so be dripping in another man's juice, punters are happy to French kiss a WG just after she may have provided a CIM service

WG's that offer BB are accused of not caring for their health yet many punters seem so willing to visit WG's, regardless of if they offer BB or not, and put their health and innocent members of their family at risk. there are other health risks with girls other than doing BB.

It is always th WG that seems to take the brunt of the blame, accused by some, of doing it to earn extra money. yet this is pure speculation as the question should be, why do punters do it? As it costs them money to participate. As per the "Submissive Whores" thread, can working girls not just do it because they enjoy / prefer it?

If punters did not want BB WG would not be able to provide the service as nobody would want it

[Geetaw1]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=2305.0

And the result of the poll was... Total Members Voted: 17

And yet we constantly get new topics started re this subject or comments from "few". yet the above topic has had 600+ views and this one 1200+

35% (6 votes) would not have bareback but would do oral on a girl that may have just had bareback sex so be dripping in another man's juice, punters are happy to French kiss a WG just after she may have provided a CIM service

WG's that offer BB are accused of not caring for their health yet many punters seem so willing to visit WG's, regardless of if they offer BB or not, and put their health and innocent members of their family at risk. there are other health risks with girls other than doing BB.

It is always th WG that seems to take the brunt of the blame, accused by some, of doing it to earn extra money. yet this is pure speculation as the question should be, why do punters do it? As it costs them money to participate. As per the "Submissive Whores" thread, can working girls not just do it because they enjoy / prefer it?

If punters did not want BB WG would not be able to provide the service as nobody would want it

Are you here just to constantly be offended? I started the 'Submissive Whores' thread as I am curious as to WHY the women enjoy it. That much is obvious if you fucking read it properly.

[Wife4rent]

Are you here just to constantly be offended? I started the 'Submissive Whores' thread as I am curious as to WHY the women enjoy it. That much is obvious if you fucking read it properly.

If only you knew what you were talking about, or even bright enough to write it.

Sorry what is the above all about?

How am I being offended? I do not feel offended

And what point about your "Submissive Whore" post is it that you think I have missed

Take your time you may just be able to work it out, if not, ask a friend....

[Geetaw1]

If only you knew what you were talking about, or even bright enough to write it.

Sorry what is the above all about?

How am I being offended? I do not feel offended

And what point about your "Submissive Whore" post is it that you think I have missed

Take your time you may just be able to work it out, if not, ask a friend....

Okay,  "It is always th WG that seems to take the brunt of the blame, accused by some, of doing it to earn extra money. yet this is pure speculation as the question should be, why do punters do it? As it costs them money to participate. As per the "Submissive Whores" thread, can working girls not just do it because they enjoy / prefer it?"

This epitomises your whole attitude. You are constantly in a defensive state. There was nothing to be defensive about from my thread and you quite clearly didn't read it as I asked WHY some women are into it, so your idiotic "...[C]an working girls not just do it because they enjoy it / prefer it," misses the point spectacularly.

You are so blinkered because of your perpetual defensive state that it preclues you from comprehending posts on this forum.

Either that or you are just thick.

[Wife4rent]

Okay, moron: "It is always th WG that seems to take the brunt of the blame, accused by some, of doing it to earn extra money. yet this is pure speculation as the question should be, why do punters do it? As it costs them money to participate. As per the "Submissive Whores" thread, can working girls not just do it because they enjoy / prefer it?"

This epitomises your whole attitude. You are constantly in a defensive state. There was nothing to be defensive about from my thread and you quite clearly didn't read it as I asked WHY some women are into it, so your idiotic "...[C]an working girls not just do it because they enjoy it / prefer it," misses the point spectacularly.

You are so blinkered because of your perpetual defensive state that it preclues you from comprehending posts on this forum.

Either that or you are just thick.

Personally I think it is yourself that is thick and stupid and seem to have totally missed the whole point of my post. For one my reference to your post was not a reply to it, just showing an example that maybe girls do actually do things because they enjoy doing them, not just for the money. Which is exactly what you pointed out....

A lot of girls that offer BB are quite capable of earning a good living from doing it with a condom, in fact some men would actually be put off seeing a girl that offers BB and certainly not promote them by writing a review or FR. So therefore they lose out on money and the negative probably balances out the positive of extra earnings from offering it so no gain.

I do not see my post as being defensive as opposed to putting another point of view to that of certain other people, all you have done is attack my post with your stupidity and aggression, calm down sir.
Try reading my post and understanding it, as I did your topic.

As to why women should enjoy it, that was clearly explained by Matium

Women are submissive for the same reasons as men. Look at all the men who go to BDSM sites so that they can serve their Mistress.

These women get a sexual thrill from serving men.

[Geetaw1]

Personally I think it is yourself that is thick and stupid and seem to have totally missed the whole point of my post. For one my reference to your post was not a reply to it, just showing an example that maybe girls do actually do things because they enjoy doing them, not just for the money. Which is exactly what you pointed out....

A lot of girls that offer BB are quite capable of earning a good living from doing it with a condom, in fact some men would actually be put off seeing a girl that offers BB and certainly not promote them by writing a review or FR. So therefore they lose out on money and the negative probably balances out the positive of extra earnings from offering it so no gain.

I do not see my post as being defensive as opposed to putting another point of view to that of certain other people, all you have done is attack my post with your stupidity and aggression, calm down sir.
Try reading my post and understanding it, as I did your topic.

As to why women should enjoy it, that was clearly explained by Matium

I did misconstrue your message. I thought you were being critical of my thread, along with being critical of those who don't countenance the possibility that women do BB because they enjoy it.

Thus, I was out-of-order in criticising you, and I am sorry.

[Wife4rent]

Thus, I was out-of-order in criticising you, and I am sorry.

Friends... x x

[Geetaw1]

Friends... x x

Maybe...!  No, I was wrong, no qualms about apologising. Cheers for the magnaminity.

[ollie1960]

bareback done by WGS because it generates shed loads of cash and there are hundreds of guys out there will only punt with  bareback providers its all about supply and demand , and whatever you think the demand will always be there , also a lot of bareback providers cherry  pick there guys and get enough regulars,  then drop the bareback off the profile so you will never know what you are taking on when you punt with them

[James999]

, also a lot of bareback providers cherry  pick there guys and get enough regulars,  then drop the bareback off the profile so you will never know what you are taking on when you punt with them

Can you link a couple of examples so we know who to avoid 

[ollie1960]

no wouldnt do that anyway look for the signs when punting you might even taste it  lol

[James999]

no wouldnt do that

Why not, this site is about sharing information and warnings.

[Mellow]

Why not, this site is about sharing information and warnings.

I can't find the thread but I think there is a consensus here that any "finds" should not be shared. Couple that, with the nastiness displayed by UKPunting's mole/grass" who seems to revel in the prospect of destroying wgs reputations and financial security.

[James999]

It's not the find we're looking for but the warnings of barebackers undercover 

[Mellow]

It's not the find we're looking for but the warnings of barebackers undercover 

There are more than enough members here on UKpunting and elsewhere that do "bareback" and would hate to see their favourites exposed and vilified. I would suggest that the private message system would be best. Putting the punter first, remember that

[kiwi69]

It's not the find we're looking for but the warnings of barebackers undercover 

Punt in  Europe,  then you could select your   " No Go's " from  all the  many exclusively " BB "  ( AO )  forums ........

No worries !

[MarkLT]

bareback punting is never going to go away....I sincerely hope

[TeenKylie]

bareback punting is never going to go away....I sincerely hope

You punt bareback? And you don't even care admiting it?? Why would you put yourself at risk like that?

[Mellow]

You punt bareback? And you don't even care admiting it?? Why would you put yourself at risk like that?

he obviously assessed the risk and decided he likes to go bareback, he's an adult with as much right as you or me to speak what he feels is to his own benefit. I personally think that wgs offering foot tickling are the lowest form of life. That's just an opinion, right or wrong isn't relevant. carbunkles are a real risk.

[softlad]

Why would you put yourself at risk like that?

he obviously assessed the risk and decided he likes to go bareback, he's an adult with as much right as you or me to speak what he feels is to his own benefit.

Quite right Mellow, as far as I know it's not illegal, and who are any of us to judge ?

I don't know the medical facts on this TeenKylie, but I note you do owo & cim on your AW profile, is that not a similar risk ?

[TeenKylie]

Quite right Mellow, as far as I know it's not illegal, and who are any of us to judge ?

I don't know the medical facts on this TeenKylie, but I note you do owo & cim on your AW profile, is that not a similar risk ?

Not as high a risk as seeing punters BB! I can have my own oppion also and i would just like to know how he dose not have any respect for his own body?? I honestly get a full check up every couple of months also and so far believe it or not but ive always been clean!

[softlad]

Not as high a risk as seeing punters BB! I can have my own oppion also and i would just like to know how he dose not have any respect for his own body??

Of course you can have your own opinion, I'm just curious as to what it's based on ?
I would have thought, if you are exchanging bodily fluids either oraly or by BB, the risk is equal ?  (any Dr's out there care to correct me)

Saying that I'm a hypocrite, because I'd do cim, but not BB.

[TeenKylie]

Of course you can have your own opinion, I'm just curious as to what it's based on ?
I would have thought, if you are exchanging bodily fluids either oraly or by BB, the risk is equal ?  (any Dr's out there care to correct me)

Saying that I'm a hypocrtite, because I'd do cim, but not BB.

Of course its not the same risk! Thats why its called bareback for a reason lol! The body fluids are mixing so much more than just CIM. I suggest you google this and get some proper information.

[TeenKylie]

Of course you can have your own opinion, I'm just curious as to what it's based on ?
I would have thought, if you are exchanging bodily fluids either oraly or by BB, the risk is equal ?  (any Dr's out there care to correct me)

Saying that I'm a hypocrite, because I'd do cim, but not BB.

Why don't you do BB then if you think its the same? lol

[James999]

I honestly get a full check up every couple of months also and so far believe it or not but ive always been clean!

All pro$$ies say that, even the barebackers

[TeenKylie]

All pro$$ies say that, even the barebackers

And how did i know you would say that james? Like ive said sooo meny times before when someone is actually telling the truth there very rarley believe! Because for some reason most of you think WGs are liars and i tell you i am not a liar no matter what you think.

[softlad]

Why don't you do BB then if you think its the same? lol

I know were and who I've been with..... I can't say the same for pro$$ies.
CIM is a risk I'm prepared to take, as it's not on the menu at home, BB is.

[James999]

And how did i know you would say that james?

because it's true, you only have to read a lot of the pro$$ie ads on AW

[TeenKylie]

because it's true, you only have to read a lot of the pro$$ie ads on AW

Okay thats fine but everything on my profile is true thankyou! I don't bullshit clients, i don't see the point.

[James999]

Okay thats fine but everything on my profile is true thankyou! I don't bullshit clients, i don't see the point.

Well you admited earlier to lying about your age on yoru AW profile, so the point of lying was obviously to deceive and earn money.

Yes that is correct. I obviously had to say i was 18 when i was not,

[TeenKylie]

Well you admited earlier to lying about your age on yoru AW profile, so the point of lying was obviously to deceive and earn money.

It was a means to an end at the time! And that is the only thing i have ever lied about saying that i was 18 when in fact i was 17 thats not really 'deceiving' anyone and i did not even know it was illegal at the time. At this moment there is NOTHING un true in my profile and it will stay that way. I respect my clients and would not want to mislead them in anyway.

[TeenKylie]

And it was only a few weeks before my birthday for gods sake! I don't understand why your triying to catch me out when i am a very honest person in general.

[sacredrealm]

Interesting.
I notice loads of escorts offer OWO. Is this dangerous? Also is there a difference between agency girls and indipendant in terms of how often they check for things?

[James999]

It was a means to an end at the time! And that is the only thing i have ever lied about saying that i was 18 when in fact i was 17 thats not really 'deceiving' anyone

Yes you were deceiving men, as if they had been caught having sex with you (paid for) when you were 17 they were brakig the law, it is evident that as you say "it was a means to an end" in other words you will say whatever you like to achieve your objective with scant regard for others.

Also your profile say's you don't offer bareback sex yet you have feedback for bareback from a punter with a reasonably high feedback rating from numerous girls, so it is reasonable to assume he is genuine. 

[TeenKylie]

Yes you were deceiving men, as if they had been caught having sex with you (paid for) when you were 17 they were brakig the law, it is evident that as you say "it was a means to an end" in other words you will say whatever you like to achieve your objective with scant regard for others.

Like i just said it was a few weeks before my birthday seriously! When i say it was a means to an end what i ment was that i would not have been able to create a AW profile if i had not said i was 17 not that i knew it were illegal. Im not really bothered about anything more you have to say as like i said i respect my clients and i am an honest indiviual and you james do not know anything about me, you are just putting me in the box with all the other WGs. And this is proberly the 20th time ive said this but i also have my ID on me now 24.7.

[smiths]

Interesting.
I notice loads of escorts offer OWO. Is this dangerous? Also is there a difference between agency girls and indipendant in terms of how often they check for things?

Assuming your a punter i advise you to do a bit of research about the different sexual services you are interested in doing. They all have a risk, but OWO is less risk than BB by a long way.

Who knows who gets checked and who doesnt, NEVER just trust someones word, always look after your own sexual health which doing BB is clearly and medically proven to put at risk.

[James999]

you are just putting me in the box

No one is "putting you in a box" you simply stated how you don't lie and I pointed out that you stated you were 18 when you were 17, that is YOUR words not mine nor anyone else, and it has noting to do with boxes or making judgements it is simply hilighting the facts as you have laid them out.

And you seem to seek the moral high ground and keep getting caught out, you even protest on a bareback thread yet have feedback yourself for bareback.

[Wayang]

Like i just said it was a few weeks before my birthday seriously! When i say it was a means to an end what i ment was that i would not have been able to create a AW profile if i had not said i was 17 not that i knew it were illegal. Im not really bothered about anything more you have to say as like i said i respect my clients and i am an honest indiviual and you james do not know anything about me, you are just putting me in the box with all the other WGs. And this is proberly the 20th time ive said this but i also have my ID on me now 24.7.

Have you ever thought of investing some of your fees in remedial spoken and written English?   Bluntly, if you talk as you write, like I said one two-minute chat on the 'phone and you would be history.

[TeenKylie]

Have you ever thought of investing some of your fees in remedial spoken and written English?   Bluntly, if you talk as you write, like I said one two-minute chat on the 'phone and you would be history.

Why am i being insulted on my spelling and gramar again? Its pointless and i have said several times that yes my spelling  is poor but i am actually very well spoken. Why are you focusing on that and not what is actually being said?

[TeenKylie]

No one is "putting you in a box" you simply stated how you don't lie and I pointed out that you stated you were 18 when you were 17, that is YOUR words not mine nor anyone else, and it has noting to do with boxes or making judgements it is simply hilighting the facts as you have laid them out.

And you seem to seek the moral high ground and keep getting caught out, you even protest on a bareback thread yet have feedback yourself for bareback.

Excuse me? You can see that is obviously from someone that was triying to make me look bad and all my other feedback proves that. Why can you not just accept that yes i may of told a white lie but on a general basis i am an honest person and also i would certainly never see a client BB!
I don't understand what the hell your problem is with me seriously!

[James999]

Excuse me? You can see that is obviously from someone that was triying to make me look bad. Why can you not just accept that yes i may of told a white lie but on a general basis i am an honest person and also i would certainly never see a client BB!

The feedback was form a respected punter with reasoably high feedback,

And saying you are 18 when offering paid sex at 17 is not a "white lie" it is a blatemt lie that has serious repurcussions for Webmasters / clients and indeed whoever took your pictures.

You keep telling us how honest you are but then your own words and profile trip you up 

[TeenKylie]

The feedback was form a respected punter with reasoably high feedback,

And saying you are 18 when offering paid sex at 17 is not a "white lie" it is a blatemt lie that has serious repurcussions for Webmasters / clients and indeed whoever took your pictures.

You keep telling us how honest you are but then your own words and profile trip you up 

You are just a horrible person in general and i would not talk like you do to people period! The booking was never confirmed and you can see that. I had never even met the man. And what a lie! He is the one with several negitive feedbacks saying hes a bullshiter not me with over 30 possitive reviews! I am not going to carry this on with you anymore because i know who i am and i know the truth and i also know that someone like you will just keep triying there best to get to me because thats what you enjoy.

[James999]

So someone gives you feedback for bareback, I read it and that makes it my fault, you lie about your age and put clients etc at risk, again it's my fault, there seems to be a pattern emerging here, that whatever you seem to do wrong is someone elses fault, you entered the debate about bareback and have feedback for bareback so it is natural to discuss it.

You seem to be happy with discussing matters as long as it fits with your agenda and everyone believes everything you say and ignores any lies you may have told, very odd behaviour.

[TeenKylie]

So someone gives you feedback for bareback, I read it and that makes it my fault, you lie about your age and put clients etc at risk, again it's my fault, there seems to be a pattern emerging here, that whatever you seem to do wrong is someone elses fault, you entered the debate about bareback and have feedback for bareback so it is natural to discuss it.

You seem to be happy with discussing matters as long as it fits with your agenda and everyone believes everything you say and ignores any lies you may have told, very odd behaviour.

You know exacaly what your triying to do. Its not your fault but i have just told you the booking was never confirmed and that it is bullshit and you can see that, you have eyes don't you? And the next guy confirming that is somthing i never do. For all i know it was proberly someone from here! Those few weeks where i said i was 18 when i was not oh my god yes i am so sorry! It was such a nasty thing to do! Is that all you have on me James? And is that why i deserve your nastiness all the time on here?

[James999]

Why would that guy want to give you feedback for bareback (and label himself as a barebacker) if it did not take place?

Have you actually seen anyone from this site yet?

[TeenKylie]

Why would that guy want to give you feedback for bareback (and label himself as a barebacker) if it did not take place?

Have you actually seen anyone from this site yet?

You know exacaly why these people do it because they get off on it! Look at the guy who triyed to say i was a fake at the bottom of my feedback for no reason when i first started and now look at all the possitive reviews i have!  Why have i got to be the one that is lieing AGAIN when im actually not?? I wish! And even if i had its not like they are actually going to do a possitive right up me is it?

[James999]

You know exacaly why these people do it because they get off on it!

I don't see any evidence of him being the type to "get off on it" as he has numerous positive feedbacks, ,as for your other negative feedback you have that's not the point here, we are discussing the guy who said he had bareback with you, he was being positive, it also reflects on him as a barebacker, so why would he write it if not true.

And if it was nto true why did you nto get AW to remove it?

[TeenKylie]

I don't see any evidence of him being the type to "get off on it" as he has numerous positive feedbacks, ,as for your other negative feedback you have that's not the point here, we are discussing the guy who said he had bareback with you, he was being positive, it also reflects on him as a barebacker, so why would he write it if not true.

And if it was nto true why did you nto get AW to remove it?

Oh my fucking god!    Look at my feedack compared to his! The only reason you are believing this guy over me is because he is a bloddy punter and thats what you do! Any sane person can see its bullshit and if they came to vist me and offered me extra £££ they would then see i don't fucking do it! Maybe he made a mistake have you ever thorght of that? because like i said it was not even a confirmed booking and i never met the guy!
Jesus christ! And i stupidly forgot to tick the remove comment bit where AW review it because i was so angry righting a response to it! But im sure you will think thats bullshit aswell.