Deposits to confirm booking?

[Nipper1]

Hi guys. I've noticed couple of ads recently that looked great. Genuine LOOKING ads with genuine pics so contacted the ladies with few basic questions by email. However,they emailed replies saying all was fine, but because of time wasters they required a deposit of £20.

My radar buzzed...do these have scam written all over?

[smiths]

Hi guys. I've noticed couple of ads recently that looked great. Genuine LOOKING ads with genuine pics so contacted the ladies with few basic questions by email. However,they emailed replies saying all was fine, but because of time wasters they required a deposit of £20.

My radar buzzed...do these have scam written all over?

Avoid, very likely to be scams, punting is a pay on the day in front of the WG pastime and has been for all my over 30 years of doing it.

[vorian]

Deposits may not only be a scam, but to me are an indication that the WG is less than professional as they should have the skills and experience to filter the TW out. Or they should at least accept that TW are part of their very well paid job, which should not include affecting the next punter due to previous experience of previous ones. To me in many ways it is the same as the no men of a certain race statement it stinks of being lazy and unprofessional.

[a10]

I've never paid a deposit. It's insecure, not anonymous and how would you get your cash back if they had to cancel? A wire transfer marked "WHORE REFUND"? Fuck that!

The only time I would consider a deposit would be for a heavily reviewed pro$$ie where trusted punters have paid a deposit and had a good experience. I've punted pornstars and WGs with hundreds of positive reviews and not a single one of them have required cash up front.

Stinks of a scam

[Steve2]

Hi guys. I've noticed couple of ads recently that looked great. Genuine LOOKING ads with genuine pics so contacted the ladies with few basic questions by email. However,they emailed replies saying all was fine, but because of time wasters they required a deposit of £20.

My radar buzzed...do these have scam written all over?

AVOID

[vorian]

The only time I would consider a deposit would be for a heavily reviewed pro$$ie where trusted punters have paid a deposit and had a good experience.

I kind of agree with this as I have heard of a well reviewed and respected WG who does ask for a deposit if a punter has cancelled on her on two or more occasions. She never asks for a deposit, the first or second time but if a punter cancels with her on more than one occasion she does then ask for a deposit, I don't know how the practicalities work, I would assume AW vouchers. However she never asks for a deposit the first or second time a punter makes a booking.

[Nipper1]

Ok, as I thought guys. For a bit of fun exchanged a couple polite emails with 'her'.
I asked for a quick 'selfy' of herself for goodwill, nothing saucy...never saw or received a tel no of course...but she replied...'Book an easier girl Hun...thanks for your interest tho'.

Shame...cos profile is right up my street..the ol fella was seriously seriously twitching.
The only thing on the ad that didn't seem right, was stated ht was 5' 5''...but pics look taller to me.
Obviously no feedback or number also.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Shall I report this ad guys?

[a10]

Someone already has by the look of it

[Nipper1]

eh...link still works for me?

[vorian]

Ok, as I thought guys. For a bit of fun exchanged a couple polite emails with 'her'.
I asked for a quick 'selfy' of herself for goodwill, nothing saucy...never saw or received a tel no of course...but she replied...'Book an easier girl Hun...thanks for your interest tho'.

Shame...cos profile is right up my street..the ol fella was seriously seriously twitching.
The only thing on the ad that didn't seem right, was stated ht was 5' 5''...but pics look taller to me.
Obviously no feedback or number also.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Shall I report this ad guys?

I would and see what happens,  it seems her mo is not to engage with the punter at all,  all she has to do to make money is get a deposit one out of fifty times and it is a good living for doing nothing.

[a10]

Someone already has by the look of it

eh...link still works for me?

I was talking about the "the authenticity of this profile" warning across the top of the page 

[Nipper1]

I was talking about the "the authenticity of this profile" warning across the top of the page 

Ah, right. I see. Is that banner a report from a punter then? I assumed it was standard on new adverts.

[vorian]

Ah, right. I see. Is that banner a report from a punter then? I assumed it was standard on new adverts.

That banner always shows on new profiles now unless they have verified AW automatically delete the profile now unless they verify within a certain number of days. Doesn't stop them starting a new one though.

[a10]

That banner always shows on new profiles now unless they have verified AW automatically delete the profile now unless they verify within a certain number of days. Doesn't stop them starting a new one though.

In that case I apologise Nipper, thought that came up when a profile had been reported 

Don't know what the point of reporting to AW is anyway, they won't do anything worthwhile

[smiths]

In that case I apologise Nipper, thought that came up when a profile had been reported 

Don't know what the point of reporting to AW is anyway, they won't do anything worthwhile

A/W do delete some profiles that are reported to them, of course they keep any credits accrued so no skin off their backs to delete if they feel like it.

[Nipper1]

In that case I apologise Nipper, thought that came up when a profile had been reported 

Don't know what the point of reporting to AW is anyway, they won't do anything worthwhile

...and there was me thinking wot a nowty bastard you were...apology accepted.

[Nipper1]

and actually, having reported 2 recent ads for dodgy pics...they were both removed within an hour.

[vorian]

A/W do delete some profiles that are reported to them, of course they keep any credits accrued so no skin off their backs to delete if they feel like it.

I have reported a lot of profiles to AW, some they delete, some they leave up. There does not seem to be any logic behind their actions. Still worth trying imo, might just save one bloke from having a bad punt. 

[Nipper1]

reported ad at 7.45pm...lets see how long to remove...if at all.

[Jerboa]

So she wanted a £20 deposit, for a Incall or Outcall? does sound wrong, and brand new profile.

[NIK]

Anyone who pays a deposit is as daft as anyone who books an overnighter with someone they've never seen before.   

[k]

I always leave a deposit during a successful booking.

[vorian]

I always leave a deposit during a successful booking.

I do hope its a non-returnable one 

[mattylondon]

Hi guys. I've noticed couple of ads recently that looked great. Genuine LOOKING ads with genuine pics so contacted the ladies with few basic questions by email. However,they emailed replies saying all was fine, but because of time wasters they required a deposit of £20.

My radar buzzed...do these have scam written all over?

Not necessarily but some simple advice. Never put down any deposit. Ever. 

[wristjob]

Give them your "deposit" at the end of the punt


I figure it's not hard to grab some pics from somewhere, set up a fake profile and see how much you can blag. As much as you want them to be real they likely aren't. If she wants the business she wouldn't be making clients jump through hoops.

[GeeWiz]

I did £20 once for a girl I really wanted to see who had lots of good feedback.  She had to travel for an hour and buy a train ticket.  Saw me at half her usual rate - which is now our going rate - so it was a risk worth taking.

[gorge]

Give them your "deposit" at the end of the punt

.. all over her face

[Nipper1]

reported ad for taking deposits with no intention to supply services...and here is AW's reply to my complaint...

Reply via: External Link/Members Only

Hello

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

AdultWork.com plays no part in the arrangement or payment of Escort
related bookings and we do not have a facility for booking deposits.

We provide a place where those that do can advertise their services and
correspond with like minded persons.

Members enter into booking deposit schemes at their own risk. You have
taken the correct course of action by taking the time to read the ratings
and we encourage all members to do the same.

If you are concerned about the authenticity of any member, you may wish to
read the useful information given on the Authentic Member? link at the
bottom of any profile.

Regards

The AdultWork.com Team

So draw your own conclusions from that. If any one wishes to report the ad for something else...be my guest.

[vorian]

reported ad for taking deposits with no intention to supply services...and here is AW's reply to my complaint...

Reply via: External Link/Members Only

Hello

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

AdultWork.com plays no part in the arrangement or payment of Escort
related bookings and we do not have a facility for booking deposits.

We provide a place where those that do can advertise their services and
correspond with like minded persons.

Members enter into booking deposit schemes at their own risk. You have
taken the correct course of action by taking the time to read the ratings
and we encourage all members to do the same.

If you are concerned about the authenticity of any member, you may wish to
read the useful information given on the Authentic Member? link at the
bottom of any profile.

Regards

The AdultWork.com Team

So draw your own conclusions from that. If any one wishes to report the ad for something else...be my guest.

Well done for making the effort, if more people did perhaps a small difference could be made, maybe, maybe not. Should'nt stop people trying however.

If she doesn't verify her profile within a week or so AW will delete it anyway, making a nice profit for themselves in the mean time. I would suspect that this person will pop up from time to time with a new profile indicating a scam. Lets just hope that only a few punters get caught out and at least UKP members will be more informed about this profile than most due to this thread.

[jammiedodger1]

the same pics were very recently on a profile in staffordshire which i'd looked at a couple of times and thought maybe, don't think i'll bother now though

[jammiedodger1]

Deposits may not only be a scam, but to me are an indication that the WG is less than professional as they should have the skills and experience to filter the TW out. Or they should at least accept that TW are part of their very well paid job, which should not include affecting the next punter due to previous experience of previous ones. To me in many ways it is the same as the no men of a certain race statement it stinks of being lazy and unprofessional.

maybe it's me being fluffy but this strikes me as a bit harsh as surely wgs are allowed to have personal tastes too? i would not see an asian or black prossie because i simply don't find them attractive, doesn't make me nick griffin and really i think its better for a wg to state this on her profile than turn a punter away at the door on the basis of race or give them a crap punt/reduced services because of it, more honesty from wgs on their profiles not less is the way to go, on the deposit question no way in hell would i risk being scammed in this way and requesting it i do find unprofessional

[vorian]

maybe it's me being fluffy but this strikes me as a bit harsh as surely wgs are allowed to have personal tastes too? i would not see an asian or black prossie because i simply don't find them attractive, doesn't make me nick griffin and really i think its better for a wg to state this on her profile than turn a punter away at the door on the basis of race or give them a crap punt/reduced services because of it, more honesty from wgs on their profiles not less is the way to go, on the deposit question no way in hell would i risk being scammed in this way and requesting it i do find unprofessional

I am not commenting on personal choice but business sense. Being a prossie is not about having to be attracted to the punter,  I am under no illusion and I assume most punters aren't that the WG is in any way attracted to me, it is simply a business transaction. So if a prossie states no blacks then she is being lazy as she could use all the normal security procedures and of course trust her "Spider Sense" as they say on SAAFE no person with any intelligence would refuse customers on mass due to a stereotype as they should be able to filter out any one unpleasant or who they do not wish to see anyway.  Thus imho it is lazy and shows a lack of business sense.  Of course in some cases particularly with some EE prossies simply culturally racist. I am not personally attracted to black or asian WG but as the consumer I have that choice. Please tell me any business that excludes a potential customer based on their race. Yes it would be illegal to do so in modern society and rightly so, but it would also be a poor business practice.

[jammiedodger1]

point taken but speaking as someone who does run my own business (don't want to be too specific but i'm a building professional) and has had occasional problems with both extracting payment from and being disrespected by asian customers i would be more wary about accepting work from that particular group of people if the difficulties i've experienced became more frequent, this aside obviously i acknowledge that punting is a business but by its nature its an unusually intimate one and as such preferences will naturally creep in, as i said i'd think that a wg stating this up front on her profile would be preferable to turning someone away at the door which does happen or performing poorly due to a race preference which is almost as bad

[like_mature]

Twice I've paid a deposit to different WG and twice they have cancelled on me with lame excuses. Both times I've got the deposit back with no trouble (strongly worded text messages) but I'm guessing I'm lucky and its not a risk I will take again. The reason I was happy to pay was because both had to travel a distance to see me, one even sent me pictures of the train tickets! still made no difference so in my experience deposits are a waste of time.

[vorian]

point taken but speaking as someone who does run my own business (don't want to be too specific but i'm a building professional) and has had occasional problems with both extracting payment from and being disrespected by asian customers i would be more wary about accepting work from that particular group of people if the difficulties i've experienced became more frequent, this aside obviously i acknowledge that punting is a business but by its nature its an unusually intimate one and as such preferences will naturally creep in, as i said i'd think that a wg stating this up front on her profile would be preferable to turning someone away at the door which does happen or performing poorly due to a race preference which is almost as bad

Wary, yes but would you exclude all asians from doing business with you.  You may put more safeguards in place but would you be likely just to say no asians because you could not be bothered to follow these safeguards through.

[GeeWiz]

I won't see blondes.  Brunettes, Asian and black girls only for me.

[jammiedodger1]

Wary, yes but would you exclude all asians from doing business with you.  You may put more safeguards in place but would you be likely just to say no asians because you could not be bothered to follow these safeguards through.

granted i probably wouldn't completely exclude any race, but my business is very different from a wgs i just feel that with a profession that requires such intimate contact then preferences as regards race, age, build etc are bound to crop up as even a working girl is entitled to personal taste etc, my main point is that its better for them to be up front about it rather than lie on their profile as enough of that goes on already

[vorian]

granted i probably wouldn't completely exclude any race, but my business is very different from a wgs i just feel that with a profession that requires such intimate contact then preferences as regards race, age, build etc are bound to crop up as even a working girl is entitled to personal taste etc, my main point is that its better for them to be up front about it rather than lie on their profile as enough of that goes on already

I agree with your main point,  it is very important to have an honest and accurate profile. I do however believe that one of the reasons a WG gets paid so much money to so she can put aside personal preference,  that should be kept for her personal life. I am paying her for her ability to act as though she is attracted to me and she should be professional enough to do this irrespective of a person's race. For example how many WG bare truly attracted to other women but most will still have a duo. Also what about disabled punters, I simply feel the very best WG will be able to set aside matters of race and focus on the punter as an individual. Personally as I originally said,  a no blacks policy to me would be an indicator that I would take into account in the same way as how much effort has been put into a profile or her communication.

[single sword]

I booked to see a WG just before Xmas,she wanted a £30 deposit in case a no show.Was a little uneasy with this(suspicious is not the right word) but all comms seemed genuine so took a chance...possibly the best decision I ever made. Outstanding woman,outstanding service.
She said I wouldn't have to pay deposit again now that we had met,I must look trustworthy.
Unfortunately she's gone now.
Yes,there are some scammers out there but the odd genuine girl as well,I guess you just have to go with your instincts.

[Corus Boy]

Never paid one, doubt I ever will.

Too much chance of being scammed.

[jammiedodger1]

I agree with your main point,  it is very important to have an honest and accurate profile. I do however believe that one of the reasons a WG gets paid so much money to so she can put aside personal preference,  that should be kept for her personal life. I am paying her for her ability to act as though she is attracted to me and she should be professional enough to do this irrespective of a person's race. For example how many WG bare truly attracted to other women but most will still have a duo. Also what about disabled punters, I simply feel the very best WG will be able to set aside matters of race and focus on the punter as an individual. Personally as I originally said,  a no blacks policy to me would be an indicator that I would take into account in the same way as how much effort has been put into a profile or her communication.

agree in the main but do think its asking a bit much for someone to completely put aside their preferences as these are deep seated and beyond most peoples control, i'm lucky enough to be able to spend between £400/£500 per week on punting without it denting my finances and so see many girls on multiple occasions a couple of these have admitted to me that while they don't see coloured guys they don't bother to put it on their profile simply telling the unfortunate punters when they turn up, i'd be fuming if this happened to me and one even went so far as to tell me that she'd see them if she was struggling for money on a particular week but wouldn't perform her regular services for them - owo, facials and cim which she excels at, just think that honesty on profiles is a better way to go

[Dani]

agree in the main but do think its asking a bit much for someone to completely put aside their preferences as these are deep seated and beyond most peoples control, i'm lucky enough to be able to spend between £400/£500 per week on punting without it denting my finances and so see many girls on multiple occasions a couple of these have admitted to me that while they don't see coloured guys they don't bother to put it on their profile simply telling the unfortunate punters when they turn up, i'd be fuming if this happened to me and one even went so far as to tell me that she'd see them if she was struggling for money on a particular week but wouldn't perform her regular services for them - owo, facials and cim which she excels at, just think that honesty on profiles is a better way to go

I agree it is better to be honest but if you are talking about a prossie not seeing a set of people because she is not attracted to them then if she was being really honest she would also say, no men over 50, no fat men, no graying or balding men, no hairy men, no ugly men, no fat men, no skinny men.  If it is personal preference to who she fancies then she would have very few clients

I probably fancy about 1 in a 100 of the guys I see and that would mean excluding 99% of my business for personal fancy.  It has nothing to do with not being attracted to people of a certain colour but a dislike or distrust of people of that colour.  I agree it is much better to put it on a profile rather than turn them away at the door as it saves wasting their time and putting herself in a dangerous situation but at least be honest about why if we are talking about honesty.  The old I was attacked by a person of this colour so I will no longer see them is accusing everyone of that colour of being a future attacker.  That is being racist as they, like all of us in this job will likely be attacked or robbed or even messed about by white men more often than any other colour yet don't accuse all white men of being future attackers.

I am all for girls to see who they choose as is our right but be honest about why.

I was not sure about seeing black or Asians when I first started and had just moved up here because I came from a very small village and town that was all white middle class and was quite sheltered and had not been around other cultures so was nervous but I stated this on my profile and through being honest I got to talk to some lovely black and Asian men who are now regular clients.  Honesty often works in your favour

[jammiedodger1]

yes honesty is the way to go and i do see that if many wgs were to exclude everyone they didn't fancy then they wouldn't get as much custom but theres a difference i think between a punter being tolerable to a wg and one who turns them off completely, i for instance would find it very hard to even perform with a black girl just on the basis of not being at all attracted and at least 2 of the girls i mentioned in the previous post have pretty much said to me that they find asian men repulsive (their words not mine) whichever theres enough girls out there for all of us regardless of race and i for one am very glad of it 

[Dani]

We all find some men repulsive but after a few minutes find something about them that is nice to concentrate on.  I don't understand how someone can find all Asian men repulsive as some are damned hot as they are not all short, dumpy with loads of facial hair some are actually bloody gorgeous and I don't fancy Asian men either but that last one I saw was just WOW!!
Again to be repulsed by a whole race of people is being racist as it cant be repulsed just on looks due to every person looking so different to the next one.  IT has to be about their race as a whole.  Christ some dont even look Asian but look like tanned mediteranean
and the girl would not even have a clue they were Asian. 

Most people don't realise I am half Asian either and it only really shows if I get a tan which I don't really do and when some guys find out they say oh if I had known beforehand I would not have seen you as I am not attracted to Asian women and as they chose to see me from liking my photos I find that a bit ridiculous especially as they were attracted to me right up until they found out

[jammiedodger1]

that is a little stupid i must admit as if they fancied you before knowing then i'd find it hard to see why they didn't fancy you after, i guess for some people just the though of sleeping with someone of a different race is a no go, for me i simply don't find black girls attractive nothing to do with being racist or disliking them for any other reason, as for the 2 girls i specifically mentioned i won't be detailing their profiles as its up to them how they run their respective businesses but they both operate in the northwest where there isn't a large asian prescence so they probably don't have to turn away business very often, not for me to condemn or condone, live and let live is my general motto

[Glader]

I've only
Ever paid a deposit once and it was £100 for an overnight but this was due to the fact I was traveling quite a few hours and more of an incentive on my end.

It was removed from the total
Amount and there was never any issues.

It's more suitable for longer or overnight bookings but for a short one I would never recommend.

I'm sure I recall some adverts for mobile phone credit in the same way which is weird

[tigertiger]

SCAM! - never leave a deposit if the lady asks for a bank transfer or anything this smells of a scam no matter who the lady is - why she asking for a deposit?!?