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[Jacobkim]

Not in my experience 

What was your experience ? If you would not mind me asking 

[mgkerx]

Theres no girls looking for sex right now and I doubt there will be in future. I remember before the lockdown every girl wanted £500 ppm now they have all vanished and its just the online arrangement brigade left.

Not sure where you got your numbers from most girls I was in touch with and saw, prior to lockdown were in the £200ppm mark
Of course they started asking more hoping some mug will pay crazy amounts but in reality most settle for less
Re post lockdown I actually think there will be an abundance of girls for the following reasons
Most girls would have spent the last 3 months living of minimum income and will be keen to start earning some cash again and and few meets at £200 for a PPM is nearly like a whole months support package
Two there won't be many jobs around as firms will hold back on rehiring for a while
The hospitality industry will be one of the last to go back to work so there will be loads of part-time waitresses looking for Top ups (pun intended)
I am generalising but possibly loads more girls joining the SA brigade as less of a Moral jump than joining AW

[Cunning Punt]

Theres no girls looking for sex right now and I doubt there will be in future. I remember before the lockdown every girl wanted £500 ppm

You couldn't be more wrong on both fronts.

most girls I was in touch with and saw, prior to lockdown were in the £200ppm mark

Re post lockdown I actually think there will be an abundance of girls

But absolutely spot on, on both fronts.

However, it's worth watching out for those girls who are a bit too focused on money, not fun, or seem like they'll pester you for more regular meets than you want, and even money inbetween meets, because they are looking to you as a cash cow.

[mgkerx]

Cheers Cunning Punt

[Steve2]

What was your experience ? If you would not mind me asking 

Tell you what, I'll do you a deal. You break your review duck after six years and I will share some with you. Fair enough?

[MrMatrix]

What was your experience ? If you would not mind me asking 

Been a member here nearly 6 years and no review and not a lot else.

I think Steves response is quite measured as I dont think you are a punter- I think you are just curious and I think you should fuck off as you clearly have NO intention of doing a review or contributing

[Steve2]

I was feeling kind Mr M but you are right 

[Cunning Punt]

Been a member here nearly 6 years and no review and not a lot else.

I think Steves response is quite measured as I dont think you are a punter- I think you are just curious and I think you should fuck off as you clearly have NO intention of doing a review or contributing

Very firm but entirely fair. 

[tomato sauce and waffles]

I've made an arrangement with a 20 year old student. We've met twice since late Feburary. We were going to meet for a third time but due to the Covid19 situation we stopped. Surprisingly, she's been keeping in contact with me since the start of the lockdown (our conversation consist of mundane topics like food, diet, exercise, books and etc). I suspected that she's only doing that to ask me for money, but she still hasn't asked me for anything this whole time. It took me three months to find her, but it was worth. She's what I wanted look and personality wise. Apparently, I'm the only one she's seeing. I have no way of knowing if this is true, if it is, then lucky me.

I've got a question, I've been seeing at hotel for 3 hours. If I invite her to my place, would she be likely to want to spend longer or stay the night at my place?

[Spencer Fobby]

I've made an arrangement with a 20 year old student. We've met twice since late Feburary. We were going to meet for a third time but due to the Covid19 situation we stopped. Surprisingly, she's been keeping in contact with me since the start of the lockdown (our conversation consist of mundane topics like food, diet, exercise, books and etc). I suspected that she's only doing that to ask me for money, but she still hasn't asked me for anything this whole time. It took me three months to find her, but it was worth. She's what I wanted look and personality wise. Apparently, I'm the only one she's seeing. I have no way of knowing if this is true, if it is, then lucky me.

I've got a question, I've been seeing at hotel for 3 hours. If I invite her to my place, would she be likely to want to spend longer or stay the night at my place?

Why don't you ask her?

[MrMatrix]

I've made an arrangement with a 20 year old student. We've met twice since late Feburary. We were going to meet for a third time but due to the Covid19 situation we stopped. Surprisingly, she's been keeping in contact with me since the start of the lockdown (our conversation consist of mundane topics like food, diet, exercise, books and etc). I suspected that she's only doing that to ask me for money, but she still hasn't asked me for anything this whole time. It took me three months to find her, but it was worth. She's what I wanted look and personality wise. Apparently, I'm the only one she's seeing. I have no way of knowing if this is true, if it is, then lucky me.

I've got a question, I've been seeing at hotel for 3 hours. If I invite her to my place, would she be likely to want to spend longer or stay the night at my place?

Where have you been. Some one was asking about you yesterday????  Please to see your back.

If you are a single man the risks are obviously less. What is the age difference if I may ask?
I think you need to keep your identity and address to yourself, personally. Its not something I'd been keen on sharing especially if you hit a bunny boiler. Is this really a risk worth taking, its cost you little to date.

[CheeseBoard]

I've made an arrangement with a 20 year old student. We've met twice since late Feburary. We were going to meet for a third time but due to the Covid19 situation we stopped. Surprisingly, she's been keeping in contact with me since the start of the lockdown (our conversation consist of mundane topics like food, diet, exercise, books and etc). I suspected that she's only doing that to ask me for money, but she still hasn't asked me for anything this whole time. It took me three months to find her, but it was worth. She's what I wanted look and personality wise. Apparently, I'm the only one she's seeing. I have no way of knowing if this is true, if it is, then lucky me.

I've got a question, I've been seeing at hotel for 3 hours. If I invite her to my place, would she be likely to want to spend longer or stay the night at my place?

Has there been any talk about when you guys would be looking to meet next? Maybe approach the subject and then suggest your place (or hers).
If at yours, pretend you have just arranged a long time with a Thai go go dancer and lock away anything valuable or that you dont want to lose    Only you know the level of trust between you and the SB, so as mentioned if you are single and can do it (and happy with the level of risk) go for it.

The one thing that is a little red flag (to me), is that you've only met twice, so its not something I would do quite yet.  It comes down your your personal risk assessment.  Good luck in what you decide 

[tomato sauce and waffles]

Why don't you ask her?

I don't want to ask her, because then she might ask for more money. I'm hoping it's something that happens naturally.

Where have you been. Some one was asking about you yesterday????  Please to see your back.

If you are a single man the risks are obviously less. What is the age difference if I may ask?
I think you need to keep your identity and address to yourself, personally. Its not something I'd been keen on sharing especially if you hit a bunny boiler. Is this really a risk worth taking, its cost you little to date.

I'm 32, she's 20. She seems okay, doesn't come off as the crazy type.

I haven't been logging in regularly since I'm in an arrangement, so I've stopped punting for now.

[tomato sauce and waffles]

Has there been any talk about when you guys would be looking to meet next? Maybe approach the subject and then suggest your place (or hers).
If at yours, pretend you have just arranged a long time with a Thai go go dancer and lock away anything valuable or that you dont want to lose    Only you know the level of trust between you and the SB, so as mentioned if you are single and can do it (and happy with the level of risk) go for it.

The one thing that is a little red flag (to me), is that you've only met twice, so its not something I would do quite yet.  It comes down your your personal risk assessment.  Good luck in what you decide 

Yes, we talked about meeting after the lockdown. We actually tried to arrange a meet during the lockdown (yeah, I know, that's bad!), but the hotels were either closed or required proof of being an essential worker.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I think it'll be good idea to meet a few more times before deciding to invite her to my place. I only know her through WhatsApp texts at the moment.

[Spencer Fobby]

I don't want to ask her, because then she might ask for more money. I'm hoping it's something that happens naturally.

Just offer it as an option.  Tell her it'll be lovely to wake up beside her, fuck her brains out and then bring her breakfast in bed.  If she wants more money, just say it was just an offer if she wanted to - no big deal. 

[MrMatrix]

I don't want to ask her, because then she might ask for more money. I'm hoping it's something that happens naturally.

I'm 32, she's 20. She seems okay, doesn't come off as the crazy type.

I haven't been logging in regularly since I'm in an arrangement, so I've stopped punting for now.

Dont blame you. I think I'd stay with the arrangement if I was in your shoes. Age differences get smaller as you get older so she quite possibly into you big time. Go and fill yer boots matey

[tomato sauce and waffles]

Just offer it as an option.  Tell her it'll be lovely to wake up beside her, fuck her brains out and then bring her breakfast in bed.  If she wants more money, just say it was just an offer if she wanted to - no big deal.

Good suggestion, thanks.

Dont blame you. I think I'd stay with the arrangement if I was in your shoes. Age differences get smaller as you get older so she quite possibly into you big time. Go and fill yer boots matey

She wanted to meet an older guy, but not too old and not close to her age range and I was one of the few options around. I suspect, in the area, if there were more guys around my age round (30-35), who were a similar build as me and who offered a similar arrangement, I might have been her 6th choice or something.  I got lucky.

[MrMatrix]

Good suggestion, thanks.

She wanted to meet an older guy, but not too old and not close to her age range and I was one of the few options around. I suspect, in the area, if there were more guys around my age round (30-35), who were a similar build as me and who offered a similar arrangement, I might have been her 6th choice or something.  I got lucky.

Actually I know one member, who after an acromonius divorce (she was violent) end up with someone from final year at uni and they now live together, seem really happy and there is a similar age difference to yours. If shes that into you I wouldnt be bothering punting either . Or indeed with the forum come to that.
I'd be sorry to see you go, but put yourself first.

[Cunning Punt]

Yes, we talked about meeting after the lockdown. We actually tried to arrange a meet during the lockdown (yeah, I know, that's bad!), but the hotels were either closed or required proof of being an essential worker.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I think it'll be good idea to meet a few more times before deciding to invite her to my place. I only know her through WhatsApp texts at the moment.

I've had a few girls at my place shortly after meeting. I had a drinks date with all of them to see what they were like but by letting a total stranger know where I live, I have probably taken too much of a risk too soon and meeting for a few times in a hotel before switching to our own home would be advisable. One experience wasn't great and I sent a rather annoyed text which could have backfired if she wanted to cause problems for me.

By the same token, girls I've met on Seeking have had me round at their place shortly after meeting which probably wasn't a good idea on their part.

That said, it's worth noting that there is little difference between taking a girl you've just met on Seeking back to your place and a girl you've pulled at a club or only recently met. With the loss of allowance if you end it, there is the potential for extra annoyance on her part but it's not a good idea to have an arrangement with a SB who is too preoccupied with money anyway.

At the end of the day, only you can make this decision based on your personal circumstances and your judgment over whether this girl is trustworthy and not going to go weird on you.

With hotels shut until at least July, then we have little option - meet at the home of one of you, go for a drive and try to find a quiet spot (difficult in the Metropolis and technically against the rules) or abstain.

[Blu007]

Just a few quick questions, don't mean to be dumb but just new to this.

How come during payment process you are asked to input Biiiling Address and Telephone number?
I thought it would just be a discreet thing or is it just for security as you don't have to register a tel no. to sign up?

Also do you guys use your punting phone for the telephone number?
Do you ever get messages from SA on the phone number used for payment?
And to contact the girls once you have a rapport, do you give them your punting phone number only most of the time?

Just concerned about discretion and having billing address of card and mobile no. linked to the site.

Let me know your thoughts and advice.

[Sparta Prada]

Just a few quick questions, don't mean to be dumb but just new to this.

How come during payment process you are asked to input Biiiling Address and Telephone number?
I thought it would just be a discreet thing or is it just for security as you don't have to register a tel no. to sign up?

Also do you guys use your punting phone for the telephone number?
Do you ever get messages from SA on the phone number used for payment?
And to contact the girls once you have a rapport, do you give them your punting phone number only most of the time?

Just concerned about discretion and having billing address of card and mobile no. linked to the site.

Let me know your thoughts and advice.

It’s been a year since I paid for premium membership on Seeking. Whenever I have subbed I have always paid using my debit card, so I am guessing that the address is requested so it is linked to the credit or debit card used? I can’t recall being asked to supply a phone number but I would give out the punting number.

I have never received any messages from Seeking other than via the email address supplied. I have not received anything through postal mail or via phone messaging from Seeking. Yes they do send emails (so make sure it’s a discreet email address you supply) but I’d imagine you can change how you are notified via the site.

[Cunning Punt]

Good advice.

You can change your notification settings but as said, it's better to have an alternative email and I would always suggest using a punting phone and number for all your sugardating related activities.

As regards payment, a credit card is linked to your address. If you're concerned then you can pay a subscription via a mobile phone using Google Pay.

[shagbambi]

Until recently I was using a prepaid debit card bought at sainsburry/morrisons to pay for my subscription and buy viagra online with the remainder.  They seem to have stopped the 100 pound cards in my area.  Maybe this is throughout the UK, so am using 50 pound cards to top up a google wallet on my punting phone.  Then using my punting phone pay for the subscription.  Its cumbersome and more expensive but it gives me a veneer of anonymity with the site.

[onaleash]

I've had a few girls at my place shortly after meeting. I had a drinks date with all of them to see what they were like but by letting a total stranger know where I live, I have probably taken too much of a risk too soon and meeting for a few times in a hotel before switching to our own home would be advisable. One experience wasn't great and I sent a rather annoyed text which could have backfired if she wanted to cause problems for me.

By the same token, girls I've met on Seeking have had me round at their place shortly after meeting which probably wasn't a good idea on their part.

That said, it's worth noting that there is little difference between taking a girl you've just met on Seeking back to your place and a girl you've pulled at a club or only recently met. With the loss of allowance if you end it, there is the potential for extra annoyance on her part but it's not a good idea to have an arrangement with a SB who is too preoccupied with money anyway.

At the end of the day, only you can make this decision based on your personal circumstances and your judgment over whether this girl is trustworthy and not going to go weird on you.

With hotels shut until at least July, then we have little option - meet at the home of one of you, go for a drive and try to find a quiet spot (difficult in the Metropolis and technically against the rules) or abstain.

Bad bad bad idea mate.. you don't know how that could backfire! I've had a problem recently from a girl from over five, YES FIVE years ago. Always play it super safe, it's just not worth the risk. You might not have a wife or partner now, but you may in the future and you don't want this stuff coming back to haunt you!

[Cunning Punt]

Bad bad bad idea mate.. you don't know how that could backfire! I've had a problem recently from a girl from over five, YES FIVE years ago. Always play it super safe, it's just not worth the risk. You might not have a wife or partner now, but you may in the future and you don't want this stuff coming back to haunt you!

Five years is a long time to hold a grudge, sounds like a bit more personal than a loss of ppm/allowance.

It's worth noting that guys have had bad experiences with past girlfriends/wives and girls they've pulled, taken back to their place and later dumped. It's not exclusive to girls on Seeking and thankfully rare - either guys are unlucky, didn't handle the break-up very well or a bit of both.

In any case, I wasn't saying taking a SB back to one's place is a good or bad idea, I was just summarising my experience and pros & cons to consider. I made clear that only the OP could make the decision based on his personal circumstances and judgment.

[DeanoDeano]

Totally agree with your comments CP.

Yet again the difference between seeing girls from SA and actual brasses is being totally misunderstood.

 

[Blu007]

New to this so got loads of questions:

How do you guys initially make contact, do you try to build a conversation or just get straight to the point of negotiating a arrangement? What's your experience like with what works

Also I have seen on a website however true that the average seeking male earns over 100K a yr and has ammassed a huge wealth, do you think this data is from an extremely small % of guys that have 10's of millions which kind of moves the average up from the reality of the average guy?

Do you guys ever use an App called Kik to communicate with girls?

I guess pre-lock down and post  lockdown would be different scenarios as a lot of them want online gifts without even viewing your profile.

More questions to come..
Thanks for any potential assistance

[Tokidoe]

Also I have seen on a website however true that the average seeking male earns over 100K a yr and has ammassed a huge wealth, do you think this data is from an extremely small % of guys that have 10's of millions which kind of moves the average up from the reality of the average guy?
I guess pre-lock down and post  lockdown would be different scenarios as a lot of them want online gifts without even viewing your profile.

I think you shouldnt worry about the wealth aspect too much but there is a wall to entry, mostly with time investment as you’d:

1. Pay for membership
2. Commit to trying to find a girl for the right price
3. Potentially hosting a place to stay for a night or two

Girls I’ve messaged before have asked for £200 minimum through chat, but when it came down in person this became lower at times or even if you’re lucky a potential freebie. First impression counts for when you do eventually meet them, similar to online dating (in my experience). Although it may vary since I’m in my late 20s. Drop em a line, see what they're interested in, make an offer, and see if they bite

[Blu007]

I think you shouldnt worry about the wealth aspect too much but there is a wall to entry, mostly with time investment as you’d:

1. Pay for membership
2. Commit to trying to find a girl for the right price
3. Potentially hosting a place to stay for a night or two

Girls I’ve messaged before have asked for £200 minimum through chat, but when it came down in person this became lower at times or even if you’re lucky a potential freebie. First impression counts for when you do eventually meet them, similar to online dating (in my experience). Although it may vary since I’m in my late 20s. Drop em a line, see what they're interested in, make an offer, and see if they bite

Thanks for info, but do you message about amount per hour (make offers) on the messaging system or through phone messaging.
At the moment it's all about online gifts so not into that but potential rapport to build up for after lockdown is cool for actual meet.

[Tokidoe]

Thanks for info, but do you message about amount per hour (make offers) on the messaging system or through phone messaging.
At the moment it's all about online gifts so not into that but potential rapport to build up for after lockdown is cool for actual meet.

In my experience to not waste time and personal info, I just use the chat to gauge how much she expects, after that, probably get a form of their social media they use, snap or IG, then the number. Just my experience, which can be quite a lengthy process.

A ridiculous offer/amount is a straight up nothx, next.

[Paris69]

New to this so got loads of questions:

How do you guys initially make contact, do you try to build a conversation or just get straight to the point of negotiating a arrangement? What's your experience like with what works

Also I have seen on a website however true that the average seeking male earns over 100K a yr and has ammassed a huge wealth, do you think this data is from an extremely small % of guys that have 10's of millions which kind of moves the average up from the reality of the average guy?

Do you guys ever use an App called Kik to communicate with girls?

I guess pre-lock down and post  lockdown would be different scenarios as a lot of them want online gifts without even viewing your profile.

More questions to come..
Thanks for any potential assistance

Some advice, for post-lockdown would be:
Move the conversation to WhatsApp asap (ask the girl if she wants to do this...most genuine SB's do). Making sexual suggestions/asking for a PPM to the wrong girl on the SA forum may get you banned.

Don't use KiK

If you don't want long, drawn out conversations and don't ant to pit the work in...simply tell the prospective SB that you have done PPM's Short and Long Term arrangements. Ask what they are looking for and if S/t or L/t roughly what type of support they are looking for (support means ££).
The amount you pay is down to your individual perspective and finances.

The average SD obviously has some cash to spare; but the amount varies person to person.
To give you an idea, i've done £150 PPM's to £250 overnighter's to actually living with my SB (who then cost me £000,s pm)...... (more details of this don't need sharing here)...

For more advice; I'm happy to take PM's but all i'd say is i can talk about my experience and that everyone is different... No-one is an 'expert'....

[DeanoDeano]

If you want a messaging app that provides anonymity and not a phone number, check out telegram rather than kik.

[Cunning Punt]

Don't use KiK

Second this. Alarm bells ring when someone on SA steers me towards kik as they are generally prossies, scammers or timewasters. I say someone because some will be guys behind fake profiles. One has to question what they have to hide and why they don't want to give out a number.

It is much easier to communicate via WhatsApp and all genuine SBs and SDs on SA are on it. Just remember to use your PUNTING PHONE when communicating with anyone on SA.

And I wouldn't blame for girls for having a burner SIM either - and even suggested that to some genuine, nervous, naïve ones who were steering me towards kik.

[Blu007]

Thanks for info guys.
So have you ever used Tinder and what would be the real difference apart from it being cheaper and branding is not high class like SA?
I downloaded in months ago, free version, there were loads of attractive women, but then just deleted the app. 
Just trying to see whether I would be better of trying that than SA if there are nice women you can get on wth but also have fun with.

[xyfek]

Thanks for info guys.
So have you ever used Tinder and what would be the real difference apart from it being cheaper and branding is not high class like SA?
I downloaded in months ago, free version, there were loads of attractive women, but then just deleted the app. 
Just trying to see whether I would be better of trying that than SA if there are nice women you can get on wth but also have fun with.

Tinder is primarily for hookups/dating, and very much looks based. So, if you're not a toned Adonis out of Love Island I wouldn't bother.

SA is for money based arrangements. If your wallet trumps your looks, I'd say stick with that.

[MrMatrix]

Tinder is primarily for hookups/dating, and very much looks based. So, if you're not a toned Adonis out of Love Island I wouldn't bother.

SA is for money based arrangements. If your wallet trumps your looks, I'd say stick with that.

Fuck, thats me out of the running. My 6 pack looks more like a party 7 this day and age

[Hantsolo]

Second this. Alarm bells ring when someone on SA steers me towards kik as they are generally prossies, scammers or timewasters. I say someone because some will be guys behind fake profiles. One has to question what they have to hide and why they don't want to give out a number.

It is much easier to communicate via WhatsApp and all genuine SBs and SDs on SA are on it. Just remember to use your PUNTING PHONE when communicating with anyone on SA.

And I wouldn't blame for girls for having a burner SIM either - and even suggested that to some genuine, nervous, naïve ones who were steering me towards kik.

Totally agree. As an example, started chatting to a girl on Kik on Sunday, seemed to be going well as the messages were pretty constant (and nothing filthy or swapping photos etc) said to her yesterday that I’d like to chat on the phone as it’s good to hear the voice of the other person.....

And just like that “she” vanishes!

Kik is a complete waste of time.

[Cunning Punt]

Tinder is primarily for hookups/dating, and very much looks based. So, if you're not a toned Adonis out of Love Island I wouldn't bother.

+1000

With these swipe dating sites, and certainly Tinder, there are so many profiles that people make an instant decision. Therefore, you have to be good looking and relatively young. Hardly anyone bothers to read a profile to see if they think you've got a "nice personality" even though they don't instantly fancy you.

Even if you do get a match, chances are they won't reply to a message or at least not 2; it's easy for them to get distracted by better looking and younger guys.

The numbers are not in our favour as there are more guys actively seeking girls, plus are willing to chase ugly birds, so you effectively have most male members chasing a small proportion of girls.

A lot of girls aren't actually active on Tinder; they just 'park' profiles on there and direct you to their Insta account, either because they prefer that method of contact (in which case you're probably still competing with lots of others) or they just want followers and have no real interest in hooking up with random guys.

Even if the good looking chaps don't go ahead with meeting less attractive birds, the damage is done because they have distracted them and closed the opportunity for other guys.

I gave Tinder a real go: spent many hundreds of hours over 2/3 months, checking out thousands of profiles and swiping right on most of them, and got nowhere. Got 3 numbers - all wannabe SBs who wanted an allowance; 2 were timewasters and I didn't fancy the other one so binned her.

SA is reliable and actually involves less time spent.

[Sparta Prada]

Kik is a complete waste of time.

100% agree.

Having said that, when I initially joined SA one of the first SBs I met was this young Middle Eastern student nurse who insisted on doing comms via Kik only. She was genuine, we did meet up, she was bloody gorgeous, and excellent in the sack.

However every other girl who has asked to communicate by Kik has never resulted in a meet. Not saying they are necessarily a scammer, but presumably have something to hide? You certainly can’t have a voice call on Kik, and that’s a prerequisite for me ahead of meeting anyone on Seeking.

[heathen666]

100% agree.

Having said that, when I initially joined SA one of the first SBs I met was this young Middle Eastern student nurse who insisted on doing comms via Kik only. She was genuine, we did meet up, she was bloody gorgeous, and excellent in the sack.

However every other girl who has asked to communicate by Kik has never resulted in a meet. Not saying they are necessarily a scammer, but presumably have something to hide? You certainly can’t have a voice call on Kik, and that’s a prerequisite for me ahead of meeting anyone on Seeking.

If someone insists on using kik I ask them to record a video with in app camera, this must show their face and say three numbers, if they can't do this in a minute then I block them.

More often or not scammers try to claim they can't record, or ask to do a (photoshopped) photo instead.

I've only had one successful meet from Kik, all the others are time wasters.

[pa5151]

Any girl who asks me to use Kik gets an immediate block.

They must be all reading the same “how to be a hardened whore” blog in their university dorms on how to keep anonymity. Besides that Kik is a pile of shit developed by Canadian scammers also responsible for the Kin cryptocurrency and are currently battling the SEC in court. It was supposed to shut down last year before being bought out. Some girls are now sharing their snapchat. They aren’t sophisticated enough to use Telegram or something more anonymous like Signal. Until a blog comes out telling them to do so that is.

I’ve been on SA for five years now never met even one girl from Kik, but met hundreds from Whatsapp. Even met one girl who wouldn’t give me her number (21 year old French girl who stayed the night). Barely ever meet for a second date because they are fickle as fuck.

[Strikar]

Until recently I was using a prepaid debit card bought at sainsburry/morrisons to pay for my subscription and buy viagra online with the remainder.  They seem to have stopped the 100 pound cards in my area.  Maybe this is throughout the UK, so am using 50 pound cards to top up a google wallet on my punting phone.  Then using my punting phone pay for the subscription.  Its cumbersome and more expensive but it gives me a veneer of anonymity with the site.

Very helpful cheers 👍

[Spencer Fobby]

Barely ever meet for a second date because they are fickle as fuck.

Really?  Not my experience at all.  Takes two to make an arrangement work.

[Strikar]

I haven't used SA in years but when active i met three girls for drinks first (2 I shagged) plus one discreetly who i just shagged in hotels. Around 2015.

It's a lot of effort but you can't beat the excitement of banging a hot young lady. I've stopped due to the risk below as I have a long term partner.

I did bring one girl to my place for convenience but it freaked me out till I moved so I don't recommend this as it may cause unwanted stress and worry.

One of the girls had said she didn't want money just wanted a fuck buddy which was great until I shagged her at hers and she asked for money afterward when I wasn't carrying cash. She got really weird so I left but did transfer cash to her account so I wouldn't have a pissed off girl out there in the world. You never know when you could run into them.

Another girl overheard me giving my name to a courier when they called while I was on my phone then she tracked me on FB. I bumped up the privacy settings immediately but this again was a stress so be careful.

I also advise using WA immediately after contact on SA as the best method for communication.

Currently just punting via incalls to scratch this itch but do miss SA and the fun involved when it works.

[londonhunter008]

Any girl who asks me to use Kik gets an immediate block.

They must be all reading the same “how to be a hardened whore” blog in their university dorms on how to keep anonymity. Besides that Kik is a pile of shit developed by Canadian scammers also responsible for the Kin cryptocurrency and are currently battling the SEC in court. It was supposed to shut down last year before being bought out. Some girls are now sharing their snapchat. They aren’t sophisticated enough to use Telegram or something more anonymous like Signal. Until a blog comes out telling them to do so that is.

I’ve been on SA for five years now never met even one girl from Kik, but met hundreds from Whatsapp. Even met one girl who wouldn’t give me her number (21 year old French girl who stayed the night). Barely ever meet for a second date because they are fickle as fuck.

It can be takes in other sense as well. Just like us regular punters, a "normal girl" (which we all intend to find on SA, otherwise adultwork is better) wont be carrying 2 phones. I wouldn't mind talking on kik first...but would be too careful before sharing personal information...and will not spend days talking to her (and if she is fake, she wont be wasting time either). Ill try to make her feel comfortable...but if she is really interested in real meets...I would recommend to talk to me over phone and will let her decide if she wants to take next step or not. Kik is a secure way to talk for both...but if she is really serious...she will have to eventually talk and meet.  Just blocking someone may also mean that you are missing out on the girl who can actually be real.

For me red flags are:
- Girl with highly photo shopped pics and looks like a gold digger (even if she is real...she is only looking for money and is just high class escort)
- Too beautiful pics but nothing in profile (can be fake man)
- Girl who sends a generic long copy paste message...and share number in first message.
- Over whatsapp or kik....shares naked pics right in the start of conversation without asking (Seems to be in too much rush)...and usually followed by suggestions to transfer money
- These days, any profile created after lock-down (everyone know they cant meet...and most of the girls or fake guys need online money).

The best way is to read profile carefully and see who has tried to put effort to tell something about her (more than information such as she like fine wine and dine, has expensive taste, and like luxury )...because she wants to meet someone who treat her more than an object...and who insist to know a man before starting an arrangement.

[Seasoned Vet]

Imo dont think it worth paying for a membership till at least end of june early July

[londonhunter008]

Imo dont think it worth paying for a membership till at least end of june early July

No. If you want quick real action.
But not bad...if you want to chat online during this lockdown (since you cant meet in person...you can take it to your advantage and try to find girl you can feel some connection). It also keep thing bit exciting, when you  get a surprising semi (or full) nude pics and personalized messages.
In usual circumstance, there is a pressure to meet asap. But now, you can find few girls who doesn't sound professional, keep minimum touch by occasional hello and take your time to pick few whom you want to meet after lockdown.

I usually have 2-3 regular SBs (I tell them that I am looking for long term but want to meet whenever we both are free and agree on per meet allowance)...and with time I keep changing, the ones I get bored with (with a pretext that I am going out of country for few months)...and try new ones. It maintains a good balance...to fall back to tried and tested and bring someone new onboard.

I dont remember when I met a professional escort last. I prefer to spend whole day (or night ) with a SA girl and than an escort.

[pa5151]

SA is dead as fuck at the moment. Sure plenty of girls of there dreaming of money and high valued men, barely any will be leaving the house anytime soon, some are living with family and couldn’t leave the house and others are just prudish cunts. Best to hold off for now anyway. Pointless talking to them they’ll forget about you way before dates are normalised again.

[ik8133]

When you've established that a SB will meet you for fun, do you generally discuss what you might get up to, or want sexually before hand?

[Cunning Punt]

When you've established that a SB will meet you for fun, do you generally discuss what you might get up to, or want sexually before hand?

Well yes otherwise you are taking a big gamble. You are more likely to take a risk and see how things pan out in normal circumstances but you don't want to fork out an allowance for a crap experience or have the awkward situation of trying to withhold the cash if you're not satisfied.

Now of course that doesn't mean it won't still go to shit because girls occasionally lie or have second thoughts about certain activities. But by going through it in advance and deciding whether or not to go ahead based on her replies and how genuine she seems, you have at least increased the chances of having a good experience and reduced the risk of having a shit one.