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[Hobbit]

Look, I guess the whole point of ths thread is for people to share their experiecnes and methods of appraoch (what works well for them). Not everyone will agree with what's being said, which is fine. With that in mind, let's just accept this.

Sure. Deluded it is then. 

[ratedj]

Sure. Deluded it is then. 

Not sure if this comment is in reference to myself or Workinallweek's last post??

[Hobbit]

Not sure if this comment is in reference to myself or Workinallweek's last post??

I'll let you work that one out. Happy new year.   

[ratedj]

I'll let you work that one out. Happy new year.   

  That perhaps sums you up lol. Bro, I don't know you and you don't know me, so it's pretty amusing for you to insinuate that I'm delueded based on you having a diverging opinion to someone else. Contrary to your belief, I'm actually the complete opposite of deluded; I've just learnt that you should'nt always adopt a binary mentality, because you can be somewhat surprised by what you find when you don't. If well-skilled you can actually alter the dynamics. I know, right, such delusional thinking!   

Oh, and happy New Year to you too dude!

[Spencer Fobby]

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge”

[DeanoDeano]

If a woman that accepts money for sex is not an escort then what is she then? Please enlighten us. 

Why does it matter?

The only point being made is that you will do better on seeking if you don’t treat it like adultwork. They’re two different platforms, which serve different purposes for different people.

 

[Hobbit]

That perhaps sums you up lol. Bro, I don't know you and you don't know me, so it's pretty amusing for you to insinuate that I'm delueded based on you having a diverging opinion to someone else. Contrary to your belief, I'm actually the complete opposite of deluded; I've just learnt that you should'nt always adopt a binary mentality, because you can be somewhat surprised by what you find when you don't. If well-skilled you can actually alter the dynamics. I know, right, such delusional thinking!   

Oh, and happy New Year to you too dude!

Nah dude..I'm very simple. For me a spade is a spade and a hooker is a hooker. But I think it's best to agree to disagree on this, otherwise we're going to be discussing this till 2025. 

[Hobbit]

Why does it matter?

The only point being made is that you will do better on seeking if you don’t treat it like adultwork. They’re two different platforms, which serve different purposes for different people.

 

I was referring to Spencer Fobby's statement which he didn't answer.

[Spencer Fobby]

I was referring to Spencer Fobby's statement which he didn't answer.

You don't need to bash your head against a brick wall.  If you'd like a little more help understanding something I said, just ask.

[Spencer Fobby]

If a woman that accepts money for sex is not an escort then what is she then? Please enlighten us. 

So this was an actual question then? I thought it was rhetorical.  It was clear from my earlier post that I'm not challenging your nomenclature.  You can call her what you like, but if you want to call her an escort, she'll probably tell you to fuck off.  Even if in your eyes she is one. 

I guess seeing a world view that differs from your own is challenging for you - even if doing so can bring you far greater rewards than insisting that your view is the correct one. 

[ratedj]

Nah dude..I'm very simple. For me a spade is a spade and a hooker is a hooker. But I think it's best to agree to disagree on this, otherwise we're going to be discussing this till 2025. 

Exactly my point. In this respect we have diverging outlooks and views, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Hobbit]

So this was an actual question then? I thought it was rhetorical.  It was clear from my earlier post that I'm not challenging your nomenclature.  You can call her what you like, but if you want to call her an escort, she'll probably tell you to fuck off.  Even if in your eyes she is one. 

I guess seeing a world view that differs from your own is challenging for you - even if doing so can bring you far greater rewards than insisting that your view is the correct one.

Well No shit Sherlock. If you call a SA girl an escort then she would be pissed because they can't admit they are one. Hence the word deluded. I have had great success on SA, so whatever I'm doing seems to be working. So I'm happy.

I have no issue with other people's different views. It's just when people talk crap I have to ask them to clarify.

[Spencer Fobby]

It's just when people say things I don't understand, I have to ask them to clarify.

corrected for you (without the need for juvenile emojis)

[stampjones]

If a woman that accepts money for sex is not an escort then what is she then? Please enlighten us. 

Not sure whether you are genuinely as thick as you come across or are just trying to start an argument in an empty room? You are arguing with something no-one is saying!
But lets go with it. Your argument is that all prostitutes or escorts or anyone selling sex is exactly the same and should never be treated differently. This ignores our great human capacity to sub-divide any group and have rules that apply at the top level but which can also be overwritten at lower levels. So we all know that dogs are 4-legged things with tails that go woof but if you want a guard dog you’d be well advised to prefer rottweillers to poodles!

Same with prostitutes. There are further categorisations. Or do you treat a rent boy exactly the same as a woman SP? No difference to you, right? They both sell sex! Or let us say we’re only talking females - are you saying there is no difference between a street crack whore willing to bareback whoever comes along for her next fix and a well reviewed high-end agency girl? Good luck with that!

All people here are saying is that SA girls are a different categorisation of prostitute to others. Some rules apply across all groups (willingness to exchange sex for cash) and others dont. One of the things that is unique to this SA category (or at least many of them) is that THEY dont see themselves as escorts. Now before your tiny brain explodes with indignation go back and read that last sentence again. Pay particular attention to the word in capital letters. It doesnt matter what you think or I think or the oxford english dictionary thinks - THEY dont think they are escorts. Now you are perfectly at liberty to contact as many of them as you like and point out the error of their ways - enjoy. But WE dint give a fuck. We can understand the dual concept of accepting money for sex but not thinking you are an escort and work with that to maximise our chances of getting what we want. Otoh your crusade to explain the error of their ways is ironically only likely to prove they are not escorts - at least as far as you’re concerned - as no way will they be fucking you if you actually try that approach

[Hobbit]

Not sure whether you are genuinely as thick as you come across or are just trying to start an argument in an empty room? You are arguing with something no-one is saying!
But lets go with it. Your argument is that all prostitutes or escorts or anyone selling sex is exactly the same and should never be treated differently. This ignores our great human capacity to sub-divide any group and have rules that apply at the top level but which can also be overwritten at lower levels. So we all know that dogs are 4-legged things with tails that go woof but if you want a guard dog you’d be well advised to prefer rottweillers to poodles!

Same with prostitutes. There are further categorisations. Or do you treat a rent boy exactly the same as a woman SP? No difference to you, right? They both sell sex! Or let us say we’re only talking females - are you saying there is no difference between a street crack whore willing to bareback whoever comes along for her next fix and a well reviewed high-end agency girl? Good luck with that!

All people here are saying is that SA girls are a different categorisation of prostitute to others. Some rules apply across all groups (willingness to exchange sex for cash) and others dont. One of the things that is unique to this SA category (or at least many of them) is that THEY dont see themselves as escorts. Now before your tiny brain explodes with indignation go back and read that last sentence again. Pay particular attention to the word in capital letters. It doesnt matter what you think or I think or the oxford english dictionary thinks - THEY dont think they are escorts. Now you are perfectly at liberty to contact as many of them as you like and point out the error of their ways - enjoy. But WE dint give a fuck. We can understand the dual concept of accepting money for sex but not thinking you are an escort and work with that to maximise our chances of getting what we want. Otoh your crusade to explain the error of their ways is ironically only likely to prove they are not escorts - at least as far as you’re concerned - as no way will they be fucking you if you actually try that approach

I agree with what you're saying and I'm glad you agree that they are prostitutes, albeit a different category. That was the point I was trying to make.

[NightKid]

deluded

Bazinga!     

[Spencer Fobby]

Bazinga!     

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[AlTerminator]

I have to agree, if you build a good rapport with some girls, in the long term you can get so much more back in return, I just had an old SB get back in contact over Xmas, she moved up north and recently move back to the city, I had her on social media and she randomly said she wanted to come around, chill and fuck, I haven't seen her in two years and she doesn't want any cash, just to wake and bake, bare in mind I haven't seen her in 2 years I'm happy, she's half my age and super fit Italian girl. That type of stuff will never happen on AW.
The previous arguments are just semantics, the girls can view themselves as what they want, it doesn't matter as long as you get a good out come, which is to fuck hot girls 

[NightKid]

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[datwabbit]

On the escort or not issue, here's an article from 2018. It's relevant to all of the UK but it's based on London and it's the right section.

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[stampjones]

On the escort or not issue, here's an article from 2018. It's relevant to all of the UK but it's based on London and it's the right section.

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Interesting though the journo seems to base this on speaking to 3 girls and 2 guys!
On a side note I thought novikov was a straight up hooker bar?

[The888]

I have to agree, if you build a good rapport with some girls, in the long term you can get so much more back in return, I just had an old SB get back in contact over Xmas, she moved up north and recently move back to the city, I had her on social media and she randomly said she wanted to come around, chill and fuck, I haven't seen her in two years and she doesn't want any cash, just to wake and bake, bare in mind I haven't seen her in 2 years I'm happy, she's half my age and super fit Italian girl. That type of stuff will never happen on AW.
The previous arguments are just semantics, the girls can view themselves as what they want, it doesn't matter as long as you get a good out come, which is to fuck hot girls 

Totally agree with this sentiment. The interaction is totally different with an SA girl.

Notwithstanding, and SB is 200-400 for an overnight and no rush to leave in the morning. A decent agency girl is that per hour and has probably been roasted 4-5 times in the day

SA based stuff is the way forwards, albeit a totally different game / level effort involved.

[NightKid]

SA based stuff is the way forwards, albeit a totally different game / level effort involved.

Different strokes for different folks bud. 

[JAYZ]

Totally agree with this sentiment. The interaction is totally different with an SA girl.

Notwithstanding, and SB is 200-400 for an overnight and no rush to leave in the morning. A decent agency girl is that per hour and has probably been roasted 4-5 times in the day

SA based stuff is the way forwards, albeit a totally different game / level effort involved.

Hoping to test the SA waters in the summer, though I've mentioned this on here before.

[Mr_Shins]

On the escort or not issue, here's an article from 2018. It's relevant to all of the UK but it's based on London and it's the right section.

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What they say in the media is exactly why there are so many high-demanding SBs with extremely high demanding taste, indeed "entitled brats for having high expectations". Guys with so much money to throw away..

Where are all the hard-up women with bills to pay and wanting a sugar-daddy to help them with their needs rather than simply their high tastes?

[Apu]

My experience on SA is becoming boring now, a few months in.

The SB's who were similar to escorts, became pushy about more pay days despite making £200 a meet.

The actual SB were demanding upwards of £500-1000... Leaches that wanted money but didn't even expect to fuck for it.
At least guarantee me two shags a month...

I'm very happy at the Early SB-SD stage where I have one girl for £250 for multiples hours and save loads in comparison to AW and these girls are more civvie and natural, younger and less cynical.

I reserve the desire for PSE from AW/agencies.

[Californian]

I bid her down to £100 for the meet. She's agreed to come in boots. Haven't agreed yet on whether she'll touch me with them. That in essence will be a crucial point for me. Not paying £100 just to sit and drink with a woman in boots unless she is going to touch me with them.

She quoted me 700. 

[MrBlackDude]

Where are all the hard-up women with bills to pay and wanting a sugar-daddy to help them with their needs rather than simply their high tastes?

Damn near all the profiles I've seen recently are low effort Instagram posers pretending to be SBs: sometimes with no information at all, but making damn sure "luxury lifestyle" is selected. I have "luxury lifestyle" profiles filtered out, but they still show up in my viewed/favourited me lists, and on the home page.

As well as not having a luxury lifestyle myself, and objecting to "students" demanding luxury when they should be... well, students, I've found that many said females have no real appeal or character, and expect something for nothing.

I've been talking to one SB who needed help just surviving, due to problems at their workplace. I'd much rather support them.

[newbie2014]

Gents

I've recently joined Seeking but have not had much luck either.

Most of the girls I managed to talk to were asking for astronomical figures. The lowest have been around 350 and the highest I got quoted was 2K!

If anyone has any good SB that they would like to share, please pm me.

I'm looking for students / single mums / professionals. It hasn't been easy, probably because I've been using AW / agencies exclusively and forgot what the dating world (or somewhere in between like Seeking) has become.

Cheers

[datwabbit]

Damn near all the profiles I've seen recently are low effort Instagram posers pretending to be SBs: sometimes with no information at all, but making damn sure "luxury lifestyle" is selected. I have "luxury lifestyle" profiles filtered out, but they still show up in my viewed/favourited me lists, and on the home page.

As well as not having a luxury lifestyle myself, and objecting to "students" demanding luxury when they should be... well, students, I've found that many said females have no real appeal or character, and expect something for nothing.

I've been talking to one SB who needed help just surviving, due to problems at their workplace. I'd much rather support them.

You have to be careful of hard up cases too. In my early days I believed them. A lot were lying or were genuinely hard up but willing to wait for a rich guy.

I agree on the profiles. I haven't subbed for a while and haven't been a SD for a while because the profiles I'm reading aren't that appealing and I don't have the time anymore to message everyone (many are ones I've messaged previously so no point trying again) in the hope of a number.

(I'm referring to the NE not London)

[DeanoDeano]

Damn near all the profiles I've seen recently are low effort Instagram posers pretending to be SBs: sometimes with no information at all, but making damn sure "luxury lifestyle" is selected. I have "luxury lifestyle" profiles filtered out, but they still show up in my viewed/favourited me lists, and on the home page.

As well as not having a luxury lifestyle myself, and objecting to "students" demanding luxury when they should be... well, students, I've found that many said females have no real appeal or character, and expect something for nothing.

I've been talking to one SB who needed help just surviving, due to problems at their workplace. I'd much rather support them.

I wouldn’t pay any attention to those filters whatsoever. It’s just a box to tick or not tick when signing up and I’d be amazed if anyone gave it any thought.

[datwabbit]

I wouldn’t pay any attention to those filters whatsoever. It’s just a box to tick or not tick when signing up and I’d be amazed if anyone gave it any thought.

Agree. Who's not going to say they'd like a luxury lifestyle. For some, those filters are what they'd like, for others it's what they expect.

[James]

Gents

I've recently joined Seeking but have not had much luck either.

Most of the girls I managed to talk to were asking for astronomical figures. The lowest have been around 350 and the highest I got quoted was 2K!

If anyone has any good SB that they would like to share, please pm me.

I'm looking for students / single mums / professionals. It hasn't been easy, probably because I've been using AW / agencies exclusively and forgot what the dating world (or somewhere in between like Seeking) has become.

Cheers

Theres no fixed price  one girl can charge 200 to one and the same girl 500. Depends on how much they like u and how much they think they can rip u off

[Spencer Fobby]

Theres no fixed price  one girl can charge 200 to one and the same girl 500. Depends on how much they like u and how much they think they can rip u off

“rip you off”.... really? 

[James]

“rip you off”.... really? 

True, i put on my profile as i dont use it anymore as the description, recent  casino winner, need someone to treat. the amount of responses i got 10 messages a day. ovs im not responding let the money scavengers wait

[stampjones]

True, i put on my profile as i dont use it anymore as the description, recent  casino winner, need someone to treat. the amount of responses i got 10 messages a day. ovs im not responding let the money scavengers wait

[DeanoDeano]

True, i put on my profile as i dont use it anymore as the description, recent  casino winner, need someone to treat. the amount of responses i got 10 messages a day. ovs im not responding let the money scavengers wait

What do you expect...?

If you put a profile up that basically says “I’ve got more money than sense” what sort of girls do you think are likely to be interested?

[Spencer Fobby]

True, i put on my profile as i dont use it anymore as the description, recent  casino winner, need someone to treat. the amount of responses i got 10 messages a day. ovs im not responding let the money scavengers wait

And we’ve been arguing about girls being ‘deluded’! What are you trying to attract with a profile like that, if not gold diggers?

[James]

And we’ve been arguing about girls being ‘deluded’! What are you trying to attract with a profile like that, if not gold diggers?

im not being serious on it, subscription expired, so just wrote it to waste the girls time. they contact thinking they can get a rich daddy. im not replying due to not paying.

let them keep wasting their time

[DeanoDeano]

im not being serious on it, subscription expired, so just wrote it to waste the girls time. they contact thinking they can get a rich daddy. im not replying due to not paying.

let them keep wasting their time

whats the point of that?

 

[datwabbit]

im not being serious on it, subscription expired, so just wrote it to waste the girls time. they contact thinking they can get a rich daddy. im not replying due to not paying.

let them keep wasting their time

All they'll say is "Hey"

[tynetunnel]

whats the point of that?

 

I think we all know where he won’t be going.... 

[Seasoned Vet]

Is it me or are a lot of the women on SA short in height haha. Seems like there is more 5ft and under then the average at the moment

[jonny]

After reading some positive experiences here i signed up for it and coughed up the hefty subscription. Its early days yet but looks better than Casual X which is just a scam and POF where the ladies are very bitter about men.

I have been quoted from £300 to £500 for PPM and one of them even asked for £2.5 a month, when i asked how many meets she said twice a week six in a month, stupid bit**.

Wanted to find out from experienced punters whats the usual fee for PPM and also if you can PM some reliable links.

Thanks

[KorbenDallas]

Yep, I've set up a seeking.com account and have much the same experience.

Even big whales are asking for big PPM amounts.  I find that the decent looking girls are asking in the £400 per meet region, have managed to negotiate some down to £300 but that appears to be the limit.

Still, for an overnighter that's not too bad if you're getting laid.  The issue I have is that my first (and only) date that I've had with a bird from seeking so far landed up with me paying for a hotel, paying for meal and drinks and she got too drunk smashing down £15 cocktails and pissed off home without even getting back to the hotel.

[Stickitin]

Yep, I've set up a seeking.com account and have much the same experience.

Even big whales are asking for big PPM amounts.  I find that the decent looking girls are asking in the £400 per meet region, have managed to negotiate some down to £300 but that appears to be the limit.

Still, for an overnighter that's not too bad if you're getting laid.  The issue I have is that my first (and only) date that I've had with a bird from seeking so far landed up with me paying for a hotel, paying for meal and drinks and she got too drunk smashing down £15 cocktails and pissed off home without even getting back to the hotel.

That’s why it’s pretty much straight back to the room for me! 

[Stickitin]

After reading some positive experiences here i signed up for it and coughed up the hefty subscription. Its early days yet but looks better than Casual X which is just a scam and POF where the ladies are very bitter about men.

I have been quoted from £300 to £500 for PPM and one of them even asked for £2.5 a month, when i asked how many meets she said twice a week six in a month, stupid bit**.

Wanted to find out from experienced punters whats the usual fee for PPM and also if you can PM some reliable links.

Thanks

I think £250 to £300 will be accepted in enough cases to stick with your guns (maybe 50%? but I have a small sample size). I try and get them to quote me first and then negotiate if they are too high, I’ve had some come in at £200 doing that, although I didn’t end up meeting them as hotter options cropped up.

I had the £2k per month thrown at me as well by a very hot Asian girl when trying to get her just for a night 

[massagepuntingfan]

I think £250 to £300 will be accepted in enough cases to stick with your guns (maybe 50%? but I have a small sample size). I try and get them to quote me first and then negotiate if they are too high, I’ve had some come in at £200 doing that, although I didn’t end up meeting them as hotter options cropped up.

I had the £2k per month thrown at me as well by a very hot Asian girl when trying to get her just for a night 

In London my general going rate is £200-£250. I'm early 40's, in good shape and sometimes described as handsome. This is now my 3rd subscription on SA and the max I've paid is £300 but that seems over the odds to me, more often than not you can get a hottie to come down from £300 or£400 to £250. If they don't budge wish them a good day.

[mgkerx]

If you don't have a place,then one also needs to factor in Hotel costs which even using Dayuse adds approx £100 to the total so now up to £350-£400 for a couple of Hours.

[DeanoDeano]

One really simple comment.

It's a Sugar Daddy website. A lot of the girls on there take this literally. They want to be "spoiled" - taken to nice places, bought presents, experience things they otherwise would not be able to afford, and the unspoken quid pro quo is that they'll get their knickers off "in return" but only if they want to. It's not a punter / SP agreement in the traditional sense.