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Physically, she's pretty with big fake boobs and a small butt.

Personality wise she's a bit bossy, like Romanians usually are. She was on her phone whilst we were in the middle of the act, I had to tell her to stop using it. She tries to direct everything rather than taking a more natural approach which I personally find off putting. In doggy she kept looking back at me "to make sure I didn't take off the condom" this was also very off putting.

I paid £40 extra for anal but couldn't hard enough to do it thanks to her antics. When I tried to get my money back she said something along the lines of "we had a deal so I can't give it back to you", I promptly told her I would be calling the police which made her suddenly rush to get the money. However she only gave me back £30 because she said I spent more time than I paid for, which was 15 minutes. I took the £30 and left.

I will never return again.

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Physically, she's pretty with big fake boobs and a small butt.

Personality wise she's a bit bossy, like Romanians usually are. She was on her phone whilst we were in the middle of the act, I had to tell her to stop using it. She tries to direct everything rather than taking a more natural approach which I personally find off putting. In doggy she kept looking back at me "to make sure I didn't take off the condom" this was also very off putting.

I paid £40 extra for anal but couldn't hard enough to do it thanks to her antics.
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When I tried to get my money back she said something along the lines of "we had a deal so I can't give it back to you", I promptly told her I would be calling the police which made her suddenly rush to get the money.
However she only gave me back £30 because she said I spent more time than I paid for, which was 15 minutes. I took the £30 and left.

I will never return again.
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I paid £40 extra for anal but couldn't hard enough to do it thanks to her antics. When I tried to get my money back she said something along the lines of "we had a deal so I can't give it back to you", I promptly told her I would be calling the police which made her suddenly rush to get the money. However she only gave me back £30 because she said I spent more time than I paid for, which was 15 minutes. I took the £30 and left.


Haha, pure drama - how does the whole police thing work ? a friend of mine in the force told me, issues like this get treated as a civil dispute ?

Its not likely the police can help, but she's panicked fully knowing her trade is not regulated.
   

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Cheers for the warning and well done on getting some of your money back.
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Cheers for the warning and well done on getting some of your money back.


@PP there's no warning here, I've plunged with @Antonia AA she's not a scammer but as stated cant be bothered to offer GFE.

Some SP's would have tried all the tricks in the book to get OP's hard but as you know  Antonia AA wouldn't be bothered, its a disagreement as opposed to a scam.


 

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@PP there's no warning here, I've plunged with @Antonia AA she's not a scammer but as stated cant be bothered to offer GFE.

Some SP's would have tried all the tricks in the book to get OP's hard but as you know  Antonia AA wouldn't be bothered, its a disagreement as opposed to a scam.

To be fair she did try to get me hard but I only seem to be able to get hard with submissive women, which she isn't.

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Haha, pure drama - how does the whole police thing work ? a friend of mine in the force told me, issues like this get treated as a civil dispute ?

Its not likely the police can help, but she's panicked fully knowing her trade is not regulated.
   

Running a brothel is illegal. One girl working out of her apartment is legal though. Either way I'm sure she didn't want the aggro over a mere £40.

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Running a brothel is illegal. One girl working out of her apartment is legal though. Either way I'm sure she didn't want the aggro over a mere £40.

Its not that simple, she has a lot of reasons to avoid the police
Offering prostitution from a rented property is illegal irrespective of the number of girls.
Working as an escort/prostitute isn't valid work with regards to residence status: if caught she can be thrown out of the country
She's probably not paying tax or national insurance
She almost certainly didn't get here alone: if she's got a boyfriend / pimp living with her there's a good bet he'd get a trafficking charge thrown at him

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Running a brothel is illegal. One girl working out of her apartment is legal though. Either way I'm sure she didn't want the aggro over a mere £40.



Its a tricky law  " two escorts are legally allowed to work from the same premises, but if that premises is owned or rented by someone else who profits from their work then it’s called brothel keeping "

Also if they draw up a legal document to confirm that they work together for ie security reasons it becomes legal, it was from a light read a while back but I'm unable to locate the article at present.

 
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Its a tricky law  " two escorts are legally allowed to work from the same premises, but if that premises is owned or rented by someone else who profits from their work then it’s called brothel keeping "

Also if they draw up a legal document to confirm that they work together for ie security reasons it becomes legal, it was from a light read a while back but I'm unable to locate the article at present.

 

Not a word of that is accurate

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Offering prostitution from a rented property is illegal irrespective of the number of girls.


That is not true. It is perfectly legal for a girl to provide sexual services from a rented property. If you want to prove me wrong on this point (which you will not be able to do) don't just repeat your argument, direct me to either the relevant statute or case law which details such a criminal offence (which is what illegal means).


Working as an escort/prostitute isn't valid work with regards to residence status: if caught she can be thrown out of the country


You are presuming she is not from an EU member state. If she is from an EU member state this point is completely irrelevant.

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That is not true. It is perfectly legal for a girl to provide sexual services from a rented property. If you want to prove me wrong on this point (which you will not be able to do) don't just repeat your argument, direct me to either the relevant statute or case law which details such a criminal offence (which is what illegal means).
You're talking bollocks again, these are the relevant statutes. S36 is the key one.

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 34
Landlord letting premises for use as brothel
It is an offence for the lessor or landlord of any premises or his agent to let the whole or part of the premises with the knowledge that it is to be used, in whole or in part, as a brothel, or, where the whole or part of the premises is used as a brothel, to be wilfully a party to that use continuing.

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 35
Tenant permitting premises to be used as brothel
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier, or person ' in charge, of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used as a brothel.

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 36
Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used for the purposes of habitual prostitution.

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You are presuming she is not from an EU member state. If she is from an EU member state this point is completely irrelevant.
More bollox. She only has right of residence if she is receiving state benefits or in valid recognised employment. Border Control don't regard escorting or prostitution as valid

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Not a word of that is accurate


As stated it a very grey area, the article states :

For example two escorts can work from the same property as long as they don't work together as part of a group or organisation

Section under: Brothel Keeping


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Sexual Offences Act 1956

33 Keeping a brothel.

It is an offence for a person to keep a brothel, or to manage, or act or assist in the management of, a brothel.

34 Landlord letting premises for use as brothel.

It is an offence for the lessor or landlord of any premises or his agent to let the whole or part of the premises with the knowledge that it is to be used, in whole or in part, as a brothel, or, where the whole or part of the premises is used as a brothel, to be wilfully a party to that use continuing.

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I'm not an authority in this field, legislation.gov.uk is straight up its illegal, but some legal articles seem to hints there's away around the law...
 


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As stated it a very grey area, the article states :

For example two escorts can work from the same property as long as they don't work together as part of a group or organisation

Section under: Brothel Keeping


Read more at: External Link/Members Only"

Sexual Offences Act 1956

33 Keeping a brothel.

It is an offence for a person to keep a brothel, or to manage, or act or assist in the management of, a brothel.

34 Landlord letting premises for use as brothel.

It is an offence for the lessor or landlord of any premises or his agent to let the whole or part of the premises with the knowledge that it is to be used, in whole or in part, as a brothel, or, where the whole or part of the premises is used as a brothel, to be wilfully a party to that use continuing.

Read more:

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I'm not an authority in this field, legislation.gov.uk is straight up its illegal, but some legal articles seem to hints there's away around the law...
 

That NEA page you linked to is utter garbage, and you can hardly take seriously a site which talks of "falling fowl of the law......". Its someone's wishful thinking

The legal situation is as I posted, its taken straight off the government website. Don't believe anything else

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 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is why no one should should take legal advice from muppets like you on the internet. As they say, "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" - and you clearly have only a little knowledge - and NO understanding behind that knowledge - I'm going to explain below why YOU are talking bollox (AGAIN)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You initially made this point (which I correctly said was wrong):

Offering prostitution from a rented property is illegal irrespective of the number of girls.

I told you that your above statement was incorrect (which it is) and instead of being introspective (something I know you are not very good at) you came back with a misguided and incorrect interpretation of law and, true to form, fired off expletives. Notwithstanding, I'll be the better person and still correct you out of the kindness of my heart.

It is not correct because a single woman can offer sexual services from a property (rented or not) without it being illegal providing it is not a brothel (See: Gorman v Standen,Palace Clarke v Standen (1964) for the correct definition of a brothel).

You, in your arrogance, have misinterpreted the provisions of the Sexual Offences Act 1956. None of the sections you highlight support your assertion. In fact, they all undermine your assertion.

I'll deal with each in turn:

You're talking bollocks again, these are the relevant statutes. S36 is the key one.

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 34
Landlord letting premises for use as brothel
It is an offence for the lessor or landlord of any premises or his agent to let the whole or part of the premises with the knowledge that it is to be used, in whole or in part, as a brothel, or, where the whole or part of the premises is used as a brothel, to be wilfully a party to that use continuing.

Section 34 above makes it: ILLEGAL for a LANDLORD to let premises for a BROTHEL.

Section 34 does NOT make it illegal for a single girl to offer sexual services from a rented property:lol: :lol: :lol: Nice try though  :unknown:  :lol:

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 35
Tenant permitting premises to be used as brothel
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier, or person ' in charge, of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used as a brothel.

Section 35 above makes it: ILLEGAL for a TENANT to allow premises to be used as a BROTHEL.

Section 35 does NOT make it illegal for a single girl to offer sexual services from a rented property (as that is not a brothel, see above).  :lol: :lol: :lol: Again, nice try though  :unknown:  :lol:

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 36
Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used for the purposes of habitual prostitution.

Section 36 above makes it: ILLEGAL for a TENANT to allow premises to be used for the purposes of prostitution.

This section exists to prevent a tenant from permitting someone else to provide sexual services. Note the language "to be used" i.e. that means others. It does not say "It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to use". The rationale for the section is to stop tenants of properties from controlling a prostitute(s) on the premises (you wouldn't know that of course, because you are all knowing, and no understanding). Because section 35 without section 36 would be absurd as section 35 could be made redundant by executing a tenancy agreement and having only one girl on site. To avoid that, we have section 36.

Section 36 does NOT make it illegal for a single girl to offer sexual services from a rented property:lol: :lol: :lol: Again, nice try though  :unknown:  :lol:

As if the above burns, were not enough, you asked fro more. Okay, here it is:

More bollox. She only has right of residence if she is receiving state benefits or in valid recognised employment. Border Control don't regard escorting or prostitution as valid

The above is actually incomprehensible. So all I'll say is: you don't need to have 'residence' in a country in order to live and work there.

In conclusion:

Now we know who was actually "talking bollox again", you should concentrate more on "understanding" than "knowing" in the future. You'll be a better (and much less arrogant) person for it.

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The legal situation is as I posted, its taken straight off the government website. Don't believe anything else

Jesus. This Scutty Brown muppet knows nothing about law. See my demolition of his misguided arguments above and let him rest.

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Running a brothel is illegal. One girl working out of her apartment is legal though. Either way I'm sure she didn't want the aggro over a mere £40.

This is actually a correct statement of the law. Scutty Brown is WRONG (again).

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I stand by what I've said
Just because you like writing in big letters it doesn't make your comments correct.
You're just trying your usual intimidation tactics again aren''t you?

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I stand by what I've said
Just because you like writing in big letters it doesn't make your comments correct.
You're just trying your usual intimidation tactics again aren''t you?

You can stand by what you've said if you want to continue to be wrong  :unknown: I've tried to help you by explaining the law to you as you clearly didn't understand it correctly and were criticising others (in a disrespectful way) - who were actually right.

My big letters don't make me correct. Being correct makes me correct. I note you haven't tried to refute what I've said about the law (what's the point, it is correct) so I'll let you bow out with dignity.

You were the one who came out firing expletives and criticising others, when you were actually the person who was wrong.

I hope that will make you think twice before being unduly arrogant and dismissive of others in the future. It isn't nice and you should stop doing it. We are all supposed to be on the same side here. You have a history of being a bit of a bully until someone stands up to you (see the above quotation for the latest example) and then you claim to be the victim. Just be a little more humble and a little less of a "know-it-all" and people will respond much better to you. You know a lot about punting and you make great contributions on here, but your arrogance (and in this case, ignorance) sometimes leaves a lot to be desired. I say that to you as a friend.
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You can stand by what you've said if you want to continue to be wrong  :unknown: I've tried to help you by explaining the law to you as you clearly didn't understand it correctly and were criticising others - who were actually right.

My big letters don't make me correct. Being correct makes me correct. I note you haven't tried to refute what I've said about the law (what's the point, it is correct) so I'll let you bow out with dignity.

You were the one who came out firing expletives and criticising others, when you were actually the person who was wrong.

I hope that will make you think twice before being unduly arrogant and dismissive of others in the future. It isn't nice and you should stop doing it. We are all supposed to be on the same side here. You have a history of being a bit of a bully until someone stands up to you (see the above quotation for the latest example) and then you claim to be the victim. Just be a little more humble and a little less of a "know-it-all" and people will respond much better to you. You know a lot about punting and you make great contributions on here, but your arrogance (and in this case, ignorance) sometimes leaves a lot to be desired. I say that to you as a friend.

Unfortunately your interpretation is wrong.
And to be quite honest I've learnt to be dismissive of just about every post you make

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Unfortunately your interpretation is wrong.
And to be quite honest I've learnt to be dismissive of just about every post you make

It isn't my interpretation. It's the interpretation of the Court of Appeal and the House of Lords (now the Supreme Court) and the literal reading of the statute????  :lol:

Again, I note you haven't explained why both I and the highest courts of England and Wales are wrong, and you are right - I think we both know why. Look up Occam's Razor.

I'll leave it at that. I can lead you to water but I can't make you drink.
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Wow, you guys are sad. Arguing with each other over something that has no meaning or impact on your lives.
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Wow, you guys are sad. Arguing with each other over something that has no meaning or impact on your lives.


Not really, understanding the legislation and how it as applies to you cant be wrong - for instance what if the punter called the police & got arrested too. 

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It isn't my interpretation. It's the interpretation of the Court of Appeal and the House of Lords (now the Supreme Court) and the literal reading of the statute????  :lol:

Again, I note you haven't explained why both I and the highest courts of England and Wales are wrong, and you are right - I think we both know why. Look up Occam's Razor.

I'll leave it at that. I can lead you to water but I can't make you drink.

Re section 36, after reading both arguments i think you are wrong, It states a tenant cannot use the premises for prostitution? Correct ? Then that surely includes the tenant?

Whether it is the tenant whoring or her/him pimping the premises is being used for prostitution contrary to rule 36. I have read it all again and again and cannot read it the way you have, A whore is a whore whether her name is on the rent book or not.

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Re section 36, after reading both arguments i think you are wrong, It states a tenant cannot use the premises for prostitution? Correct ? Then that surely includes the tenant?

Whether it is the tenant whoring or her/him pimping the premises is being used for prostitution contrary to rule 36. I have read it all again and again and cannot read it the way you have, A whore is a whore whether her name is on the rent book or not.



Its important to understand the difference btw the two

33 keeping and managing a brothel

and

36 Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution

While managing a brothel and profiting from it is an offence, 36 states that the tenant or occupier having knowledge of prostitution on the premises is an offence, in order word both SP, co- tenant or landlord haven't been given a jail free card.

Question is whats the true definition of a brothel in 33 ? which one out weighs the other - as stated even if its one SP working from the apartment, does it still make it legal ? explore 36 a bit more

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Re section 36, after reading both arguments i think you are wrong, It states a tenant cannot use the premises for prostitution? Correct ? Then that surely includes the tenant?

Whether it is the tenant whoring or her/him pimping the premises is being used for prostitution contrary to rule 36. I have read it all again and again and cannot read it the way you have, A whore is a whore whether her name is on the rent book or not.

I've already explained why the analysis I have given above is correct. I don't have the time to keep going over it. It you don't want to accept it, then don't. But it is correct.

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Offering prostitution from a rented property is illegal irrespective of the number of girls.
Obviously only if the landlord knows (aka related to the pimping).

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Obviously only if the landlord knows (aka related to the pimping).

read again:
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Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 36
Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used for the purposes of habitual prostitution.
One girl, renting a property, breaks the law.

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I've already explained why the analysis I have given above is correct. I don't have the time to keep going over it. It you don't want to accept it, then don't. But it is correct.

You are wrong, there is no other way to read it than any prostitution from a rented property is illegal.

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read again:One girl, renting a property, breaks the law.


When does the Brothel law get legal with one SP operating from the flat ? fair play its illegal if rented, but there's still been convictions for an owner of an apartment considered as a Brothel.

Very tricky / no so straight forward law, it creates from for loop holes and legal arguments.

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When does the Brothel law get legal with one SP operating from the flat ? fair play its illegal if rented, but there's still been convictions for an owner of an apartment considered as a Brothel.

Very tricky / no so straight forward law, it creates from for loop holes and legal arguments.

If the property is only ever used by one specific girl its not a brothel. If more than one use it, it is a brothel -even if only one girl is in place at a time. So if there are two girls alternating, its a brothel. The killer is, money does not have to change hands, the sex can be free. To be defined as a brothel it just has to be used for habitual sex by more than one girl

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read again:One girl, renting a property, breaks the law.

 :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

Pearls and swines.

You can't make it up  :unknown:

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You are wrong, there is no other way to read it than any prostitution from a rented property is illegal.

I am not wrong.

Don't just repeat your 'opinion' about the law. No one gives a shit about your 'opinion' about the law. Show me the case law you have read which relates to that section of the 1956 Act which supports your view and I will agree with you.

Until then: look at the case law which confirms my facts - as I got my facts from case law - you can look it up, I've done enough work by clearly explaining what the section means above - I'm not doing it again.

You and that Scutty Brown muppet are starting to sound like those swivel-eyed loons who go into court and start talking about maritime law and not agreeing to contracts with the state so law doesn't apply to you.  :lol:
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I am not wrong.

Don't just repeat your 'opinion' about the law. No one gives a shit about your 'opinion' about the law. Show me the case law you have read which relates to that section of the 1956 Act which supports your view and I will agree with you.

Until then: look at the case law which confirms my facts - as I got my facts from case law - you can look it up, I've done enough work by clearly explaining what the section means above - I'm not doing it again.

You and that Scutty Brown muppet are starting to sound like those swivel-eyed loons who go into court and start talking about maritime law and not agreeing to contracts with the state so law doesn't apply to you.  :lol:

PM me your address and I'll send you a copy of this to read, might help your posting style

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PM me your address and I'll send you a copy of this to read, might help your posting style

It isn't my fault that you:

(1) don't understand the law on prostitution.
(2) think you do understand the law on prostitution, when you don't.
(3) are unable to understand basic statutory legislation
(4) think you are able to understand basic statutory legislation, when you don't.
(5) are unable to understand basic case law.
(6) think you are able to understand basic case law, when you don't.
(7) despite the above, still pontificate your incorrect opinions about the above online because you think you won't be corrected.
(8) when you are corrected, put your fingers in your ears and scream "nah nah na nah nahhhh" and post stupid memes in an attempt to reassert your point and deflect the correction you've been given.
(9) never actually produce a substantive (and legally substantiated) justification for your 'opinions' (as that's all they are, they are not facts) - you just repeat them in the misguided idea that repetition can establish a fact out of a fiction, and accuse others of 'talking bollocks' and being 'wrong' - when it is actually you who is doing and being both of those things.
(10) are happy to wallow in your own ignorance, and be indignant about it  :unknown:

You just carry on being a swivel-eyed loon  :wacko: . Anyone reading the above, and actually looking properly into the law, will only be able to draw the same conclusions as I have posted: as they are the conclusions both of the legislature and the courts - your conclusions mean absolutely nothing to anyone but you.  :lol:

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If the property is only ever used by one specific girl its not a brothel. If more than one use it, it is a brothel -even if only one girl is in place at a time. So if there are two girls alternating, its a brothel. The killer is, money does not have to change hands, the sex can be free. To be defined as a brothel it just has to be used for habitual sex by more than one girl


"

Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 36

Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used for the purposes of habitual prostitution

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As you claim to be an authority on this subject you have failed to articulate it very well.

My question was simple 36 states that being a tenant ( which an SP's is likely to be in this case ) knowingly permits the use of the place for habitual ( non-stop, recurrent, repeated, frequent ) sex is liable

You stated that " the killer is, money does not have to change hands,  the sex can be free " ( which is not likely as SP's will demand cash payment on-site ) so it makes it illegal then if the property is rented and used for sex even if its one SP ?

That's why I said explore 36 more ie if one girl works from the flat, when does it become legal ?


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Sexual Offences Act 1956, Section 36

Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution
It is an offence for the tenant or occupier of any premises knowingly to permit the whole or part of the premises to be used for the purposes of habitual prostitution

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As you claim to be an authority on this subject you have failed to articulate it very well.

My question was simple 36 states that being a tenant ( which an SP's is likely to be in this case ) knowingly permits the use of the place for habitual ( non-stop, recurrent, repeated, frequent ) sex is liable

You stated that " the killer is, money does not have to change hands,  the sex can be free " ( which is not likely as SP's will demand cash payment on-site ) so it makes it illegal then if the property is rented and used for sex even if its one SP ?

That's why I said explore 36 more ie if one girl works from the flat, when does it become legal ?

I didn't understand what you were asking
For S36 there is no limit on numbers - one or more persons have to use it for prostitution.
The limit on numbers only applies to S34 and S35, where they are talking about a brothel, as a brothel is defined elsewhere as having two or more persons working there, even if not at the same time.

Its an either/or............if there are two or more girls the place is defined as a brothel and is illegal.
If there is just one girl then S36 gets her

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I didn't understand what you were asking
For S36 there is no limit on numbers - one or more persons have to use it for prostitution.
The limit on numbers only applies to S34 and S35, where they are talking about a brothel, as a brothel is defined elsewhere as having two or more persons working there, even if not at the same time.

Its an either/or............if there are two or more girls the place is defined as a brothel and is illegal.
If there is just one girl then S36 gets her

No it doesn't. I've explained why above.

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No it doesn't. I've explained why above.

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Hi Slamboy, still trolling I see


Hi Scutty Brown, still all knowing and no understanding I see.

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SlamBoys explanation of the legislation and case law is correct.

Scuttys attempted explanation appears be solely based on an interpretation of the Sexual Offences Act 1956 s.34-36.

Those three sections concern the use of a premises as a brothel. Section 36 is intended to prevent the bypassing of sections 34 and 35 by any number of methods that may try to claim the property is not being used as a brothel. E.g trying to claim that it is one building split up into several separate premises with separate tenancy agreements and it's a pure coincidence that each tenant is a prostitute (ensuring that each "tenant" can be prosecuted for participation in running a brothel under section 35, even if they claim to be unaware of the other "tenants".)

It's sections 34 and 36 in combination which makes Hotels nervous about prostitution under it's roof , and which means the famous Chelsea apartments are skating on thin ice.

The basics: Prostitution is not illegal in the UK. Brothels are illegal in the UK.

Otherwise, is Scutty claiming that all prostitution is illegal? Or that prostitutes can only legally work from a premises which they own?

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read again:One girl, renting a property, breaks the law.
Scutty , if you research this a bit you will find Slamboy is correct.
The wording is very particular.
It does not say prostitution from rented property is illegal.

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Slamboy is only half correct, the renting girl can potentially be breaking civil law depending on the rental agreement or mortgage documents which would have clauses to cover sexual behaviour but this would be taken up with the owner rather than the state, ie the police.
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Slamboy is only half correct, the renting girl can potentially be breaking civil law depending on the rental agreement or mortgage documents which would have clauses to cover sexual behaviour but this would be taken up with the owner rather than the state, ie the police.

Yes. However, as you have correctly said, in those circumstances it would be a civil matter related to breaking a tenancy agreement. That doesn't make it illegal behaviour.

SlamBoys responses were to Scuttys assertion that it would be criminally illegal behaviour, citing the Sexual Offences Act 1956.

Two entirely different things.

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Slamboy is only half correct, the renting girl can potentially be breaking civil law depending on the rental agreement or mortgage documents which would have clauses to cover sexual behaviour but this would be taken up with the owner rather than the state, ie the police.

Errrr . . . no. Slamboy is not only "half correct", he is 100% correct. Here's why:

Scutty Brown made the following statement, which I have shown is incorrect (see above):

Offering prostitution from a rented property is illegal irrespective of the number of girls.

I have shown that offering prostitution from a rented property is not illegal.

The key word here is "illegal". Illegal means criminal. Breaking a 'no prostitution' clause in a rental agreement is a civil matter: it is not a criminal matter and is therefore, by definition, not illegal. That's why I am not "half correct" but 100% correct.

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Who gives a shit

That's a really useful comment that adds to a discussion punters were having on here about punting.

Why don't you concentrate on pretending to be dying (again) instead of coming on here and shitting on other people's doorsteps with your pointless trolling?

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Yes. However, as you have correctly said, in those circumstances it would be a civil matter related to breaking a tenancy agreement. That doesn't make it illegal behaviour.

SlamBoys responses were to Scuttys assertion that it would be criminally illegal behaviour, citing the Sexual Offences Act 1956.

Two entirely different things.

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