Sex Parties - Protection? Ratio?

[Trapstar1]

Thinking of attending a sex party for the first time considering my duo hunt is failing... this might be my only opportunity in the near term to have a 3some.  One of the London sex parties...not sure which one yet. Phoenix, London Sex Party, The one in Sutton...

Obviously very nervous as I’m not a full on punter, mainly vanilla FBSM and OW.
I haven’t even penetrated a wg in a very very long time.

2 part question:

1. never had sex in front of on lookers or other par takers, and therefore I’m looking for the best venue to attend on the numbers side. I don’t want to attend the party where there are more than 10 guys ideally (lower the better) I also hear day of the week and time also attribute to good ratios?

2. Can you wear protection throughout your stay at the party? Or will you look like a right idiot and may even put off some of the girls for OW?

Appreciate it’s a bit of a open question so any help or guidance in the right direction would be helpful

 

[fudi_maar]

I don’t want to attend the party where there are more than 10 guys ideally (lower the better)

Phoenix

I also hear day of the week and time also attribute to good ratios?

Yes, but its hard to predict which day/time will be the busiest.

2. Can you wear protection throughout your stay at the party? Or will you look like a right idiot and may even put off some of the girls for OW?

Perfectly normal to do OW (as opposed to OWO) - in fact, the girls will thank you for it.

PS - the hardest part is the journey to the party - once you are there and naked and get started, within literally 60 seconds you will not even be bothered by other naked men around you.

PPS - you don't even need to have penetration if you don't want to but just for your personal confidence levels, I would suggest
you try penetration on a 1-2-1 basis first with WG's before attending a party.

Enjoy.

[Malvolio]

If you're after a threesome (presumably with two women), why do you need to go to a sex party?

[Trapstar1]

If you're after a threesome (presumably with two women), why do you need to go to a sex party?

My duo search is not going so well...
Poorly reviewed wg’s, Wrong location, wg availability...
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=250317.msg2556424#msg2556424

Ideally my alone time with two girls would be the preferable but If not I’m up for considering a party. 

[ZeroCount]

You might find the opportunity for a proper threesome doesn't crop up at a party. Even with a decent ratio, the girls are often too occupied with other guys for two of them at once to give their undivided attention to one guy.

Obviously ymmv, you might get exactly what you're after if you're lucky, I just thought it was worth mentioning. I'd carry on looking for your own personal duo instead if I were you.

[BigBoi1955]

Phoenix
Yes, but its hard to predict which day/time will be the busiest.
Perfectly normal to do OW (as opposed to OWO) - in fact, the girls will thank you for it.

PS - the hardest part is the journey to the party - once you are there and naked and get started, within literally 60 seconds you will not even be bothered by other naked men around you.

PPS - you don't even need to have penetration if you don't want to but just for your personal confidence levels, I would suggest
you try penetration on a 1-2-1 basis first with WG's before attending a party.

Enjoy.

+1
These are the answers to your questions. The Phoenix parties are more expensive than others but they guarantee a ratio of 2:1 or lower.

[Raven]

+1
These are the answers to your questions. The Phoenix parties are more expensive than others but they guarantee a ratio of 2:1 or lower.

I totally agree  and I find the afternoon bookings work well, as a few punters leave before the end and my final pop usually involves a threesome! Bless! Highly recommended as the girls are all friendly and accommodating and make newbies extra welcome, if u tell them it’s your first time 

[Trapstar1]

Thanks for al the feedback, my confidence is growing 

I agree that the duo may not happen at the party, but I think it would be nice all the same to see other girls getting banged and lots of pussy and tits all over the place 

I will continue my search for a duo for now, but if I don’t get anywhere by the end of the month I might attend one of the parties just for the fun of it. Seems like great value, considering I’m paying £100-120 for a FBSM (very good one at that).

Any more suggestions/comments are welcome!

[JamesKW]

I went to a mid afternoon party at Phoenix early in the year and there was 3 men and 4 women,but two  of the girls were a bit lack lustre.Parties are quite difficult to predict number wise,low numbers aren't always a good thing,because the men hog more when the numbers are low.Also young guys can be quite quick (5 to 10 mins) whereas an old guy can be (20 - 30 mins) if they are also massaging and licking away.You can wear protection for BJs as well as sex,its up to you.Regardless of number of attendees you will be required to perform infront of an audience,some attend just to be voyeurs,some will watch whilst they are queueing or refuelling.The girls don't rush out to wash after every punter so hygiene may not be as high as you hope.

[Trapstar1]

I went to a mid afternoon party at Phoenix early in the year and there was 3 men and 4 women,but two  of the girls were a bit lack lustre.Parties are quite difficult to predict number wise,low numbers aren't always a good thing,because the men hog more when the numbers are low.Also young guys can be quite quick (5 to 10 mins) whereas an old guy can be (20 - 30 mins) if they are also massaging and licking away.You can wear protection for BJs as well as sex,its up to you.Regardless of number of attendees you will be required to perform infront of an audience,some attend just to be voyeurs,some will watch whilst they are queueing or refuelling.The girls don't rush out to wash after every punter so hygiene may not be as high as you hope.

Thanks, some good insight.

I’m not worried about being watched by others (my porn star moment  )
I think I will be covered at all times sex and oral as your hygiene point was fair and something on my mind.

I defo agree with your observation on age vs time, I'm late thirties and still feel I’m 5-10 mins and move on type of person. 

[char45]

One tip, tell the organiser it's your first party. They'll usually ask one of the girls to show you round and you'll be sure to get attention.

I was also nervous but after getting naked and an opening blowjob it was all good...

[Glacier10]

Hi, I have been to Phoenix, LMP many times in the past.

In my opinion they have gotten worse over time - however, saying that - they are still great value for money - and most of the chicks are usually quite hot.

With regards to being in front of others. Really no one gives a shit, you have all sorts going, some young fit guys, old guys, big cocks, little cocks - no one is ever bothered at all or makes anyone else feel weird.

[Trapstar1]

2. Can you wear protection throughout your stay at the party? Or will you look like a right idiot and may even put off some of the girls for OW?

Might be a silly question, but...
Are the jonnys just laying around all over the place to freely pick up?
Do you get given a handful as you walk in?

[char45]

They are normally just lying around and you pick them up

[Hotandfun5]

You think you can wank in the corner watching at these parties

[Trapstar1]

You think you can wank in the corner watching at these parties

Would be an expensive wank...I shall let you know how I get on 

[BigBoi1955]

At the cheaper sex parties such as The Bi Fun Club or LAPC there are definitely guys who go just to watch and wank.

[davidgood]

At the cheaper sex parties such as The Bi Fun Club or LAPC there are definitely guys who go just to watch and wank.

I can't comment on the BFC parties as I have not been to them, but I go to LAPC fairly regularly.

Now that they are only held in Central London and cost £100 a time they are not cheaper IMO.

At all the ones I have been to recently I have not been aware of guys who just want to watch and wank. They may watch the action but then get stuck in when a girl is free.

Regards,

davidgood

[BigBoi1955]

I haven't been to the London venue for LAPC. They were £60 in Dagenham and £80 in Sutton.
The Bi Fun Club is £55 and there are certainly guys who just turn up to watch.
Rebecca Ryder's parties used to be £60 in Victoria, £80 in Stockwell and now are £130. The party cost increases are pretty steep and there are few cheap options.

[JamesKW]

I haven't been to the London venue for LAPC. They were £60 in Dagenham and £80 in Sutton.
The Bi Fun Club is £55 and there are certainly guys who just turn up to watch.
Rebecca Ryder's parties used to be £60 in Victoria, £80 in Stockwell and now are £130. The party cost increases are pretty steep and there are few cheap options.

Yes,I miss the days when parties were £50/£60 but there are a lot less organisers nowdays,Pams,Paradise Spa(who held at least 3 parties a week other than LAPC) and London Sex parties are now gone (less competition).Even at the ones still going numbers have significantly reduced,when I went to Phoenix there were only 3 guys and LAPC is often less than 10 so they have to spread costs over fewer punters.Bi Fun is the only one that gets good numbers but you know my thoughts on that party.

[Trapstar1]

I can't comment on the BFC parties as I have not been to them, but I go to LAPC fairly regularly.

Now that they are only held in Central London and cost £100 a time they are not cheaper IMO.

At all the ones I have been to recently I have not been aware of guys who just want to watch and wank. They may watch the action but then get stuck in when a girl is free.

Regards,

davidgood

Thanks for the feedback.
I haven’t looked into LAPC much but I will start on that this week.
From initial look, it seems that that ratio is slightly higher than Phoenix (2:1).
Hence maybe the £60 price difference...which I don’t mind paying for.

I will have to do a comparison of girls from both venues...

[davidgood]

Yes,I miss the days when parties were £50/£60 but there are a lot less organisers nowdays,Pams,Paradise Spa(who held at least 3 parties a week other than LAPC) and London Sex parties are now gone (less competition).Even at the ones still going numbers have significantly reduced,when I went to Phoenix there were only 3 guys and LAPC is often less than 10 so they have to spread costs over fewer punters.Bi Fun is the only one that gets good numbers but you know my thoughts on that party.

The days of parties in Central/inner  London at less than £100 per time are long gone now.

Apart from the Bi Fun parties, the only parties that I know of at less than £100 are the monthly House of Poitier brunch parties at Sutton  which are £70, or they were when I last went earlier this year.

If anybody knows of any other cheap parties please let us know.

Regards,

davidgood

[BigBoi1955]

Thanks for the feedback.
I haven’t looked into LAPC much but I will start on that this week.
From initial look, it seems that that ratio is slightly higher than Phoenix (2:1).
Hence maybe the £60 price difference...which I don’t mind paying for.

I will have to do a comparison of girls from both venues...

This is a generalisation of the girls at both parties.

LAPC – 35 to 45 yr old Latino single mums some carrying a few extra lbs

Phoenix – 25 to 35 yr old mixture of EE, Latin and British girls. Solid 8 out 10’s and attractive.

There are of course exceptions to the above description but the Phoenix girls are definitely more physically attractive and the 2:1 party ratio is strictly observed however the LAPC parties last 3 hours v the 2 hours for LAPC.   

Is Phoenix worth the extra £60? I think so but that is very much a personal preference and I could see how others would argue for LAPC.

[Trapstar1]

This is a generalisation of the girls at both parties.

LAPC – 35 to 45 yr old Latino single mums some carrying a few extra lbs

Phoenix – 25 to 35 yr old mixture of EE, Latin and British girls. Solid 8 out 10’s and attractive.

There are of course exceptions to the above description but the Phoenix girls are definitely more physically attractive and the 2:1 party ratio is strictly observed however the LAPC parties last 3 hours v the 2 hours for LAPC.   

Is Phoenix worth the extra £60? I think so but that is very much a personal preference and I could see how others would argue for LAPC.

Thanks this is very helpful!!
Some very interesting points to note.

I would agree, personally Phoenix is worth the extra £ for the ‘potential’ better ratio and younger girls.

Would take anymore feedback if anyone’s got it...

I just need to pluck up the balls to do it now...

[neurosynth]

You asked for more feedback. Not to brag, but I received a number of positive responses to this Phoenix overview I wrote. It also contains the URLs for a couple detailed reviews.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=212473.0

[Trapstar1]

You asked for more feedback. Not to brag, but I received a number of positive responses to this Phoenix overview I wrote. It also contains the URLs for a couple detailed reviews.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=212473.0

Appreciate that and I have read it before, along with most the other Phoenix reviews.
To be fair, July 2018 in this game is a life time ago, so although relevant, It may be slightly dated.

[BigBoi1955]

To avoid any confusion I’d like to say that I do like the LAPC ladies. In general they are friendly and fun but the fact is that physically they are not quite up to the same standards of the Phoenix girls. As far as fucking goes I’ve had bad, average, good and great fucks at both establishments. The girls who work at LAPC often also work at The Bi Fun Club but they are joined by lots of female swingers who tend to be more the mum next door types. Rebecca Ryder’s parties are at the complete other end of the scale and feature porn babes. If you are a fan of tattoos, trout pout lips and enhanced boobs then this is the party you should attend.

Everyone has different  tastes. Though I prefer Phoenix my second choice is Bi Fun Club because of the low price and the fact it’s always very busy with lots to watch as well as do. I personally don’t like the porn star look so would always choose an LAPC party over a Rebecca Ryder event but I know others would have the exact opposite view. Each to their own and Vive La Difference.

[JamesKW]

I agree with Big Bois assessment of the women at each party Phoenix are younger and better looking,I was a little unlucky at the party I went to as though there were only three men and four women (I thought I would be in for a lot of action),there was a regular there that hogged two of the women for over an hour of the party and me and the other guy were left with the other two,that though very friendly put in a bit of a lack lustre performance.I managed to get one of the girls to go and prise a girl off the regular.This was the Swiss girl,who I managed to finish the party with,she was very good (unfortunately I think she has left now) and made it just about worth the money.At Bi Fun most of the swingers were fat and one was more than obese,she took up the whole bed and just lied down there putting no effort in at all,and still there was one of the party goes trying to fuck her (it showed me that there are those that have no quality control at all),but ratios were so high and opportunities so sparse you had to take them when they arise.I haven't been to Rebecca Ryder which I believe is more gang bang so not really my scene.

[BigBoi1955]

I agree with the post made by James however do have to add
- To claim to be unlucky getting a 3 girl 4 men ratio will not be the reaction from a lot of men on here I do understand why you've said it however.
- I've been to quite a few Bi Fun parties and think your assessment is a bit harsh.

I appreciated that findings the Goldilocks numbers and ratio can be hard but the good thing about parties is there are choices.

[GreyDave]

  Well crowds have ben the thing at the Sutton House Parties that I have been to the most I have seen was 2 girls ( I think one of the Fat swingers and a 30 ish WG good looking) in a room with...having a think 2 blokes each side of each of them 5-6 at each end of room watching the goings on and me an two others plugging the holes so thats maybe 20 guys in the big room upstairs with the beds spread along wall...I was blue pilled up so no problems doing the WG in mish whilst two guys groped her jugs and wanked up with other hand this might be off putting for some but he ho blue power helped  Howevever the embarssing thing was when I`d done and pulled out I got a wipe and walked to the large old fashioned bathroom to clean up still with boner a guy folled me and strted asking about blue pill and effects was I using? To b right I said as I cleaned up  and went back in to hall way hoping to do the fat bird ( I did but had to wait 1/2 hr and did not cum  )

Protection yes  ratios can be high or low at a Clubfantasylondon was maybe the best ratio with 2-1

[fudi_maar]

Sutton House Parties that I have been to the most I have seen was 2 girls ( I think one of the Fat swingers and a 30 ish WG good looking) in a room with...having a think 2 blokes each side of each of them 5-6 at each end of room watching the goings on and me an two others plugging the holes so thats maybe 20 guys

So, 2 girls, one of which was fat, and about 20 guys. That's all I needed to know to realise it's not for me.

But to each his own, so respect.

[Trapstar1]

Yea, the Sutton club does not fit my bill for sure!!
Considering I’m anxious about going in the first place, turning up to a house with 20 blocks, couple of fat chicks and some old grannies... its not going to do it for me.

The more and more I read Phoenix seems more appealing however it’s luck of the draw on ratio, worse case 2:1

Roll on payday! 

[GreyDave]

 :hi:The Sutton house parties Ive been to by diffrent organizers have ALL been well over ratioed ie a scrum of guys and a few girls ...
I and other guys there have not found it disapointing its just a diffrent style of party. In many ways its more relaxed as its spread over 3-4hrs while Pheonix is very tightly done in 2 hrs and disiplined in time keeping. Yep the Girls there Ive seen have been young Latin hottie types I have to say now I am more of a Milf type they used to run a Milf Mondoy which was good,, as I now feel unable to repeat perform I havent been for a while but party shagging is an aquired tasted  theres some thing about waiting for the shout next and knowing youre up and performing in front of a crowd

I have been amazed at the stamina and going power of the Girls at parties particular some of Pheonixs Latina girls the EE ones just dont seem to want to prove themselfs like the Latinas do

[BigBoi1955]

:hi:The Sutton house parties Ive been to by diffrent organizers have ALL been well over ratioed ie a scrum of guys and a few girls ...
I and other guys there have not found it disapointing its just a diffrent style of party. In many ways its more relaxed as its spread over 3-4hrs

It is important to note that the Sutton house is a venue for hire and as such different organisers run different events with different themes. I've been to a few different parties at this house and have never been to one were there was only two girls and 20 guys. Such a ratio isn't sustainable so I doubt if that event is still running.

I been been to 5 or 6 Bi Fun Club parties in the last year and the number of females has always been between 20 and 30 but as has been mentioned many are overweight. The biggest is one lady called "English Ruby" who used to be a regular at LAPC. She's also reviewed on here somewhere. Describing her naked as beng like a beached whale is being unkind to the whale.

There are both positives and negatives to the Bi Fun parties but at £55 for four hours it is good value but it won't be to everyones taste.

[JamesKW]

The biggest is one lady called "English Ruby" who used to be a regular at LAPC. She's also reviewed on here somewhere. Describing her naked as beng like a beached whale is being unkind to the whale.

Ruby and Melons Marie are girls I avoid at all costs.I was there once when Ruby was there and a Punter was doing a BDSM scene with Ruby which involved a lot of spanking and screaming on her part.The parrot in the kitchen was mimicking this precisely doing the spanking and screaming sounds(so I could hear it in stereo),the scene was going on upstairs and the parrot could hear it down stairs.

[smiths]

Ruby and Melons Marie are girls I avoid at all costs.I was there once when Ruby was there and a Punter was doing a BDSM scene with Ruby which involved a lot of spanking and screaming on her part.The parrot in the kitchen was mimicking this precisely doing the spanking and screaming sounds(so I could hear it in stereo),the scene was going on upstairs and the parrot could hear it down stairs.

Melons Marie is ok to talk to but is a total turn off to see naked let alone fuck her. I have a minimum standard and she is well off the bottom of the scale. As is Rebecca Ryder a hefty lump.

[GreyDave]

Melons Marie is ok to talk to but is a total turn off to see naked let alone fuck her. I have a minimum standard and she is well off the bottom of the scale. As is Rebecca Ryder a hefty lump.

   

As an older guy I quite like Melons Marie and her chrippy working class gal demena I have shagged her at diffrent events and thought ok (not White Knighting I just like Juggs big and heavy
She is not a bad shag and was abel to see off more than 6-10 guys one after the other when ive seen her, the prima donna latina girls in thir20`s i find more getit over with ...maybe its an age thing

[GreyDave]

It is important to note that the Sutton house is a venue for hire and as such different organisers run different events with different themes. I've been to a few different parties at this house and have never been to one were there was only two girls and 20 guys. Such a ratio isn't sustainable so I doubt if that event is still running.

I been been to 5 or 6 Bi Fun Club parties in the last year and the number of females has always been between 20 and 30 but as has been mentioned many are overweight. The biggest is one lady called "English Ruby" who used to be a regular at LAPC. She's also reviewed on here somewhere. Describing her naked as beng like a beached whale is being unkind to the whale.

There are both positives and negatives to the Bi Fun parties but at £55 for four hours it is good value but it won't be to everyones taste.

Just to clarify that was a coffee morning event ages ago ... and there were more girls in the other rooms as well as swingers who seemd to stick to themselfes .I just recall it as it was a particular busy morning I seem to recall my Uncle Steve2 being there too, we did moan to each other about the numbers I seem to remember him doing a red head swinger in front of her partner as we chatted 

[BigBoi1955]

Just to clarify that was a coffee morning event ages ago ... and there were more girls in the other rooms as well as swingers who seemd to stick to themselfes .I just recall it as it was a particular busy morning I seem to recall my Uncle Steve2 being there too, we did moan to each other about the numbers I seem to remember him doing a red head swinger in front of her partner as we chatted 

That makes more sense. I used to go to those parties but they became a little "samey" after a while with no changes to the line up.

[Mr Farkyhars]

once you are there and naked and get started, within literally 60 seconds you will not even be bothered by other naked men around you

Depends on your personality.

[neurosynth]

... The girls who work at LAPC often also work at The Bi Fun Club but they are joined by lots of female swingers who tend to be more the mum next door types. ...

I found this comment to be confusing. And to be sure it's my confusion, not a criticism of your post. But perhaps you can clarify.

Is the implication that the Bi Fun Club isn't entirely "just" a swing club, but in fact they stock the pond to better please the single guys?

[JamesKW]

I found this comment to be confusing. And to be sure it's my confusion, not a criticism of your post. But perhaps you can clarify.

Is the implication that the Bi Fun Club isn't entirely "just" a swing club, but in fact they stock the pond to better please the single guys?

Many swingers clubs and greedy girl parties stock the pond,but the girls are often getting on a bit and don't do it full time,they enjoy sex and its a way of topping up their income.Even at parties like Torture Garden and Killing Kittens many of the attendees will be escorting party goers, paid for by the hour.You can't rely on actual swingers as they may only service a couple of guys at a party,often come in couples and only service other couples or just wander about,also most are fat,obese and pretty ugly.Single guys pay the high entrance fees that keep the parties going.

[BigBoi1955]

JamesKW is correct in his assessment but his repeated assertion that most females at these parties are old, fat, ugly is misleading. Yes there will be those types but there are also others in the acceptable range and are good fucks. The other point to note is that a fair number of the men who attend these budget parties fall into the old, fat and ugly description themselves. Anyone who pays £55 to go to a four hour sex party and expects to find it stocked with beautiful girls in 25 to 35 range are delusional.  Anyone who has high standards should pay the £160 and go to a Phoenix party. That's what I did yesterday and when I have time I'll be writing a review

[winkywanky]

Yea, the Sutton club does not fit my bill for sure!!
Considering I’m anxious about going in the first place, turning up to a house with 20 blocks, couple of fat chicks and some old grannies... its not going to do it for me.

The more and more I read Phoenix seems more appealing however it’s luck of the draw on ratio, worse case 2:1

Roll on payday! 

One thing worth considering is that I think in general terms, if you get to a party right at the start, all the girls should be there but all the guys who have booked won't be. This will improve the ratio, at least for the first few minutes.

Downside is that you may feel a little 'exposed' because the girls will be expecting you to start proceedings off  . Not been for a long time, but the couple of parties I went to, the girls are good at getting you involved, so why not?

[BigBoi1955]

One thing worth considering is that I think in general terms, if you get to a party right at the start, all the girls should be there but all the guys who have booked won't be. This will improve the ratio, at least for the first few minutes.

Downside is that you may feel a little 'exposed' because the girls will be expecting you to start proceedings off  . Not been for a long time, but the couple of parties I went to, the girls are good at getting you involved, so why not?

Not sure which parties you are basing this on but in my experience the start of the parties are usually the most frantic.

[winkywanky]

I'm sure I've read in some reviews on here that they can be 'quiet' at the beginning, and certainly that happened at one I went to many years ago...3 girls all jumped on me at once and I was almost relieved when other guys turned up! Perhaps I got lucky?

[winkywanky]

davidgood would be a good one to comment on this, he's quite possibly been the most active 'party animal'?

[BigBoi1955]

The reason I asked is that my experience has been the complete polar opposite. Most guys arrive on time and arrive horny so are all looking to jump on whoever is available. At the end of the party the numbers reduce and lots of the guys will be spent. If it's a wg party the girls will have paced themselves so their performance won't be noticeably different.

[smiths]

I'm sure I've read in some reviews on here that they can be 'quiet' at the beginning, and certainly that happened at one I went to many years ago...3 girls all jumped on me at once and I was almost relieved when other guys turned up! Perhaps I got lucky?

Most parties are frantic at the beginning and dependent on the punters can taper off after they have spunked, some can only manage one pop, the rest of the party they are licking cunt and/or wanking and having breaks.

The only party provider I have ever been to where the WGs came searching for me as a matter of routine was LMP now called TPC, I went in to the shower for a break on occasion. This was all due to the supervision by the pimp who was watching and having words if needed.

Never saw this happen at LAPC where the pimp John was fucking useless at any kind of supervision and some of the WGs took full advantage by having long breaks, sometimes at the same time. And this was in a tiny council flat near Hatton Garden that was totally unsuitable for sex parties and a Spa in Dagenham.

[winkywanky]

Think I must have been lucky then! Must be about 10yrs ago now, I went to a couple of parties in Central London. Can't remember their names but even if I could it'd be no indication of whether they'd be the same now of course.

One thing that does stick in my mind is coming up behind a girl who was leaning over giving a guy a blowjob. She had such a lovely smooth and tanned bum that I got down on my knees and started licking her perfect little arsehole (the girls were obviously in and out of the shower constantly). She went absolutely nuts and the guy's blowjob went from 3 to 11 (on the Marshall scale), whereupon I saw the guy peeking over the top of her arse, giving me a large thumbs-up