Ketrin xx - Hungarian - Ponders End

[munnezzaio]

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Save your money. Avoid this one.

[Goldfinch]

For this to be classed as a valid review,more detail is needed.

Did you have a confirmed booking?,care to expand on what happened?

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[munnezzaio]

i saw her yesterday. Poor sad girl,not looking healty,filty room,stinks,badly pimped.
Paid for 15 minutes, walked after five.

[Goldfinch]

i saw her yesterday. Poor sad girl,not looking healty,filty room,stinks,badly pimped.
Paid for 15 minutes, walked after five.

 

[Xtro]

I'm guessing you won't return! 

Sorry to hear about your shit punt mate. Looks like you TOFTT. 

[SlamBoy]

i saw her yesterday. Poor sad girl,not looking healty,filty room,stinks,badly pimped.
Paid for 15 minutes, walked after five.

Well I hope you are going to report this to the NCA given you have all of the details. If you think this girl is coerced you must do it. Here is a link with all of the information. You can do it anonymously so please do:

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[munnezzaio]

Well I hope you are going to report this to the NCA given you have all of the details. If you think this girl is coerced you must do it. Here is a link with all of the information. You can do it anonymously so please do:

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I sent you a pm.

[niftyfiftydave]

Well I hope you are going to report this to the NCA given you have all of the details. If you think this girl is coerced you must do it. Here is a link with all of the information. You can do it anonymously so please do:

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+1 and skip this mob and go to police or at least crimestoppers, Amazingly as i found out plod will act despite the funding, staff shortages etc. guess they don,t like pimps either. And they don,t just pay a visit get a pack of lies and go, if the girl has no id because the pimp has it they will arrange to go back to see it with a threat of arrest if not shown, well did in my case.
If she lies not a lot they can do, but any sense once she has her id, she will leg it.

[Snagbadjer]

I had to speak to the police regarding a WG i reported for suspected trafficking. Heard nothing back from them and can't decide if they were fobbing me off, didn't give a shit or just couldn't track them down. I gave them numbers, website links and hotel details. but these pimps usually use the girls' families as control methods, so even if they interviewed her she'd probably stone-wall the cops.

[niftyfiftydave]

I had to speak to the police regarding a WG i reported for suspected trafficking. Heard nothing back from them and can't decide if they were fobbing me off, didn't give a shit or just couldn't track them down. I gave them numbers, website links and hotel details. but these pimps usually use the girls' families as control methods, so even if they interviewed her she'd probably stone-wall the cops.

I did not hear back from them either but was given a reference to call, they usually do something though, they don,t like pimps either and trafficking is high on the agenda.

They can only do so much though, if she lied and produced id not a lot they can do, but if she had no id they would arrange to come back for it. Might be more difficult in a hotel though. I had the working address and a home address where another creep was playing the good guy but keeping tabs and expecting free sex. Good job i have a good memory this was whispered to me while in close.Hotel they will be gone before they could return for id though if she booked the room she should have some.
I just don,t think they have the time or manpower to call everyone back, partly why we are in such a mess.

[Chachi]

i saw her yesterday. Poor sad girl,not looking healty,filty room,stinks,badly pimped.
Paid for 15 minutes, walked after five.

Can you please give more information because it’s confusing what you’ve said. Can you please explain what “ poor sad girl “ & “ badly pimped (How do you know she is pimped) “ means?

[niftyfiftydave]

Can you please give more information because it’s confusing what you’ve said. Can you please explain what “ poor sad girl “ & “ badly pimped (How do you know she is pimped) “ means?

Really? you cannot work out exactly what he means from the words used? Why would you query it unless you want to see a poor sad girl that looks ill.?

[SlamBoy]

Really? you cannot work out exactly what he means from the words used? Why would you query it unless you want to see a poor sad girl that looks ill.?

+1

Probably some sicko voyeur by the looks of it

[niftyfiftydave]

+1

Probably some sicko voyeur by the looks of it

Some sort of sick cunt. Or her pimp which = sick cunt.

[Chachi]

Really? you cannot work out exactly what he means from the words used? Why would you query it unless you want to see a poor sad girl that looks ill.?

Poor sad girl that looks ill meaning she might have some form of Std? She might be going through a rough time, relationship problems? The review does not go into detail, it’s wise not to jump to conclusions and start making assumptions.

[Soapyjoe21971]

+1 and skip this mob and go to police or at least crimestoppers, Amazingly as i found out plod will act despite the funding, staff shortages etc. guess they don,t like pimps either. And they don,t just pay a visit get a pack of lies and go, if the girl has no id because the pimp has it they will arrange to go back to see it with a threat of arrest if not shown, well did in my case.
If she lies not a lot they can do, but any sense once she has her id, she will leg it.

Is this on South Street ?

[scutty brown]

Really? you cannot work out exactly what he means from the words used? Why would you query it unless you want to see a poor sad girl that looks ill.?

Lets make it simple for you
A Hungarian girl in London, the most expensive city to live in in the UK, who charges only £70/hour is almost certainly not going to be working voluntarily.
Add to that the poor health, shit accomodation, and the inference that the OP saw what appeared to be a controlling pimp then its a bloody good bet that she is being held there and forced to work.
The situation need reporting to the police urgently as a case of modern slavery. Most police forces have that as a top priority

[niftyfiftydave]

Lets make it simple for you
A Hungarian girl in London, the most expensive city to live in in the UK, who charges only £70/hour is almost certainly not going to be working voluntarily.
Add to that the poor health, shit accomodation, and the inference that the OP saw what appeared to be a controlling pimp then its a bloody good bet that she is being held there and forced to work.
The situation need reporting to the police urgently as a case of modern slavery. Most police forces have that as a top priority

This is exactly the same situation i came across when i called plod, in exactly the same area of London, I cannot believe that anyone can make excuses to justify in their own mind posting a review like this and not making a poxy phone call, if it,s not the same situation no harm done, plod will decide that.

In my case out of desperation i was told the situation, she could speak good English and convey it, but if they don,t speak good English they do not even have that option.

I will remind you that a 24 year old Hungarian was recently found in a freezer, The OP finding this situation is quite happy to post his findings on the internet but ignore the possible dangerous situation for the girl and a Pimp hanging around and her obvious ill health. Beyond my comprehension. Probably too late for her now, you need to act at the time.

[niftyfiftydave]

Poor sad girl that looks ill meaning she might have some form of Std? She might be going through a rough time, relationship problems? The review does not go into detail, it’s wise not to jump to conclusions and start making assumptions.

So you think a young Hungarian in a grotty room taking cock from all comers with cash,looking ill, with a pimp hanging around outside, might have relationship problems?

You are digging a big hole continuing with your posts, so far you come across as someone looking for a cheap girl, in a bad situation, you want to abuse.

What the fuck do you want information on a sick looking women obviously coerced by a pimp for. And how can you justify ignoring what is obvious ?

[niftyfiftydave]

Lets make it simple for you
A Hungarian girl in London, the most expensive city to live in in the UK, who charges only £70/hour is almost certainly not going to be working voluntarily.
Add to that the poor health, shit accomodation, and the inference that the OP saw what appeared to be a controlling pimp then its a bloody good bet that she is being held there and forced to work.
The situation need reporting to the police urgently as a case of modern slavery. Most police forces have that as a top priority

Scutty i tried to pm, you know why i could not, could you pm me please.

[scutty brown]

Scutty i tried to pm, you know why i could not, could you pm me please.

Dave,, I don't have PM rights on UKP, but I do on UKE, can you try there?

[munnezzaio]

It has been reported on May 26 and the profile is without phone number since then.
I hope she is ok and good luck to her.

[scutty brown]

It has been reported on May 26 and the profile is without phone number since then.
I hope she is ok and good luck to her.

bad sign
probably means the pimps got away and are trying to hide the trail by ditching the phone number
profile will get resurrected in a few months with a new phone number: I've seen the Hungarian gangs do it many times before

[niftyfiftydave]

It has been reported on May 26 and the profile is without phone number since then.
I hope she is ok and good luck to her.

Well done for taking the right course of action, needs to be done though before you come here to write a review. We are the only contact with outside life and their only chance, if your wrong the authorities will decide that but no one should ignore the situation you found. we can only make that call and put it in the authorities hands, there is nothing else we can do, but in my case you would not believe the thanks i got from her and her family and still do.
Never seen someone so happy to be working 12 hour shifts in a factory for the minimum wage and live in a shared house.
She has bounced back with minimal psychological damage, there is some, but how anyone is affected depends on the person. Most will never find that out or if the authorities did their job but even then it must make you feel you did your best.

[scutty brown]

Dave,, I don't have PM rights on UKP, but I do on UKE, can you try there?

Dave, can you check whether my reply to your e-mail on UKE reached you?

[niftyfiftydave]

Dave, can you check whether my reply to your e-mail on UKE reached you?

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[Chachi]

So you think a young Hungarian in a grotty room taking cock from all comers with cash,looking ill, with a pimp hanging around outside, might have relationship problems?

You are digging a big hole continuing with your posts, so far you come across as someone looking for a cheap girl, in a bad situation, you want to abuse.

What the fuck do you want information on a sick looking women obviously coerced by a pimp for. And how can you justify ignoring what is obvious ?

1. You have quoted above that “ A pimp hanging outside the room“ was present yet there is no mention of this in the post at all, it only says “ badly pimped “ which I have asked the poster what they mean and still their has been no reply as of yet.

2. I not only mentioned relationship problems but also Std medical problems or even rough times which you deliberately left out as you have no clue.

3. You mention “I come across as some one who’s looking for a cheap girl “ but yet in my 8 reviews Compaired to your 4 ive spent £70-£90 whilst with yours it’s £30-£40 for short cheap visits, just goes to show you who’s cheap.

4. You ask why I want more information? I’ve already explained I want to know how the original poster knows the girl was pimped and what he meant by “ poor sad girl “.

5. You also meantion she’s “ coerced by a pimp “, what evidence do you have?

[Chachi]

Lets make it simple for you
A Hungarian girl in London, the most expensive city to live in in the UK, who charges only £70/hour is almost certainly not going to be working voluntarily.
Add to that the poor health, shit accomodation, and the inference that the OP saw what appeared to be a controlling pimp then its a bloody good bet that she is being held there and forced to work.
The situation need reporting to the police urgently as a case of modern slavery. Most police forces have that as a top priority

Let me make it simple for you because your starting to make assumptions, were above does the punter mention “ controlling pimp “? No where. Also working at £70 does not almost mean a girl is working involuntary but if you can show me some sort of researched statistical information then you can’t say otherwise. Also I have looked at your profile reviews were YOU YOURSELF have visited cheaper girls who charge £60 for 1 hour. Bad health can be caused by many things such as “ DRUGS “ which we all know to well that many of these girls do.

[Gambitman92]

Let me make it simple for you because your starting to make assumptions, were above does the punter mention “ controlling pimp “? No where. Also working at £70 does not almost mean a girl is working involuntary but if you can show me some sort of researched statistical information then you can’t say otherwise. Also I have looked at your profile reviews were YOU YOURSELF have visited cheaper girls who charge £60 for 1 hour. Bad health can be caused by many things such as “ DRUGS “ which we all know to well that many of these girls do.

He said the same thing in another thread but never replied to my post, no doubt there are victims in this game but imo he's wrong for the most part.

I have said this many times here that I punt cheap ee girls in north london, £40-£60/30 mins and £70-£90/1 hour. Every girl I have seen except 2 have been Hungarian. I speak to every girl I punt during and nothing seemed off. I also told him that having a pimp doesnt mean theyre forced or blackmailed. Lots of these girls pay a % to use a room as well as have someone make them a profile and handle comms. Amanda is independent, I saw her in bounds green, she's now in Turnpike Lane, speaks english, handles her own comm, she's £80 an hour, Pamela who I also saw is £70 an hour, she's not forced.

[Moby Dick]

1. You have quoted above that “ A pimp hanging outside the room“ was present yet there is no mention of this in the post at all, it only says “ badly pimped “ which I have asked the poster what they mean and still their has been no reply as of yet.

2. I not only mentioned relationship problems but also Std medical problems or even rough times which you deliberately left out as you have no clue.

3. You mention “I come across as some one who’s looking for a cheap girl “ but yet in my 8 reviews Compaired to your 4 ive spent £70-£90 whilst with yours it’s £30-£40 for short cheap visits, just goes to show you who’s cheap.

4. You ask why I want more information? I’ve already explained I want to know how the original poster knows the girl was pimped and what he meant by “ poor sad girl “.

5. You also meantion she’s “ coerced by a pimp “, what evidence do you have?

OP has left a neg.
He believe she is pimped and as such he says he has reported to authorities to deal with. Right thing to do. It’s upto them now.
Why do you need to know more?
Possibly pimped or just unhealthy, it’s a big warning to stay away.

[scutty brown]

He said the same thing in another thread but never replied to my post, no doubt there are victims in this game but imo he's wrong for the most part.

I have said this many times here that I punt cheap ee girls in north london, £40-£60/30 mins and £70-£90/1 hour. Every girl I have seen except 2 have been Hungarian. I speak to every girl I punt during and nothing seemed off. I also told him that having a pimp doesnt mean theyre forced or blackmailed. Lots of these girls pay a % to use a room as well as have someone make them a profile and handle comms. Amanda is independent, I saw her in bounds green, she's now in Turnpike Lane, speaks english, handles her own comm, she's £80 an hour, Pamela who I also saw is £70 an hour, she's not forced.

Let me make it simple for you because your starting to make assumptions, were above does the punter mention “ controlling pimp “? No where. Also working at £70 does not almost mean a girl is working involuntary but if you can show me some sort of researched statistical information then you can’t say otherwise. Also I have looked at your profile reviews were YOU YOURSELF have visited cheaper girls who charge £60 for 1 hour. Bad health can be caused by many things such as “ DRUGS “ which we all know to well that many of these girls do.

You're both deluded
The £70/hour is the price set by the criminal gangs who import and "manage" these girls. If they were working for themselves they would be charging a lot more. That is not an assumption, it IS a fact based on a long time watching these gangs - however I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of the details of what I know, its too dangerous for all involved.
You suggest the girls may be on drugs - quite possibly, and another pointer to trafficking / human slavery. Girls are frequently kept doped up to prevent them resisting exploitation.
As for me using girls who charge £60/hour, who were you thinking of? Lucy? All she offers is massage and prices her service on that basis.

[Gambitman92]

You're both deluded
The £70/hour is the price set by the criminal gangs who import and "manage" these girls. If they were working for themselves they would be charging a lot more. That is not an assumption, it IS a fact based on a long time watching these gangs - however I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of the details of what I know, its too dangerous for all involved.
You suggest the girls may be on drugs - quite possibly, and another pointer to trafficking / human slavery. Girls are frequently kept doped up to prevent them resisting exploitation.
As for me using girls who charge £60/hour, who were you thinking of? Lucy? All she offers is massage and prices her service on that basis.

Im sorry but I dont think you read what I posted, you're saying that if they were working for themselves then they would be charging more is false. Great, you "watch gangs", I actually go see these girls. Again, Amanda is independent and has been in the UK for years, handles all her own bookings and she's £70-£80 an hour, should I ask her why she doesnt charge more?

It could a number of reasons, between South gate and Turnpike lane there are a lot of sex workers, lots of british and northern european girls as well as hot ee girls, most charge £110-£140 an hour, maybe the less attractive ones know they cant compete with these girls so they do low prices?


Youre right about gangs being involved in this and women being forced in this game but your opinion of "almost all girls at £70 an hour are doing this involuntary" is an ignorant one.

How much should a girl charge (in your mind) if she wasnt forced to do this?

[pepsicolaboy]

He said the same thing in another thread but never replied to my post, no doubt there are victims in this game but imo he's wrong for the most part.

I have said this many times here that I punt cheap ee girls in north london, £40-£60/30 mins and £70-£90/1 hour. Every girl I have seen except 2 have been Hungarian. I speak to every girl I punt during and nothing seemed off. I also told him that having a pimp doesnt mean theyre forced or blackmailed. Lots of these girls pay a % to use a room as well as have someone make them a profile and handle comms. Amanda is independent, I saw her in bounds green, she's now in Turnpike Lane, speaks english, handles her own comm, she's £80 an hour, Pamela who I also saw is £70 an hour, she's not forced.

Im sorry but I dont think you read what I posted, you're saying that if they were working for themselves then they would be charging more is false. Great, you "watch gangs", I actually go see these girls. Again, Amanda is independent and has been in the UK for years, handles all her own bookings and she's £70-£80 an hour, should I ask her why she doesnt charge more?

It could a number of reasons, between South gate and Turnpike lane there are a lot of sex workers, lots of british and northern european girls as well as hot ee girls, most charge £110-£140 an hour, maybe the less attractive ones know they cant compete with these girls so they do low prices?

Youre right about gangs being involved in this and women being forced in this game but your opinion of "almost all girls at £70 an hour are doing this involuntary" is an ignorant one.

How much should a girl charge (in your mind) if she wasnt forced to do this?

+1

I also think this speculation that women are being coerced (with no solid evidence being put forward IMO) is not leading anywhere. I suggest also people post this in General Discussion, as this is not the first recent thread where some of the same people are speculating coercion based on price + how the SP 'looks'...IMO

Edit: If you think a SP is in trouble - report to Crimestoppers, don't see them again (as you aiding the cycle) IMO

[Chachi]

You're both deluded
The £70/hour is the price set by the criminal gangs who import and "manage" these girls. If they were working for themselves they would be charging a lot more. That is not an assumption, it IS a fact based on a long time watching these gangs - however I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of the details of what I know, its too dangerous for all involved.
You suggest the girls may be on drugs - quite possibly, and another pointer to trafficking / human slavery. Girls are frequently kept doped up to prevent them resisting exploitation.
As for me using girls who charge £60/hour, who were you thinking of? Lucy? All she offers is massage and prices her service on that basis.

Again you’ve failed to answer anything and instead babble on, maybe it’s time you stopped. Also I noticed you’ve reviewed/punted (Yuki) some one who you believed to be trafficked, even though you said you recognised the voice of persons who forces girls to work against thier will (first sign) on the phone, you still proceeded, then knocked on the big black door, then the man looks through the letter box (second sign), then let’s you in and directs you to the girl, then you say the girl is trained (third sign) like a pet dog to please you and as you put it, you “ tit and clit licked “ her & then pounded her until she could not handle no more which is we’re she relives you with he.
Despite all the signs, you still used her for your own sexual gratification and that’s just one of you punts not mentioning the other brothels you’ve been to which is clearly displayed in your reviews. If it were me I would have walked from the get go but hey, you have others out thier with different agenda’s.

[niftyfiftydave]

+1

I also think this speculation that women are being coerced (with no solid evidence being put forward IMO) is not leading anywhere. I suggest also people post this in General Discussion, as this is not the first recent thread where some of the same people are speculating coercion based on price + how the SP 'looks'...IMO

Edit: If you think a SP is in trouble - report to Crimestoppers, don't see them again (as you aiding the cycle) IMO

So you think the number being removed from profile and it not being accessed since being reported are the actions of a girl desperate for cash she sells her ass, paid for a profile, a flat, and was legally working for herself with nothing to hide if the authorities asked questions. Really?

[niftyfiftydave]

Again you’ve failed to answer anything and instead babble on, maybe it’s time you stopped. Also I noticed you’ve reviewed/punted (Yuki) some one who you believed to be trafficked, even though you said you recognised the voice of persons who forces girls to work against thier will (first sign) on the phone, you still proceeded, then knocked on the big black door, then the man looks through the letter box (second sign), then let’s you in and directs you to the girl, then you say the girl is trained (third sign) like a pet dog to please you and as you put it, you “ tit and clit licked “ her & then pounded her until she could not handle no more which is we’re she relives you with he.
Despite all the signs, you still used her for your own sexual gratification and that’s just one of you punts not mentioning the other brothels you’ve been to which is clearly displayed in your reviews. If it were me I would have walked from the get go but hey, you have others out thier with different agenda’s.

Perhaps before slagging a fellow punter in a personal manner, easy from a keyboard, you could read the recent convictions posted in the uk general area.

If another punter is posting his knowledge of these situations to warn others just take it as that, why the personal bits?

 I too have had recent first hand experience of what is happening in the exact area of this one. Spent several hours with plod, will probably have to spend several more, and am still in contact with the victim who is still telling me the horror stories of pain and rape as and when she needs to get them off her chest.

I don,t think Scutty is too far wrong in his general assumption and very obviously has far better knowledge than me you or any other punter. Do you really want to see girls on drugs? that can be raped as punishment if you walk, are scared to complain, get away, to not fuck you because another person has their documents, has accessed their family and using that as a threat of shame, is basically an atm for a foreign gang in the uk.

Your choice to choose cheap ee,s , maybe they don,t have the choice not to fuck you. 100 quid an hour seems to be below average for London these days and most don,t expect much at that rate, some only pay in excess of 150 in the search for a quality punt, so why would a good looking young foreign girl sell herself for 60 or 70. far below average.
i am sure some of the older not so good looking ones are happy to get that and probably would not get anymore,young, good looking, good body, new on the market, for 60 or 70 quid an hour has to set alarm bells ringing.

[niftyfiftydave]

Just did Aw search of available today in Enfield area, Until recently a probably the go to area for decent looking Polish girls, usually a good number, today, at 10am, there is 1 listed.

I wonder if plod activity in the area has anything to do with that? I wonder, what do you think.

Any independent working alone is doing nothing illegal, other than tax dodging probably, would have no reason to shut up shop if authorities were asking questions, nothing to hide, Can produce the required id, Why do you think they have all buggered off? Group Holiday lol?

[niftyfiftydave]

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Got any thoughts on why she was in London, nobody missed her and she ended up in a freezer? or why the area has very few of the usual active Hungarian active aw profiles?

[Chachi]

Perhaps before slagging a fellow punter in a personal manner, easy from a keyboard, you could read the recent convictions posted in the uk general area.

If another punter is posting his knowledge of these situations to warn others just take it as that, why the personal bits?

 I too have had recent first hand experience of what is happening in the exact area of this one. Spent several hours with plod, will probably have to spend several more, and am still in contact with the victim who is still telling me the horror stories of pain and rape as and when she needs to get them off her chest.

I don,t think Scutty is too far wrong in his general assumption and very obviously has far better knowledge than me you or any other punter. Do you really want to see girls on drugs? that can be raped as punishment if you walk, are scared to complain, get away, to not fuck you because another person has their documents, has accessed their family and using that as a threat of shame, is basically an atm for a foreign gang in the uk.

Your choice to choose cheap ee,s , maybe they don,t have the choice not to fuck you. 100 quid an hour seems to be below average for London these days and most don,t expect much at that rate, some only pay in excess of 150 in the search for a quality punt, so why would a good looking young foreign girl sell herself for 60 or 70. far below average.
i am sure some of the older not so good looking ones are happy to get that and probably would not get anymore,young, good looking, good body, new on the market, for 60 or 70 quid an hour has to set alarm bells ringing.

1. Slaging you say? I’m not the one swearing, making accusations or become spokesman for other people’s comments.

2. Your quote “ why the personal bits? “ It is not personal bits, just a question asked about how he knew she was pimped & what “ poor sad girl “ meant which still has not been answered.

3. Now you have diverted the subject to your own personal experiences which I have no interest in, as I’ve pointed out that if it were me then I would have walked which is what the punter did also but some others would have punted & used the girl as shown in the comment I made above.

4. You said “ Your choice to choose cheap ee,s , maybe they don,t have the choice “, again you start to make your assumptions & then you talk about “ for 60 or 70 quid an hour has to set alarm bells ringing “ but yet YOU YOURSELF have punted girls such as “ naughty gal sabraya “ who charge £35 half hour & £55 1 hour.

5. There are a couple of reasons EE girls will place themselves at lower price points and that is to attract clients gaining rep then upping the price, or travelling gypsies, traveller with limited communications, or looking to make quick cash for the family back home, support thier drug habits, option to live in the accommodation for a certain amount based on their income, have a maid take care of profiles and direct clients thier way, older in age and other illegal activities.

[Chachi]

Just did Aw search of available today in Enfield area, Until recently a probably the go to area for decent looking Polish girls, usually a good number, today, at 10am, there is 1 listed.

I wonder if plod activity in the area has anything to do with that? I wonder, what do you think.

Any independent working alone is doing nothing illegal, other than tax dodging probably, would have no reason to shut up shop if authorities were asking questions, nothing to hide, Can produce the required id, Why do you think they have all buggered off? Group Holiday lol?

I don’t know as I don’t punt in that area so I can’t make guesses however I do know from statistical evidence that many EE people are leaving the UK in higher numbers after a referendum took place back in 2016 which has had repercussions such as over 4000 EE nurses leaving LAST YEAR alone . I have talked with many EE girls and they have many different reasons for leaving such as they know that if they go to places such as Germany thier is more stability, better clients , closer to home, less restrictions and they can live there without having to worry about what happens next after Brexit as they will still be part of the EU and move around freely in those other countries.