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Offline mh

... smiths seems to have a personality disorder. Smiths refers to Audi as suspicious, yet he (?) has been checking how many posts Audi has made - now THAT is suspicious.

Well if smiths has a disorder then I suspect many more of us have a similar one. When a newbie poster puts messages on a subject in which we have experience (e.g. GUM clinic visits or LMP) but in our experience looks a bit suspicious, it is natural to look at what else that person has posted. It doesn't take any stalking - 2 clicks of a mouse does it. If that then shows an even more suspicious pattern of posts (like almost all of them being on the same subject) then we can tell the OP what we think and let others consider the OP's motives.

Over the last 24 hours the curious minds on here have proved invaluable in rooting out duplicity of a monumental nature and I welcome the opinions of experienced UKP users in doing likewise with suspicious sounding posts/posters.

Offline CoolTiger

I don't think Audi has posted anything particularly noteworthy, but smiths seems to have a personality disorder. Smiths refers to Audi as suspicious, yet he (?) has been checking how many posts Audi has made - now THAT is suspicious. Audi comes across as a relatively well-balanced individual. Smiths, if you pm me I can give you some helpline numbers.

You ought to go on the ParisB thread and also tick off the member who searched for posts made by ParisB through her profile, before outing her.

Offline GreyDave

Audi1234, :unknown: here is bottom line if your are bricking it etc worries just hype up what you would usally put down to too much hot chillie salsa n curry.Vist local Gum easy walk in give a name and dob, tests are done 10 days after the worry making event, for tests and swab (just a q tip in dick )this  gives a quick indication if any probs as they test then and there just set a side a morning for you vist the full results come back by phone 8-10 days. I can not overstate how calm and non judgemental the excellent staff  :angelgirl: are they have heard and seen it all before.

Offline smiths

Well if smiths has a disorder then I suspect many more of us have a similar one. When a newbie poster puts messages on a subject in which we have experience (e.g. GUM clinic visits or LMP) but in our experience looks a bit suspicious, it is natural to look at what else that person has posted. It doesn't take any stalking - 2 clicks of a mouse does it. If that then shows an even more suspicious pattern of posts (like almost all of them being on the same subject) then we can tell the OP what we think and let others consider the OP's motives.

Over the last 24 hours the curious minds on here have proved invaluable in rooting out duplicity of a monumental nature and I welcome the opinions of experienced UKP users in doing likewise with suspicious sounding posts/posters.

Thanks, indeed you are of course correct, what makes me laugh is a poster who has been a member about a month posts i have a disorder, its just classic. ;)

For clarity i dont believe a word the OP posts personally, well dodgy in my view, time will tell if i am right or not.

Offline audi1234


@ audi1234

At first I agreed with smiths and andrei as your posts looked a bit suspicious, but giving you the benefit of the doubt now since you say you suffer from germophobia (I believe the proper term is Mysophobia) calling yourself a sex addict suffering from germophobia is an oxymoron to me. If what you say is true, I would stop punting now and sort the phobia out first, then get back to punting. Otherwise every time you see a prossie you will be agonising thinking you caught this or that and that will ruin what in essence should be a delightful experience.

Yep, you're right...except the punting has to stop, the phobia will remain. My disorder is very specific though (I probably mis-used germophobia/mysophobia) as it only flares up for fear of STDs. Have been told it's a guilt thing but that doesn't mean the risk isn't present. I'm not one of those guys who opens toilet doors with tissues etc, I just massively overreact and think of "what ifs" after a sexual encounter. It is an oxymoron but I have been declared a person with a sex addiction by two therapists (I cannot resist a woman!) it's just that I'm unlucky to always have this "oh no i've slipped up again have I caught something" extended fear after even fully protected oral sex with csw's.

I actually had made massive progress with my addiction and hadn't seen any in a while..until I got wind of these sex parties with ex porn stars. OWO was never, ever part of my vocabulary until this incident (I'm not even gonna bother mentioning LMP now because the wannabe cops here seem to think I'm some sort of imposter). As I say, I won't be getting tested and I even had a chat with a paramedic on the NHS 111 line who said I should be fine not getting tested if it was just the once.

Offline vorian

I don't think Audi has posted anything particularly noteworthy, but smiths seems to have a personality disorder. Smiths refers to Audi as suspicious, yet he (?) has been checking how many posts Audi has made - now THAT is suspicious. Audi comes across as a relatively well-balanced individual. Smiths, if you pm me I can give you some helpline numbers.

Your comments are unnecessary and pointless, smiths always offers excellent well balanced advice about the group scene. So many fake and suspicious members join UKP everyday a dose of healthy scepticism benefits all punters in the long term. Checking posts of new members can often reveal these fakes before they become too established. UKP is a unique forum and thus needs to be thought of very differently to other punting sites.
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Offline andrei

germophobe and diagnosed sex addict?

now i'm certain you live under a bridge
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Offline smiths

Your comments are unnecessary and pointless, smiths always offers excellent well balanced advice about the group scene. So many fake and suspicious members join UKP everyday a dose of healthy scepticism benefits all punters in the long term. Checking posts of new members can often reveal these fakes before they become too established. UKP is a unique forum and thus needs to be thought of very differently to other punting sites.

Thanks for that, he gave me a good chuckle though. ;)

Offline mh

I actually had made massive progress with my addiction and hadn't seen any in a while..until I got wind of these sex parties with ex porn stars. OWO was never, ever part of my vocabulary until this incident (I'm not even gonna bother mentioning LMP now because the wannabe cops here seem to think I'm some sort of imposter). As I say, I won't be getting tested and I even had a chat with a paramedic on the NHS 111 line who said I should be fine not getting tested if it was just the once.

Why on earth would you not want to get checked? Whether or not you are stopping punting at this point you should get yourself checked regularly for your own peace of mind.

I am sorry to disillusion you, but the people on the 111 line are not paramedics.  :lol: They are typically call centre operators reading from a script with nurses on hand to take over more difficult cases. Anyway, since this "paramedic" cannot possibly diagnose you instantly and remotely over the phone I suspect what he said was it was low risk if it was just once and only unprotected oral. Not "fine" or "no risk" but "low risk". It's what they say at the GUM clinic, but at the GUM clinic they do a thorough question and answer session aimed at determining what tests should be done. Then they do some tests. Unless you walked in and said you had engaged in no sexual contact whatsoever with anyone else they would always do some tests, not send you away with "it should be fine".

Offline audi1234

mh - she put me through to a paramedic after an initial discussion. Also, he did say you'll be fine, after saying quite repeatedly that I was at very low risk. But once again I am not going to get into an issue there either! Or else the skeptic society that dwell here will start saying I have it in for the NHS now!

As a side note (as I don't really wish to engage with these other people who aren't staying on topic, get a new hobby lads) i think it's in very poor taste to make a joke about someone's disorder.

Offline vorian

mh - she put me through to a paramedic after an initial discussion. Also, he did say you'll be fine, after saying quite repeatedly that I was at very low risk. But once again I am not going to get into an issue there either! Or else the skeptic society that dwell here will start saying I have it in for the NHS now!

As a side note (as I don't really wish to engage with these other people who aren't staying on topic, get a new hobby lads) i think it's in very poor taste to make a joke about someone's disorder.

Poor taste goes with the territory on here I'm afraid, best to just ignore things you don't like. Zero point in engaging as you said just stick to the topic.
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Offline mh

mh - she put me through to a paramedic after an initial discussion. Also, he did say you'll be fine, after saying quite repeatedly that I was at very low risk. But once again I am not going to get into an issue there either! Or else the skeptic society that dwell here will start saying I have it in for the NHS now!

Put through to a paramedic due to a suspicion of possibly contracting an STI through a low risk sexual activity...   :blush: You do know what a paramedic does? "A paramedic is the senior healthcare professional at an accident or a medical emergency."

"You'll be fine" - I would love to see the medical negligence claim on that one - no professional indemnity insurance policy would cover such a ridiculous statement! I simply don't believe he said what you think you heard. Well if you do contract an STI at least they record all their calls so you'll have a very easy win and he'll never work again.

As a side note (as I don't really wish to engage with these other people who aren't staying on topic, get a new hobby lads) i think it's in very poor taste to make a joke about someone's disorder.

Nobody asked you to reveal your phobias on a public forum - WTF did you expect?

Offline audi1234



Nobody asked you to reveal your phobias on a public forum - WTF did you expect?



fair enough, I wouldn't do it to someone else though personally.

What else can I say, I was told I was being put over to a paramedic. You're right, they are recorded. I wouldn't do something like a lawsuit  though, they're here to help. I went into more detail than I have on this forum with regards to my sexual history, history of hypochondria, and also what exactly happened at the sex party; and he went on to tell me it was low risk and around a 3% chance of an std. I told him I was choosing not to get tested therefore and simply not do this again, and "he said you'll be fine". Think he was just trying to calm me down.

Offline andrei

a paramedic you spoke to on the phone diagnosed you as "you'll be alright"? a diagnosis he could not possibly make without at least running some tests

you're a liar
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Offline audi1234

Or else the skeptic society that dwell here will start saying I have it in for the NHS now!

What did I say! Not gonna bother getting into it. It wasn't a diagnosis though, he diagnosed me as low risk, the "you'll be fine" comment was more of an off the cuff remark to my telling him I would not be getting tested.

Will be ignoring any further comments on the matter but if anyone wants to stay on topic that's fine.

Offline GreyDave

To get tested is to accept what you are and what you do  :cool: if you've a partner then it is very important to do it. 18 days with a covered dick when havin a bunk up is a small price to pay if you really are that worried.
Gum clinics wont question ( or challange you )  :mad: like us lot on this forum. :hi:

Offline andrei

What did I say! Not gonna bother getting into it. It wasn't a diagnosis though, he diagnosed me as low risk, the "you'll be fine" comment was more of an off the cuff remark to my telling him I would not be getting tested.

Will be ignoring any further comments on the matter but if anyone wants to stay on topic that's fine.

they cant "diagnose" you at all over the phone

hence, you're making things up  :hi:
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Curious6705

Put through to a paramedic due to a suspicion of possibly contracting an STI through a low risk sexual activity...   :blush: You do know what a paramedic does? "A paramedic is the senior healthcare professional at an accident or a medical emergency."

Precisely. IMO the OP has posted utter bollocks from first post onwards.  :wackogirl:

Offline Jason

he went on to tell me it was low risk and around a 3% chance of an std. I told him I was choosing not to get tested therefore and simply not do this again, and "he said you'll be fine". Think he was just trying to calm me down.

If what worries you most is HIV then you can be pretty much assured that it is only academically transmissible via OWO – i.e. virtually zero chance and that because the virus cannot live in the saliva (the infectious part gets killed by the salivary acid, so the saliva of HIV +ve people is NOT infectious). You must however worry about the other STIs and especially Chlamydia, Gonorrhoea, HSV-1 and HPV. There is no test for HPV. But as the OWO risk is small then if you punt too often it is best to get checked every 3 months. I personally get tested every 3 months – each time so far  thankfully all results have been –ve (i.e. clean).

This thread shows that some of our members get tested only annually while some others have never visited a GUM clinic or they haven't done so for a decade!!! So the audience you are asking is quite diverse.

Offline audi1234

If what worries you most is HIV then you can be pretty much assured that it is only academically transmissible via OWO – i.e. virtually zero chance and that because the virus cannot live in the saliva (the infectious part gets killed by the salivary acid, so the saliva of HIV +ve people is NOT infectious). You must however worry about the other STIs and especially Chlamydia, Gonorrhoea, HSV-1 and HPV. There is no test for HPV. But as the OWO risk is small then if you punt too often it is best to get checked every 3 months. I personally get tested every 3 months – each time so far  thankfully all results have been –ve (i.e. clean).

This thread shows that some of our members get tested only annually while some others have never visited a GUM clinic or they haven't done so for a decade!!! So the audience you are asking is quite diverse.

Probably the most sensible response I've read to this thread and my question. Thanks for the info as well. Though I have heard the opposite re chlamydia for oral. It does shock me how people do OWO consistently though when these risks are present. It also shows how ridiculous it is to think sex parties are safe just because girls are 'tested'. My fault and hopefully not one I will pay for.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 09:25:55 PM by audi1234 »

Offline andrei

Probably the most sensible response I've read to this thread and my question. Thanks for the info as well. Though I have heard the opposite re chlamydia for oral. It does shock me how people do OWO consistently though when these risks are present. It also shows how ridiculous it is to think sex parties are safe just because girls are 'tested'. My fault and hopefully not one I will pay for.

and there it is!!!

a germophobe sex addict who gets "put through" to a paramedic (did they give you the license number of the ambulance he should have been sat in) on 111 who advises that as long as he is not a naughty boy and does not do owo again he "should be fine" and yet comes on here to lecture us on the safety of owo at sex parties seemingly choosing to ignore the testimony of regular party goers

its been an elaborate ploy from the get go but your tactical skills are terrible

you wont be missed  :hi:
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Offline smiths

and there it is!!!

a germophobe sex addict who gets "put through" to a paramedic (did they give you the license number of the ambulance he should have been sat in) on 111 who advises that as long as he is not a naughty boy and does not do owo again he "should be fine" and yet comes on here to lecture us on the safety of owo at sex parties seemingly choosing to ignore the testimony of regular party goers

its been an elaborate ploy from the get go but your tactical skills are terrible

you wont be missed  :hi:

Yep spot on, that is this posters only interest, its ALL designed to undermine and has been from their first post. Since they were called out as being well dodgy they have posted this utter bollocks as a cobbered together reason. These people are all the same, they post they wont be posting about the subject again but have to as thats their only interest in posting. As usual these people havent the brain power to fool all of us.

ALL punting holds a risk, a punter has to decide what risks he is prepared to take, its not rocket science. ;)

Offline Jason

Probably the most sensible response I've read to this thread and my question. Thanks for the info as well. Though I have heard the opposite re chlamydia for oral. It does shock me how people do OWO consistently though when these risks are present. It also shows how ridiculous it is to think sex parties are safe just because girls are 'tested'. My fault and hopefully not one I will pay for.

For chlamydia it depends whether you exercise deep-throating.

Sex parties are not by any means riskier than individual girls. But I can see why a person might wrongly think so. Psychologically you see that the girls are having sex with 14 men in one session. And per day each girl sees 42 different clients.  HOWEVER on average a girl working in LMP only works 1-2 days. So on average she sees 60 clients per week which is like an individual prossie seeing 10 clients per day Mon-Sat. So the only real difference is that you go with 7 different girls in once as if you have punted every day with individual girls in a week. So it all depends how often you visit these parties.

In any case if the girls are tested and the tests are –ve as they claim then the chance to be infected is v. small as gonorrhoea and chlamydia tests are 90% accurate in 2 and 7 days respectively (and 100% conclusive in 14 and 21 days). So it depends how frequently they are tested and of course if their claims are true (which you should never trust anyway). In most countries where prostitution is regulated prossies are tested every 1-2 weeks...but UK is not one of them.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 10:36:46 PM by Jason »

Offline audi1234

Very informative and educated reply again Jason, and actually slightly more reassuring for me.

Anyway, it appears from the "forum detectives" hi-fiving each other that I am some sort of anti-sex/LMP/NHS/troll (am I getting paid for it, would be nice?!) so I will leave it there with this thread, as it's becoming more about their paranoia than my own. Cheers guys.

Offline andrei

earlier in this thread smiths and then i predicted you would make a claim about lmp and stds and lo and behold you did, theres no detective work there, all you need is the ability to read

you had an agenda and even though you were called out you just ploughed ahead with it

you got found out but just had to get that dig in, what did you expect

the mods here dont suffer touts and those with an agenda gladly, you wont be here much longer, but why would you wanna be by your own admission you need to stop punting so why would you want to continue chatting on a punting forum?
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