ParisB on Mumsnet helping wives catch their husbands

[CoolTiger]

I have just sent 2 private pm to admin and one to Daffodil  as he started this thread originally

I have asked them to keep them private but that is their decision to do so

Should I reply on board later it will be the same as what I have posted to both Adam and Daffodil

There  are one or 2 very personal reasons as to why I don't want to post any explanations right now
 
But I will do later if I think that's what I need to do

Paris, this is bang out of order.
You've driven all UKP traffic to this thread and we've not had any posts in my favourite section, the Regional Threads, for the past 3 hrs.

[Ali Katt]

What excuse could justify these actions, I cannot see Adam or Daffodil falling for anything suspect.

What do you reckon husband found out or she got a stalker? Turned lesbian? Is running for mayor? Is trying to become a mod on mumsnet? Hates men that "cheat"? Had her account hacked by Mark Zuckerberg?

[akauya]

Paris, this is bang out of order.
You've driven all UKP traffic to this thread and we've not had any posts in my favourite section, the Regional Threads, for the past 3 hrs.

Same here. My thread on Soho girls in the London section is all lonely

[hunnieme]

Well one excuse  for her silence that we can ignore is Paris's friends and family finding out what she does for a living as she told me when I punted with her that they all knew anyway.

[vorian]

What do you reckon husband found out or she got a stalker? Turned lesbian? Is running for mayor? Is trying to become a mod on mumsnet? Hates men that "cheat"? Had her account hacked by Mark Zuckerberg?

I'm voting for she picked up a stalker, this seem to be a standard go to position for prossies who get caught out. Of course this would have to be a professional hacker who plans years ahead. Must be that guy from the "Following".

[Daffodil]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

[cornbeefinspector]

Sorry are you saying that she had good intent by helping wifes expose their punting husbands and she is a working and active prossie. How can any good intent be involved. 

as I said , she did not think it thru, and was being loyal to her "sister" when she would have been better thinking of her income supply, and the long term of the people she was actively trying to seperate

[vorian]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

So what are her personal reasons for not wanting to share this information, apart from it being bullshit of the highest order.

[vorian]

as I said , she did not think it thru, and was being loyal to her "sister" when she would have been better thinking of her income supply, and the long term of the people she was actively trying to seperate

OK fucking over one punter maybe considered a mistake but offering to help fuck over other punters is a pattern.

[ParisB]

What do you reckon husband found out or she got a stalker? Turned lesbian? Is running for mayor? Is trying to become a mod on mumsnet? Hates men that "cheat"? Had her account hacked by Mark Zuckerberg?

Don't you honestly think that if I could defend myself and give you an explanation I would  I don't like this happening to me one bit , I've always posted on here in a fair way always tried to be helpful on both here and on Saafe to both punters and escorts alike.

But if explaining means  that I have to admit to something else that is personal to me then I don't want to so I would rather take the personal insults and all the hatred directed at me .

I know that I didn't write that post. I know who did write it and while it won't mean anything to any of you guys it certainly does to me

[hunnieme]

 I have been reading Paris's posts on punting forums for many years and the style of writing sure seems similar to hers.

[Ali Katt]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

I don't buy it, simply because Paris doesn't strike me as being dumb and naive.

[cornbeefinspector]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

so the mystery girl was smart enought to use Parisbs log in on mumsnet, but not smart enought tp make herself a listing on aw  and get herself off the street, and she must have known about AW as she offered to help the wives navagate the site, yup she thinks we are all as dumb as she is           <==== paris

[Daffodil]

Don't you honestly think that if I could defend myself and give you an explanation I would  I don't like this happening to me one bit , I've always posted on here in a fair way always tried to be helpful on both here and on Saafe to both punters and escorts alike.

But if explaining means  that I have to admit to something else that is personal to me then I don't want to so I would rather take the personal insults and all the hatred directed at me .

I know that I didn't write that post. I know who did write it and while it won't mean anything to any of you guys it certainly does to me

Why didn't you get the posts deleted afterwards? I have no doubt the mumsnetters would have sent the odd pm, one even says as much below.

[vorian]

Don't you honestly think that if I could defend myself and give you an explanation I would  I don't like this happening to me one bit , I've always posted on here in a fair way always tried to be helpful on both here and on Saafe to both punters and escorts alike.

But if explaining means  that I have to admit to something else that is personal to me then I don't want to so I would rather take the personal insults and all the hatred directed at me .

I know that I didn't write that post. I know who did write it and while it won't mean anything to any of you guys it certainly does to me

If you knowingly gave someone your PIN number to your bank account and they stole your money, you would have to pay the price. Why did you give another person your AW password and why were the MN posts only deleted after this thread was started.

[like_mature]

Who was it then? Your Mum, your sister? Your daughter?

Funny how you know so much but say so little.
Yes you have always tried to be helpful, clearly your downfall as you are so keen to be liked that you sold your soul by biting the hand that feeds you. I'm sure you would happily fuck the husbands of your friends on MN whilst trying to be Miss Popular on that site too.

[CoolTiger]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

So a high class escort like Paris befriends and allows a streetworker, who only advertises in local rags, to work from her upmarket apartment, and does not even suggest to her to get her own website done nor help her friend get an AW profile. So much for helping her.

[vorian]

Don't you honestly think that if I could defend myself and give you an explanation I would  I don't like this happening to me one bit , I've always posted on here in a fair way always tried to be helpful on both here and on Saafe to both punters and escorts alike.

But if explaining means  that I have to admit to something else that is personal to me then I don't want to so I would rather take the personal insults and all the hatred directed at me .

I know that I didn't write that post. I know who did write it and while it won't mean anything to any of you guys it certainly does to me

For me this isnt a minor mistake that can be swept under the carpet. This is not about you taking some personal insults or "Hatred" directed at you on the chin. This is far more serious and can not be left to lie imho. You are a service provider who have tried to fuck over your customers in the worst way possible. I really don't care about your personal reasons, they weren't good enough for Daffodil.

[mh]

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

3 hours to produce that? Oh dearie, dearie me. What a load of bullcrap. None of it stacks up.

[Ali Katt]

So a high class escort like Paris befriends and allows a streetworker, who only advertises in local rags, to work from her upmarket apartment, and does not even suggest to her to get her own website done nor help her friend get an AW profile. So much for helping her.

In her defence at least it's an original excuse.

[Tailpipe]

3 hours to produce that? Oh dearie, dearie me. What a load of bullcrap. None of it stacks up.

I have to agree this is a long time to produce so little information.

[vorian]

Selling your body for sex is something I can fully respect.

Selling your soul for the approval of Mumsnet frankly disgustes me beyond my ability to express.

[Daffodil]

I have to agree this is a long time to produce so little information.

There's a bit more info in the pm (concerning who the mystery prossie is), but I thought I'd let Adam take the lead on that.

[cornbeefinspector]

In her defence at least it's an original excuse.

no it's not, like all others before her, she has blamed someone else, and she has had 3hours to come up with something better.

sadly this will soon be forgotten for the most part, and she will still get clients to fuck her, but I wont be one of them, not that i ever would have been , deff not my type , not even if she paid me

[vorian]

I've heard the excuse and I don't believe it, and have said as much to Adam and ParisB.

Essentially she has made up another prossie (whose existence cannot be substantiated as she works the street and only advertises in the paper) who worked out of Paris' place for a bit and used her log-in to make those posts on mumsnet.

Even if that was true, are we really to believe that Paris only became aware of the posts after I started this thread? Would she not have wondered what all the mumsnetters, who were sending her pms, were on about? She could have had the posts deleted then.

Any chance this time we could bend the rules and have you cut and paste her PM as I am still a bit unclear as to what has been said by her in defense. I know sharing PM's is not the done thing but under the circumstances 

Sorry just saw your comment about Adam taking the lead on this.

[PuntingPete]

Let's say the shoe was on the other foot for a minute - I take pity on a guy who is having a rough time of it & agree to put him up for a while. Without my knowledge he then logs into my UKP account and posts as me. Do you think I would not notice that when I look at posts I had commented on, It would not be immediately obvious that he had made posts unbeknown to me?

[Daffodil]

Let's say the shoe was on the other foot for a minute - I take pity on a guy who is having a rough time of it & agree to put him up for a while. Without my knowledge he then logs into my UKP account and posts as me. Do you think I would not notice that when I look at posts I had commented on, It would not be immediately obvious that he had made posts unbeknown to me?

Exactly. I don't buy the first part of the story to be honest, but of course she'd have known the posts had been made. The post would have generated personal messages on mumsnet as well.

[vorian]

Exactly. I don't buy the first part of the story to be honest, but of course she'd have known the posts had been made. The post would have generated personal messages on mumsnet as well.

Surely she would have to have know as on that thread offering free inside help to catch out cheating husbands would have been leapt upon by suspicious wifes. That sort of information is very valuable and as you said would have generated a lot of traffic that could not have been missed.

[Tailpipe]

There's a bit more info in the pm (concerning who the mystery prossie is), but I thought I'd let Adam take the lead on that.

Thanks for outing this as my marriage (was shit one anyway) was fucked by someone giving my EX info about my fav pastime , its the lowest of the low.
Wished I had a shit job as British Law makes husband pay and pay and pay.

Fucking take the money and keep your month shut is the message to WGs , its the nightmare that every punt dreads.
 

[Daffodil]

Hi all

If you can be patient with me for 20 mins I can and will explain
Charlearose was most defiantly my user name

But I most defiantly did not write that or any of the other post on how to catch guys out why on earth would I
I am posting this on my phone so give me 20 mins or so and I will have full Internet access


I have not used that account on mumsnet for over a year at least my last post was I think march 2013 and I had all my post deleted back then due to other reasons

I have no problems with this thread staying up on here as its a valuable post

This is a lie, and a hugely obvious one. She actually admits to it in the pm she sent to me.

I saw the posts the other day, when I posted this thread. They were deleted after this thread was posted, not 'back then due to other reasons'.

Telling such a blatant lie and then expecting us to believe anything else that is posted? 

[vorian]

This is a lie, and a hugely obvious one. She actually admits to it in the pm she sent to me.

I saw the posts the other day, when I posted this thread. They were deleted after this thread was posted, not 'back then due to other reasons'.

Telling such a blatant lie and then expecting us to believe anything else that is posted? 

She is in panic mode, I am under no illusion that UKP has the membership volume or power to destroy any prossies business but it is growing everyday and has enough influence to put a dent in future earnings. One thing a prossy can not do is hide from the punters on here who have very long memories.

[cornbeefinspector]

who ever posted it on mumsnet, stated they knew about AW and how it worked and how they could find information on their husbands, and that she (the poster) could help

are we expected to believe this was  a street walker!!!!!!!

[vorian]

who ever posted it on mumsnet, stated they knew about AW and how it worked and how they could find information on their husbands, and that she (the poster) could help

are we expected to believe this was  a street walker!!!!!!!

Why would a street walker bother with this, surely now days they would be more bothered about either getting off the streets or where the next fix was coming from.

[CatBBW]

If it *IS* Paris, what would she have thought she would be gaining by befriending the 'Boden Massive' (as she always called MumsNet)? Paris is a very successful prostitute from what I gather, highly thought of, lots of regulars, a very decent income... So why would she suddenly want to help women catch out their cheating punter husbands? The very same husbands who are all potential clients?

I get that us prozzies are start raving bonkers, but I just don't understand what the motivation behind ^^^THIS^^^ could possibly be?

[vorian]

Don't you honestly think that if I could defend myself and give you an explanation I would  I don't like this happening to me one bit , I've always posted on here in a fair way always tried to be helpful on both here and on Saafe to both punters and escorts alike.

But if explaining means  that I have to admit to something else that is personal to me then I don't want to so I would rather take the personal insults and all the hatred directed at me .

I know that I didn't write that post. I know who did write it and while it won't mean anything to any of you guys it certainly does to me

Interesting to see that she has not condemned the person who she alleges used her account to post this stuff, at least I would have expected an apology.

[a10]

We don't have to believe anything as it's all clearly bollocks  It's a pathetic attempt at covering her deceitful, two-faced approach to things and it ain't going to wash on here! I'm surprised she hasn't been banned already. As long as enough punters in her area are aware of what she's been up to, her business is fucked anyway. The influence of UKP will see to that.

[cornbeefinspector]

If it *IS* Paris, what would she have thought she would be gaining by befriending the 'Boden Massive' (as she always called MumsNet)? Paris is a very successful prostitute from what I gather, highly thought of, lots of regulars, a very decent income... So why would she suddenly want to help women catch out their cheating punter husbands? The very same husbands who are all potential clients?

I get that us prozzies are start raving bonkers, but I just don't understand what the motivation behind ^^^THIS^^^ could possibly be?

because she has low self esteem and needs to be loved wanted , thats why

[vorian]

If it *IS* Paris, what would she have thought she would be gaining by befriending the 'Boden Massive' (as she always called MumsNet)? Paris is a very successful prostitute from what I gather, highly thought of, lots of regulars, a very decent income... So why would she suddenly want to help women catch out their cheating punter husbands? The very same husbands who are all potential clients?

I get that us prozzies are start raving bonkers, but I just don't understand what the motivation behind ^^^THIS^^^ could possibly be?

"Why" is the question she is refusing to answer. Why indeed.

[Daffodil]

This is absolutely the most fucked up thing a prossie can do.

It ruins lives, absolutely ruins them. Families get destroyed, children lose fathers and happy homes.

And there's no reason to it. It's not like the punter has scorned her in some way (which still isn't an excuse in the vast majority of cases). It's senseless and random destruction of people. Disgraceful.

[Tailpipe]

If it *IS* Paris, what would she have thought she would be gaining by befriending the 'Boden Massive' (as she always called MumsNet)? Paris is a very successful prostitute from what I gather, highly thought of, lots of regulars, a very decent income... So why would she suddenly want to help women catch out their cheating punter husbands? The very same husbands who are all potential clients?

I get that us prozzies are start raving bonkers, but I just don't understand what the motivation behind ^^^THIS^^^ could possibly be?

You make a fair but "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" I have seen and experienced woman from all walks of life
do things that are totally without logic and harmful to themselves and others , once that switched is flicked a scorned
woman seems to be capable of almost anything  , without care or attention to anything.

The Ruth fullness in which they execute , never fails to amaze me . They often reflect with more logic. 

[vorian]

This is absolutely the most fucked up thing a prossie can do.

It ruins lives, absolutely ruins them. Families get destroyed, children lose fathers and happy homes.

And there's no reason to it. It's not like the punter has scorned her in some way (which still isn't an excuse in the vast majority of cases). It's senseless and random destruction of people. Disgraceful.

I am current going though any mention of her name or AW number on UKP and posting a link to this thread. She was given a chance to explain but chose not to.

[Tailpipe]

This is absolutely the most fucked up thing a prossie can do.

It ruins lives, absolutely ruins them. Families get destroyed, children lose fathers and happy homes.

And there's no reason to it. It's not like the punter has scorned her in some way (which still isn't an excuse in the vast majority of cases). It's senseless and random destruction of people. Disgraceful.

100% correct and its how in impacts on kids and families that makes this type of action a total disgrace.

[CatBBW]

This is absolutely the most fucked up thing a prossie can do.

It ruins lives, absolutely ruins them. Families get destroyed, children lose fathers and happy homes.

And there's no reason to it. It's not like the punter has scorned her in some way (which still isn't an excuse in the vast majority of cases). It's senseless and random destruction of people. Disgraceful.

Totally agree. That's why I can't get my head round why a successful prossie would feel the need to do such a thing? I am completely baffled why anyone would want to kill their biz so effectively?

I really am struggling to see ANY logic or sense in any of it.

[mh]

From the Mumsnet thread:

charlearose: "if you (or anyone else's ) want to drop me an pm - i can help you navigate the site and tell you how you might be able to find your dh login details ect and exactly how the site works"

AnyFucker: "for anyone considering pm'ing charlea but hesitating, I can confirm she has helped people with this before"

I do not believe that this "help" is something that an impersonator could possibly do without the account owner getting immediate email notifications of PMs. I suppose the street walker without her own PC or AW account was in full control of ParisB's email account too. I note from the thread that the impersonator was also an expert on cloning of Blackberry email settings. 

[mh]

Totally agree. That's why I can't get my head round why a successful prossie would feel the need to do such a thing? I am completely baffled why anyone would want to kill their biz so effectively?

I really am struggling to see ANY logic or sense in any of it.

The logic and sense are indeed missing. But I'm afraid that all the evidence points to ParisB having done this herself and now concocting a ludicrous story full of holes to insult our intelligence.

[Mr Jones]

Message to ParisB. As of TODAY, your career is FINISHED.

[vorian]

I am current going though any mention of her name or AW number on UKP and posting a link to this thread. She was given a chance to explain but chose not to.

All links posted now, it will mean some old threads are bumped, so my apologies for that.

[The President]

How many marriages ruined? How many children now in a split relationship?

Whatever reasons the bloke does this for the children didn't deserve her despicable action

I have no doubt its her "/

She should be put in the UKP stocks and flogged :/

Inexcusable

[cornbeefinspector]

Message to ParisB. As of TODAY, your career is FINISHED.

sadly it wont be, but  maybe we will see a reduction in her rates

[SirPhilipXX]

Everyone's posting as though this has just happened, but that thread on mumsnet was posted between September and November 2012, wasn't it?
I find it hard to get all worked up now about something a WG did a year and a half ago.