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Author Topic: ParisB on Mumsnet helping wives catch their husbands  (Read 162995 times)

Offline NIK

Some guys slating the censorship of PN yet the subject of this thread was banned very early on after the revelations.  Dig the irony.  I would liked to have heard more of PB's version of events and her defence as the case grew against her.

There is no irony. A prossy who has behaved as she has done has no place on a punters forum. Rather the irony is that a forum called auto-censored doesn't have the punter's interest at heart in any shape or form.

I think that's an offensive opinion to prossies in general who have never tried to out punters on mumsnet.

With respect, I think that's twisting my words.  I'm sure we'd all agree that clients and WGs alike assume that all parties will be discreet and respect each other's privacy.  It's the unwritten rule without which lots of clients wouldn't punt and lots of WGs wouldn't choose their line of work.

I'm just trying to keep this topic on what ParisB has done, rather than what she might do.  She has done plenty, after all.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 05:48:15 PM by DJ Fruit Polo »

Offline vorian

With respect, I think that's twisting my words.  I'm sure we'd all agree that clients and WGs alike assume that all parties will be discreet and respect each other's privacy.  It's the unwritten rule without which lots of clients wouldn't punt and lots of WGs wouldn't choose their line of work.

I'm just trying to keep this topic on what ParisB has done, rather than what she might do.  She has done plenty, after all.

OK I see your point of view, so out of interest, what would you say to a newbie who wanted to book ParisB.

If they were single and had no one they could be outed to.

Or

If they were married/in relationship and had people they could be outed to.

Would you say to one or both of them they would be safe to punt with ParisB as there is no evidence to say she has directly outed any of her clients.
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OK I see your point of view, so out of interest, what would you say to a newbie who wanted to book ParisB.

If they were single and had no one they could be outed to.

Or

If they were married/in relationship and had people they could be outed to.

Would you say to one or both of them they would be safe to punt with ParisB as there is no evidence to say she has directly outed any of her clients.

I'm not in a position to recommend (or otherwise) anyone that I haven't actually visited myself.  All you can really do when asked about a lady you've no personal knowledge of is to point them in the direction of those who are able to give an informed opinion, such as reviews and threads on this site, and allow them make up their own minds.

Of course, searching on "ParisB" here will bring up this very thread, which would be likely to put most people off!  I must confess that if I had been interested in her before then I really wouldn't be now...

Offline Topot

OK I see your point of view, so out of interest, what would you say to a newbie who wanted to book ParisB.

If they were single and had no one they could be outed to.

Or

If they were married/in relationship and had people they could be outed to.

Would you say to one or both of them they would be safe to punt with ParisB as there is no evidence to say she has directly outed any of her clients.


Maybe tell them it's not about being careful about what information you give her but making sure you don't do anything stupid like punt with with your actual phone, use your real email for aw, keep a logged in AW profile...

What she did was bang out of order because she gave the tools of how to track a punter has been with an escort not if a certain punter had been with her. I think this is actually worse as it's not personal and effects every single punter.

I doubt all the women on MN were/are from Bristol where Paris is from and I doubt Paris remembers any more about a punter than how long they took too leave after they punted and how much they gave her... don't think she kept a diary so she could match the hundreds of punters she met to the amount of women she was talking too.

That's what I would tell a regular or a new punter, don't do anything stupid that will make it easy for your spouse to catch you.

Offline vorian


Maybe tell them it's not about being careful about what information you give her but making sure you don't do anything stupid like punt with with your actual phone, use your real email for aw, keep a logged in AW profile...

What she did was bang out of order because she gave the tools of how to track a punter has been with an escort not if a certain punter had been with her. I think this is actually worse as it's not personal and effects every single punter.

I doubt all the women on MN were/are from Bristol where Paris is from and I doubt Paris remembers any more about a punter than how long they took too leave after they punted and how much they gave her... don't think she kept a diary so she could match the hundreds of punters she met to the amount of women she was talking too.

That's what I would tell a regular or a new punter, don't do anything stupid that will make it easy for your spouse to catch you.

All good advice, in general but would you advise even with all this protection a newbie punter to punt with ParisB.
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Offline Topot

All good advice, in general but would you advise even with all this protection a newbie punter to punt with ParisB.

I just answered you. If the question you are asking is what would I advise to a newbie punter who wanted to punt with Paris, it would be the same I would advise to any other punter....

Don't do anything that would make it easy for your spouse to catch you.

Offline vorian

I just answered you. If the question you are asking is what would I advise to a newbie punter who wanted to punt with Paris, it would be the same I would advise to any other punter....

Don't do anything that would make it easy for your spouse to catch you.

So what she has done would have no bearing on your advice at all, her actions should have no consequence for her personally. You would say to a newbie it is OK to see her as long as you protect yourself as you should with any prossie.
 
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OK I see your point of view, so out of interest, what would you say to a newbie who wanted to book ParisB.

If they were single and had no one they could be outed to.

Or

If they were married/in relationship and had people they could be outed to.

Would you say to one or both of them they would be safe to punt with ParisB as there is no evidence to say she has directly outed any of her clients.

I would start with the tried and trusted:  "Never trust a pro$$ie" and go from there.

So the answer to both questions would be YES on the basis is applies to any pro$$ie that you book for a punt.

At the moment ParisB is fast becoming a curiosity fuck more than a danger fuck!

The valuable lesson or instruction to a newbie is not to divulge any personal information about yourself at anytime. There are so many good tips and advice on various threads on this forum. Lessons learnt from seasoned/hardened punters over time.

Offline Dani

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It would also be wise to add, never give a prossie your AW username as that is how she helped these women find out about their husbands, A few saw the open page and the username and this is how Paris was able to find out how many escorts he had seen via feedback as well as how long he had been a member as well as what services he was looking for (lots of men fill out profiles) as well as which escorts he had booked.  If they dont know his username all they have to do is click on forgot username or password and they send a link to the registered email address and most punters use their normal email addy and most wives know the password to their partners email

Offline Topot

So what she has done would have no bearing on your advice at all, her actions should have no consequence for her personally. You would say to a newbie it is OK to see her as long as you protect yourself as you should with any prossie.

Prossies aren't meant to be replacement gf's/wives. You don't need to like them, respect them or even care about their morals. You just need to find them attractive and want to fuck them.

I can see where you stand on it and I know where I stand on it.... Regardless of what I or you think, punters will do what ever they want to do. So it's not about saying whether it's ok or not ok to go see her which I think is the point your going on about but rather about keeping the punter safe and clued up.

So yes, what she did was a shitty thing to do, but no I'm not gonna give my 2 cents as to whether a punter should go and see her cause punters will do what they want.

Online James999

At the moment ParisB is fast becoming a curiosity fuck more than a danger fuck!

More like a charity fuck  :crazy:

She needs to start saving up to get those joke tits sorted  :scare:

Prossies aren't meant to be replacement gf's/wives. You don't need to like them, respect them or even care about their morals. You just need to find them attractive and want to fuck them.

I can see where you stand on it and I know where I stand on it.... Regardless of what I or you think, punters will do what ever they want to do. So it's not about saying whether it's ok or not ok to go see her which I think is the point your going on about but rather about keeping the punter safe and clued up.

So yes, what she did was a shitty thing to do, but no I'm not gonna give my 2 cents as to whether a punter should go and see her cause punters will do what they want.

This is the bottom line.  No-one likes being told what they can and can't do, but....forewarned is forearmed. This is where this thread helps us punters realise they shouldn't leave things to luck, before they fuck.

Hogan

If you knew a drug-dealer was helping the police to catch as many drug users as possible, but had no evidence that he got any of his customers jailed, would you still trust him to use his services?  :crazy:

Offline vorian

This is the bottom line.  No-one likes being told what they can and can't do, but....forewarned is forearmed. This is where this thread helps us punters realise they shouldn't leave things to luck, before they fuck.

It seems we have two issues one of warnings and direct punter safety which is down to the punter to protect themselves, ok I get that.

However imho also an issue that what she did was wrong, that has ramifications beyond those for individual punters.
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If you knew a drug-dealer was helping the police to catch as many drug users as possible, but had no evidence that he got any of his customers jailed, would you still trust him to use his services?  :crazy:

Aaah, I see where you're going with this.  :D

Yes, assuming I had nothing to lose...but I would cover my tracks and meet on my terms.

Offline Daffodil

With respect, I think that's twisting my words.  I'm sure we'd all agree that clients and WGs alike assume that all parties will be discreet and respect each other's privacy.  It's the unwritten rule without which lots of clients wouldn't punt and lots of WGs wouldn't choose their line of work.

I'm just trying to keep this topic on what ParisB has done, rather than what she might do.  She has done plenty, after all.

I'm not twisting your words, or at least not trying to.

You seem to imply that seeing ParisB is just as risky as seeing any other prossie.

That is what I think is nonsense. When she has been shown to try to out punters on mumsnet then you must be, at least, higher risk.

Offline Strawberry

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The majority of punters do use pseudonyms, have punting phones etc.

It's also been said numerous times that auto-censored is now a prossie orientated site.

Is there anything new to be gleaned from this episode?

It seems we have two issues one of warnings and direct punter safety which is down to the punter to protect themselves, ok I get that.

However imho also an issue that what she did was wrong, that has ramifications beyond those for individual punters.

Yes, it was, and no doubt her HMRC returns will reflect this.

This thread has made anyone that has read it, more savvy. Also, made a few pro$$ies realise that certain practices will not be tolerated.

Offline Topot

It seems we have two issues one of warnings and direct punter safety which is down to the punter to protect themselves, ok I get that.

However imho also an issue that what she did was wrong, that has ramifications beyond those for individual punters.

I agree. That's what my previous post was about, not the actual punters she has seen cause lets all be realistic... If she outed the punters that came to see her it would have been all over here, PN Etc etc She would have lost all her regulars, had no clients and would no longer be working... So I doubt it was her own clients. So if you have seen her... no need to keep shitting bricks.

It's the bigger deal that she exposed how any punter can be tracked and caught, those who are new the game and old timers. I think everyone on this thread agrees that a) it was her and not her cracked head sister and b) it was bang out of order.

So punters should learn from this and be vigilant is keeping punting secret.

Offline vorian

I'm not twisting your words, or at least not trying to.

You seem to imply that seeing ParisB is just as risky as seeing any other prossie.

That is what I think is nonsense. When she has been shown to try to out punters on mumsnet then you must be, at least, higher risk.

If nothing else her actions show that she does not consider punter safety an issue that a prossie should take seriously. Yes of course a punter should protect themselves at all times and of course never trust a WG but surely part of the large amounts of money you pay is for that discretion.

 ParisB was not some newbie kid on the block, but an established so called professional who was well respected (By punters and prossies) and well reviewed on UKP. It was proven her loyalties were to nameless strangers on Mumsnet over the people who paid her large sums of money for that discretion.

   
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Online James999

Is there anything new to be gleaned from this episode?

What do you mean ?

Offline GeeWiz

That's a fair point of view may I ask what you personally think of the evidence against her on this thread, have for example you read it all if you have, what version of events  do you think ParisB could have posted when faced with the information that was uncovered.

Personally I agree I would have liked to been able to question her more but that is not my call, it's Adam and Nik's.

I've read and followed the thread plus commented my opinion.  Just think it would have been better to let her keep the spade and keep digging rather than have it out of sight in PMs on PN/AW.

The majority of punters do use pseudonyms, have punting phones etc.

It's also been said numerous times that auto-censored is now a prossie orientated site.

Is there anything new to be gleaned from this episode?

The fact that they have recently censored/deleted posts/banned members who don't agree with their opinions, it's now just purely another advertising medium for pro$$ies.

The thing is, only other pro$$ies will visit there, so the business strategy is now corrupt.  :hi:

« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 07:45:36 PM by NIK »

Offline Aspen

It would also be wise to add, never give a prossie your AW username as that is how she helped these women find out about their husbands

That's an interesting idea. Loads of them ask.

Do you suggest we refuse to provide the answer?

I don't think a booking will result from that.
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