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Offline dmitrybulgakov

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I would say thats not a bad result out of 15, as long as they weren't asking for stupid amounts to meet!

Did you end up meeting the 2?

Yes did meet them for a meet n greet.
One has gone in isolation due to track n trace
Other wants to be paid for platonic dates before the deed. I said, she should be paying me instead.. She is hot though, and would love to give her in the arse.
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Offline Bobbins1973

To be fair , in my experience anyway, its also a lot more fun. To me adultwork has become dreary and its offerings now seem to be lots of uninterested jaded and worn around the edges ladies at best and at worst the usual Romanian bad experience.
I just find SA now more exciting as it reminds me of the early days of punting when you looked forward to an encounter rather than how i find it has become now you start off with the wrong intentions of wondering how bad the lady will be and how poor the service can be.

I must admit I would still give some skanky street walker a right good hard fucking if the mood or opportunity stuck me but even the days of street walkers are more of less gone.

I’ve not used AW since I joined here other than getting in touch with my regular goto girl when I’ve been flaked on the day but wasn’t paying her hourly rates - hate being on the clock
Still browse to see who’s knocking about but it’s mainly trafficked Roms, Cammers or new girls offering bareback and silly rates

Offline ablaze

I’ve not used AW since I joined here other than getting in touch with my regular goto girl when I’ve been flaked on the day but wasn’t paying her hourly rates - hate being on the clock
Still browse to see who’s knocking about but it’s mainly trafficked Roms, Cammers or new girls offering bareback and silly rates

i agree, AW is now shit.
Seeking is much more exciting, and the girls actually get horny and wet, unlike the jaded AW pros.
however its hard work, with all the messaging to and fro, to get to the meet stage...but so worth it

Offline Mr Sinister

the girls actually get horny and wet, unlike the jaded AW pros.


Can't be beaten with civvies getting wet having natural attraction and intimacy.

Wg for me are purely P&D I very rarely do more than 15 minutes sessions. It's a massive turnoff when they lube up.

Are you going for it then?.
I moved about 15 quality girls to WA, and guess what only 2 to meet up. Rest are all offering pics and videos.

Not worth imho.

This is becoming more and more a thing with the boom in onlyfans/cam sites there are girls infesting social dating platforms with no intention to meet but only do virtual stuff thinking they can make easy money.

Imo they need to get booted off really muddies the waters.
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Is it? i know its not a competition and there are so many variables (such as locations, what you seek, what you are prepared to pay etc) but it made me think about my "statistics" so i had a quick count up.

In my 7 months on SA, i have got 75 ladies onto WA -  I ended up blocking 12 of them (as they were either not very pleasant to chat to or asking stupid amounts - even for what is an expensive area), i have had sex with 14 different ladies and seen 2 others in non sexual meets (no payments made).

Of the 14, 8 have been more or less straight sex meets (5 only once, 3 several times), 4 have been meals and sex and 2 have been more social and sex - eg nice restuarants, spending time together on the beach, walks or whatever and weekends away etc.

Ok i am not perhaps a "typical" SA user from UKP , and i have been able to spend a far amount of time on SA and have spent a far bit of money but i dont look at AW at all now. The thing that is perhaps obvious from what i have said here, is that i am not, as it seems some/most here are, just looking for a quick cheap fu*k but also very pleasant company and fun too.

I agree with the gentleman here. The result involves 3 major cities of Scotland. In Aberdeen the number would have been absolute shit.
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I met a real beauty from SA a few months ago which you just wouldn't get on AW. I was amazed at just how good looking she was and great sex.

Offline Danj89

i agree, AW is now shit.
Seeking is much more exciting, and the girls actually get horny and wet, unlike the jaded AW pros.
however its hard work, with all the messaging to and fro, to get to the meet stage...but so worth it
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Offline billybobsmith

Signed up again for the month and already been blocked by one woman.  She messaged me 3 months ago, so I responded just now.  Don't think she was too pleased ;)

Got another without WA, but is happy to text.  Any potential issues there short of maybe hiding her identity a bit?

Messaging is really messed up.  Not refreshing properly and showing messages from months ago and not the new replies, so I either had to double click on messages, or go through their profiles.
Chatting to a couple of local girls.  One I know is on OnlyFans as I saw her on Tinder, so I'll see how long it takes for her to drop that one.

Offline billybobsmith

Anyone had any experience of anyone from Hull?  Messaging a few in Lincolnshire, the Hull area etc. and one from Hull has given me her number.

Getting a few favourites and messages from Nottingham and London at present.

Not sure if any are on AW or in parlours.  Had a quick look, but as you can't always see the face, not sure.

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After being banned about a month back, I went and created a new account (new name, new email, new address, new payment card, new photos, new everything)

Creating the profile was fine but when submitting payment details with Revolut (disposable card) I was immediately logged out and I was suspended due to potentially fraudulent activity. Worth noting I also had a VPN on at the time via web browser.

I've sent in emails to support to figure out why this has happened, but wanted to ask do you guys think:

- I was banned due to the VPN
- due to the Revolut payment card
- something else?

I really can't figure out what's going wrong, and really want to get back in to find the girls I was chatting to before getting initially banned.


Offline punterstanding

After being banned about a month back, I went and created a new account (new name, new email, new address, new payment card, new photos, new everything)

Creating the profile was fine but when submitting payment details with Revolut (disposable card) I was immediately logged out and I was suspended due to potentially fraudulent activity. Worth noting I also had a VPN on at the time via web browser.

I've sent in emails to support to figure out why this has happened, but wanted to ask do you guys think:

- I was banned due to the VPN
- due to the Revolut payment card
- something else?

I really can't figure out what's going wrong, and really want to get back in to find the girls I was chatting to before getting initially banned.

It's most likely the VPN, I've had login difficulty when using one. If you really need the VPN, try using one with obfuscated servers (Nord VPN for example)

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I am using NordVPN which is odd.

I'll try getting the account unblocked and then try a payment without the VPN on

Offline ik8133

I am using NordVPN which is odd.

I'll try getting the account unblocked and then try a payment without the VPN on

You could check out Secret Benefits, see what's available around your area on there, just a thought.

Offline Bobbins1973

After being banned about a month back, I went and created a new account (new name, new email, new address, new payment card, new photos, new everything)

Creating the profile was fine but when submitting payment details with Revolut (disposable card) I was immediately logged out and I was suspended due to potentially fraudulent activity. Worth noting I also had a VPN on at the time via web browser.

I've sent in emails to support to figure out why this has happened, but wanted to ask do you guys think:

- I was banned due to the VPN
- due to the Revolut payment card
- something else?

I really can't figure out what's going wrong, and really want to get back in to find the girls I was chatting to before getting initially banned.

How long since banned - don’t you have to wait 6 months for GSP/GDP or whatever info they have on you  to clear ?

Offline punterstanding

I am using NordVPN which is odd.

I'll try getting the account unblocked and then try a payment without the VPN on

Standard server or obfuscated? You have to enable the latter

Online jokaa

How long since banned - don’t you have to wait 6 months for GSP/GDP or whatever info they have on you  to clear ?

Yeh but I thought if I use completely new info how would they know?

Online jokaa

Standard server or obfuscated? You have to enable the latter

Got ya. Didn't enable it. I'll try that!

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Creating the profile was fine but when submitting payment details with Revolut (disposable card) I was immediately logged out and I was suspended due to potentially fraudulent activity.

No VPN here but I signed up with my Revolut all okay thankfully.

Decided to pull the trigger with the 33% discount. So far managed to get 7 numbers. 1 wanted to keep it online which is a no for me. The others seem interested though and are up for meeting so will try and arrange but can never tell who will be genuine and who will flake. It's difficult as I want to remain discrete and anonymous online too and I keep forgetting their not on AW so they want pictures of me. I also don't know how legit these people are. It feels like a TOFTT on here when someone posts a link on AW and there's no reviews. How does everyone determine if a profile is genuine?

I suppose I can arrange a phone call in advance but besides that, I feel I'm taking a risk booking a hotel/air bnb for a no show. Fingers crossed.

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Happy to say I"m back on. In the end I did pay with Revolut but through Google Play.

Thanks all!

Offline billybobsmith

No VPN here but I signed up with my Revolut all okay thankfully.

Decided to pull the trigger with the 33% discount. So far managed to get 7 numbers. 1 wanted to keep it online which is a no for me. The others seem interested though and are up for meeting so will try and arrange but can never tell who will be genuine and who will flake. It's difficult as I want to remain discrete and anonymous online too and I keep forgetting their not on AW so they want pictures of me. I also don't know how legit these people are. It feels like a TOFTT on here when someone posts a link on AW and there's no reviews. How does everyone determine if a profile is genuine?

I suppose I can arrange a phone call in advance but besides that, I feel I'm taking a risk booking a hotel/air bnb for a no show. Fingers crossed.

Got 3 numbers at present.  2 in my town and one in a near-by town.
2 are possibly single mothers, the other I'm not sure about, not that it would bother me anyway.  Major issue is I can't remember exactly what was in their profiles i.e. age, location, what they said etc.
A few haven't been online much, or looked at me and turned lesbian.

Still getting a lot of favouriting (and the odd message) from London, Glasgow / Paisley, and since they're nowhere near me, I'm ignoring them.

I've never been good at telling which profiles are good or bad.  Sure, as with AW, there are some that look too good too be true, so probably worth avoiding those.  That said, if you're fairly anonymous, then there's no harm in trying everyone.  At the end of the day, it's just wasted time, assuming you can spare it, if they turn out to be online only, picture sellers, want ££££££, platonic only etc.
Sometimes no matter how legitimate and up for it they seem, they can flake at the last second (or decide to change the T&Cs), so there's always some risk involved.


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It's difficult as I want to remain discrete and anonymous online too and I keep forgetting their not on AW so they want pictures of me. I also don't know how legit these people are. It feels like a TOFTT on here when someone posts a link on AW and there's no reviews. How does everyone determine if a profile is genuine?

I suppose I can arrange a phone call in advance but besides that, I feel I'm taking a risk booking a hotel/air bnb for a no show. Fingers crossed.

How does everyone determine if a profile is genuine?

I suppose I can arrange a phone call in advance but besides that, I feel I'm taking a risk booking a hotel/air bnb for a no show. Fingers crossed.

In answer to your question: experience and nous. Having no photos or fake looking photos is a warning sign and I'm afraid that works both ways, so, yes, you will struggle to convince a girl that you're genuine if you don't share any pics.
Sometimes the wording of the profile can be a giveaway that they're not genuine, not bothered, not suitable for you and/or just deluded. Sometimes the initial messages are.
But there's no sure way of knowing what they are like just from reading a profile.

Booking a hotel after just having text conversations is indeed a risk. Having a meet and greet (no allowance ofc) and establishing there is chemistry will greatly reduce the chances of her flaking because you will no longer be just a distant stranger she doesn't know or give a shit about. At the very least, have a video call before deciding whether to proceed to a hotel meet.

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I spoke to the girl I last met from SA on the phone beforehand.  She wanted to make sure I was legitimate, and whilst I'm always nervous speaking on the phone to a girl, she was happy and we met a few days later.

Everything else has been her turning up at my hotel, or picking her somewhere first and then going straight back.


Got a few girls on WA at present and replies are slow in places.
One in particular, who I asked about being on SA, mentioned she was skint.  Told her I was happy to meet her and radio silence, although two blue ticks this morning.
Another takes 12-24hrs to reply.
Couple of others I might have to chase up a bit.  Not sure if they're waiting for or what.

Most are just no responding on the site or my messages are showing as sent, but not read, after a few days.
As usual, a lot are either "busy", working through possibles, or just aren't that eager for any pre-Xmas cash.



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As usual, a lot are either "busy", working through possibles, or just aren't that eager for any pre-Xmas cash.

Or more likely, just aren't that eager.

Not a reflection of you I mean, but at the moment, a lot of girls just aren't bothered about seeing guys from the site - and certainly not for sex. Too many 'just curious' timewasters on there.
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Or more likely, just aren't that eager.

Not a reflection of you I mean, but at the moment, a lot of girls just aren't bothered about seeing guys from the site - and certainly not for sex. Too many 'just curious' timewasters on there.

Pretty crap on there at present.

Potentially arranged something for Thursday with one woman, but need to make it clear what's on offer as I suspect she's expecting more of a "(paid) date" sort of thing - not that there's many places to go anyway.
Another still hasn't responded, although she took days last time and then was fairly chatty.
Another has removed her WA pic. 

Students seem to be heading home now, so options there have probably gone.
Not in the NW at present, so a lot less choice for me unless I want to drive up to an hour to near-by towns / cities.

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Students seem to be heading home now, so options there have probably gone.
Not in the NW at present, so a lot less choice for me unless I want to drive up to an hour to near-by towns / cities.

It's a hassle but if one has the time, then increasing max. geographic range to about one hour each way vastly increases the chances to getting an arrangement with a reasonable girl - particularly in these lean times.

I was often putting in this travelling time even before the pandemic due to lack of choice in my immediate area. There is also the advantage that you're not shagging on your own doorstep, with plenty of distance between you and a SB if things go sour.

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It's a hassle but if one has the time, then increasing max. geographic range to about one hour each way vastly increases the chances to getting an arrangement with a reasonable girl - particularly in these lean times.

I was often putting in this travelling time even before the pandemic due to lack of choice in my immediate area. There is also the advantage that you're not shagging on your own doorstep, with plenty of distance between you and a SB if things go sour.

I've got it set to 40km at present but that misses out 2 cities that are slightly further afield.  Any more than that, and I'm hitting Manchester and Birmingham. 
Don't want to be travelling too much due to restrictions - knowing my luck, PC Plod would pull me over and ask where I'm off to.  That, and being stood up after a 2hr or so round trip.

Been dead today to be honest.  Not a single viewing, message, favouriting from South America etc.  When the latter happens, something's definitely up ;)

Girl who removed her WA picture has put a new one up - nice rack ;)  Might do the same tomorrow with my main profile pic as it's tired and not selling me too well.
 

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Arranged a hotel tonight for a meet and it looks like I’m getting radio silence now. She replied this morning and I said I’d see her at 5.30pm. Text her an hour ago and no reply. Just called and it rings out but she was showing as online on WhatsApp a few minutes beforehand.

Thankfully the hotel was a mega deal at £40 and I’m yet to check in but it’s the principle. I told her to let me know before 2pm if she could no longer meet too. I guess you live and learn. That is the risk with SA.

I have two others possibly lined up but they have their own place so that negates this issue. At least you don’t get this on AW.
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I've only had issues with a hotel once.   Pre-booked one and had a bit of a drive to get there, so messaged the girl earlier in the day just to make sure she was going to turn up as it had to be cancelled by 4pm at the latest.
No response from her, so cancelled the hotel.  About an hour later, got a message saying she was still coming.  Had to rebook the hotel which now cost £20-£30 more :(

Hotels around me have the "only for business and essential travel" warnings on their websites.  No idea how restrictive they actually are to be honest, and don't want to book a non-refundable cheap £35 (Premier Inn) / £38.50 (Holiday Inn Express) rate and then find I can't stay.  Sure I could make something up if need be, but no idea if they check (one hotel in Manchester did ask for confirmation I was working back in July and I gave them an a work email off my phone and nothing more was said)

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I've only had issues with a hotel once.   Pre-booked one and had a bit of a drive to get there, so messaged the girl earlier in the day just to make sure she was going to turn up as it had to be cancelled by 4pm at the latest.
No response from her, so cancelled the hotel.  About an hour later, got a message saying she was still coming.  Had to rebook the hotel which now cost £20-£30 more :(

Hotels around me have the "only for business and essential travel" warnings on their websites.  No idea how restrictive they actually are to be honest, and don't want to book a non-refundable cheap £35 (Premier Inn) / £38.50 (Holiday Inn Express) rate and then find I can't stay.  Sure I could make something up if need be, but no idea if they check (one hotel in Manchester did ask for confirmation I was working back in July and I gave them an a work email off my phone and nothing more was said)

Sounds frustrating lol. At least you still got to see her. This skank replied 24 minutes before the booked time to cancel this evening  :dash: I feel like a mug for booking a hotel now but you live and learn I guess. She had the cheek to message me then when I aired my frustrations (politely) to say she was "sorry but if I can't understand it was a one time thing cancelling then maybe we shouldn't carry on talking". Love, I weren't going to give you a penny now after tonight  :lol:

I have seen a few hotels have that warning on. As you say you never know and would be a wasted trip if so. Thankfully I'm in a more relaxed tier so seems okay here for now.

Had high hopes for SA after the initial success of getting numbers but now 3 have stopped replying but still log in to their profile and 1 flaked tonight. It almost feels like a dating site atm. Maybe that's how a lot of them treat it.
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Sounds frustrating lol. At least you still got to see her. This skank replied 24 minutes before the booked time to cancel this evening  :dash: I feel like a mug for booking a hotel now but you live and learn I guess. She had the cheek to message me then when I aired my frustrations (politely) to say she was "sorry but if I can't understand it was a one time thing cancelling then maybe we shouldn't carry on talking". Love, I weren't going to give you a penny now after tonight  :lol:

I have seen a few hotels have that warning on. As you say you never know and would be a wasted trip if so. Thankfully I'm in a more relaxed tier so seems okay here for now.

Had high hopes for SA after the initial success of getting numbers but now 3 have stopped replying but still log in to their profile and 1 flaked tonight. It almost feels like a dating site atm. Maybe that's how a lot of them treat it.

Some of them do get nervous and flake on the day, but at least she has spoken to you.
If you were to give her a second chance, I would go for a casual meet and then see where things head, should she turn up.  That way, nothing lost but time.
Or, just tell her that you're really annoyed that she wasted your time and money and that she is going to be punished for it.  Might be up for a good spanking or something? Sometimes dropping a goody goody image intrigues them more.

Out of the 4 I have on WA:
First one I might be seeing on Thursday.
Second and third read my messages (blue ticks) but no response.  The second asked me if I wanted to meet, so I said yes, but nothing since.
The 4th hasn't read my message (2 grey ticks)

Locally, there's one girl who keeps appearing top of the list every day.  Completely ignored me when I messaged her.
Another that I messaged I've seen on Tinder and she does OnlyFans.  Nothing from her either.

Not one woman has tried to sell me pictures or scam me.  Even one who said she was skint hasn't offered me anything.

Really not sure what most of them are up to.  Just looking as they're bored?


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 It almost feels like a dating site atm. Maybe that's how a lot of them treat it.

I think you are right on that....many do see it as a sort of dating site, certainly not as a "pay for sex" site. yes there are a few who are effectively just seeling sex (its usually easy to spot those) but the vast majority absuluely would hate any suggestion that it is a "pay for sex" site. With respect, if any guy treats the site like that or treats any lady like that, the majority are going to drop you. Maybe because of their mindset and perhaps a bit like in civvy life, they want/need to be woo-ed a bit. Having said that, a number will flake you, or dry up on you for no apparent reason and we don't understand why - but they are, after all, women!!



Really not sure what most of them are up to.  Just looking as they're bored?

I also think this is true for some.....they joined to just see what its like...or re-joined to see what its like now....to see what is around at the moment, not sure what they do want etc etc. But even so, there are some gems on there to be had.

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Really not sure what most of them are up to.  Just looking as they're bored?

Guess main issue is that the ladies can sign up and message for free where us guys have to pay to do it so, especially during lockdown, it’s easy for them to wile away a bit of time without intending to actually go through with anything, but also slim chance they find a rich SD on there. No skin off their nose.

I was on a year or so ago - had one who just kept flaking on a meet and another who after a long time chatting ended just trying to sell pics.

Been thinking about signing up again as AW in Leeds not much that floats my boat; only issue with me is I’m not the most confident at ‘chatting up’ ladies so the ‘long game’ approach doesn’t really suit me as oppose to AW where we both know why we’re there...

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On Whats App, how do you clear out names from the contact list? I can clean messages but not the contacts. Ive 300 there so I could do with clearing about 280!

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On Whats App, how do you clear out names from the contact list? I can clean messages but not the contacts. Ive 300 there so I could do with clearing about 280!

I had to make several of mine phone contacts before setting them up in WhatsApp so I think you might have to clear the chats, and then delete the contacts in your phone contacts list?

But if there is an easier way of doing it then I would be all ears!

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Guess main issue is that the ladies can sign up and message for free where us guys have to pay to do it so, especially during lockdown, it’s easy for them to wile away a bit of time without intending to actually go through with anything, but also slim chance they find a rich SD on there. No skin off their nose.

I was on a year or so ago - had one who just kept flaking on a meet and another who after a long time chatting ended just trying to sell pics.

Been thinking about signing up again as AW in Leeds not much that floats my boat; only issue with me is I’m not the most confident at ‘chatting up’ ladies so the ‘long game’ approach doesn’t really suit me as oppose to AW where we both know why we’re there...
My biggest gripe with SA is the casual nature of it to sb's whereas we must have vfm.

So it's important for guys to get into the mindset of can you afford to lose a months subscription. Just as important, how much time can you afford to lose chatting. This is your worst case.

If you're not in a position to cope with throwing away £80 and several hours getting to know people who won't be around in a month, it's not for you. It'll only leave you negative and that isn't good. Therefore when reading the success stories on here, consider the time invested in chatting. The minutes of your life have a value like the £ in your wallet and you only spend it once.

I'm not against SA. It generates more negativity than AW because success is not guaranteed but we all believe we'll be successful. Negativity isn't good so trying to bring that out.

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My biggest gripe with SA is the casual nature of it to sb's whereas we must have vfm.

So it's important for guys to get into the mindset of can you afford to lose a months subscription. Just as important, how much time can you afford to lose chatting. This is your worst case.

If you're not in a position to cope with throwing away £80 and several hours getting to know people who won't be around in a month, it's not for you. It'll only leave you negative and that isn't good. Therefore when reading the success stories on here, consider the time invested in chatting. The minutes of your life have a value like the £ in your wallet and you only spend it once.

I'm not against SA. It generates more negativity than AW because success is not guaranteed but we all believe we'll be successful. Negativity isn't good so trying to bring that out.

Sure most of us want VFM.  We don't go on there for a lovely chat with some young lady.  We ultimately want to be balls deep ASAP.
Whilst I don't begrudge paying the membership, and I enjoy a bit of chatting and getting to know the woman, it's just trying to get them to the chat (and then keeping them talking) part that's becoming more difficult by the day.

Either they're all being inundated with offers of £150 for sex from men, which I doubt considering a lot of us aren't going to pay £89ish to wade through online only, platonic, scammers, pictures sellers etc. on the off chance someone is relatively up for it, or something else.

Sure there's always been those who go radio silent after a few messages, ignore you completely, drop off the site after a few days (or block you without notice), but it seems worse now.  Can't even give cash away at present (and no better on AW a lot of the time either) ;)

I've personally not mentioned sex once in a single WA chat and still getting nowhere.
Not sure where to just straight out make it clear to each of them that an offer is there, no messing around, rather than random bits of chit chat that may give the impression of things going nowhere.
 
I base a lot of SA on past experience.  It used to be easy.  Shoot off 10-20 messages and at least 25% of those would be up for 3hrs to an overnight of bedroom fun for £xxx without any issues.  Then just a case of the finer details.
Even with 100s on there these days, it's blind luck whether anyone responds, and this does paint a negative picture of the site.

Success story wise, not been a lot lately.  Used to be some good ones ranging from highly entertaining to encouraging sign-ups, but now I could probably count them on one hand, most not being anything to write home about.
Did assume a lot were complete bull before I first joined SA, but quite a few aspects were spot on.
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If you're not in a position to cope with throwing away £80 and several hours getting to know people who won't be around in a month, it's not for you. It'll only leave you negative and that isn't good.
yeah agreed

The clues in the name "sugar daddy"

or in the other name "salt daddy"

those of us using SA just decide which you are :)

Some long term girls Ive had tell me some cracking stories, "meet me at maccies and youll get £15 for sucking me in the bogs" haaaaa
and some real toe curling /scary ones

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yeah agreed

The clues in the name "sugar daddy"

or in the other name "salt daddy"

those of us using SA just decide which you are :)

Some long term girls Ive had tell me some cracking stories, "meet me at maccies and youll get £15 for sucking me in the bogs" haaaaa
and some real toe curling /scary ones

You'll probably find some of these girls would be doing that for free to some chav on a Friday night after being on the piss ;)

The money isn't a major problem for me - I just want value.  Sure I, along with others here, could happily throw ££££ at a woman, there's no guarantee that makes anything better, and I might as well get married if I want to throw money at a female with little return.
I like a bargain just as much as the next person.  I'll pay more if the quality is there, but as with women on AW, £200/hr doesn't equate to an incredible experience over someone charging £120/hr.
Then again, sometimes upping the offer from say £150 to £200-£250 could yield far more interested parties and set you apart from the "£150 for a shag, love?" grouping.

Time wise, I don't want to spend a good part of a month with poor coms.  I want to strike whilst the iron is hot, so to speak.  Not dragging things out, which suits no-one in the end.
I'm happy to meet, spend non-sexual times with them, but I also don't want to be paying someone to sit and watch TV or discuss Brexit with me all evening, and then wish her a pleasant night.
I do accept there are times when working up to something by chatting online, flirting etc. and saving them for an opportune moment does work.  Keeping them on the back burner so to speak.

At the end of the day, it's a business transaction.  You want something, she wants something, and you seek a compromise price, time and content wise.  Sometimes there will be a "winner".  Sometimes a "loser".  (Like me selling an item I bought for £30 at £50.  It's £60 on Amazon and someone offers me £45.  They're getting a bargain in their eyes, whilst I'm making a 50% profit.  We're both winners even though it could be argued that he's just paid over the odds)
Some just want a BJ, others a night of BDSM.  Others may enjoy having dinner with her, getting to know her first, but at the end of the day, it's not a dating site, and as we know, there's no guarantee and floozing (can't remember the exact word to describe taking a client to dinner, drinks, strip club or whatever to get their business) them that anything will come of it.
There's always going to be an element of degredation??? on the site. It's a sex-for-cash site in other words.

Not really sure why a man would pay £89 to proposition a girl on SA for a £15 BJ in Maccies (although probably £40 back then).  Much easier, although creepier ways of doing that such as walking up to someone and propositiong them (do know of some girls who do have a reputation for that sort of thing)
 
At the end of the day, I personally don't want the types that demand the ££££ - the Instagram model types with fake everything, parading around in bikinis in Dubai being one type.
Someone natural, girl next door type, not full of herself etc. works for me.  Someone not demanding, who things may flow naturally with.  Someone I feel at ease with and won't use me solely for material gain.  Happy to splash the cash, within reason, on treats and so on in that case.

A lot of women don't take into account other factors.  Sure your giving her £150+ for a few hours, but on top of that there could be the hotel, food, drink, Ubers etc.  All adds up, so you might be paying £300 for the meet which isn't quite as cheap as it may seem to some.  Couple of meets a month, and that's over £7k/year, which isn't chump change to a lot of people (others, loose change down the back of the sofa I expect! - if I won the £175m on tomorrow's Euromillions, I can assure you I would not be trawling through everyone on that site hoping for a bite - the world would be my oyster)
Sure there are quite a few who are getting hotels and meals paid for by work, so a lot of the costs aren't being borne by them.

Wondering how much of an effect this site had on SA pricing.
For the original members of SA and the previously closed forum, the average going rate was probably £250-£400 for up to an overnight.
Then it became a bit of a challenge to see who could get a better price with £150 being a fairly consistent point after a while.
More people joined SA because of the stories and this price.
Maybe then that it caused girls looking for ££££ to realise £150 wasn't quite the life changing amount they were expecting and a lot moved on and then word of mouth stopped a lot of new members.
Others then moved in knowing men would spend that amount and offered videos, an hour or two here and there etc.
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Really not sure what most of them are up to.  Just looking as they're bored?

Yep.

As I said above, most of them are just curious about the site. They have more time on their hands during the pandemic and it's free, so they think:
"why not? It would be nice to have some male attention but unless he's max 32, very good looking and offering me mega ££££ then there's no chance I'm putting out".

Some of them no doubt are treating it like a swipe dating site like Tinder - and similarly waste guys' time on there as well.

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A lot of women don't take into account other factors.  Sure your giving her £150+ for a few hours, but on top of that there could be the hotel, food, drink, Ubers etc.

Wondering how much of an effect this site had on SA pricing.

Not a lot. Whereas one can say the majority of punters read UKP, you can also confidently say the majority of SDs don't, and most of the discussion has taken place in the closed thread with a limited no. of members. And even then, while it's no doubt different in the North, it was clear from other posts that I was one of the few SDs south of Wolverhampton who was regularly paying 150 - which I did precisely because of this:

a lot of women don't take into account other factors.  Sure your giving her £150+ for a few hours, but on top of that there could be the hotel, food, drink, Ubers etc.


 

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Arranged a meet, she arrived with her dogs in the car, said she could only stay for 20 mins but would still want £150. Promised that if I paid her, we could see each other again for free (yeah, of course that will happen). Told her no and she got stroppy, called me a con artist etc. and left. Worst meet from SA, but thankfully no money lost as the hotel wasn't booked.

Don't waste your time and effort.

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Carmen2112 from Bournemouth

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Arranged a meet, she arrived with her dogs in the car, said she could only stay for 20 mins but would still want £150. Promised that if I paid her, we could see each other again for free (yeah, of course that will happen). Told her no and she got stroppy, called me a con artist etc. and left. Worst meet from SA, but thankfully no money lost as the hotel wasn't booked.

Don't waste your time and effort.

Thanks for the warning and good job you didn't book a hotel.

However, just looking at her profile would put me off ie posey shots and she can't even be bothered to write anything - and surely the warning signs were there in convo? Failing that, meet and greets with no allowance filters out the timewasters and scammers, and establishes if there is chemistry with the genuine SBs.

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Beware: Pam, 34 from Manchester. Complete nut case. Has blocked me so can't add the link

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In the process of arranging something with someone from exotic Hull tomorrow.  Not too far to drive and she seems nice enough, although can't be certain of anything such as she flakes, family emergency, works in a local parlour etc.  If someone has had experience of anyone there, happy to PM as don't want to put random names on open chat.
Few hours in a hotel, order in some food (as restaurant is closed), and see what happens.  Hopefully fun, food, more fun.

Still awaiting a response from Thursday's potential meet that is in my town.  Would prefer this one, if I were only to meet one of them, as not far to travel if things don't happen or go pear shaped.



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Can't edit my own post as it's been too long, but:

Seems to be £200 for around 4 hours tomorrow, plus a hotel (£50ish) and we'll get some food in.  Not too bad, although had far cheaper (£150 last time and she could accommodate), assuming no hotel issues.

The woman I'm arranging something with for Thursday is suggesting going for a coffee, but little options in the evening bar Maccies ;)  Have told her that any of these "getting to know you" social meets won't attract an allowance, but I'll cover food / drink costs.  Just waiting to see if she comes back with either:

OK.
Messages me something along the lines of "Bye" (or never contacts me again).
Skips the coffee meet and straight to dessert.

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A couple of observations this past week. I've started to notice there are 3 types of women on there in my area. The genuinely curious, girl next door type. Probably not on here for a long time but wants some fun. The escort. They know about pay per meets and have some professional photos. And the mental cases.

I seem to be getting good success with offering £100-£150 per hour in my area however when I asked one girl she said normally she expects £1000 per meet. When I replied saying normally most people are happy with £150 she replied with "don't make me laugh"  :lol: Scary thing is, some loon with more money than sense probably has paid her that  :scare: had to block her as she got quite abusive as if I insulted her.

I'm still getting used to women asking for a photo beforehand. I have to be honest I don't feel all that comfortable with sharing a pic on whatsapp that will be in their domain forever and that's my only downside to SA at present which is holding me back a little.

I don't mind the chatting and putting effort in but it certainly seems to be a number game. I open with the same line and get 95% success rate but ones that seem genuinely interested and up for it, to the point we arrange a day and time and then give me radio silence.
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A couple of observations this past week. I've started to notice there are 3 types of women on there in my area. The genuinely curious, girl next door type. Probably not on here for a long time but wants some fun. The escort. They know about pay per meets and have some professional photos. And the mental cases.

I seem to be getting good success with offering £100-£150 per hour in my area however when I asked one girl she said normally she expects £1000 per meet. When I replied saying normally most people are happy with £150 she replied with "don't make me laugh"  :lol: Scary thing is, some loon with more money than sense probably has paid her that  :scare: had to block her as she got quite abusive as if I insulted her.

I'm still getting used to women asking for a photo beforehand. I have to be honest I don't feel all that comfortable with sharing a pic on whatsapp that will be in their domain forever and that's my only downside to SA at present which is holding me back a little.

I don't mind the chatting and putting effort in but it certainly seems to be a number game. I open with the same line and get 95% success rate but ones that seem genuinely interested and up for it, to the point we arrange a day and time and then give me radio silence.

I wouldn't assume they're telling the truth about £1000 a meet.  Some really do try it on and then either come back to you with "ok, I'll do it for £400" (which tells you she's up for negotiating, although would you want to with someone who will probably be a waste of time in all respects?) or good riddance.
Probably the same as us. You're willing to pay say £250 for an overnight, but try your luck at a lower figure of £150 (first girl I met wanted £500, countered with £200 and she was fine with that).

Not all of them as escort types but are aware of PPM.  Depends how many times someone has mentioned it to them.

My 2 seem fine at present.  One is giving the impression she'll meet tomorrow.  The other has mentioned PPM or an allowance, but don't believe she is an escort.  She seems fine for Thursday, but working on what is going to happen as not much open where we can sit down and chat (no issues mentioning there would be no payment for a social meet).


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Well, changed my mind about tonight's meet.  Looked at the various costs of it, potential amount of fun time and decided it wasn't really worth it at the end of the day.  Probably looking at around £300 for everything (4hrs), and assuming 2hrs of fun, that works out at escort rates with bonus chatting and eating in between.
She referred to me, for the first time, as "babe" in a message this morning, and whilst it could just be a throwaway term of affection, names such as "babe", "hun", "darl" etc. seem too synonymous with escorts to me. 
Maybe I've read too much into this, but if my "spider sense" tingles, it's generally right.

Tomorrow's meet still seems OK.  Since it's going to be a social meet at the least, a few minutes or so isn't going to put me out at all.  Great if things went further, but we'll see.


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Well, changed my mind about tonight's meet.  Looked at the various costs of it, potential amount of fun time and decided it wasn't really worth it at the end of the day.  Probably looking at around £300 for everything (4hrs), and assuming 2hrs of fun, that works out at escort rates with bonus chatting and eating in between.
She referred to me, for the first time, as "babe" in a message this morning, and whilst it could just be a throwaway term of affection, names such as "babe", "hun", "darl" etc. seem too synonymous with escorts to me. 
Maybe I've read too much into this, but if my "spider sense" tingles, it's generally right.

Tomorrow's meet still seems OK.  Since it's going to be a social meet at the least, a few minutes or so isn't going to put me out at all.  Great if things went further, but we'll see.

‘Babe’ a red flag for me 💯
It’s b hard work on seeking if you don’t want escort vibes and value good looks. Much easier if neither of those requirements matter 😂