Do bad experiences make you a better punter?

[xsw21]

I and others read the stuff that some of the members say and think they are harsh, but I’ve recently come to realise that a good punter is one that approaches the prossie world with ruthlessness.

I think when we enter this world we are way too soft and fluffy, but the bad experiences make us better punters in the end. Slowly we lose all the fluffiness and start to make better choices once we see how deceiving wg’s really are.

I’m at that point now where I’ve lost all compassion and respect for wg’s and have rid myself of the fluffy attitude us noobs have. I now agree with the stuff the harsher UKP members say and I think they on average very rarely have bad punts now.

I’ve officially joined the dark side!!! 

Do you all agree that every bad escort experience has made you a better punter???

I guess this question is aimed at the veteran punters and not the noobs…

[smiths]

I and others read the stuff that some of the members say and think they are harsh, but I’ve recently come to realise that a good punter is one that approaches the prossie world with ruthlessness.

I think when we enter this world we are way too soft and fluffy, but the bad experiences make us better punters in the end. Slowly we lose all the fluffiness and start to make better choices once we see how deceiving wg’s really are.

I’m at that point now where I’ve lost all compassion and respect for wg’s and have rid myself of the fluffy attitude us noobs have. I now agree with the stuff the harsher UKP members say and I think they on average very rarely have bad punts now.

I’ve officially joined the dark side!!! 

Do you all agree that every bad escort experience has made you a better punter???

I guess this question is aimed at the veteran punters and not the noobs…

I give all newbie WGs to me a clean slate not blaming them for the previous bad service of other WGs. Whether a WG is good or bad depends on her attitude, a totally individual trait.

All very simple, i respect and praise the good that offer a good service and view the bad as low life scum who fully deserve to be outed on here as the scum they are. Offer what is agreed or risk being named and shamed.

I dont believe a word a newbie WG to me tells me, up to her to show me she is a good WG, a case of walking the walk as well as talking the talk.

[Taggart]

Shouldn't the title be: Do bad experiences make you a bitter punter?

[xsw21]

Shouldn't the title be: Do bad experiences make you a bitter punter?

Ouch and hmmm you could be on to something there…

[ALyons]

Yes. Because there's money involved and you don't want to be wasting it.

[Sailormack]

I find it strange that people in general will not accept poor service, mispricing etc on general things but will accept absolute shit from a prostitute without a peep.

[ALyons]

I find it strange that people in general will not accept poor service, mispricing etc on general things but will accept absolute shit from a prostitute without a peep.

+1.

I think I would fall into this trap. Maybe it's because I don't want to hurt their feelings by 'rejecting' their performance.

[smiths]

I find it strange that people in general will not accept poor service, mispricing etc on general things but will accept absolute shit from a prostitute without a peep.

Indeed, i wont accept bad service off anyone i do business with. From years of reading posts by punters seems to me some view sex as so important to them that they let bad service by WGs slide letting their cocks rule their brains and common sense.

Also there are some punters who are too embarrassed to admit they have received bad service, they either want to sweep it under the carpet, not admit it as it makes them look stupid as they see it in front of other forum punters or both.

[mattylondon]

I find it strange that people in general will not accept poor service, mispricing etc on general things but will accept absolute shit from a prostitute without a peep.

Yes. Matters of the flesh appear to receive special status, that falls outside of the normal rules that govern standards of service. I guess because relationships or 'feelings' can stem from such encounters. Of course, the poor prossie wants you to feel this way. To feel some kind of 'guilt' or emotion.

I'd have thought that if one receives a poor standard of service, wherever it may be, that this should sharpen you up and make you more savvy and not 'bitter'. I wonder if the OP had another agenda, rather than the question posed?

[Sailormack]

+1.

I think I would fall into this trap. Maybe it's because I don't want to hurt their feelings by 'rejecting' their performance.

Of course if Tesco try to overcharge you you would pull them up right away.

But for some, they will pay a pro$$ie top dollar for a specific experience and accept less than they paid for without protest. 

It's all very well worrying about their feelings, but are they worried about yours

[DJ Fruit Polo]

I’m at that point now where I’ve lost all compassion and respect for wg’s and have rid myself of the fluffy attitude us noobs have. I now agree with the stuff the harsher UKP members say and I think they on average very rarely have bad punts now.

I’ve officially joined the dark side!!! 

While I agree that it's right to be critical if you've received bad service or poor vfm, and this doesn't just apply to dealings with WGs, I do hope I wouldn't ever get to the point where I'd lost "all compassion and respect".  Surely you must have at least some respect for the ladies you've seen who haven't given you a raw deal and treated you poorly - or have all your punts been that bad?

[xsw21]

I wonder if the OP had another agenda, rather than the question posed?

Sorry, I don’t know what you mean mate? 

What kind of agenda could I have???

I don’t get it…

[Ted Bear]

I should hope so because if one does not learn from a previous bad punt then they will more likely to encounter similar bad punts and only have themselves to blame.

"fool me once shame on WG, fool me twice shame on ME"

I learnt from my recent bad punt that no matter how much FB or glowing FR the WG has, treat her as a newbie by not letting your guard down in achieving your desired pleasure and time.
Dont be too concerned about being a "WG's Gent" but be a "Savy Punter" as they are less likely to get away with providing bad service.

Thats my recent take on bad punts

[mattylondon]

Sorry, I don’t know what you mean mate? 

What kind of agenda could I have???

I don’t get it…

I was wondering, as with Taggart's line, whether you really meant a 'bitter punter', rather than better!

[xsw21]

While I agree that it's right to be critical if you've received bad service or poor vfm, and this doesn't just apply to dealings with WGs, I do hope I wouldn't ever get to the point where I'd lost "all compassion and respect".  Surely you must have at least some respect for the ladies you've seen who haven't given you a raw deal and treated you poorly - or have all your punts been that bad?

I tried to treat wg’s like regular women, with respect, kindness and wanted them to feel like I didn’t see them as a piece of meat. I think a lot of us newbies do this, but the reality is that they don’t give a shit about you so why should you give a shit about them… I’ve learned that I should just see it as a transaction and nothing more….

[Sailormack]

Too true mate.

You're not looking for love you're looking for a good time 

[xsw21]

I was wondering, as with Taggart's line, whether you really meant a 'bitter punter', rather than better!

ah I see, no I actually meant better because I feel that the newbies don’t have the experience to see that wg’s will take them for everything if they don’t smarten up. A punter will only make wise decisions, (walking) when he has met numerous wg’s that lie on their profiles, give a crap service and sell themselves with fake pics…

[mattylondon]

I tried to treat wg’s like regular women, with respect, kindness and wanted them to feel like I didn’t see them as a piece of meat. I think a lot of us newbies do this, but the reality is that they don’t give a shit about you so why should you give a shit about them… I’ve learned that I should just see it as a transaction and nothing more….

The good thing is that you now realise you're only a customer and that this is simply business. Yes, they don't give a shit about you and especially when your time's up but in a sense, should they? I see their function as being to deliver a good service. I use them for sex. We all use them for our particular needs. That's why we're prepared to pay. I know it's all an act on their part, but then I'm acting too because I don't care about them either. I'm there to have a good time and get my rocks off, that's all.

I cold hard dose of reality will make you a better punter, as long as you still continue to treat prossies how you'd like to be treated yourself.

[xsw21]

Too true mate.

You're not looking for love you're looking for a good time 

Bingo! 

Fluffiness has no place in the prossie world and you only learn that through bad experiences…

[Sailormack]

Of course in the bad old days you had to trawl through the Sport or take your chances in parlours or in the street game before the law changed.

Now we have no excuse, with UKP and a growing band of punters, the scamsters are flippin' out bigtime.

That's why we are hated so much on SAAFE and PN, cos' we've got their number and they know it.

It's now time for you young dudes to toughen up your nipples 

[DJ Fruit Polo]

I tried to treat wg’s like regular women, with respect, kindness and wanted them to feel like I didn’t see them as a piece of meat. I think a lot of us newbies do this, but the reality is that they don’t give a shit about you so why should you give a shit about them… I’ve learned that I should just see it as a transaction and nothing more….

WGs are "regular women" and, like any cross-section of people, some will take you for a ride and some will actually deliver as promised or advertised.  You probably shouldn't care too much about people who've treated you cynically, but why not have respect for those who haven't?   

A punter will only make wise decisions, (walking) when he has met numerous wg’s that lie on their profiles, give a crap service and sell themselves with fake pics…

Can't argue with that!

[xsw21]

I cold hard dose of reality will make you a better punter, as long as you still continue to treat prossies how you'd like to be treated yourself.

Oh yes definitely, just to make clear, I’m not talking about not treating them like a human being.

I mean that if I turn up and she doesn’t look like her pics… I’m walking!

If she doesn’t do what her profile says… I’m walking!

If she tries to charge me extras that weren’t mentioned on her profile… I’m walking!

If she acts like a bitchy diva… she’s getting a terrible review!

[DJ Fruit Polo]

I cold hard dose of reality will make you a better punter, as long as you still continue to treat prossies how you'd like to be treated yourself.

+1

It's not rocket science, is it?   

[mattylondon]

That's why we are hated so much on SAAFE and PN, cos' we've got their number and they know it.

They all read this forum. Trust me on that. Including Grade A cunts like Danish Pia and Chloe Pisses.

They're like the little fat girls, who press their noses up against the window of a candy shop, but are never allowed in. 

[mattylondon]

+1

It's not rocket science, is it?   

I'd like to think not, but then some other people are strange! 

[mattylondon]

Oh yes definitely, just to make clear, I’m not talking about not treating them like a human being.

I mean that if I turn up and she doesn’t look like her pics… I’m walking!

If she doesn’t do what her profile says… I’m walking!

If she tries to charge me extras that weren’t mentioned on her profile… I’m walking!

If she acts like a bitchy diva… she’s getting a terrible review!

All good stuff and I'd add another. Ensure that you establish, face to face, exactly what services she'll be providing before you hand over your money. If you get the slightest hint that something may be a problem, don't think with your dick. Walk and either revert to a Plan B or live to fight another day, with your money intact.

[cjkanye02]

This site has toughened me up a bit.

For maybe 12 years I've been a bit fluffy. Turned down for promised services, rushed out after 1 pop, even getting attached a few times etc.  I'm a lot more demanding since joining this site 6 months ago though.

I thought I was being a nice guy, but in reality I think I was just an easy customer and a bit of a mug.

I thought I was building friendships with some of these girls, but that's a bit of an illusion when you don't even know their name! I have one girl I've seen over 20 times but she still won't reply to a text if it's not to make a booking. Great friend there!

I also never really valued the money, thinking ah well it's only £100 quid or whatever. Nowadays I realise that it's actually a decent amount and it's actually a bit of a pisstake to lie about services in order to basically steal from you.

So nowadays I do my research more carefully, am a bit more demanding, and a bit less afraid of walking or confrontation.

[jackdaw]

I’m at that point now where I’ve lost all compassion and respect for wg’s and have rid myself of the fluffy attitude us noobs have. I now agree with the stuff the harsher UKP members say and I think they on average very rarely have bad punts now.

I don't think of it that way ("lost all compassion and respect")…. and deep down think that's as poor a way of thinking about WGs as being over respectful.

I regard it as I would regard hiring any other specialist at a darn good rate of pay. If they give me good service, they get respect from me. If I get poor service, then my first response is to give polite feedback to see if situation can be improved, and if not I just "get out" as cheaply as possible.I don't regard it as any different to hiring a lawyer or accountant, except I do get on better with some WG's than any lawyer I've met.

As for the out and out scam merchants(e.g. Bait and Switch)…. of course, I have no respect for them… I don't regard them them as professional WG's…. in their case I regard them as con artists.