How does escorting/working as a prossie mentally affect WG's?

[ALyons]

I've never discussed this with a WG but how does working as a escort/prossie mentally affect their life?

Like how do they handle personal relationships, intimacy with partners, finances, people/friends, family (extended) etc? I have no idea how they would behave towards a guy for example at a club who was trying to hit on them thinking she's a normal girl. 

Just curious so I ask.

[finn5555]

Ask on SAAFE 

[vorian]

Can't see how it couldn't affect them as to what degree that would entirety depend on the individual. Some can't handle it at all and quit, some try to hide their work and separate it from personal life and some stick their chin up and get on with it.

[Tjkooker]

Ask on SAAFE 

+1

[Hellraiser]

I have gotten to know one prostitute quite well and she has confessed to me that, when it comes to her family, she is nothing short of a compulsive liar. Has been with her husband for 8 years and throughout that period he has known nothing about her whoring. Has had a child with him, whored while pregnant, kept the prostituting side of her life completely hidden. Is bit of fruitcake as well. I feel nothing but pity for her husband. I have no idea how any woman can live with that level of deceit. No shame.

[hockogrockle]

I think quite a lot of serious research has been done on this and similar issues by social scientists in the UK and elsewhere. No doubt most of it is mouldering in dusty files in University libraries. But it is there if you want to look at it. At a guess, it is as wordy, ponderously-written and tedious as any other academic research.

[MidlandsEscortxo]

Sometimes it can be the most mentally draining thing I've ever experienced. Having to listen to men spout shit all day, the eejits who can't understand simple directions such as getting out of their car and knocking on a door, men who don't listen to a simple thing (5 times of telling someone I don't want a finger shoved up my arse yesterday). Sometimes I go home exhausted and wonder what I do this for. But then I realise that unlike most people my age I don't have to survive on pot noodles, can go and blow £600 a week in selfridges and can go on holiday whenever I feel like it ... once you sell your soul (and vagina) their ain't no going back

[mattylondon]

I've never discussed this with a WG but how does working as a escort/prossie mentally affect their life?

Who cares? What you're trying to find out sounds pretty close to boundary pushing. It's just as well you haven't asked any of them that question or they may tell you to mind your own business.  .

If you're that concerned about a prostitute's mind set, then perhaps punting isn't for you. Perhaps you have your own self doubts?

[Tjkooker]

I think quite a lot of serious research has been done on this and similar issues by social scientists in the UK and elsewhere. No doubt most of it is mouldering in dusty files in University libraries. But it is there if you want to look at it. At a guess, it is as wordy, ponderously-written and tedious as any other academic research.

For once we agree.

[overhead]

Ask on SAAFE

LOL - there was an interesting thread on there a while back when one girl complained about the reactions she got when she spouted out her price list in bars and clubs. She had got into such a mindset that she thought it was incomprehensible that any guy could possibly imagine it was possible to have sex without paying for it.

Admittedly not all the women on there shared her view, but it just shows how strange their thinking can become. Whenever I strike up a conversation with a WG about their job I'm always struck by how warped their thinking is. They are on a different planet, with very few exceptions.

[RandyF]

Ask on SAAFE 

No need to ask on SAAFE, just READ a few threads. A more paranoid, self-absorbed, self loathing, victimised bunch of beauties would be hard to find. 

[xsw21]

I reckon once they get into the life style, they will always find it difficult to connect in relationships. Every day they are disconnecting themselves from sex and emotions and eventually it becomes normal for them. They will also develop a serious dislike for men in general… Sure they make loads of money, but there is a price to be paid. There is an unseen damage that they do to themselves which they probably don’t notice until they’ve done it for some years…

I would never advise any of my close female friends to go into escorting…

I’m just guessing here

[Sailormack]

Like most difficult jobs, the compensation levels reflect the "mental strain" otherwise no one would do them 

[mattylondon]

once you sell your soul (and vagina) their ain't no going back

No. That is isn't it.

As with any high income job, once you become accustomed to a certain standard of living, the natural desire is to maintain it. However, as with other low skilled workers, your average prostitute wouldn't be able to compete in the market place and maintain their current standard of living. If you could, you wouldn't have decided to suck cock for a living. And yes, I do not underestimate that it is a decision that a great many women take lightly. I strongly suspect that it's primarily a decision based on need, rather than a totally free choice. That's certainly my perception from talking with a great many prossies, post punt.

Less you forget, the same 'idiot' who cannot follow your simple directions, is the customer, whether you like it or not. To put it bluntly, no idiots, no £600 spending spree in Selfridges for you and you'd probably be on minimum wage, if you're lucky. 

Nobody said that prostitution was easy, but nobody forces you to do it and you always retain the right to turn away an undesirable punter. Compared to a nurse, who undergoes years of training, is skilled and also puts up with abuse, both verbal and physical, in addition to cleaning up patient's piss and shit, on occasion at £18k a year, you have it easy, so I have little sympathy for you.

[overhead]

I reckon once they get into the life style, they will always find it difficult to connect in relationships. Every day they are disconnecting themselves from sex and emotions and eventually it becomes normal for them. They will also develop a serious dislike for men in general… Sure they make loads of money, but there is a price to be paid. There is an unseen damage that they do to themselves which they probably don’t notice until they’ve done it for some years…

I would never advise any of my close female friends to go into escorting…

I’m just guessing here.

I think your guessing is close to spot on.

I got to know a WG quite well. I've never seen her as a client and in fact she doesn't know I've ever done it. I think the fact that I have been able to conceal that without difficulty is very telling. I got to know her by chance in another arena, but of course when she revealed to me what she does I was more than interested. Her entire thinking on relationships is very warped indeed. I found I can't have any sort of a conversation with her about the subject because she always reverts to - I know this through my job, you don't know anything. We can talk about any other subject and she is intelligent enough to be very stimulating indeed on most things. She runs rings around me on things like math - and that's something I use every day for my work - she is more or less genius level academically and she occasionally writes articles on her specialist other subject with stunning content. But human interaction is another thing altogether, and she's also gone down the road of buying expensive clothes - literally hundreds of pairs of shoes, and expensive dresses she never wears. It's rather sad to be honest. She over rates herself as a person sadly, and I think anyone who judges their attractiveness to the opposite sex by their interaction with men they are about to fuck are bound to. She's had thousands of clients and of course they all think she's wonderful in every respect, and she now believes it herself. The arrogance that results is incredible and rather sad to see in someone who is otherwise a very good person with so much unrealised potential. This is a rather extreme example, but I suppose they are all like that to some extent.

[Bellabella]

When I'm in a club and get approached I just say I'm on a man ban, I don't see the point in starting something with a man when I work in this industry. It's mentally draining but I can't say my views on men have changed much at all. It's changed my sex life dramatically though, I learnt things I didn't even know we're possible.

[valdishere]

OP answer - some self analysis required!

Does your wife, partner, family, pals, work colleagues, next door neighbour etc know that you punt?

What makes you think most WG's can't then live out life with the same lies we all do?

Sure they may take many more risks, get more cock than most civvy lassies could manage even get called all sort of names by us punters.

But we are the pricks that create the demand and the less self-righteous of us who do understand know it takes a mentally affected lifelong  lie to pay and play away from home looking and buying fresh pussy.

So don't worry for them I'm sure many realise it does pay well and let's them lead a fairly good life if they are sensible enough.

Given the choice I wonder how many of us pricks would rather have been born with a cunt?

[vorian]

No. That is isn't it.

As with any high income job, once you become accustomed to a certain standard of living, the natural desire is to maintain it. However, as with other low skilled workers, your average prostitute wouldn't be able to compete in the market place and maintain their current standard of living. If you could, you wouldn't have decided to suck cock for a living. And yes, I do not underestimate that it is a decision that a great many women take lightly. I strongly suspect that it's primarily a decision based on need, rather than a totally free choice. That's certainly my perception from talking with a great many prossies, post punt.

Less you forget, the same 'idiot' who cannot follow your simple directions, is the customer, whether you like it or not. To put it bluntly, no idiots, no £600 spending spree in Selfridges for you and you'd probably be in a minimum wage job, if you're lucky.

Nobody said that prostitution was easy, but nobody forces you to do it and you always retain the right to turn away an undesirable punter. Compared to a nurse, who undergoes years of training, is skilled and also puts up with abuse, both verbal and physical, in addition to cleaning up patient's piss and shit, on occasion at £18k a year, you have it easy, so I have little sympathy for you.

I have to agree,  very little sympathy the rewards vs the risks are great and yes I do appreciate that on occasion terrible evil things can happen and a wg can get seriously hurt or even killed but the same risk could apply to the police or fire service and I'm not making light of the dangers but they can to a degree be managed to reduce the risk if the prossy is professional in her approach. As to the day to day issues such as lying to people that again is a choice and an extra stress created by the individual they can be as honest as they like partners and friends are there again through choice perhaps family are the only people you would have to lie to protect them.

[overhead]

Given the choice I wonder how many of us pricks would rather have been born with a cunt?

LOL - that's a good one, but so true.

I've come to the conclusion over the years that it is far better to be born female, but the irony is that most women don't realise it. They consider themselves very hard done by with all the sexism etc there is in the world. But the truth is they are still better off than we are. I think the very existence of prostitution proves that.

[overhead]

When I'm in a club and get approached I just say I'm on a man ban, I don't see the point in starting something with a man when I work in this industry. It's mentally draining but I can't say my views on men have changed much at all. It's changed my sex life dramatically though, I learnt things I didn't even know we're possible.

Why do you bother going to clubs then?

[mattylondon]

Why do you bother going to clubs then?

Err, perhaps she actually enjoys the music, a drink and not just being fucked by men? Just a thought! 

[Bellabella]

Why do you bother going to clubs then?

For the craic.

[overhead]

For the craic.

A spot of prick teasing to boost the ego then.

Sorry, I've been around too long not to be cynical.

And I know I'm right about it too.

[mattylondon]

A spot of prick teasing to boost the ego then.

Ah yes, I hadn't considered that! 

[Bellabella]

In all honesty my friends don't even go out to pull either, I don't think many people do these days. It's more about having a good night with mates. Just because we don't all go out looking to take a fuck home doesn't mean we don't have a good night.

[Bellabella]

And I assure you now I definitely don't have an ego when I'm out.

[RandyF]

For the craic.

Craic whore? Stay strong, and fight your demons girlfriend 

[Bellabella]

Haha I love how you all perceive us. Funnily enough I don't touch drugs and normally stay close to sober on a night out now due to a punter approaching me in a club and trying to convince people he knew me. Isn't worth getting drunk ever since. And he was off his nutt on some sort of drug by the looks of it. X

[mattylondon]

Haha I love how you all perceive us.

And he was off his nutt on some sort of drug by the looks of it. X

It's funny how you perceive some of us! 

[overhead]

In all honesty my friends don't even go out to pull either, I don't think many people do these days. It's more about having a good night with mates. Just because we don't all go out looking to take a fuck home doesn't mean we don't have a good night.

I don't think any of you go out looking to take a fuck home. That's the fact and is why so many stupid guys go out clubbing and always end up disappointed.

Been there done that, and saw the light very quickly.

[Bellabella]

Ah yes, it's funny how you perceive some of us! 

I seen him face to face, gurning all over the place. You haven't seen me, and definitely wouldn't see me gurning :|

[overhead]

It's funny how you perceive some of us! 

Mutual disrespect - most of it well founded.

[vorian]

Haha I love how you all perceive us. Funnily enough I don't touch drugs and normally stay close to sober on a night out now due to a punter approaching me in a club and trying to convince people he knew me. Isn't worth getting drunk ever since. And he was off his nutt on some sort of drug by the looks of it. X

I belive drug reference was a joke in response to your use of the word criac, drugs including drink, imho just make people boring and the worst thing about it is they don't even realise they are bring a bore.

[finn5555]

Haha I love how you all perceive us. Funnily enough I don't touch drugs and normally stay close to sober on a night out now due to a punter approaching me in a club and trying to convince people he knew me. Isn't worth getting drunk ever since. And he was off his nutt on some sort of drug by the looks of it. X

Being recognised when out with friends is a risk you take when you sell your arse for a living

[DJ Fruit Polo]

Does your wife, partner, family, pals, work colleagues, next door neighbour etc know that you punt?

What makes you think most WG's can't then live out life with the same lies we all do?

Sure they may take many more risks, get more cock than most civvy lassies could manage even get called all sort of names by us punters.

But we are the pricks that create the demand and the less self-righteous of us who do understand know it takes a mentally affected lifelong  lie to pay and play away from home looking and buying fresh pussy.

So don't worry for them I'm sure many realise it does pay well and let's them lead a fairly good life if they are sensible enough.

I'd say that there's one pretty big difference between the lies that punters and WGs have to tell: have you had to duck the question "So, what do you do for a living?" and had to keep your work secret from friends and family?  Even allowing for financial compensation, the strain of that might tell after a while. 

[mattylondon]

Being recognised when out with friends is a risk you take when you sell your arse for a living

Yes indeed. Especially if you decide to shit on your own doorstep by going to a nightclub in the same area where you sell your arse. And, of course, advertising on the Internet.

[Bellabella]

I don't mind the risk, as punters you'll probably all agree you wouldn't approach us in public. I see quite a few in my day job with there wives and children and it's totally normal. I don't think the lad realised what he was saying as afterwards his friends looked confused and were asking why he was fucking escorts anyway and they apologised for the misunderstanding, totally backfired on him x

[overhead]

... once you sell your soul (and vagina) their ain't no going back

Very similar to our side. Once you start you rely on it and you can't stop.

[mattylondon]

Very similar to our side. Once you start you rely on it and you can't stop.

I don't agree with that at all, as a general assumption?

I have sex with both civvies and prossies but only when I'm single. I've never had any trouble whatsoever 'giving up' having sex with other women in general, whilst in a relationship? In fact, it wouldn't even occur to me to do it. I've simply ceased contact and binned the punting sim, without retaining any contacts. No problem.

The difference with punting a prossie is the variety of options and knowing that it's a given. The only determining factor being the cash. I understand that other people's circumstances, like your own, may be different.

[vorian]

Very similar to our side. Once you start you rely on it and you can't stop.

Why would you want to stop, unless you had to due to a lack of money. If I had unlimited resources. My only break from punting would be to plan the next punt.

[overhead]

I don't agree with that at all, as a general assumption?

I have sex with both civvies and prossies but only when I'm single. I've never had any trouble whatsoever 'giving up' having sex with other women in general, whilst in a relationship? In fact, it wouldn't even occur to me to do it. I've simply ceased contact and binned the punting sim, without retaining any contacts. No problem.

The difference with punting a prossie is the variety of options and knowing that it's a given. The only determining factor being the cash. I understand that other people's circumstances, like your own, may be different.

It doesn't apply to me, but a lot of guys beyond a certain age find that women of their own age are not looking for sex. In fact I'd say the vast majority are the opposite, they are avoiding it at all costs. Men are different and they become trapped into paying for it for the rest of their lives if they go down that road.

Clearly that doesn't necessarily apply to younger men, but I do believe it does apply to a surprisingly large proportion.

[vorian]

It doesn't apply to me, but a lot of guys beyond a certain age find that women of their own age are not looking for sex. In fact I'd say the vast majority are the opposite, they are avoiding it at all costs. Men are different and they become trapped into paying for it for the rest of their lives if they go down that road.

Clearly that doesn't necessarily apply to younger men, but I do believe it does apply to a surprisingly large proportion.

Imho we all pay for it throughout our lives just with a different coin at various points. At least with a wg you know the currency that is expected.

[Hellraiser]

Who cares? What you're trying to find out sounds pretty close to boundary pushing. It's just as well you haven't asked any of them that question or they may tell you to mind your own business.  .

If you're that concerned about a prostitute's mind set, then perhaps punting isn't for you. Perhaps you have your own self doubts?

While I presume OP was merely curious about the mental state of prostitutes, I totally agree with this sentiment.

Who really gives a shit about whether they are happy little bunnies or on the verge of a mental breakdown. At the end of the day, you are after sex and they are after your money. Who gives a fuck if they sit with their knees curled up and cry in the shower about the fact they are whores. They can get a fucking psychologist with all that money if they need too.

Don't put whores on a fucking pedestal. They are what they are. They don't need your respect and concern. All they want is your money. I doubt they even remember your face after you walk out the door.

[Toshiba]

I agree, who gives a fuck .... We want their pussy, they want our cash

Im not interested in the mindset other than a good attitude while sucking me off etc

We are all a bit mad

[SirPhilipXX]

In all honesty my friends don't even go out to pull either, I don't think many people do these days. It's more about having a good night with mates. Just because we don't all go out looking to take a fuck home doesn't mean we don't have a good night.

A couple of attractive WGs I know only go to gay bars and clubs now when they fancy a night out as they are fed up with being hit upon by young men the whole time. They told me don't get hassled so much in gay clubs which tend to have more relaxed atmosphere apparently.

[overhead]

We are all a bit mad

You speak for yourself.

[overhead]

They can get a fucking psychologist with all that money if they need too.

And some of them do as well.

Don't put whores on a fucking pedestal. They are what they are. They don't need your respect and concern. All they want is your money. I doubt they even remember your face after you walk out the door.

So true. I think there was even a thread on saafe on that very subject. But then again, how many faces do you remember after you've seen a few? I tend to remember body features more than faces.

[cjkanye02]

I think prostitution attracts crazies rather than causes it.

I also think there are a fair few well balanced girls who treat it like a job and don't end up messed up by it.

I have a stressful job and deal with idiots all day long. I also have lots of paid sex. It's just one part of my life though and doesn't really impact real world relationships. I think girls can seperate things in this way better than us guys ever can.

What is true is that it's difficult to leave the job as you must get used to the income so are somewhat trapped from that perspective.

[overhead]

I think prostitution attracts crazies rather than causes it.

I also think there are a fair few well balanced girls who treat it like a job and don't end up messed up by it.

I have a stressful job and deal with idiots all day long. I also have lots of paid sex. It's just one part of my life though and doesn't really impact real world relationships. I think girls can seperate things in this way better than us guys ever can.

What is true is that it's difficult to leave the job as you must get used to the income so are somewhat trapped from that perspective.

I think you are right on all counts. Save that with the girls most of them that are doing it all the time get a very distorted perspective on life and relationships.

I only have paid sex because I have no other choice. It's either that or lose it.

[Louise 100% British]

I've never discussed this with a WG but how does working as a escort/prossie mentally affect their life?

Like how do they handle personal relationships, intimacy with partners, finances, people/friends, family (extended) etc? I have no idea how they would behave towards a guy for example at a club who was trying to hit on them thinking she's a normal girl. 

Just curious so I ask.

Everyone Is different.
Some do find it emotionally difficult that's why they don't last very long and don't give a shit about the quality of service they offer.
It also depends if you have an aim and what your aim is.
I guess if you are in it to support a party lifestyle, you could end up hating the fact you have nothing to show for it.
I don't live a glamorous life style, I could though and when I first started I thought nothing of spending a days wages on clothes and partying, but after a while of escorting, I actually thought I want something to show for it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't go without at all, escorting allows this, but I certainly don't splash the cash. I don't really want friends and family finding out, so I have to live to the standards that they think I should.
The only bit I find hard is not being able to be honest to people that are close to me, but only because I don't enjoy lying.
Apart from that I find it really easy and can easily switch off at the end of a working day.
I don't loathe men at all, not everything you read on SAAFE is true.
When I reach my aim, I will quit escorting, but I haven't set myself a time limit, that generally always fails.
I wouldn't advise asking a wg whilst you are paying for it, it generally comes across as to nosey, or just patronising.
Sorry, I meant to quote the OP.