age id verification

[bob the knob]

just seen an article on mail online  that age id verification will be starting next month fo gaining access to porn websites

[Goldfinch]

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[myothernameis]

'Once the user has been verified, they will automatically be granted access to all sites using AgeID.'

So once I have my id, what to stop someone selling this id, to kids under 18, and it already happens with adult porn sites

Someone buys membership, and puts the username and password on there sites, so dont see this id scheme being any different

[myothernameis]

just seen an article on mail online  that age id verification will be starting next month fo gaining access to porn websites

Even free-to-access sites will be locked down behind a non-pornographic landing page and many of the country's most popular sites have signed up to the AgeID system,

Now the question here, will UK Punting be affected, and dependent on what were sharing, like photos of escorts

[Waterhouse]

Now the question here, will UK Punting be affected, and dependent on what were sharing, like photos of escorts

Don't see why UKP would be affected, it's not a porn site, free, paid or otherwise.

[myothernameis]

Don't see why UKP would be affected, it's not a porn site, free, paid or otherwise.

I know its not, but in the eyes of the regulator, what do they class ukpunting as

Ukpunting is already blocked by some adult filters, where a establishment offers free wifi, so why not the same of age id verification

[ico23]

So, the obvious answer is use a VPN, although I'm not sure you can access UKP with a VPN ??  I'm sure somebody more educated can answer that one.

To be honest, I'm getting a bit fucked off with it all really. You go onto a perfectly legitimate site like Argos. You have to jump through hoops about "accepting cookies" and the using of "personal data" and all the "tracking options" . I only want to buy a new duvet for fucks sake.

[daviemac]

Admin posted about it last year. - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=186731.msg1952769#msg1952769

he doesn't allow VPN's

[Dickled]

I'm wondering if UK Punting will be affected by this?.....

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[jeanphillipe]

I'm wondering if UK Punting will be affected by this?.....

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It's the daily mail, they post shit when somebody thinks something. There was a scare about this last year but it never came to pass

[threechilliman]

No chance of it happening. There'd be riots in the streets.....

[Doc Holliday]

This applies to pornography (images) not all adult content. This site may contain some pornographic images, but they do not constitute more than one third of the content. So all should be fine*?

This is another government pledge which they didn't think through and have struggled with the logistics of implementing it. Rather than just scrapping it they have finally botched a solution.

*In theory

[Doc Holliday]

Also just dawned on me that UKP is not a commercial site any way in that (unlike some punting sites) it has no income stream (from say advertising etc) Is that correct?

In which case the regulations once again should not apply.

There is a good summary of the history of this delayed fiasco here External Link/Members Only

[Home Alone]

Already a thread on the national Discussions board. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=241379.0

Consensus seems to be, "Nowt to worry about."

[mikexxlong]

So, the obvious answer is use a VPN, although I'm not sure you can access UKP with a VPN ??  I'm sure somebody more educated can answer that one.

To be honest, I'm getting a bit fucked off with it all really. You go onto a perfectly legitimate site like Argos. You have to jump through hoops about "accepting cookies" and the using of "personal data" and all the "tracking options" . I only want to buy a new duvet for fucks sake.

tell me about it

welcome to the age of 'big brother'
where EVERTHING is tracked all movements are monitored nothing is hidden they know everything
 an individual does no privacy  total fucking control

and it's getting worst month by month, year by year 

[mh]

It is immature legislation with little thought having been given to the privacy and security implications. The implementation has now been postponed to "the end of the year".

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Controversial plans to force people to prove their age before watching pornography online have been delayed by the Government.

The decision comes amid continuing controversy and confusion over how the blocks will actually be implemented.

[Doc Holliday]

The implementation has now been postponed to "the end of the year".

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"the end of the year" refers to 2018. It now appears April 2019 is the new target?

[mh]

"the end of the year" refers to 2018. It now appears April 2019 is the new target?

Ah! You're absolutely right. Was wishful thinking on my part - someone sent me this a couple of weeks ago.

Looks like we'll be forced to hand over our credit card details to a porn provider whether we want to buy access to their premium stuff or not and even if we're watching porn on a site belonging to one of their competitors.

I'm sure they will never incorrectly charge someone or make it easy to accidentally press a purchase button that looks like a verify button...

And anyway, what harm is there in some corporation being able to trace all the porn you've ever watched? I'm sure the government have thought of that. Oh. Right. It is by design not by accident...

[mh]

If the intention of the legislation is to ensure under 18s can't view porn online, surely all that little Gavin needs is 5 seconds access to Mum's credit card to snap a pic of the front and back of it. In most cases Mum's card won't be used by her for any porn site access so isn't likely to be duplicated on another account.

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'The BBFC has been appointed as the regulator – and we expect they’ll give sites 90 days notice to comply, so it’ll probably be in place by mid-April.

'The BBFC will look at the methods age verification systems use to verify people are 18, so for instance, a name and address wouldn’t be enough – but a scan of a driving licence or a credit card and CVV number would be OK.'

[Home Alone]

If the intention of the legislation is to ensure under 18s can't view porn online, surely all that little Gavin needs is 5 seconds access to Mum's credit card to snap a pic of the front and back of it. In most cases Mum's card won't be used by her for any porn site access so isn't likely to be duplicated on another account.

It'll be a bit of a bugger if Mum's into porn, though!!

[goldwing1]

VPN, tor network, plus other ways to hide your IP address, virtually impossible to ban it.

[Dickled]

VPN, tor network, plus other ways to hide your IP address, virtually impossible to ban it.

I mostly use Opera Browser which has a VPN function. I normally never have it switched on because I'm unable to view UK Punting when it is switched on. However, if I feel the need to watch some porn I'll then make use of it?

[mh]

It'll be a bit of a bugger if Mum's into porn, though!!

Some might even be in the show...

[theejaculator]

Will Age ID effect Adult work..........cuz there's porn on there too

[mh]

Will Age ID effect Adult work..........cuz there's porn on there too

They are not UK based and won't consider themselves primarily a porn site so they may decide to risk it until they are warned. The law applies to any site where more than a third of "content" is porn, but it doesn't define how to calculate that. By one measure almost 100% of their pictorial content is porn so I am sure they should be covered by the checks. Expect them to offer their own fee-based checking service.

[theejaculator]

Jesus can't believe this big brother/Mumsnet shit ......I bet 50% of the UKs porn consumption can be traced back to the houses of parliament.....

[paul_tall_]

They are not UK based and won't consider themselves primarily a porn site so they may decide to risk it until they are warned. The law applies to any site where more than a third of "content" is porn, but it doesn't define how to calculate that. By one measure almost 100% of their pictorial content is porn so I am sure they should be covered by the checks. Expect them to offer their own fee-based checking service.

Looks like they will force verification for access External Link/Members Only
From their site
Anticipated March 2019   All UK Members   Mandatory Age Verification   
In April 2018 new regulation will come into force requiring that no adult content can be accessed by anyone who has not verified that they are an adult.
The latest information regarding the regulations and regulator can be found here: External Link/Members Only

AdultWork.com has been age-verifying members automatically since 2015.  If you have purchased credits via SMS, credit card or PaySafeCard then you are already age verified and your browsing experience will remain unchanged.  Similarly, if you are offering services and have achieved Verified Member status then you too will see no change.

If you have not age verified yet, we would invite you to do so without delay to ensure an uninterrupted browsing experience.  You can age-verify quite simply via this page.

[mh]

So they are banking on the fact that their existing verification process for payments is sufficient. Fair enough.

They'll have to change their front page, though. At this moment when not logged their home page has an image of the gargantuan pussy lips of "escort of the day" NicoleDuPapillon as the first centrally placed image and also a shemale holding her massive cock off to the right hand side.

 

[gmonkey]

It's the daily mail, they post shit when somebody thinks something. There was a scare about this last year but it never came to pass

Except that the Digital Economy Act comes into force in April 2019.

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"Creating an age-verification regulator to publish guidelines about how pornographic websites which operate "on a commercial basis" should ensure their users are aged 18 or older."

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"A Bill To make provision about electronic communications infrastructure and services; to provide for restricting access to online pornography"

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The act should have come into effect in April 2018, it was delayed to April 2019.  I very much doubt it will be here in April too but it's there to restrict any pornographic material on a commercial basis.   That includes sites that are free but make revenue from advertising, so, UKPunting is caught by the act.

[Happyjose]

The act should have come into effect in April 2018, it was delayed to April 2019.  I very much doubt it will be here in April too but it's there to restrict any pornographic material on a commercial basis.   That includes sites that are free but make revenue from advertising, so, UKPunting is caught by the act.

It would appear you are talking bollocks

In what way does your post, that I have highlighted, apply to UKP?

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[Wheelman]

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The act should have come into effect in April 2018, it was delayed to April 2019.  I very much doubt it will be here in April too but it's there to restrict any pornographic material on a commercial basis.   That includes sites that are free but make revenue from advertising, so, UKPunting is caught by the act.

This would be unfeasible. Any site not hosted within the UK would not be subject to any UK age verification. So the check would be implemented at ISP level the same way it is with phones. If you haven't come across it recently when you get a new phone contract you have to opt in to be able to visit "adult" websites. 

They would have the responsibility of checking that you are over 18 before allowing you to access any porn.

As usual this sort of legislation is half baked and not at all thought out as its full of pitfalls.

Knowing the government they would probably try and push for the age check on each website and get the ISP's to try and block the ones that don't comply. As I said above unfeasible.

[gmonkey]

It would appear you are talking bollocks

In what way does your post, that I have highlighted, apply to UKP?

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Are there advertisements to generate revenue to run this site?

[Doc Holliday]

Are there advertisements to generate revenue to run this site?

Not that I am aware of?

[Happyjose]

Are there advertisements to generate revenue to run this site?

No

You’ve been a member for several years, you should know this

Admin provides this site entirely at his own cost, with no vested interests.

Maybe check first before posting misinformed bollocks

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[myothernameis]

In April 2018 new regulation will come into force requiring that no adult content can be accessed by anyone who has not verified that they are an adult.

Should be law tomorrow, but looks like this has been delayed, as there is concern about the third parties, and what they could do with any data they get from us

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There too busy with brexit 

[Don Basil]

Basically bad law which won't work . People will use either VPN or TOR. I've seen an article in the latest
New Scientist magazine, of all places, criticising this legislation. That says it all really.

[GBF121]

New Scientist  mag,fliping eck,its been years since Ive read that !

 Reminds me of the old Woody Alan film, he buys a couple of "Girly " mags as they were called in those days, plus a couple of "regular" publications like New York Times, The Economist etc etc. He walks up to the counter with this bundle,the bloke looks through the lot,totting up the price and calls out in a loud voice,"Hey Joe, How much is  Massive Mellon's Monthly  ?" 

[mh]

It seems there is a UK company offering an alternative to the Pornhub spin off company for age verification. Whether Pornhub and it's sister sites will accept it is another matter.

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[Dickled]

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[Dickled]

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[korx]

stupid attempts at censorship and nanny state 

[smiths]

The BBFC who will be regulating all this shit referred me to this site; External Link/Members Only for more information. That site is part of the BBFC but the bloke said it wasn't.

[Lee4u]

External Link/Members Only   This the ID article

[milkman10]

Are there advertisements to generate revenue to run this site?

do you see any adverts ???? admin does all of this at his own cost let alone all the time he must put in monitoring it all a big thank you to him from all who use this site and how much it really does help

[theoldmaggot]

Too much of a risk doing this - Who going to have your details and how is it going to be kept safe?


Cracked me up when I saw a poll online somewhere; where the majority of the women support this, but majority of the men are against it.


TOM

[Home Alone]

External Link/Members Only   This the ID article

Sorry; haven't read any of the articles on this and what I've heard on the radio hasn't addressed the point that's occurred to me.

Does anybody on here know if we'll have to succumb to this new law even if we're accessing porn from free sites like xhamster?

[daviemac]

Sorry; haven't read any of the articles on this and what I've heard on the radio hasn't addressed the point that's occurred to me.

Does anybody on here know if we'll have to succumb to this new law even if we're accessing porn from free sites like xhamster?

From the article

Britons who want to watch free porn online may have to prove their age using their passport in as little as eight weeks.

so looks like it.

[Home Alone]

Thanks, daviemac. I know I should have looked but I've had a funny old day

[myothernameis]

Seems Reddit wont be affected by this new law, as more than a third of the content must be porn

Likewise, any platform that hosts pornography but does not do so on a commercial basis - meaning it does not charge a fee or make money from adverts or other activity - will not be affected

But the government according to the bbc have cocked up

Furthermore, it will remain legal to use virtual private networks (VPNs), which can make it seem like a UK-based computer is located elsewhere, to evade the age checks.

So the children will just use vpn

[Bogof60]

Bit of a pain getting the porn pass but I suppose I will have to