Tips for UK Punting

[nodramaguy3]

Hi everyone,

I'm from the USA and I've come across your website while doing some research on some fun places to go for the fun I'm interested in having.  I've just signed up for this message board, but I'm new in more ways than just being a member.  I'm used to the scene where I'm from in southern California, but I've noticed that some of the lingo or slang is the same, and some of it isn't.  For example, I had never heard the term "punting" until an hour or so ago.

So I'd been considering good places to go, and Prague had its appeal... but I don't exactly speak Czech.  I was also checking out the UK as well, and that would certainly make it easier on a language barrier (and possibly not getting ripped off where I'm staying?), but maybe someone feeling friendly could help me out with a bit of advice.

It looks to me like the prices out there are a little more expensive than I'd expect to pay here.  The service might be better, though.  I saw some of you complaining about difficulty with OWO in San Francisco in the international chat.  Are there good prices or deals there?  If so, where might those be?  And if anyone knows of a link for the commonly used acronyms (like OWO) out in the UK, that would really help a guy out.  Or maybe it would be simpler to go to Prague?  Let me know what you think, and thanks in advance

[Gigabyte]

I don't know if you use Adultwork but there is a sex dictionary in the help section of the website. Adultwork is I think the main site that punters use to locate escorts in the uk. Otherwise any particular terms your not sure of just ask. Also in the UK its not illegal to see a girl and pay for sex its only illegal if you go to a brothel ie more than one girl working from the same premises which is different to USA. Because its not illegal there are more girls escorting (particularly from other parts of Europe where it is illegal) I think that has meant more competition between escorts for business that's why they are more willing to do things like OWO

[Daffodil]

Hi everyone,

I'm from the USA and I've come across your website while doing some research on some fun places to go for the fun I'm interested in having.  I've just signed up for this message board, but I'm new in more ways than just being a member.  I'm used to the scene where I'm from in southern California, but I've noticed that some of the lingo or slang is the same, and some of it isn't.  For example, I had never heard the term "punting" until an hour or so ago.

So I'd been considering good places to go, and Prague had its appeal... but I don't exactly speak Czech.  I was also checking out the UK as well, and that would certainly make it easier on a language barrier (and possibly not getting ripped off where I'm staying?), but maybe someone feeling friendly could help me out with a bit of advice.

It looks to me like the prices out there are a little more expensive than I'd expect to pay here.  The service might be better, though.  I saw some of you complaining about difficulty with OWO in San Francisco in the international chat.  Are there good prices or deals there?  If so, where might those be?  And if anyone knows of a link for the commonly used acronyms (like OWO) out in the UK, that would really help a guy out.  Or maybe it would be simpler to go to Prague?  Let me know what you think, and thanks in advance

I wouldn't count on it. Also you probably need to learn Romanian to punt here 

[Strawberry]

I don't know if you use Adultwork but there is a sex dictionary in the help section of the website. Adultwork is I think the main site that punters use to locate escorts in the uk. Otherwise any particular terms your not sure of just ask. Also in the UK its not illegal to see a girl and pay for sex its only illegal if you go to a brothel ie more than one girl working from the same premises which is different to USA. Because its not illegal there are more girls escorting (particularly from other parts of Europe where it is illegal) I think that has meant more competition between escorts for business that's why they are more willing to do things like OWO

It's not illegal to be a customer of a brothel.

[overhead]

I wouldn't count on it. Also you probably need to learn Romanian to punt here 

LOL

I wouldn't recommend going to Prague anyway if you don't know what you're doing. Or anywhere else in Europe.

I saw a documentary a few months ago based in that part of the world and mostly they were intent of robbing the naiive foreign punters. Laughing at how stupid they are to even go there.

You'll find the English prozzies are by and large a lot more user friendly than most places, although there is still a lot of dodgy stuff going on as these pages testify.

Even those supposed bastions of an open minded sex market, Aus & NZ are rather dodgy, and expensive!

Buyer beware!

[CBPaul]

Take a look at the punting abroad section, many European destinations are covered.

If I was planning a European trip I wouldn't be able to resist a visit to some of the FKK establishments in Germany.

Prague always has an appeal but in reality the chances of a naive foreigner getting ripped off are too high for my liking.

[maxxblue]

It's not illegal to be a customer of a brothel.

Then why are punters arrested when brothels are raided?

[mh]

Then why are punters arrested when brothels are raided?

Are they arrested? If so, what for? They may have their details taken but that's not the same.

[maxxblue]

I've read a few newspaper articles about clients being arrested (e.g. External Link/Members Only ).

I also understand that punters can be charged for using workers who have been trafficked, even if they were unaware of this.

[Strawberry]

Then why are punters arrested when brothels are raided?

I wasn't aware of punters being arrested, they shouldn't be unless they are commiting some other offence which includes being  pain in the neck aka obstructing an officer, or have drugs or other illegal items on them. From the various stories I've read on forums and in newspapers they might well ask punters for  a statement as 'evidence' but that should be it.

Unfortunately I don't have links right now, but I do know it is not illegal to pay for sex in the UK.

It's illegal to run a brothel (place where more than one woman offers sex and doesn't have to be on the same day), it's illegal to pay someone who has been forced or coerced, but there's no offence of visiting or using a brothel.

[Strawberry]

I've read a few newspaper articles about clients being arrested (e.g. External Link/Members Only ).

I also understand that punters can be charged for using workers who have been trafficked, even if they were unaware of this.

Correct but still yet to hear of anyone who has been charged, or convicted of this offence and it wouldn't necessarily have to be in a brothel.

Regards the newspaper article, please be aware what you see in print can be factually quite incorrect - I have seen basic errors in reporting things I know quite a bit about, errors that could mislead.

So I always read between the lines, and think about what they are trying to say or the image they are putting across. Firstly police can be a bit heavy handed, which makes the whole thing look much more dramatic than it usually is (I've witness Newcastle police 'kettling' students a few years ago, it was a tiny handful of small students, completely swamped by probably twice as many, much bigger, much taller officers).

This sentence is directly from the article "Later, two men with their heads covered by coats were handcuffed and escorted into a waiting police van. These man were later identified to be clients." makes me think everyone at  the premises was arrested, they'd say they needed to work out who was who, in the heat of the moment they don't want the brothel management slinking off so everyone is lumped in together. Doesn't say they were charged with anything and I very much doubt they received anything more than an 'on your way' afterwards. Ok best avoided and it's a hazard of visiting but still doesn't make it illegal to visit brothel. Contrary to popular belief arrests without charges (and without any evidence) are not uncommon. Police in a high pressure situation tend to arrest first, ask questions later.

Here's home office guidance to actual offences and if it ain't there it's not illegal;

External Link/Members Only

[Gigabyte]

Depends on if the OP wants to take the chance of being arrested and released without charge later, hence why I mentioned brothels being illegal. Better to go to independents, although I have wondered if you have an outcall to your home address and its a duo I guess that might well mean your running a brothel?

[Strawberry]

Depends on if the OP wants to take the chance of being arrested and released without charge later, hence why I mentioned brothels being illegal. Better to go to independents, although I have wondered if you have an outcall to your home address and its a duo I guess that might well mean your running a brothel?

We are now on the same page

Two women together is dodgy ground, which is why I have never offered duos and remain independent. Logic however says that police are unlikely to spend time following 2 women around on outcall just to catch them at some client's house who they can then charge, they are busy enough as it is.

More likely to go for a parlour where they can involve POCA and a much bigger, easier conviction.

[Gigabyte]

Agreed

[maxxblue]

Correct but still yet to hear of anyone who has been charged, or convicted of this offence and it wouldn't necessarily have to be in a brothel.

Regards the newspaper article, please be aware what you see in print can be factually quite incorrect - I have seen basic errors in reporting things I know quite a bit about, errors that could mislead.

So I always read between the lines, and think about what they are trying to say or the image they are putting across. Firstly police can be a bit heavy handed, which makes the whole thing look much more dramatic than it usually is (I've witness Newcastle police 'kettling' students a few years ago, it was a tiny handful of small students, completely swamped by probably twice as many, much bigger, much taller officers).

This sentence is directly from the article "Later, two men with their heads covered by coats were handcuffed and escorted into a waiting police van. These man were later identified to be clients." makes me think everyone at  the premises was arrested, they'd say they needed to work out who was who, in the heat of the moment they don't want the brothel management slinking off so everyone is lumped in together. Doesn't say they were charged with anything and I very much doubt they received anything more than an 'on your way' afterwards. Ok best avoided and it's a hazard of visiting but still doesn't make it illegal to visit brothel. Contrary to popular belief arrests without charges (and without any evidence) are not uncommon. Police in a high pressure situation tend to arrest first, ask questions later.

Here's home office guidance to actual offences and if it ain't there it's not illegal;

External Link/Members Only

Thanks for your advice Strawberry.

[Curious6705]

Depends on if the OP wants to take the chance of being arrested and released without charge later, hence why I mentioned brothels being illegal. Better to go to independents, although I have wondered if you have an outcall to your home address and its a duo I guess that might well mean your running a brothel?

I began punting 25 years ago, have seen more than 1000 WGs in that time, mostly in what would be classed as brothels, and I've never seen a raid. In my experience, and opinion, it's a better bet than seeing "indies". And tbh I don't think my experience is untypical.

I'm not going to "advise" the OP he should avoid indies, otoh, it seems to me to be needlessly directive to advise against "brothels" on the grounds that they may be raided.

[maxxblue]

Hi Curious - why would you advise using brothels over indies - what is the problem with using indies?

[Curious6705]

Hi Curious - why would you advise using brothels over indies - what is the problem with using indies?

Please re-read my post - that is not what I said.

[maxxblue]

I realised after I had replied that you said you wouldn't advise against seeing indies, but am still curious about your views on indies?

[Curious6705]

I realised after I had replied that you said you wouldn't advise against seeing indies, but am still curious about your views on indies?

It's been my experience that visiting well-run places that may be classed as brothels under UK law has been a safe bet for a good punt. Whereas I found AW to be something of a lottery. Of course reviews and views posted on UKP may help reduce the risks of having a bad punt, just as much when booking an individual WG as visiting an establishment with multiple WGs.

If you take the time to browse UKP I believe you will find this is borne out by the experiences reported by many members, and also, in their collective experience, raids on well-run brothels are a pretty rare occurrence.