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Author Topic: Change to AdultWork feedback  (Read 6055 times)

Offline Daffodil

I've heard that if I leave a negative feedback, and the prossie disputes it, it automatically becomes neutral. Is that true?

That's bullshit if it is, and another example of AW being anti-punter  :thumbsdown:

Offline vorian

I've heard that if I leave a negative feedback, and the prossie disputes it, it automatically becomes neutral. Is that true?

That's bullshit if it is, and another example of AW being anti-punter  :thumbsdown:

Wouldn't surprise me, if it is true another reason if anyone really needed one to ignore AW FB.
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Offline Dani

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Its true but most people can see beyond that and unless it is obviously spiteful feedback then most are not stupid.  Genuine feedback with a response such as he tried to bb me or he stank will just make the prossie look stupid as most who use AW are aware of the usual bollocks some prossies put in response.  It works on both prossie and punter profiles as I have seen a couple of punter profiles with the same sort of thing.  Bad feedback from the prossie with responses like she was a druggie or she tried to rip me off even though they left her glowing feedback.
Always let the other person leave feedback first so if they leave you good then you leave a neg they cant exactly dispute it as they left you good feedback.  I always check this when I see a dispute

Offline vorian

Its true but most people can see beyond that and unless it is obviously spiteful feedback then most are not stupid.  Genuine feedback with a response such as he tried to bb me or he stank will just make the prossie look stupid as most who use AW are aware of the usual bollocks some prossies put in response.  It works on both prossie and punter profiles as I have seen a couple of punter profiles with the same sort of thing.  Bad feedback from the prossie with responses like she was a druggie or she tried to rip me off even though they left her glowing feedback.
Always let the other person leave feedback first so if they leave you good then you leave a neg they cant exactly dispute it as they left you good feedback.  I always check this when I see a dispute

How does the SP feedback system work Dani I have heard about a system where the prossie can leave a comment and traffic light report which only other SP can access. Is this system widely used by WG's and do you find it useful or is it as abused as is the standard AW FB.
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Offline Daffodil

Its true but most people can see beyond that and unless it is obviously spiteful feedback then most are not stupid.  Genuine feedback with a response such as he tried to bb me or he stank will just make the prossie look stupid as most who use AW are aware of the usual bollocks some prossies put in response.  It works on both prossie and punter profiles as I have seen a couple of punter profiles with the same sort of thing.  Bad feedback from the prossie with responses like she was a druggie or she tried to rip me off even though they left her glowing feedback.
Always let the other person leave feedback first so if they leave you good then you leave a neg they cant exactly dispute it as they left you good feedback.  I always check this when I see a dispute

It's nonsense that 'most' people are able to judge AW feedback well. What are you basing that on? Even members here give the prossie the benefit of the doubt sometimes. Alexyfoot still doesn't believe that that prossie in Brum left malicious feedback.

And what about those who just check the rating and/or summary?

If a prossie disputes every negative then she may not have a single negative point against her profile  :dash:

Offline vorian

It's nonsense that 'most' people are able to judge AW feedback well. What are you basing that on? Even members here give the prossie the benefit of the doubt sometimes. Alexyfoot still doesn't believe that that prossie in Brum left malicious feedback.

And what about those who just check the rating and/or summary?

If a prossie disputes every negative then she may not have a single negative point against her profile  :dash:

Has it been confirmed about this change to the AW feedback, may I ask how you found out this was being discussed, it sound like the sort of thing pro$$ienet would advocate.
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Offline Daffodil

Has it been confirmed about this change to the AW feedback, may I ask how you found out this was being discussed, it sound like the sort of thing pro$$ienet would advocate.

It was in a thread on prossienet. I didn't read it all, but it seemed to be common knowledge.

Also Dani 'confirms' it above, but she often gets things wrong  :hi:

Offline philboi

How does the SP feedback system work Dani I have heard about a system where the prossie can leave a comment and traffic light report which only other SP can access. Is this system widely used by WG's and do you find it useful or is it as abused as is the standard AW FB.

It's a crap system! I've had a report left by a spiteful wg about me in the past - not a word of truth in it.
I knew nothing about it until another wg pointed it out. Emailed AW and they removed the report pretty quickly.
Also any wg can do this and there's no nickname attached to it so it can be difficult to identify the wg.
I really can't see the point when AW have the FB system. It's open to abuse.
It just supports what punters on here have said many times. 'DON'T USE THE SYSTEM' It's better to stay away from AW, have a punting phone and only call wgs using a phone number. 

Offline Ali Katt

It still gets flagged as a dispute though. Negatives left for a punter are still negative, even if disputed.

Offline Timo

AW is totally biased towards prossies. So just use it to browse for prossies and then check for information and reviews on here.


« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 04:15:36 PM by Timo »

Offline vorian

AW is totally biased in favour of the prossy. So just use it to browse for prossies and then check for information and reviews on here.

Well summed up  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Offline Daffodil

AW is totally biased towards prossies. So just use it to browse for prossies and then check for information and reviews on here.

Not entirely true. AW is biased towards AW.

Prossies (genuine ones) run foul of AW too.

That is why they are not harder on scams, the credits the scam profiles generate are confiscated by AW.

Offline Dani

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Has it been confirmed about this change to the AW feedback, may I ask how you found out this was being discussed, it sound like the sort of thing pro$$ienet would advocate.

The feedback system and disputing negs turning them into neutral hasn't changed it has been like that since I joined AW in 2009.  The only thing that has changed is the notes system which punters cant see and is often abused so I only believe notes if the writer gives their name as they are anon which leaves them wide open to abuse

Offline vorian

The feedback system and disputing negs turning them into neutral hasn't changed it has been like that since I joined AW in 2009.  The only thing that has changed is the notes system which punters cant see and is often abused so I only believe notes if the writer gives their name as they are anon which leaves them wide open to abuse

So the notes system is even more abused than the FB. Does that not mean as a SP the protection some less experienced prossies think it provides them is a dangerous illusion. AW just gets better and better.  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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Roland D Hay

Always let the other person leave feedback first

You go first, no you, no you, really no you, no you, aw fuck it!

Offline MidlandsEscortxo

Not entirely true. AW is biased towards AW.

Prossies (genuine ones) run foul of AW too.

That is why they are not harder on scams, the credits the scam profiles generate are confiscated by AW.

Also when WG's accounts are hacked or even when their was the 2/3 times AW was hacked last year AW hardly ever gives credits back ... scamming little arse holes .. but what can you do, at least the site pays the bills I guess

Offline AnthG

I've heard that if I leave a negative feedback, and the prossie disputes it, it automatically becomes neutral. Is that true?

That's bullshit if it is, and another example of AW being anti-punter  :thumbsdown:
I read that, got annoyed, and then read all the responses and then figured I think I have misunderstood this and what you are meaning.

So to confirm.

If I leave a girl a negative feedback, and she puts a response beneath it saying he actually never turned up to the booking etc etc.

Is this a dispute or is this just a response? And thus it stays negative, or is this what you mean will then switch to neutral?

And if not then do you mean a dispute is only if the girl specifically emails AW and asks them to investigate this and they then find that likely the girl may have a point and so change it to neutral manually.

If its the latter of the two to be honest I don't mind that and its kind of good there is this avenue open to challenge malicious feedbacks as long both WGs and punters have this ability.

If its the former then I mind that very much and that should not be occurring as this is a stupid idea.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 06:09:04 PM by AnthG »

Roland D Hay

The feedback system and disputing negs turning them into neutral hasn't changed it has been like that since I joined AW in 2009.  The only thing that has changed is the notes system which punters cant see and is often abused so I only believe notes if the writer gives their name as they are anon which leaves them wide open to abuse

Yes, I left a WG negative feedback and she flagged me up as a dangerous punter, anonymously of course. I have fuck all to do with AW feedback now, I don't use the booking system if I can avoid it, I don't believe a fucking word that's written in feedback or reviews and I keep my AW identity separate from my UKP identity. We can but hope that it becomes so widely known that AW reviews and feedback are so shit that the system becomes redundant. To my mind it already is.

Offline Dani

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The feedback system has been useless for a couple of years as both prossie and punter are normally too afraid to leave a negative incase they get a spiteful one in response.  Instead they will put things like on time clean and fresh as feedback meaning they have nothing nice to say about that person but didn't want to leave a neg.

The notes system was a good idea until they made it anonymous so girls leave good clients bad notes so they have to keep coming back as no one else will see them. 
Anything anonymous is going to be open to abuse and the notes system should not be anonymous.

I also feel feedback should be hidden until either both parties have left it or after one month if they have not both left it.  That way they wont know if a punter/prossie has left neg or positive so cant retaliate out of spite. It would make the feedback system more reliable if there was no fear you could be left a negative just because you gave one

Offline kingkong

The feedback system and disputing negs turning them into neutral hasn't changed it has been like that since I joined AW in 2009.  The only thing that has changed is the notes system which punters cant see and is often abused so I only believe notes if the writer gives their name as they are anon which leaves them wide open to abuse

Can only "verified escorts" see the notes system or can any escort with an account see it?

Offline vorian

Can only "verified escorts" see the notes system or can any escort with an account see it?

That is a good question, this note system does interest me as it seems so underhanded and potentially dangerous for punters and prossies.
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Offline Mara

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Can only "verified escorts" see the notes system or can any escort with an account see it?

Only verified escorts can see the notes.

AW feedback is pretty much useless for both sides and just a few days ago, I had to learn it the hard way.  :(
I think both, punters and WG's should trust their gut instinct rather than the FB/notes system before making a decision.

Offline mattylondon

Yes, I left a WG negative feedback and she flagged me up as a dangerous punter, anonymously of course. I have fuck all to do with AW feedback now, I don't use the booking system if I can avoid it, I don't believe a fucking word that's written in feedback or reviews and I keep my AW identity separate from my UKP identity. We can but hope that it becomes so widely known that AW reviews and feedback are so shit that the system becomes redundant. To my mind it already is.
Timo gave decent advice. I only pay closer attention to feedback if it's hidden or has negatives displayed. Even then, it doesn't always follow that the woman is a poor Service Provider or a fraud. I've punted a couple of perfectly decent women with hidden or negative feedback. A quick phone call or e-mail soon flushes them out. And I've punted plenty of women, who've had dozens of glowing feedbacks, who I thought were crap!  :D

I tend to go for displayed numbers. Generally, I can't be arsed playing footsie with a prossie via e-mail ping pong. I'm the paying customer. I call the shots.  :hi:
« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 07:32:15 PM by mattylondon »

Offline Timo

Also when WG's accounts are hacked or even when their was the 2/3 times AW was hacked last year AW hardly ever gives credits back ... scamming little arse holes .. but what can you do, at least the site pays the bills I guess

What a load of bullshit.
Individual prossy accounts are not "hacked" It is the boyfriend/husband/pimp who knows the password and sabotages/closes the account.
The "2/3 times AW was hacked last year" is also complete bullshit as they were not "hacked". The aw outages last year were due to something completely different.
And if memory serves me correctly when aw went down there was an influx of touting prossies on here.
Also, it's not aw "that pays the bills", it's us punters who that book you.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2014, 09:19:41 PM by Timo »

Offline Ali Katt

What a load of bullshit.
Individual prossy accounts are not "hacked" It is the boyfriend/husband/pimp who knows the password and sabotages/closes the account.
The "2/3 times AW was hacked last year" is also complete bullshit as they were not "hacked". The aw outages last year were due to something completely different.
And if memory serves me correctly when aw went down there was an influx of touting prossies on here.
I'm not sure about the inhouse politics with AW, I know they had some attacks on the sites, but needless to say some escort used this as an excuse to remove old profiles and some would have been removed because they were fake anyway.


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