Phoenix Party - Baker Street, erotic feast when fellow punters behave

[samtor]

I made it over to Aunt Em's today and thought I would finally write a review.  I've commented a few times on other Phoenix threads.  I have been going to TPC/LMP for nearly 10 years.  But I thought I would just do a summary of today's proceedings to contribute to the UKP collection.  Hands up, I am a TPC fan.  I've been to a number of parties in the area and other countries and I've not found any that match TPC.  The quality of the girls, the action, the cost, the booking (no need to register).

COMMS - Very efficient.  Call in the morning.  Book in the party.  Get a text confirming the booking with address details.

COST - £160 for 2 hours

WEBSITE - External Link/Members Only

THE GIRLS - 4 girls for 5 guys
Channelle - Ebony gem with firm curves
Ruby - Alabaster star with one of the best racks around.
Selina - Trim, petite Romanian with a Romanian typical coolness, but smiley and active.
Sabrina - Newbie pneumatic Brazilian

THE ACTION - All the positions, RO, OWO, CG, RCG, blah, blah.  No need for detail on the bog standard stuff which there was plenty of over 2 hours.  I'll share the stuff that you only get a parties like TPC...
On my back receiving OWO from Channelle while Sabrina lowered her bountiful bosoms into my mouth while she was being pounded from behind.
Watching Ruby writhe with pleasure getting pumped while I doggied Selina.
Standing up at the mirror with Channelle flanking me on one side with her curves pressed up against me and Selina on the other getting a 2 handed HE.

3 pops which takes a bit of spacing out to manage at my age.

There's been lots of chat on UKP about "TPC ain't what it used to be".  Some of that is nostalgia.  Some of that is true.  Less food, but who's there for a meal?  Smaller parties as they used to have 5 or 6 even 7 girls and now they have 4 or 5. 

But one of the big changes is the punters.  In the beginning, the parties were for people looking for an erotic feast.  Everyone was up for it and it created a really orgy atmosphere.  Now (especially since the 2008 economic crash according to Em) she is getting more customers who are looking for VFM shag session.  I have witnessed more bad behavior like hogging girls and not changing positions.  They just want a carousel of cheap screwing without really engaging in the party side of it.  Some guys just sit back looking bored and let one of the girls suck for half and hour.  Some even put numbing agent on their dick so they don't cum.  WTF?  What's the point?  Fortunately, today most of the attendees were veterans so there was a more lively vibe with a bit of fun chatter.

It would be interesting to have a UKP for SPs to review punters!  AW sort of tries to do this, but it's not really a review.  It's more of a tick box that the punter is okay.  You could ID the punters by their cellphone number (and as SPs play games changing profiles, less respectable punters might change numbers a lot...but then they wouldn't accrue much positive recoms).  Most digital matching services (eg.  Uber, AirBNB) have two-way reviewing.  If there was some accountability on the punters, maybe that would lead to less bad behavior.  Maybe the SPs would prioritise bookings or even give discounts to punters with great reviews.

[LLPunting]

Thanks for the review, proving that it is possible to review a single party event. 

Hope your get over the party soon as you went la-la in the last para.   

[smiths]

I made it over to Aunt Em's today and thought I would finally write a review.  I've commented a few times on other Phoenix threads.  I have been going to TPC/LMP for nearly 10 years.  But I thought I would just do a summary of today's proceedings to contribute to the UKP collection.  Hands up, I am a TPC fan.  I've been to a number of parties in the area and other countries and I've not found any that match TPC.  The quality of the girls, the action, the cost, the booking (no need to register).

COMMS - Very efficient.  Call in the morning.  Book in the party.  Get a text confirming the booking with address details.

COST - £160 for 2 hours

WEBSITE - External Link/Members Only

THE GIRLS - 4 girls for 5 guys
Channelle - Ebony gem with firm curves
Ruby - Alabaster star with one of the best racks around.
Selina - Trim, petite Romanian with a Romanian typical coolness, but smiley and active.
Sabrina - Newbie pneumatic Brazilian

THE ACTION - All the positions, RO, OWO, CG, RCG, blah, blah.  No need for detail on the bog standard stuff which there was plenty of over 2 hours.  I'll share the stuff that you only get a parties like TPC...
On my back receiving OWO from Channelle while Sabrina lowered her bountiful bosoms into my mouth while she was being pounded from behind.
Watching Ruby writhe with pleasure getting pumped while I doggied Selina.
Standing up at the mirror with Channelle flanking me on one side with her curves pressed up against me and Selina on the other getting a 2 handed HE.

3 pops which takes a bit of spacing out to manage at my age.

There's been lots of chat on UKP about "TPC ain't what it used to be".  Some of that is nostalgia.  Some of that is true.  Less food, but who's there for a meal?  Smaller parties as they used to have 5 or 6 even 7 girls and now they have 4 or 5. 

But one of the big changes is the punters.  In the beginning, the parties were for people looking for an erotic feast.  Everyone was up for it and it created a really orgy atmosphere.  Now (especially since the 2008 economic crash according to Em) she is getting more customers who are looking for VFM shag session.  I have witnessed more bad behavior like hogging girls and not changing positions.  They just want a carousel of cheap screwing without really engaging in the party side of it.  Some guys just sit back looking bored and let one of the girls suck for half and hour.  Some even put numbing agent on their dick so they don't cum.  WTF?  What's the point?  Fortunately, today most of the attendees were veterans so there was a more lively vibe with a bit of fun chatter.

It would be interesting to have a UKP for SPs to review punters!  AW sort of tries to do this, but it's not really a review.  It's more of a tick box that the punter is okay.  You could ID the punters by their cellphone number (and as SPs play games changing profiles, less respectable punters might change numbers a lot...but then they wouldn't accrue much positive recoms).  Most digital matching services (eg.  Uber, AirBNB) have two-way reviewing.  If there was some accountability on the punters, maybe that would lead to less bad behavior.  Maybe the SPs would prioritise bookings or even give discounts to punters with great reviews.

The paying punter can punt however they like as long as civil and there is nothing wrong with wanting a VFM shag. What punters shouldn't do at sex parties in my view is be hogging cunts, which some are.

As to punters being reviewed, they are the ones paying, and what A/Ws feedback system can do is ensure some bad WGs and their pimps don't get negative feedback off some punters as they have posted they wouldn't be honest and give them it in case the WG does the same back in revenge. That works against the best interests of punters in my view. Personally I couldn't give a shit what a WG thinks of me, I am paying her for a service, she is the one advertising for punters so she is the one who gets reviewed/feedback, as it should be and what UKP is here for.

If Em wanted to change the TPC party model so it was more orgy like she could do so, she doesn't as she knows it would lose her punters though it may gain her some as well.

[LLPunting]

The paying punter can punt however they like as long as civil and there is nothing wrong with wanting a VFM shag. What punters shouldn't do at sex parties in my view is be hogging cunts, which some are.

As to punters being reviewed, they are the ones paying, and what A/Ws feedback system can do is ensure some bad WGs and their pimps don't get negative feedback off some punters as they have posted they wouldn't be honest and give them it in case the WG does the same back in revenge. That works against the best interests of punters in my view. Personally I couldn't give a shit what a WG thinks of me, I am paying her for a service, she is the one advertising for punters so she is the one who gets reviewed/feedback, as it should be and what UKP is here for.

If Em wanted to change the TPC party model so it was more orgy like she could do so, she doesn't as she knows it would lose her punters though it may gain her some as well.

+1

[samtor]

Hope your get over the party soon as you went la-la in the last para.   

Yeah, just musing.  Apologies for drifting off topic.  To each his own for punting, when it comes to sex parties, the review and experience depends a bit on the punters not just the girls which was my point.

[samtor]

The paying punter can punt however they like as long as civil and there is nothing wrong with wanting a VFM shag. What punters shouldn't do at sex parties in my view is be hogging cunts, which some are.

Yep, that's probably my key point here.   

As to punters being reviewed, they are the ones paying, and what A/Ws feedback system can do is ensure some bad WGs and their pimps don't get negative feedback off some punters as they have posted they wouldn't be honest and give them it in case the WG does the same back in revenge. That works against the best interests of punters in my view. Personally I couldn't give a shit what a WG thinks of me, I am paying her for a service, she is the one advertising for punters so she is the one who gets reviewed/feedback, as it should be and what UKP is here for.

I understand your point, but in the digital matchmaking economy (again Uber, AirBnb are the most prominent) the customers get reviewed as well.  The service is not just picking up a tin of beans off the shelf.  How the customer consumes the service varies hugely.  Are they prompt, do they have good communications themselves, are they timewasters who cancel or no show, are they considerate, are they "good", etc, etc?  Yes, "revenge" reviews are a problem this system.  AirBnb and Uber have appeal mechanisms and have to manage that problem.  But the SPs have to deal with punters who post unfair attack reviews on them for unjustified reasons.  UKP has risen to the top because it has good moderating which helps to guard against behaviour like this.  Also, the community guards against it in that if a girl gets really bad review here others who have seen her chime in with countering views.  Similarly, if a punter got an unfair review, girls could chip in saying I've seen that bloke and he is a fine customer.

If Em wanted to change the TPC party model so it was more orgy like she could do so, she doesn't as she knows it would lose her punters though it may gain her some as well.

I think Em is indeed torn between keeping a viable business and pushing the punters and girls to a different way of doing things.  I still applaud her for providing an experience the quality of which you can't find anywhere else in London.

[GreyDave]

   your comment of shag fest rings true with me I went well over a year ago and found the usall suspects of the "shaven headed tattooed steriod taking baggy pants alfa male type tossers taking piss"

As an older out of shape and grey guy although the girls were nice these arseholes put others off  as I find the refeul time for me is now an age I stick to one 2 ones and when I feel up to sticking litttle fella in multipul girls the walk ups can be fun for ONLY £20 plus 2 quid tip I reccomend 

[smiths]

Yep, that's probably my key point here.   


I understand your point, but in the digital matchmaking economy (again Uber, AirBnb are the most prominent) the customers get reviewed as well.  The service is not just picking up a tin of beans off the shelf.  How the customer consumes the service varies hugely.  Are they prompt, do they have good communications themselves, are they timewasters who cancel or no show, are they considerate, are they "good", etc, etc?  Yes, "revenge" reviews are a problem this system.  AirBnb and Uber have appeal mechanisms and have to manage that problem.  But the SPs have to deal with punters who post unfair attack reviews on them for unjustified reasons.  UKP has risen to the top because it has good moderating which helps to guard against behaviour like this.  Also, the community guards against it in that if a girl gets really bad review here others who have seen her chime in with countering views.  Similarly, if a punter got an unfair review, girls could chip in saying I've seen that bloke and he is a fine customer.
I think Em is indeed torn between keeping a viable business and pushing the punters and girls to a different way of doing things.  I still applaud her for providing an experience the quality of which you can't find anywhere else in London.

The difference is punting hasn't got a regulatory system and has loads of total low lifes in my experiences over 35 years punting involved in it. Its still the wild west where a WG and/or her pimp can fuck punters over or worse and get away with it. Which is a reason UKP is so important in my opinion. Such scum would obviously try to smear punters day in day out if they could leave them negative FB after each booking everywhere as standard. WGs do have SAAFE and Ugly Mugs for well dodgy punters. In my case all a WG will know about me nowadays is my punting number easily changed and my description, I only do phone bookings so unless they work out who I am from a review they would have a job reviewing me, just as suits me.

In this case its for Em to exclude problem punters but what I have always found with parties is often the hoggers are the regulars whose business the pimp doesn't wish to lose. Em used to move them on to another WG in my observations in the Lancaster Gate days which is more than any other pimp did, 1 prick I saw at LMP and LAPC treated them as a 121 hogging the whole time.

[Beanhead]

See my most recent review of LSP. Same thing happening there with punters. Paying punters can choose how they use the service, but there is a new wave of punters who don't know, or care, for the rules/etiquette. Loads of hogging, pushing in and not respecting boundaries.

[LLPunting]

The difference is punting hasn't got a regulatory system and has loads of total low lifes in my experiences over 35 years punting involved in it. Its still the wild west where a WG and/or her pimp can fuck punters over or worse and get away with it. Which is a reason UKP is so important in my opinion. Such scum would obviously try to smear punters day in day out if they could leave them negative FB after each booking everywhere as standard. WGs do have SAAFE and Ugly Mugs for well dodgy punters. In my case all a WG will know about me nowadays is my punting number easily changed and my description, I only do phone bookings so unless they work out who I am from a review they would have a job reviewing me, just as suits me.

In this case its for Em to exclude problem punters but what I have always found with parties is often the hoggers are the regulars whose business the pimp doesn't wish to lose. Em used to move them on to another WG in my observations in the Lancaster Gate days which is more than any other pimp did, 1 prick I saw at LMP and LAPC treated them as a 121 hogging the whole time.

+1

UKP is self-policing but has no place for a formal appeals process or the drag of accommodating WG/Pimp interference in the community.

[jeezyuk]

I’ve wanted to go back for ages now but each time I read this stuff and I see an indie or I entertain myself differently.

I hope punters will learn better ettiquette. I’ve hogged on one or two occasions but I’ve always limited my hogging when I saw other punters lurking. If no one else is around then it’s fair game.

Since those days I became more conscious of others and I hope the newbies/regulars will be the same.

TPC used to be the gold standard in fun .. I just want it to get back to some semblance of the golden days. As punters we can do our part to contribute to that fun atmosphere too

[Hugeboobslover]

Thanks for the review OP. I haven’t been for a while as there were no girls with big boobs except Sarah. When Spanish busty pocket rocket Gina Snake was on the rooster I joined the parties regularly. Sabrina is good news. Looks like nice fake boobs. Correct? Anything u can add about size mate?

HBL

[Kingy28]

Thanks for the review OP. I haven’t been for a while as there were no girls with big boobs except Sarah. When Spanish busty pocket rocket Gina Snake was on the rooster I joined the parties regularly. Sabrina is good news. Looks like nice fake boobs. Correct? Anything u can add about size mate?

HBL

Your comments show exactly how different punters enjoy different things. I couldn't stand Gina Snake. I thought she looked awful & I'd avoid her. Not my type at all but I'm sure that plenty thought otherwise.
Thanks for the review.

[andy2_james]

Your comments show exactly how different punters enjoy different things. I couldn't stand Gina Snake. I thought she looked awful & I'd avoid her. Not my type at all but I'm sure that plenty thought otherwise.
Thanks for the review.

Spot on Kingy28 ... I attended a party a few years back and although there were prettier ladies there on the day, Gina Snake caused me to have the most memorable session I've ever had and I would love a repeat. Each to their own 

Thanks for the review OP

[Alackofambition5]

I was there on Saturday and this old timer had clearly put on that numbing gel and conveniently claimed he had back pain so he spent almost the entire time on his back. He must have been with one of the girls for at least 45 mins. The Russian girl whose name I can't remember was complaining about him to the Brazilian one.

[jeezyuk]

Spot on Kingy28 ... I attended a party a few years back and although there were prettier ladies there on the day, Gina Snake caused me to have the most memorable session I've ever had and I would love a repeat. Each to their own 

Thanks for the review OP

Gina instigated one of my best experiences.

At a low ratio party I was the last punter for the last 15 minutes.

She instigated Ivana, Luisa, Emily and another girl to blow me and fuck me and make out with me while forcing me to finger whoever wasn’t having some action

I’ve never had to entertain 5 girls at the same time before but Gina was filthy and sexy and omg I can wank over that stuff for ages 

Each to their own but she is such a fucking hoe and I love it

[jeezyuk]

Similarly with Barbara, I don’t like her but she gives great head.

I just close my eyes and let my load blow into that dom

[samtor]

Sabrina is good news. Looks like nice fake boobs. Correct? Anything u can add about size mate?

Sabrina was the babe whose mamms I had lowered into my salivating mouth in my OP.  I had maneuvered myself into that position because they were so delectable.  There's pretty good pictures on them on her profile - External Link/Members Only .  They did seem considerably bigger than even those pictures though.

[samtor]

Similarly with Barbara, I don’t like her but she gives great head.

It is disappointing to me that Barb doesn't seem to enjoy *herself* during the parties.  She does enjoy making sure that every one is having a great time.  She is very diligent about that.  What I love is that she looks like Julia Roberts' curvy younger sister and I have a thing for Julia Roberts.  She is some of the best doggie going as well with such a firm, perfectly round posterior.

[hamchang]

What the OP mentions is what sort of puts me off going to these parties. When its you and a few friends roasting some girls, having a right laugh at the same time, group sex and gang bangs are brilliant. But the thought of paying to be at a party and the only decent bird is being hogged by some bloke banging away for an hour would get my goat.

[jeezyuk]

It is disappointing to me that Barb doesn't seem to enjoy *herself* during the parties.  She does enjoy making sure that every one is having a great time.  She is very diligent about that.  What I love is that she looks like Julia Roberts' curvy younger sister and I have a thing for Julia Roberts.  She is some of the best doggie going as well with such a firm, perfectly round posterior.

The whole Julia Roberts thing put her in new light for me... now I actually wana see her again lol

She is a decent shag just not the prettiest

[jeezyuk]

What the OP mentions is what sort of puts me off going to these parties. When its you and a few friends roasting some girls, having a right laugh at the same time, group sex and gang bangs are brilliant. But the thought of paying to be at a party and the only decent bird is being hogged by some bloke banging away for an hour would get my goat.

Usually most of the girls are fit, you just might not have immediate access to the one you want at a point in time.

You could just ask to share a girl if people are hogging. Just being upfront and to the point will work

[samtor]

The whole Julia Roberts thing put her in new light for me... now I actually wana see her again lol

She is a decent shag just not the prettiest

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[jeezyuk]

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We should do her together some time hehe

[Eeyore]

I use to love these parties, I attended several but every time I went I was always a bundle of nerves initially until Em calmed me down, it always amused her.

Unfortunately this was several years ago as I put too much weight and lost some confidence.

I'm still very overweight but after losing twelve kilos Ive been thinking about rewarding myself with a trip down memory lane but obviously all the girls I knew have long since gone.

Does anyone have any recommendations please  ? Luisa, Cindy, Mia & Toni all look good in the photos.

I wish I had seen Peace there many years ago as she was vg on a 1 to 1 basis.

[samtor]

Does anyone have any recommendations please  ? Luisa, Cindy, Mia & Toni all look good in the photos.

I wish I had seen Peace there many years ago as she was vg on a 1 to 1 basis.

Recommendations for what?  Girls?  All the girls are great.  They all have different attributes both in their looks and personalities so your enthusiasm may vary.