Author Topic: Amber_belle - Lancaster Gate [Nightmare, but not her fault]  (Read 4568 times)


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O.k. so just come back from seeing Amber Belle near Lancaster gate,arrived on time,texted Amber bit no reply for around ten mins,so I waited outside until I got a response taking me the flat number,while waiting outside there was a very drunk blond women trying to get me to her room,managed to lose her and got entrance to Ambers flat,very presently surprised as Amber is a stunner with a amazing body,was offered a shower then sorted the paperwork,

So just getting into taking her clothes off and being amazed by her body,but then there was a loud bang on the front door,t was the blond women from outside thinking I lived there,so Amber said it's best if I go as the stupid women outside would cause trouble,couldn't believe it,I wish I never spoke to her,so I wanst going without getting something,so a quick round of oral with fk and cim,Amber did apologise and seemed genuinely sorry
 
I will try again at a later date,definitely worth a return visit

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Offline Londonpunter30

How much did you pay for this no service? If it wasn't free sounds like she conned the fuck out of you

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How is this a positive.
I'm confused
It's a nightmare positive?

Offline JamesRockford

OP I ready feel for you.

Have you considered the possibility that this was indeed a nightmare?  You woke up after a really confusing vivid dream that a blonde was chasing you. When you woke up, your  bedsheets were all wet. Then you went on to your computer and wrote a review.

Did any of the characters in your dream seem to be wearing a donkey's head?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 01:55:00 am by JamesRockford »

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Maybe the drunk woman works with her and was in on it to start with and it was a set-up? May explain while you were left out in the cold for several minutes.  If it was a well rehearsed con, it seemed to have worked.  :unknown:
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 02:11:35 am by Yondu616 »

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OP, can you please confirm whether or not you got your money back? It doesn't seem like it, but please do confirm. Like the others I feel you may have been conned...

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OP I ready feel for you.

Have you considered the possibility that this was indeed a nightmare?  You woke up after a really confusing vivid dream that a blonde was chasing you. When you woke up, your  bedsheets were all wet. Then you went on to your computer and wrote a review.

Did any of the characters in your dream seem to be wearing a donkey's head?

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I am going to change this rating to a neutral on the grounds that there is not enough evidence either from the experience of the punt or included in the description in the review for this to stand as a positive recommendation of this SP.  The OP is new and probably does not understand how the ratings work. External Link/Members Only

If the OP wants to object or your positive rating reinstated you can report this post to Admin. :hi:

Offline puntingpumping1920

I am going to change this rating to a neutral on the grounds that there is not enough evidence either from the experience of the punt or included in the description in the review for this to stand as a positive recommendation of this SP.  The OP is new and probably does not understand how the ratings work. External Link/Members Only

If the OP wants to object or your positive rating reinstated you can report this post to Admin. :hi:

"His review, his rating".

If OP never requested for his rating to be changed you shouldn't change it
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"His review, his rating".

If OP never requested for his rating to be changed you shouldn't change it

Yes I can read thank you.


Offline Londonpunter30

OP registered 3 years ago, should really have picked up some tips in that time.

If he gets conned out of money like this maybe punting isn't for him

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Yes I can read thank you.

You were told ages ago not to be so power crazy  :dash:

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You were told ages ago not to be so power crazy  :dash:

Looks like power lost now. 

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"His review, his rating".

If OP never requested for his rating to be changed you shouldn't change it
+1. Sorry but its his review his rating. He has qualified his review and any one reading this can arrive at their own conclusion as to the risks involved. Personnally I am grateful for any review from this member, especially being his first. I too would have given a neutral as things described. OP, if you are punting and you appear to be, you need to do more reviews mate as its what we are all about. :hi:

There is one question thats not been answered though which would change my mind and that is , was a refund on the cards at all. Did she offer to do the decent thing and return your money as it was her idea you leave.
There is a possibility this was an elborate set up, but thats something we cant evaluate. However should this happen again with this SP, we can say it was a scam and issue an avoid notice. :hi:


Offline Londonpunter30

Something is weird here.. first posts from the OP in three years, comes up with some con story, then despite logging in several times today, fails to answer any questions

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Something is weird here.. first posts from the OP in three years, comes up with some con story, then despite logging in several times today, fails to answer any questions
Was about to say. Hasn’t answered how long booking was for and how much he initially paid and if he got any money back. How did the drunk girl outside know which apartment he went into? Suppose she saw, did she carry on banging door while he was getting head, did he see her when he left. Isn’t he aware it might be a scam, if it wasn’t then wouldn’t the escort be thinking wtf and feeling rather suspicious thinking he was up to something

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Something is weird here.. first posts from the OP in three years, comes up with some con story, then despite logging in several times today, fails to answer any questions

It is dubious.  Note he gave a positive review but did not receive any services from the SP.

How can it make sense to let this review stand? :unknown:

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It is dubious.  Note he gave a positive review but did not receive any services from the SP.

How can it make sense to let this review stand? :unknown:
Well he didn't get a fuck for sure but he says "I wanst going without getting something,so a quick round of oral with fk and cim,Amber did apologise and seemed genuinely sorry". so he got as far as CIM............................................. :hi:

Offline Londonpunter30

For all we know he paid 150 or more for a 5 mins owo session.. only one step up from the outcall girls who run off with the cash

No answer to any questions despite the fact the OP has logged on several times

Doesn't add up to me

Offline NigelF

It is dubious.  Note he gave a positive review but did not receive any services from the SP.

How can it make sense to let this review stand? :unknown:

As MrMatrix has pointed out, he did get services and also finished by stating that he "will try again at a later date, definitely worth a return visit":
I wanst going without getting something,so a quick round of oral with fk and cim,Amber did apologise and seemed genuinely sorry
 
I will try again at a later date,definitely worth a return visit

That's perfectly acceptable justification for a positive. Regardless, it's still his review and he can rate it however he wants. There is no truly objective way of rating reviews, which is presumably why there are no rules regarding what rating one must choose. The guide to review writing you posted, is just that, a guide not a rulebook. It's also "unofficial" as it's just written by a few punters on here. It is definitely helpful though.

Besides, the rating isn't particularly important anyway, it's the contents/detail of the review. The fact that you're able to disagree with the rating means that at least there's some decent amount of detail in the review. If someone just looks at the headline rating and doesn't read the review, that's pretty much their own fault.

To be fair, in your defence, in reply #3 the OP did say:
probably more neutral than positive

I've tidied the above quote - he made that comment within his quote of goldfinch. That post suggests the OP thinks it should have been a neutral. It's not totally clear though and it's not obvious you even noticed that post either.

For all we know he paid 150 or more for a 5 mins owo session.. only one step up from the outcall girls who run off with the cash

No answer to any questions despite the fact the OP has logged on several times

Doesn't add up to me

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The OP should definitely post on here to clarify. It's good that's he started trying to contribute but in order to be much more helpful he needs to flesh out the details and answer the questions posed by others.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 11:05:02 pm by NigelF »

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OP, was this the blonde?
Still waiting to see if the OP will answer Johnny's question.  :unknown:

Offline S_holmes

I am going to change this rating to a neutral on the grounds that there is not enough evidence either from the experience of the punt or included in the description in the review for this to stand as a positive recommendation of this SP.  The OP is new and probably does not understand how the ratings work. External Link/Members Only

If the OP wants to object or your positive rating reinstated you can report this post to Admin. :hi:

The cheek of it...... :thumbsdown:

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OP was on line at 7 am this morning. His reluctance to clarify the issues raises more concern than the original post.

OP - can you clarify everyones concerns please. Me I'm prepared to give you the benifit of doubt but as time rolls on I'm thinking something may not be right here.

Offline tergil

Still waiting to see if the OP will answer Johnny's question.  :unknown:

I would like to get an answer to this question too.
I received unsolicited text from Amber and pointed me at the website for Annastasya 001sophie
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Here is Annastasya AW profile
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I would like to get an answer to this question too.
I received unsolicited text from Amber and pointed me at the website for Annastasya 001sophie
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Here is Annastasya AW profile
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She seems fairly active on UKE...
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Offline JamesRockford

Anastasia is £200/hr.

Poor innocent deluded young thing.

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Two things.

First.

Up until now it has not been clear to me that "Your review, your rating" was editorial policy.  The headline to the Punting Wiki Guide to Writing Reviews has this caution written right at the top.

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Based on experience over the past few days I take it that "your review, your rating" is editorial policy and will now only change ratings with the agreement of the writer.

Second.

Besides, the rating isn't particularly important anyway, it's the contents/detail of the review. The fact that you're able to disagree with the rating means that at least there's some decent amount of detail in the review. If someone just looks at the headline rating and doesn't read the review, that's pretty much their own fault.

I utterly disagree.  The overall rating is very important, the most important part of the review because it is recorded in the aggregate.  I wrote this a couple of weeks ago to another fucker on the board looking for recommendations in the London market.

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I have disagreed with James999 before on exactly this point.  Quite frankly, that someone who assumes to speak with what sounds like editorial authority…

You were told ages ago not to be so power crazy  :dash:

…cannot see any value in the aggregate says all I need to know about the value of his opinion.

NigelF when I write a positive review I am recommending that SP to other punters, not something I do flippantly.  Personally my mindset is would I recommend this SP to a mate if they asked me about visiting her.  I appreciate a similar level of diligence in the recommendations of others here.  If you really don’t think the rating is that important then we will have to agree to disagree and I will weigh your reviews accordingly.

And James, I don’t think any of that is power crazy: I think it is acting in the best interest of punters.
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Two things.

First.

Up until now it has not been clear to me that "Your review, your rating" was editorial policy.  The headline to the Punting Wiki Guide to Writing Reviews has this caution written right at the top.

Based on experience over the past few days I take it that "your review, your rating" is editorial policy and will now only change ratings with the agreement of the writer.

Fair enough, you didn't know, now you do. To be fair to you, I don't think it's written anywhere easily accessibly/obvious however I'm sure admin has stated his opinion on review ratings in the past (hence why I was confident the policy was "your review, your rating").

I can also understand how you got confused given that you thought the review rating guide was solely opinion. However just because the whole essay isn't policy doesn't mean it doesn't include things that are actually policy. I'm sure you can also understand how it would've been your difficult to predict your issue (especially since no else seems to have had a problem). However, clearly the guide could do with clarification that when it says "The overall rule is “your review, your rating.”" - that actually isn't just an opinion like the rest of the guide, it is actually an official rule.

I utterly disagree.  The overall rating is very important, the most important part of the review because it is recorded in the aggregate.  I wrote this a couple of weeks ago to another fucker on the board looking for recommendations in the London market.

If you want to view it as the most important part of the review that's fine but it's still useless in isolation. There are MANY important aspects to a review, hence people need to read the bloody review - it's that simple. If they don't read it then they only have themselves to blame.

I totally understand that when a girl has many reviews, people aren't going to read all the reviews and perhaps what should be a "noteworthy review" can easily get lost in the girl's list of reviews/go unread. If that were to happen a few times then it would distort the overall aggregate and give a misleading impression. However the fact remains, if you're just going off "impressions"/headline numbers and not reading the reviews or at least the most recent ones (plus all the negatives and neutrals) then it's still your own fault.

What you're arguing for is basically never ending debates on what a review should be rated. Regardless of whatever rules, policies or guidelines that are made it's always going to be subjective and up for debate. By leaving the rating totally up to reviewer, it eliminates those issues. One can still have a debate about the rating if you want - people are free to comment. If you really want to help then you should try to educate the OP by explaining the importance of ratings and how you think they should be done. I personally am not arsed and just stick to giving my opinion on what people should include.

Perhaps taking your argument to the very extreme, one could make a case for deliberately rating reviews more harshly than you'd normally choose (e.g. as a neutral or negative) just in order to ensure people are more likely to read it in full. I know that's not what you're saying but I think what you've said could be used to justify that.

Anyway, I personally have only ever had issues with potentially "misleading" review aggregates a couple of times in the fairly distant past (basically extremely rarely) and each time I rightly blamed myself for being lazy and now I've learnt my lesson. I still don't always read all reviews (when the girl has a lot, especially old ones) but I make sure to read plenty. Now, even if I have a bad punt, reading more reviews wouldn't have "saved" me - and I have checked that's the case. 

NigelF when I write a positive review I am recommending that SP to other punters, not something I do flippantly.  Personally my mindset is would I recommend this SP to a mate if they asked me about visiting her.  I appreciate a similar level of diligence in the recommendations of others here.  If you really don’t think the rating is that important then we will have to agree to disagree and I will weigh your reviews accordingly.

I don't particularly view my positives as "recommendations". I usually make it clear why I rate my reviews how I have in the review. Often my expectations play a big part in my rating. Things like price don't because I like to leave it up to the reader. However, if a punter only wants the services I describe in my review and is happy with both her photos and my description of her appearance (plus my commentary on how accurate her photos are) as well as her price and location, then in probably 95% of cases my positives can be taken as recommendations but only within those fairly narrow parameters.

The reason I said that is to illustrate just a small slice of the myriad views and opinions people have on ratings (even though our opinions probably aren't too different). It's just not something worth debating endlessly.

I do put quite a lot of thought into my ratings but there are a good number of occasions where it simply doesn't/can't convey what I want it to. People must read my review to get all the relevant information.

Anyway, please do have a look at my reviews and feel absolutely free to comment on my ratings or indeed any part of the reviews. I would be interested to hear your opinions (as I am with others too). Also feel free to be as blunt as you want (but do also try to explain yourself too).

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The cheek of it...... :thumbsdown:
He, like everyone else now does, saw something dodgy. Granted maybe the op isn’t all there and got taken advantage of, or maybe something else, but MHP was right in his thinking. But Yes of course changing peoples reviews without their permission regardless of the reason should never be allowed as allowing it even for the right reasons would set a dangerous precedent as others might start doing it for malicious or personal reasons.

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Perhaps taking your argument to the very extreme, one could make a case for deliberately rating reviews more harshly than you'd normally choose (e.g. as a neutral or negative) just in order to ensure people are more likely to read it in full. I know that's not what you're saying but I think what you've said could be used to justify that.

Anyway, I personally have only ever had issues with potentially "misleading" review aggregates a couple of times in the fairly distant past (basically extremely rarely) and each time I rightly blamed myself for being lazy and now I've learnt my lesson. I still don't always read all reviews (when the girl has a lot, especially old ones) but I make sure to read plenty. Now, even if I have a bad punt, reading more reviews wouldn't have "saved" me - and I have checked that's the case. 
 

Nigel,  thank you for your thoughtful and thought provoking response.  My opinion is that most fuckers should set a higher benchmark for awarding a positive reviews – along the lines of, ‘Only give a positive if you would unreservedly recommend her to a mate.’  It makes no sense to me to offer a positive rating where the photos are grossly misleading or of someone else, where advertised and confirmed “enjoys” are routinely withheld (covered SP’s who advertise OWO at discretion and only deny it in the room) or where service is poor (gross short timing).  I want those issues to show up in the aggregate in the form of a neutral or negative rating, not to be glossed over with a misleading positive.  How the fuck does an SP get 20 positive reviews where her profile pictures are blatantly and obviously not her?  How the fuck is that in the best interest of punters?

But Yes of course changing peoples reviews without their permission regardless of the reason should never be allowed as allowing it even for the right reasons would set a dangerous precedent as others might start doing it for malicious or personal reasons.

Acknowledged and I have learned.   :hi:

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Nigel,  thank you for your thoughtful and thought provoking response.  My opinion is that most fuckers should set a higher benchmark for awarding a positive reviews – along the lines of, ‘Only give a positive if you would unreservedly recommend her to a mate.’  It makes no sense to me to offer a positive rating where the photos are grossly misleading or of someone else, where advertised and confirmed “enjoys” are routinely withheld (covered SP’s who advertise OWO at discretion and only deny it in the room) or where service is poor (gross short timing).  I want those issues to show up in the aggregate in the form of a neutral or negative rating, not to be glossed over with a misleading positive.  How the fuck does an SP get 20 positive reviews where her profile pictures are blatantly and obviously not her?  How the fuck is that in the best interest of punters?

Acknowledged and I have learned.   :hi:

Yes, I do agree with that and I too find it annoying when a girl has loads of positives but you have to read them many of them to actually realise she's not as good as the review aggregate suggests. If she just had more neutrals or negatives then it would be a good time saver as well as being more "accurate" IMO. Of course, the accuracy part is definitely subjective.

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Her profile has a classic line that I Love.

"Q. Do you do bookings early morning?   
A. to be honest if is very early is much better to do a booking a day before"

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OP still hasn’t replied to any questions?

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OP still hasn’t replied to any questions?

No, and he never will.

Sounds like a drama queen fantasist.  So apparently in his fantasy, some crazy blonde psycho is banging on the door begging for OP to fuck her, OP wants to get the hell out of there, doesn't bother to ask Amber Belle for a refund, just strips off, grabs a quick DFK, and CIM, and after the punt he says that he'll definitely return.


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Admin has ruled its neutral- thats good enough for all of us. End of matter.

The other concern is that despite the OP lurking for 3 years , have we scared him off from making any other reviews. The fact he's gone dark suggests that we may have. Will we ever see him again?

Regulars , like me , have been criticised for being too agressive with newbie posters and we put them off from making further contributions. I would be sorry if this is the case, but I would ask could we have dealt with this in a better way rather than put the OP under a spot light. I'm not convinced we could have done much more different. What is the concensus on this. I know it should be  thread in its own right, but this is relevant to this thread? :unknown:

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We gave the OP plenty of chances to respond, he has been questioned but not attacked , which I think is fair.


Offline Sonny Crockett

O.k. so just come back from seeing Amber Belle near Lancaster gate,arrived on time,texted Amber bit no reply for around ten mins,so I waited outside until I got a response taking me the flat number,while waiting outside there was a very drunk blond women trying to get me to her room,managed to lose her and got entrance to Ambers flat,very presently surprised as Amber is a stunner with a amazing body,was offered a shower then sorted the paperwork,

So just getting into taking her clothes off and being amazed by her body,but then there was a loud bang on the front door,t was the blond women from outside thinking I lived there,so Amber said it's best if I go as the stupid women outside would cause trouble,couldn't believe it,I wish I never spoke to her,so I wanst going without getting something,so a quick round of oral with fk and cim,Amber did apologise and seemed genuinely sorry
 
I will try again at a later date,definitely worth a return visit

07599174998

That is a straightforward negative.

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Admin has ruled its neutral- thats good enough for all of us. End of matter.

The other concern is that despite the OP lurking for 3 years , have we scared him off from making any other reviews. The fact he's gone dark suggests that we may have. Will we ever see him again?

Regulars , like me , have been criticised for being too agressive with newbie posters and we put them off from making further contributions. I would be sorry if this is the case, but I would ask could we have dealt with this in a better way rather than put the OP under a spot light. I'm not convinced we could have done much more different. What is the concensus on this. I know it should be  thread in its own right, but this is relevant to this thread? :unknown:
Not certain but I think Admin changed it to neutral on a technicality due to a deleted message or post that the op put.

No one has attacked him so there is no being scared off or being the bigger man. He was asked perfectly reasonable questions that any legit or even dodgy person would answer.
My only explanations, in light of a lack of response, 1) if the review is legit then op is very naive maybe not all there  or 2) it’s a positive written to still discredit a wg.

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Not certain but I think Admin changed it to neutral on a technicality due to a deleted message or post that the op put.

No one has attacked him so there is no being scared off or being the bigger man. He was asked perfectly reasonable questions that any legit or even dodgy person would answer.
My only explanations, in light of a lack of response, 1) if the review is legit then op is very naive maybe not all there  or 2) it’s a positive written to still discredit a wg.
Well I too felt we were reasonable and yes he's had plenty of chance to respond. I'm disappointed he hasnt replied. O well................. :hi:

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Someone is telling PORKIES...

I have seen her ages ago before I joined and actually forgot.

She works out of an apartment in a block of at least 50 flats
You have to get a lift to her floor.

Unless the drunk blonde followed him through the electronic entry door and got into the lift with him she would have no idea what flat he went into.

Its BOLLOCKS

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Admin has ruled its neutral- thats good enough for all of us. End of matter.

The other concern is that despite the OP lurking for 3 years , have we scared him off from making any other reviews. The fact he's gone dark suggests that we may have. Will we ever see him again?

Regulars , like me , have been criticised for being too agressive with newbie posters and we put them off from making further contributions. I would be sorry if this is the case, but I would ask could we have dealt with this in a better way rather than put the OP under a spot light. I'm not convinced we could have done much more different. What is the concensus on this. I know it should be  thread in its own right, but this is relevant to this thread? :unknown:

I notice there is currently a pop up for aspiring new board members indicating that UKP is not accepting new accounts at the moment.

2 +2 = ? If I were a lurker or hadn't published reviews I be taking this as a prompt to get on board and pump those numbers up.

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Offline JamesRockford

Someone is telling PORKIES...
Its BOLLOCKS

+1

Not sure why some of our more generous members are obsessing about the OPs feelings. He or she is just another timewaster.