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vorian

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Haven't got time to read the shit they spout on there  :thumbsdown:

Fair enough,  I can read, very, very fast :D

Kendra

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To be fair Finn we only spout shit when a so called punter shows himself to be a complete bellend same as you guys on here have a good old rant about escorts that are completely idiotic, a scam artist, rip off merchant, liar, thief,  bait and switch, fake and whatever else.

I think it's human nature to want to rant to someone like minded when you've been pissed about by someone regardless of who you are, this is where I think I have been misunderstood by many. I am not a bad girl at all, I just don't put up with crap and I have a very low tolerance for idiots and I think that's fair considering all clients are complete strangers at first so to feel comfortable enough to invite them into my house to engage in those sort of service's, I need to feel 100% at ease.

Xx

Offline finn5555

To be fair Finn we only spout shit when a so called punter shows himself to be a complete bellend same as you guys on here have a good old rant about escorts that are completely idiotic, a scam artist, rip off merchant, liar, thief,  bait and switch, fake and whatever else.

I think it's human nature to want to rant to someone like minded when you've been pissed about by someone regardless of who you are, this is where I think I have been misunderstood by many. I am not a bad girl at all, I just don't put up with crap and I have a very low tolerance for idiots and I think that's fair considering all clients are complete strangers at first so to feel comfortable enough to invite them into my house to engage in those sort of service's, I need to feel 100% at ease.

Xx
R
You may have a point but when I last looked on there the regular posters just appeared to hate men  :diablo:

Not best practice when you sell your arse for a living  :hi:

Kendra

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But that's like me saying that all punters on here hate/resent woman/escorts!

Not the case, I am sure you have respect for good service providers same as we have respect for good clients.

I see what you mean about selling your arse for a living then complaining about clients but hand on heart, I never complain about my actual clients. All my complaining goes towards the bad ones that I have no intention ever to entertain. Then there's the ones who I do meet but have done something in person for me to never want to meet them again. Sometimes you just gotta get it off your chest.

I can't speak for all escorts on SAAFE, can only speak for myself and my comments are fair to say IMO. Why should I have respect for someone who hasn't got respect for me?

And the thread about how not to book an escort world championships is just comical with some of the numpty's that contact us, that's just banter really.

Xx
« Last Edit: January 21, 2014, 01:25:45 am by Kendra »

Offline finn5555

I don't think you will find many punters on here actually hating women (I haven't that's for sure)
The main issue with SAAFE, is some of the pro$$ies on there are washed up and resent the younger ones coming through and eating into their potential income.

Competition is tough out there so you need a USP  :hi:

dilettante

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To get back to the OP - seriously horny girl, just wish I visited London more often at those prices!  I seem to have a lot of entries in my putative "London" hotlist in the Wembley area.

Kendra

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I don't really think there are many women haters on here either but looking at some of the ranting that goes on, it could be questionable at times HOWEVER the point I'm making is that escort/punter man/woman, we're all human and complain like fuck naturally when someone has spoken to us or treated is badly! Ya know  :thumbsup:

I haven't really seen any older escorts being resentful towards us but then everyone's been really nice to me so I wouldn't notice anyway.

Competition is healthy, I couldn't give a shit what other escorts are up to. I'm only interested in what I am doing, I can't compete with many escorts anyway with my limited services.

Xx

Offline Daffodil

I can't speak for all escorts on SAAFE, can only speak for myself and my comments are fair to say IMO. Why should I have respect for someone who hasn't got respect for me?

It depends what you mean by respect. I will treat a prossie with respect, but I don't respect them. I guess that's what you mean, because you wouldn't know I don't respect your 'career' path when meeting me.

JB1969

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R
You may have a point but when I last looked on there the regular posters just appeared to hate men  :diablo:

Not best practice when you sell your arse for a living  :hi:

I have to agree and it seems the one with the most complaints about punters was Kendra, reading her posts on there actually put me off her plus the mattress on the floor.

They just seem like really angry women, worse than mumsnet lol

Offline finn5555

I have to agree and it seems the one with the most complaints about punters was Kendra, reading her posts on there actually put me off her plus the mattress on the floor.

They just seem like really angry women, worse than mumsnet lol

Don't read it as can't be arsed ..... I don't even know Kendra's AW proflie  :hi:

TheDoctor

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Back to the discussion on loulou001. There is some obfuscation on her geography. She says she is 'City of London' - WRONG, and that her location is Harrow, Wembley, Stratford. Well that's quite a broad church and covers a lot of territory. Her interview says her nearest station is Headstone Lane which is miles out of town.

So I live central-ish, west-ish London, in a very easy to get to area. However, from her nearest station (excluding any time it would take her to walk there) to my flat would be 70 minutes according to the tfl website. Therefore I would have to pay £100 for the outcall and £50+ for travel. All to see a size 14 (at least) beached whale. Why on earth would I?  :crazy: :wacko:

When I see an outcall with 'City of London' on the profile I expect to pay ZERO travel costs since I am so central.

Then there's the issue of the £100 outcall fee. It is impossible to actually see her for an outcall for that price because she will always add travel time costs.

Her profile is dishonest and I for one will be avoiding.

loulou001

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Hey everyone, I just wanted to say a few things.

The reason why I put a few locations down was to show that these were the locations I would travel to. I realize that's confusing and I apologize, I will be changing that to just my actual location.

I want to say this right here right now;

Yes, I have been a shitty prossie and I HAVE been unreliable. I want to say sorry to those I let down and I am sorry to have probably lost potential business due to my actions. I have read everything everyone has had to say here and I am ashamed of myself. Yes I have had problems. Believe it or not I had absolutely no idea that SAAFE was linked almost directly to a punting site or I would not have exposed my private life to a wider audience in such a way, if anything that's one of the things that have shocked me the most and it made me realize how much more naiive I had been.

It was having to pay the ex back that spurred me on to actually be a better prostitute and make money rather than just use it for a 'pair of new shoes' or something stupid like that. I was able to keep to appointments and everything became a lot better and I felt better about my job and It became more of a career. I paid him back and I have my own life on track and like with anything with life I WILL get better and I will be trying to get better as I know what I offer has been praised by some on here and I do get my regulars who are very happy to see me.

I want to thank everyone for their honesty and criticism. As they say, smooth seas didn't make a good sailor.

All I can do is be better if I want to continue to do what I do and the only way I will do that is with honesty and people telling me the truth. Anyone who has tried to book me or want to book me and sees a fault just tell me next time! I hope there won't be anything anymore but I am still more than happy to take criticism as it can only make me better and that's what I want to do is to be better. I can take it, I am a tough cookie :)

P.s.

My prices are a lot less confusing and everything is strictly inclusive in London with my out-calls as travel is include within the price. Trust me when I say I realize how ridiculous it was! I am sorry once again and hope to make a better impression in the coming months.

Sailormack

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Loulou

As usual, time will be the adjudicator on whether you are a listener-and-learner or a know-it-all.

 :hi:

Offline Daffodil

Hmm whilst it's commendable to try and change for the better, that thread on saafe is only a month old. Have you really changed in that time, or is this just a tout?

Will be interesting to see.

loulou001

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I think it will take time to recover from this as it is on a public punting site and I have been publicly shamed and rightfully so. I just wanted to let people know I have taken things on board and I will try and do better more than anything and to apologize as its the right thing to do. You guys are paying for a service its your money regardless of what the service is and its not fair to have felt it was not spent wisely. I don't know how to convey that without sounding like touting but I don't think I can. I really hope to turn things around as I know I am capable of it. I think that's all I have to really say for now and I hope in time the actions speak louder than words!

vorian

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I think it will take time to recover from this as it is on a public punting site and I have been publicly shamed and rightfully so. I just wanted to let people know I have taken things on board and I will try and do better more than anything and to apologize as its the right thing to do. You guys are paying for a service its your money regardless of what the service is and its not fair to have felt it was not spent wisely. I don't know how to convey that without sounding like touting but I don't think I can. I really hope to turn things around as I know I am capable of it. I think that's all I have to really say for now and I hope in time the actions speak louder than words!

I respect you coming on here and in face of criticism, apologising and stating your position. As you said at this point I personally believe that it would be best for you to disengage as you may be tempted to reply and be drawn into a debate (This after all is a site for punters) and avoid the potential touting accusation. Hopefully your service will improve and be a good one in the future. I wish you the best. 

Sailormack

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I respect you coming on here and in face of criticism, apologising and stating your position. As you said at this point I personally believe that it would be best for you to disengage as you may be tempted to reply and be drawn into a debate (This after all is a site for punters) and avoid the potential touting accusation. Hopefully your service will improve and be a good one in the future. I wish you the best.

It is more indicative of the power of UKP and its effect on your business. :unknown:

vorian

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It is more indicative of the power of UKP and its effect on your business. :unknown:

It does seem that the power of a good or bad UKP review is something that can affect a prossies business positively and negatively. The good or at least the WG's that want to get better, seem to be recognising this fact, which can only be good for all punters in the long term.


loulou001

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I left on my own as someone I knew found out I was on there and was following everything I was writing. I just use it as a reference now.

Sailormack

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I left on my own as someone I knew found out I was on there and was following everything I was writing. I just use it as a reference now.

Loulou

To simplify things, you have 2 options....

1. Take advice from your competition.

2. Take guidance from your potential customer.

Note, each will have a distinct impact on your success, one positive and the other negative.

Your job is simple.

Work out which is which.  :hi:

James999

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I left on my own as someone I knew found out I was on there and was following everything I was writing.

Who and why should it matter? After all you still have your AW profile and surely that's far more sensitive than anonymous posts on a website ?

Online Strawberry

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Who and why should it matter? After all you still have your AW profile and surely that's far more sensitive than anonymous posts on a website ?

Was that punter, client, competition or someone from your personal life?

I find a mixture of advice works best, sifted through a sieve of common sense.

Sailormack

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Was that punter, client, competition or someone from your personal life?

I find a mixture of advice works best, sifted through a sieve of common sense.

Just when things are about to get interesting and the fucking popcorn machine is empty  :unknown:

 :lol:

loulou001

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It was someone from my personal life. They already knew what I was doing but also found out I was posting on SAAFE too and kept sending messages to me via email and text and calling up. I had changed all my info and they don't bother at all now. Just trying to put everything bad behind me and start fresh so to speak!

James999

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It was someone from my personal life. They already knew what I was doing but also found out I was posting on sad too and kept sending messages to me via email and text and calling up. I had changed all my info and they don't bother at all now. Just trying to put everything bad behind me and start fresh so to speak!

No offence and all that but I think you should go back to safe  :hi:

Hellraiser

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It was someone from my personal life. They already knew what I was doing but also found out I was posting on SAAFE too and kept sending messages to me via email and text and calling up. I had changed all my info and they don't bother at all now. Just trying to put everything bad behind me and start fresh so to speak!

But now you are on UKPunting, which is an even bigger forum then SAAFE ever will be and he is far more likely to find and harrass you on here.

How do you intend to start afresh when he already knows your Adultwork profile? That exposes you even more.

Offline mattylondon

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What a useless idiot WG.

She really ought to listen to some of the advice she's receiving from other women on there.

What's the relevance of a Service Provider's 'overheads' to a customer? Who gives a rat's arse. I don't care. What matters to me is the headline price. No bullshitting. No secret and crafty little extras. Just put your full fucking rate up there.

Publishing your 'price', when you only do outcalls as £100, then throw in extra's, isn't really £100 is it? And she wants to know why she's failing. It seems to me like an attitude adjustment and reality check are required. And probably a diet. 

Offline mattylondon

Who and why should it matter? After all you still have your AW profile and surely that's far more sensitive than anonymous posts on a website ?
No doubt her stalking ex/pimp, of course.  :hi:

It's very easy to come on here and say all that. I've personally heard all that stuff before, so forgive me for being a little sceptical. Whether she changes her previous ways or not, only time will tell but personally I doubt it.

I'll say one thing, the woman has guts to come on here and fezz up in that way. I wonder who 'tipped her off'? We shall see re her service.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 08:32:04 pm by mattylondon »

Offline finn5555

The advice on SAAFE is a load of bollocks 90% of the time and comes from dried up pro$$ies with dusty phones  :cry:

Offline mattylondon

The advice on SAAFE is a load of bollocks 90% of the time and comes from dried up pro$$ies with dusty phones  :cry:
There's an inherent contradiction in Service Providers providing advice to their 'competition', on how to become better Service Providers, I'll grant you that!  :D

If it's advice of a general nature, there's no problem with that as I think they should have a place to discuss the virtues of wet wipes, over bog paper and such like!  :sarcastic:

It depends on what your interpretation of SAAFE is. I think people try and compare it to UKP but I don't get the impression it's about that. If some of them want to bitch and vent about punters, so what. After all, many of us quite rightly do the same. A lot of stuff spoken about punters by some women on there is all bluster and grandstanding, as is the publishing of 'dangerous' punter's numbers. I'll bet you your bottom dollar, the average prossie will take that booking from such a so-called dangerous punter. I'm sure they know full well that other prossies lie about such things and won't pass up the opportunity, if it's negative stuff from one person about a so-called timewaster, etc.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 08:41:56 pm by mattylondon »

Riot Doll

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A lot of stuff spoken about punters by some women on there is all bluster and grandstanding, as is the publishing of 'dangerous' punter's numbers. I'll bet you your bottom dollar, the average prossie will take that booking from such a so-called dangerous punter. I'm sure they know full well that other prossies lie about such things and won't pass up the opportunity, if it's negative stuff from one person about a so-called timewaster, etc.

I "sort of" agree with the first part of your statement, i.e. things do get blown out of proportion and all the bitching and snide remarks about customers are just another way for us WG's to vent about things that more often than not we simply can't share with our real life friends/family etc.

However (and I'm referring to the bit that I'd highlighted), I like to think that no sane girl who reads the warning and has the displeasure of said person subsequently contacting her, would want to risk "finding out for herself". I agree that some posts in the "Warnings" section do come across a bit silly and pointless, some even blatantly out of spite, but personally I'd much rather avoid the man and miss out on the cash than have to worry... Of course, the man can always change his number, his name, use a different address, but I don't think many girls would ignore a warning and just think of the money.

Online Strawberry

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I make up my own mind but I'd say there are many on there who are punters to definitely avoid, their MO is recognisable and their behaviour backs up (I've been contacted by a few on the list) the warning. I'd rather have that time free for someone who doesn't ring alarm bells with or without their own warning, and either see someone genuine or spend the time doing something else.

Malicious ones tend not to add up.

Riot Doll

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Malicious ones tend not to add up.

Precisely. When you come across a "met this man in x place, avoid him girls, he's nasty" type of warning, it really doesn't strike you as genuine. I'm sure the woman would go into detail a bit more and generally sound more passionate about warning others if that was really the case!

Offline Robster199

Far and ugly. No thanks at any price. I pay for something nice

Offline mattylondon

I "sort of" agree with the first part of your statement, i.e. things do get blown out of proportion and all the bitching and snide remarks about customers are just another way for us WG's to vent about things that more often than not we simply can't share with our real life friends/family etc.

However (and I'm referring to the bit that I'd highlighted), I like to think that no sane girl who reads the warning and has the displeasure of said person subsequently contacting her, would want to risk "finding out for herself". I agree that some posts in the "Warnings" section do come across a bit silly and pointless, some even blatantly out of spite, but personally I'd much rather avoid the man and miss out on the cash than have to worry... Of course, the man can always change his number, his name, use a different address, but I don't think many girls would ignore a warning and just think of the a money.
It depends on the nature of the 'warning'  posted, doesn't it? Are we talking about genuine violence that can be corroborated by hard facts and followed up by reporting it to the police or are we talking about soft 'warnings' about supposed time wasters? On the latter, it's my contention that your average prossie either sees through that or simply doesn't care and will go after the money. I've booked plenty of prossies who've slagged ofF other prossies to me, in an attempt to put me off seeing them. I've even had that with two sisters who were doing it!   :D

So what is a time waster? To me, it is a person who has no intention of genuinely following through with a booking or providing a service, including in the case of a prossie, a bait and switch. A punter who gets cold feet and changes his mind before or even when he steps into her place, has every right to make that choice, as a customer. It might be frustrating for you, after you've taken time to get ready but you're a supplier of services and it goes with the territory, as far as I'm concerned. Posting a number up in such circumstances is pure childishness and I doubt your average prossie pays any attention to it. And it's totally pointless anyway, as a punter can change a mobile number at the drop of a hat and book somebody, even if a prossie was to post on a forum she didn't want service from that guy. Therefore, it's effect is minimal. 

We'd have to look at examples of supposedly 'violent' punters because I don't believe half of those tales. It's easy to tell when people are lying.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 10:42:43 pm by mattylondon »