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Author Topic: OWO, CIM and the married man!  (Read 8600 times)

Offline smiths

Yes absolutely and I wasn't suggesting that people aren't welcome to do so (sorry if that's how it came across).  My point was that the comments posted here shouldn't be used as a guide to the level of risk involved since people who have never contracted anything are more likely to comment about never having caught anything whereas those who have been unlucky are more likely to keep quiet.

Yes i totally agree with that. :drinks: ;)

Offline Ali Katt

I agree.

But what would you describe as a posh wank, Ali Katt?
A wank wearing a condom. No idea how it got its name.

Offline rogerc23

as a guy in a relationship some interesting responces here, ive had about 10 punts over the past 3 years and have in the main opted for OW, i have a punt booked in for friday and was toying with OWO but on reflection i think i will play it safe

Jawill's comments and experience chime with mine. And I do find it ironic that the vitriol expressed here towards barebackers does not extend to OWOers. Your chances of contracting anything may be very low with either unprotected sex or unprotected oral, but it's never totally out of the question.

Here's the thing that most people seem to be unaware of: a girl can have the gonorrhea bacteria in her throat for weeks without being aware of it. And it can be in her throat without moving up to her mouth, so a mouth swab might not pick it up. Gonnorhea stays local. She can have a blood test, urine test, vaginal swabs, and it won't show up.

Your dick goes in, and bingo. Now YOU have it. And as Jawill says, it's nasty. If it were just a couple of days of mild pain and little bit of pus, you might think that's OK. But it's worse than that. It hurts like hell when you pee, the gunk that comes out of the end of your knob is foul smelling, and your balls will swell up like Buster Gonads in Viz. One big hit of antibiotics will get rid of it, but it can take days to get better. Trust me. You do NOT want to get this.


Like other guys here, I had years of OWO with no problem. But once is enough. Don't much like OW, but there's one big plus: you've already got the condom on, so those moments of futzing around in between a BJ and sex while you try and get the fucker on and risk a wilter, are no more. Yeay!

Offline smiths

Jawill's comments and experience chime with mine. And I do find it ironic that the vitriol expressed here towards barebackers does not extend to OWOers. Your chances of contracting anything may be very low with either unprotected sex or unprotected oral, but it's never totally out of the question.

Here's the thing that most people seem to be unaware of: a girl can have the gonorrhea bacteria in her throat for weeks without being aware of it. And it can be in her throat without moving up to her mouth, so a mouth swab might not pick it up. Gonnorhea stays local. She can have a blood test, urine test, vaginal swabs, and it won't show up.

Your dick goes in, and bingo. Now YOU have it. And as Jawill says, it's nasty. If it were just a couple of days of mild pain and little bit of pus, you might think that's OK. But it's worse than that. It hurts like hell when you pee, the gunk that comes out of the end of your knob is foul smelling, and your balls will swell up like Buster Gonads in Viz. One big hit of antibiotics will get rid of it, but it can take days to get better. Trust me. You do NOT want to get this.


Like other guys here, I had years of OWO with no problem. But once is enough. Don't much like OW, but there's one big plus: you've already got the condom on, so those moments of futzing around in between a BJ and sex while you try and get the fucker on and risk a wilter, are no more. Yeay!

Good post that lays out the possible consequences of getting infected. I require OWO while punting or i might as well stay at home and have a wank so i choose that as the rewards are worth the risks to me, BB isnt worth the risk to me. :hi:

My first post. I used to be a regular at the well known Parsonage at Westerleigh, (until the place was raided and the woman running it arrested for kidnapping!) ,  lots of very nice ladies, premier service. But they never, ever offered OWO, for all the reasons mentioned above.  Same in my other haunts in Belgium and Germany. None of the independent escorts there that I saw offer it up front, and although I did it a couple of times in the UK, and didn't catch anything,  I won't do it now. I'll even take some flavoured condoms along with me so She will not have to put up with the plain flavour.  :P

Online darkvamp

Reading this thread has been a real eye opener for me. Left me feeling pretty unsure of OWO.

Offline wristjob

Posts like Jawill's remind me a bit of Kim and Aggie - swabbing someone's carpet and telling them there's botulism or something there. It might lurk in the back of someone's throat for months etc - and you might catch it - but how often does anyone? Some sources would have you believe it happens all the time and punters like Smiths with years and hundreds/thousands of girls under his belt, and then of the WGs who have been at the job for years suggest the actual risk of catching something - the real tangible risk are very slim.

On to the OPs point I think you need to tie in the risk with the consequences. I'm single so if I catch something then it's something that just affects me, it gets dealt with and then I move on. If I were married and wanted to stay married then the risk goes way past that and I wouldn't dare. I've never really punted in a relationship and likely never would but if I did it would be different to being single.

I think super gonorrea will become the AIDS of this generation. Condoms and awareness prevented HIV becoming the epidemic that was predicted. Gono seems to be on the increase and antibiotic resistant now and down the line (even now?) will be the one people fear the most.

Online darkvamp

Off topic sorry but this thread reminded me of this story

A friend of mine told a group of us that his dick was smelling funny (he always BB girls) so he went out and bought a large bottle of TCP poured it in the sink topped it up with water then proceeded to dunk his dick in the sink. He said it was cool and refreshing at first then about 10 seconds later it felt like it was on fire. Apparently he spent 10 minutes in the shower with cold water running over it before it stopped burning, the upside was apparently the smell went.


Offline DaveMugabe

Off topic sorry but this thread reminded me of this story

A friend of mine told a group of us that his dick was smelling funny (he always BB girls) so he went out and bought a large bottle of TCP poured it in the sink topped it up with water then proceeded to dunk his dick in the sink. He said it was cool and refreshing at first then about 10 seconds later it felt like it was on fire. Apparently he spent 10 minutes in the shower with cold water running over it before it stopped burning, the upside was apparently the smell went.
He probably still has Gono

Ask him to get checked out

Offline MissSparkle

I never engage in bb and have always tested negative down below. However, once, quite shockingly to me, I tested positive for oral gonorrhea. I immediately stopped work and came back when I tested negative again.

I thought to remove owo but thought that I will severely lessen my client base if I did but wrote on my profile that I would require certification for cim in hopes that more people will get themselves tested.

If everyone went and got tested, I think this could quickly be nipped in the bud but if gonorrhea becomes antibiotic resistant, I fear that owo will one day become as dangerous as bb! I hope this day will never come!


Offline DaveMugabe

I never engage in bb and have always tested negative down below. However, once, quite shockingly to me, I tested positive for oral gonorrhea. I immediately stopped work and came back when I tested negative again.

I thought to remove owo but thought that I will severely lessen my client base if I did but wrote on my profile that I would require certification for cim in hopes that more people will get themselves tested.

If everyone went and got tested, I think this could quickly be nipped in the bud but if gonorrhea becomes antibiotic resistant, I fear that owo will one day become as dangerous as bb! I hope this day will never come!
So making money is more important to you than risk of infection and infecting punters?  Who would have thought, not me going by your posts on another topic! :coolgirl:

Offline MissSparkle

So making money is more important to you than risk of infection and infecting punters?  Who would have thought, not me going by your posts on another topic! :coolgirl:

I seriously thought about putting an alert on the profile! If there wasn't such a stigma around the matter of stds, I would have done so that anyone who had been to see me would go and get tested.

I am an entertainer and it is my job to ensure a great time for the guys who come and see me. That way I can keep the money they give me with good conscience.

If I know a guy is a first time punter,  I explain to him that he needs to go and get tested regularly. However I assume that everyone else who comes and sees me knows the risks involved and has decided to go ahead anyway.

Offline Daffodil

Like King Nuts, I do find it somewhat hypocritical the vitriol often poured on bare-backers whereas oral without is accepted. Both carry risk of the exact same thing and both are actually fairly low-risk, albeit vaginal or anal bareback being higher risk.

Offline mrhappypants

A few of points to the OP.

I am married with kids and started punting in April last year.  I punt with the permission of my wife   Over the last five years we have had sex less than ten times.  After countless arguments, tears and frustration, one evening I told her, in a non accusatory way, that I loved her, I was happy with our marriage and our family, but I was finding it increasingly impossible to live without sex.  She agreed that it was not fair and did not live up to the agreement we made when we got married.  That conversation opened the way to a discussion about what would be agreeable for both of us, be in the best interest of our family and she consented to me paying for sex.  I reaffirmed my commitment to protect our family and sustain our marriage.  My wife and I now no longer have sex and this is relevant because it restricts the direct health risks associated with punting to me.

Before Christmas I had my first STI check and tested positive for Non Specific Urethritus.  Cream and a course of antibiotics sorted it out.  I plan to get retested every three months.  I have always hated using condoms which have been the blight of my entire sexual career since the age of 19.

I now ask specifically for OWO and CIM as a prerequisite of a punt. I had maybe 30 punts last year.  For me it is a compromise between sex that I find satisfying and not doing something too reckless with my health.   Punting is something I am not proud of, and that I do not discuss with anyone outside beyond my wife apart from on this forum or with the girls I meet, but I also think punting has probably save my marriage.

Dave

Curious6705

I think this topic has come up a number of times that I've seen, and each time, it seems to me the same points / views are made, sometimes by the same posters.

For me, if OWO is on offer I will usually go for it. And I get myself tested \ screened every few months, as a precaution. I'm also reasonably careful where I punt. I haven't chosen a WG off AW since summer 2012.

To be honest, I look for advice on this matter from the health professionals at the GUM clinic, not other posters, or websites.

As regards antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea - AIUI there are as yet no reported instances in the UK or Western Europe. Also, antibiotic resistant bacteria are a general problem that is not restricted to STIs. IMO, at this time, I'm more likely to be struck by lightning, or win the lottery than I am to contract an antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea, and I'm not going to start planning my life, or my punting, around any of these possible events.

Offline ik8133

A few of points to the OP.

I am married with kids and started punting in April last year.  I punt with the permission of my wife   Over the last five years we have had sex less than ten times.  After countless arguments, tears and frustration, one evening I told her, in a non accusatory way, that I loved her, I was happy with our marriage and our family, but I was finding it increasingly impossible to live without sex.  She agreed that it was not fair and did not live up to the agreement we made when we got married.  That conversation opened the way to a discussion about what would be agreeable for both of us, be in the best interest of our family and she consented to me paying for sex.  I reaffirmed my commitment to protect our family and sustain our marriage.  My wife and I now no longer have sex and this is relevant because it restricts the direct health risks associated with punting to me.

Before Christmas I had my first STI check and tested positive for Non Specific Urethritus.  Cream and a course of antibiotics sorted it out.  I plan to get retested every three months.  I have always hated using condoms which have been the blight of my entire sexual career since the age of 19.

I now ask specifically for OWO and CIM as a prerequisite of a punt. I had maybe 30 punts last year.  For me it is a compromise between sex that I find satisfying and not doing something too reckless with my health.   Punting is something I am not proud of, and that I do not discuss with anyone outside beyond my wife apart from on this forum or with the girls I meet, but I also think punting has probably save my marriage.

Dave

Thanks Dave for posting such an informative post.  Can I ask if you normally visit independent WGs or Parlours?  Did you have any symptoms with Non Specific Urethritis?

Offline ik8133


To be honest, I look for advice on this matter from the health professionals at the GUM clinic, not other posters, or websites.


Could you please share the advice the GUM clinic gave you?

Curious6705

Could you please share the advice the GUM clinic gave you?

I would suggest, rather, that you visit the GUM clinic, and receive advice from the professionals working there, in person.

Offline carlisle78

Did you have any symptoms with Non Specific Urethritis?


Usually redness at the tip I'd the knob and pain when pissing. I went on holiday last year and developed these symptoms. Had a worrying few days and uncomfortable flight home. Went to the GUM and got confirmed NSU - though the Doctor reckoned it was as a result of getting insect repellant on my knob (Deet) rather than via sexual contact. It had also cleared up pretty much and they didn't prescribe anything.
Banning reason: Trolling another member because he posted a negative about his favourite prossie. Also known as EdiTed on other sites.

Offline Hector

I used to date a WG (I had EAS - separate thread!!).  She used to get STD tested every few months.  This was for her own peace of mind and health.  Not for the punters which she did not really care about in the same way she felt they did not care about her.  In her busy times she would see a fair few guys in a day.  She did not offer BB but she did offer DFK, DT, OWO and CIM.  She preferred not to swallow but occasionally did as an occupational hazard.   You can catch STDs from these habits and you can pass them on.  Basically the WG is only ever as clean and disease free as the guys that she has seen between STD testing.  Is matters not if she is in a parlour, agency or fully independent.  It is a risk that us punters take.

Offline LL

I used to date a WG (I had EAS - separate thread!!).  She used to get STD tested every few months.  This was for her own peace of mind and health.  Not for the punters which she did not really care about in the same way she felt they did not care about her.  In her busy times she would see a fair few guys in a day.  She did not offer BB but she did offer DFK, DT, OWO and CIM.  She preferred not to swallow but occasionally did as an occupational hazard.   You can catch STDs from these habits and you can pass them on.  Basically the WG is only ever as clean and disease free as the guys that she has seen between STD testing.  Is matters not if she is in a parlour, agency or fully independent.  It is a risk that us punters take.
So which STIs do you think we can catch from DFK?

Offline Hector

So which STIs do you think we can catch from DFK?



My post potentially misleading -sorry.  Risk from DFK relatively low but you can catch Herpes.  Also depends if one or other has brushed teeth within 30 mins and has bleeding gums.  My ex was aware of risk and only mouthwashed between punters.  Hopefully most punters aware also.

Offline Toshiba

Im not married but in a relationship i dont want to be without

Ive read this thread a few times and ive now made my mind up about being covered up at all times.

If you are in a relationship you MUST realize there is a risk and be prepared for youre world to fall apart if the small perecentage of risk comes to greet you, many of us are attached and do this behind her back, so reduce the risk and cover up if you dont want her catching a disease because youve been shagging a whore behind he back

Consider this, is the infected whore worth ruining your marraige/ relationship? Cos thats the risk, sti's are the biggest risk in all of this

Sorry but its a fact all this who play away, just like me


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