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Offline waynekerr600

When I started, if I remember correctly it was £50 for 30mins and £90 for an hour., which was 10years ago. 

As with any luxury, If I cannot afford it I simply don't do it

Is that why you have zero reviews to your name from 10 years of punting?

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So why mention your troubles  :unknown:

Having to pay a vet bill isn't a trouble, but I used it as a reason as to why girls may start charging more, they've had an unexpected bill that they can't afford so think a rate rise will help them make the money for that bill quicker

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Having to pay a vet bill isn't a trouble, but I used it as a reason as to why girls may start charging more, they've had an unexpected bill that they can't afford so think a rate rise will help them make the money for that bill quicker

So a rate fall would be expected when the 'troubles' were over?

I think not.

It'll only help them make more money if some dumb shit pays it.

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Having to pay a vet bill isn't a trouble, but I used it as a reason as to why girls may start charging more, they've had an unexpected bill that they can't afford so think a rate rise will help them make the money for that bill quicker

As has been said, if I get a sudden huge bill will you give me a discount so the Bill isn't as big a problem :unknown:

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As has been said, if I get a sudden huge bill will you give me a discount so the Bill isn't as big a problem :unknown:


I never said I agreed with the logic, I'm merely playing devils advocate here. But you chose to punt, it's your hobby, it's a luxury that you choose to take part in. However if you had this sudden bill and you spoke to your creditors for them to work within fca guidelines they would have to work with you and allow you certain types of help to accommodate the unexpected expense.

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I never said I agreed with the logic, I'm merely playing devils advocate here. But you chose to punt, it's your hobby, it's a luxury that you choose to take part in. However if you had this sudden bill and you spoke to your creditors for them to work within fca guidelines they would have to work with you and allow you certain types of help to accommodate the unexpected expense.

So what you're saying is there's no reason a WG should raise her rates for unexpected bills since the same applies to them?

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I never said I agreed with the logic, I'm merely playing devils advocate here. But you chose to punt, it's your hobby, it's a luxury that you choose to take part in. However if you had this sudden bill and you spoke to your creditors for them to work within fca guidelines they would have to work with you and allow you certain types of help to accommodate the unexpected expense.

Then the girls in the same situation should consult there financial advisor, they may in fact say rather than increase your prices, less is more  :hi:

Offline waynekerr600

I think it's fair to say rate rise= greed.

Let's be honest it's probably a psychologically difficult job ( I wouldn't want to fuck me) but it is extremely well paid.

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When we punters stop paying the higher amount, the price will definitely be reversed to 50 or 60. It is ridiculous to charge  80/30min. That's kind of stealing or robbing. It is not fair on us. That's my opinion.

Offline roboeggman

WGs bellyache that punters want to pay less and get more but on the other side of that coin I'm sure most of these same moaners would like to do less and get paid more. Only thing is I've not seen punters try and justify it with bullshit.

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When we punters stop paying the higher amount, the price will definitely be reversed to 50 or 60. It is ridiculous to charge  80/30min. That's kind of stealing or robbing. It is not fair on us. That's my opinion.

I like your way of thinking but unfortunately it won't happen. There will be always those willing to pay and believe they will get special privileges due to towing the line with Sp's  :hi:

Offline roboeggman

When we punters stop paying the higher amount, the price will definitely be reversed to 50 or 60. It is ridiculous to charge  80/30min. That's kind of stealing or robbing. It is not fair on us. That's my opinion.

Yeah that's absolutely true, but are you going to convince every punter the same? There are many people with more money than sense; great for WGs, terrible for the prudent punter.

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So what you're saying is there's no reason a WG should raise her rates for unexpected bills since the same applies to them?

I've never said girl should increase her rate for that reason merely that it might be a factor.
Ultimately costs rise, no matter what it is. If a girl has increased costs she needs
To up her rate to cover those and justify working.

These rate rises are not advertised or requested as one offs, it's a permanent thing. It's not like they are saying  pay £70 this time cause I'm skint then &50 next and that averages out at £60. It's a ride they've decided they want to do and as has been said before if you don't like that rate, don't pay it, no one is forcing you to punt

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Offline waynekerr600

if you don't like that rate, don't pay it, no one is forcing you to punt

I won't but there are too many dumb shits that would which ultimately drives the whole cost up.

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Stop being a troll then.
I second that seen as tynetunnel doesn't wish to back up his claims of trolls all over this thread, even though he's online  :dash:

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My pennies worth..
Touring - I can understand if a girl puts rates up as she has big overheads and I myself have done it. However what I don’t agree with is a girl charging more via AW than agency. It makes sense to surely keep it the same? Then not having to pay the 30% commission that the agency charges?
I think we are very well paid in the first place and a punt now is a luxury to most. I don’t get many issues with undesirable clients or boundary pushers to be honest, and I cannot see my usual at home rates increasing beyond what they are now- and I offer a range of services/kinks/fetishes.

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My pennies worth..
Touring - I can understand if a girl puts rates up as she has big overheads and I myself have done it. However what I don’t agree with is a girl charging more via AW than agency. It makes sense to surely keep it the same? Then not having to pay the 30% commission that the agency charges?
I think we are very well paid in the first place and a punt now is a luxury to most. I don’t get many issues with undesirable clients or boundary pushers to be honest, and I cannot see my usual at home rates increasing beyond what they are now- and I offer a range of services/kinks/fetishes.

Fair do's for most of your post but don't think you needed to add the highlighted bit  :hi:

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It was just in reply to something that was said about girls offering different services so they charge more.. IMO it’s better to have a blanket price inclusive of all. That’s the point I was trying to make :) I don’t think I articulated it well though

Offline roboeggman

It was just in reply to something that was said about girls offering different services so they charge more.. IMO it’s better to have a blanket price inclusive of all. That’s the point I was trying to make :) I don’t think I articulated it well though

This exactly. To me if someone is charging extra for something that tells me they don't really want to do it in the first place, and that sort of false enthusiasm is something most punts could do without.

Offline toon972

I think that’s an absolutely fair response and insight Lydia. Others may not agree, almost certainly not, but it’s certainly right to consider both sides. As with all services and products, it’s all about supply and demand. The punters would generally prefer to pay as little as possible, while the WG’s would almost certainly like to earn more. It’s how economics works!

I’m a big believer in that you get what you pay for. And paying the right price to get it. It doesn’t always work, but in fairness it’s probably the girls with the lower prices who get visits from the unwashed of the North East.

It’s like supermarkets. I aspire to M&S and Waitrose. I don’t want to shop at Lidl and Aldi. Or Asda really unless I’m skint. Morrison’s and Sainsburys are alright though, and Tesco are just bastards!

I don't think it is right to consider both sides as this is a punters forum. I don't care what a girl has to pay or what problems she has. Just the same as she does not care about mine. If the prices go up for whatever reason then I do not pay.

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This exactly. To me if someone is charging extra for something that tells me they don't really want to do it in the first place, and that sort of false enthusiasm is something most punts could do without.

Totally agree, I've seen one girl advertising £50 for anal as she won't be able to work for a couple of days afterwards  :unknown: how can that make financial sense ? Just don't do it if you don't like it.
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It was just in reply to something that was said about girls offering different services so they charge more.. IMO it’s better to have a blanket price inclusive of all. That’s the point I was trying to make :) I don’t think I articulated it well though

Fair enough, clear now  :hi:

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Totally agree, I've seen one girl advertising £50 for anal as she won't be able to work for a couple of days afterwards  :unknown: how can that make financial sense ? Just don't do it if you don't like it.

That doesn't even make economic sense.

Agreed easier just to not offer the service.

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Totally agree, I've seen one girl advertising £50 for anal as she won't be able to work for a couple of days afterwards  :unknown: how can that make financial sense ? Just don't do it if you don't like it.

I wish it was that easy, sadly some people don't understand that services can change and expect it. Again, most normal people accept it's not being available others don't. So charging extra for it is an easier way of dealing with the idiots that don't understand no. It's a recent addition due to the amount of people saying 'it says you do on your profile' when I've told them I'm not game.

Just to be clear it says on my profile if I'm able to offer it then I will. It's the discomfort of the prep that goes into anal that causes the issues not the anal itself. If I'm not planning on working the day or two after the boOkibg then with notice anal isn't an issue.
I still do anal just on my terms. Again, if you don't want to deal with those terms no one is forcing you.
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I wish it was that easy, sadly some people don't understand that services can change and expect it. Again, most normal people accept it's not being available others don't. So charging extra for it is an easier way of dealing with the idiots that don't understand no. It's a recent addition due to the amount of people saying 'it says you do on your profile' when I've told them I'm not game.

Just to be clear it says on my profile if I'm able to offer it then I will. It's the discomfort of the prep that goes into anal that causes the issues not the anal itself. If I'm not planning on working the day or two after the boOkibg then with notice anal isn't an issue.

Its your body your choice, but looking at it from the outside I can't understand why you would do it at all given the prep causes you issues.  :hi:
One of my favourites Keeva used to love it but it became increasingly problematic for her (well documented ) when I turned up and she wasn't up for it, not a problem, she made it clear on her profile there was no guarantee. Eventually she had to stop, but don't think it affects her business  :unknown:
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Its your body your choice, but looking at it from the outside I can't understand why you would do it at all given the prep causes you issues.  :hi:

If I didn't enjoy it, then I wouldn't bother either. But I'm rather partial to a spot of buggery so while I enjoy it I'll still engage, just not as often as I used too.

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It is getting to the point that we punters should concentrate , watch porn, wank off and save our hard earned money for something or holiday. It ridiculous paying 70,80/30min. We work hard to earn this money. Girls should put that under consideration too. For me  I suggest £50/30min . Let work it out this way below;
£50 x 4 clients a day =£200 x 5days=£1000 x 4weeks= £4000 x12 months=£48,000 without tax.
Who got paid £48,000 a year ? Are you mate?
I got paid only £20,000 before tax.
Girls are greedy.
I hope, am not breaking the forum terms and conditions?

« Last Edit: August 04, 2018, 08:49:13 am by cj2 »

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It is getting to the point that we punters should concentrate , watch porn, wank off and save our hard earned money for something or holiday. It ridiculous paying 70,80/30min. We work hard to earn this money. Girls should put that under consideration too. For me  I suggest £50/30min .let work it out this way below;
£50 x 4 clients a day =£200 x 5days=£1000 x 4 weeks= £4000 x12 months=£48,000.
Who got paid £48,000 a year ? Are you mate?
I got paid only £20,000.
Girls are greedy.
I hope,am not breaking the forum terms and conditions?

Been on the cans early mate?

Offline Tiger63

I simply dont pay over £60/30 mins or £120 /60 mins.
If a girl  I want to see charges over that then I move on.
There are a few I would love to see but out of my price range.

An hours massage with HE is about £50....not the same I know but i find myself going for that more often these days

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Offline waynekerr600

I simply dont pay over £60/30 mins or £120 /60 mins.
If a girl  I want to see charges over that then I move on.
There are a few I would love to see but out of my price range.

I'm exactly the same.

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It is getting to the point that we punters should concentrate , watch porn, wank off and save our hard earned money for something or holiday. It ridiculous paying 70,80/30min. We work hard to earn this money. Girls should put that under consideration too. For me  I suggest £50/30min . Lets work it out this way below;
£50 x 4 clients a day =£200 x 5days=£1000 x 4weeks= £4000 x12 months=£48,000 without tax.
Who got paid £48,000 a year ? Are you mate?
I got paid only £20,000 before tax.
Girls are greedy.
I hope, am not breaking the forum terms and conditions?

Here we go again, another one trying to dictate what others should do.   :dash:  If you can't afford holidays etc or have to save up for punts, doesn't mean the same applies to me, or many others on here.

Prossies will charge what they can get away with, why don't you start your own agency and guarantee the girls £48000 per annum. Realistically you have no idea how many punters any escort can or wants to attract per day or week or what their earnings might or could be.

Try to speak for yourself in future. 

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I have a self imposed limit on what I'm prepared to spent on punting and that has no relevance to what I can afford.
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I have not been punting that long so my view is based on a very short time scale.

Its nice to see a wg interact with the forum, probably could do with more of that. Although I have to agree with a few members in that what goes on in our lives is irrelevant.

The wg point about the price increases are maybe to get rid of the bad punters, that door swings both ways. As a wg you can say you have seen it all but us punters have seen it too. You may have seen scabby cocks and been in difficult situations, punters have seen some horrific wg and every punt has the same danger element as most of us are normal blokes walking into unknown situations. Raising prices may work and get you a better type of client but you have to remember that a £80 half a hour punt is 2-3 days work for some punters who are your bread a butter. You also have to take into account that punters budget to get the most out of the punts, some guys can only afford a hj and some a hour. By putting the prices up and up you will get less business, me personally if the prices continue to go up will go from 2-3 a month to 1. I have stopped massages due to some rates im getting quoted are more expensive than a wg rates. Those words may just be water off a ducks back to wg who read this, but ultimately that cash stays in my pocket now.

Like every punter or consumer or client, we all want the best value to our hard earned money.

« Last Edit: August 04, 2018, 09:03:07 am by Disco dave »

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I have not been punting that long so my view is based on a very short time scale.

Its nice to see a wg interact with the forum, probably could do with more of that. Although I have to agree with a few members in that what goes on in our lives is irrelevant.

Not what this site's for mate, Admin set up UKE for that, this site's for punters. There's very few escorts that can post on here without pre-mod and their access is limited.
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I have not been punting that long so my view is based on a very short time scale.

Its nice to see a wg interact with the forum, probably could do with more of that. Although I have to agree with a few members in that what goes on in our lives is irrelevant.

The wg point about the price increases are maybe to get rid of the bad punters, that door swings both ways. As a wg you can say you have seen it all but us punters have seen it too. You may have seen scabby cocks and been in difficult situations, punters have seen some horrific wg and every punt has the same danger element as most of us are normal blokes walking into unknown situations. Raising prices may work and get you a better type of client but you have to remember that a £80 half a hour punt is 2-3 days work for some punters who are your bread a butter. You also have to take into account that punters budget to get the most out of the punts, some guys can only afford a hj and some a hour. By putting the prices up and up you will get less business, me personally if the prices continue to go up will go from 2-3 a month to 1. I have stopped massages due to some rates im getting quoted are more expensive than a wg rates. Those words may just be water off a ducks back to wg who read this, but ultimately that cash stays in my pocket now.

Like every punter or consumer or client, we all want the best value to our hard earned money.

Well said 👍

Offline CELICA GT

For me punting is a luxury and is at the bottom of my list when it comes to shelling out money, if I have it I do, if not I don't. I punted more when £50/ 30min than current £60/ 30min. It's simple economics for me.

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Well, I'm certainly not going to wade into the middle of a thread that will without doubt, become yet another NE drama so, all I will say about this topic is;
Ladies - Charge what the hell you like, I really don't care - but, if it's more than £60 per 30 mins, I won't be seeing you. :thumbsdown:

Oh for the simple life :cool:

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Its nice to see a wg interact with the forum, probably could do with more of that.

And with an invitation like that, how can I resist?!  :D

Quote from: Disco dave
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By putting the prices up and up you will get less business

This was exactly the idea when I put my prices up. It's not to earn more money than ever before, but to earn the same amount of money seeing fewer clients.

I can't imagine many people in any industry would be impressed at being told "you need to work longer to earn the same wage".

I'm averaging the same amount per day now as when I was the same price as most EE girls but over much fewer hours.

It's a bonus that it has served to weed out the undesirables Lydia mentioned earlier amongst her many good points.

Xx

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And with an invitation like that, how can I resist?!  :D

It's a bonus that it has served to weed out the undesirables

Xx

You weren't invited DD got it wrong, uke is for interaction, this site is is aimed primarily at punters.
I'm sure many girls will find themselves undesirable if they increase there prices. It's greed for the most part as far as I'm concerned.

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And with an invitation like that, how can I resist?!  :D

Just a little reminder of the rules Admin has in place regarding service providers before he starts banning.

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The site allows service providers to be members, but there is no tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. The site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'. Transsexual service providers may be members, but not male service providers. Service providers are recommended to join External Link/Members Only instead.

I would suggest any SP who wants to remain on this site takes notice of the said rules and ignores any invitation from members who have no clue whatsoever what they're talking about.

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Apologies.

Im not on uke so was not aware.

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Apologies.

Im not on uke so was not aware.

 :thumbsup:

Nobody is perfect, just check the rules if you're not sure about posting anything  :hi:

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Any service provider can increase prices and say it's down to inflation. The same inflation rate applies to service seekers.

So what if the region is cheaper than others - who says we have to match them?

Offline datwabbit

I think it's fair to say rate rise= greed.

Let's be honest it's probably a psychologically difficult job ( I wouldn't want to fuck me) but it is extremely well paid.

You see, I've seen some mention that on UKE. I think Skylah Rhodes said something like that.

The fact is, they choose to do the job because of the money.

So no sympathy from me on the difficulties of it. Just quit!

Offline waynekerr600

You see, I've seen some mention that on UKE. I think Skylah Rhodes said something like that.

Ironically she'll never get the 'opportunity' to fuck me.

Offline Tiger63

And with an invitation like that, how can I resist?!  :D

This was exactly the idea when I put my prices up. It's not to earn more money than ever before, but to earn the same amount of money seeing fewer clients.

I can't imagine many people in any industry would be impressed at being told "you need to work longer to earn the same wage".

I'm averaging the same amount per day now as when I was the same price as most EE girls but over much fewer hours.

It's a bonus that it has served to weed out the undesirables Lydia mentioned earlier amongst her many good points.

Xx

For a minute I almost believed you

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But what use would it be me trying to get sympathy? Again I've not upped my rates and posting to justify it. I'm just saying that there's more to us than just being greedy little whores.
Pet lets be honest here no there's not. You can't and you won't work for £8 a hour when you can lie back and get paid over a £100 a hour. Tart it up as much as you want "sophisticated, educated, clean, intelligent what ever shite you write on your profiles your all in the game to make a quick buck. Stop with all the shite you will charge the highest rates you can, the comment about Scots being cleaner how about when someone comes to you with a smelly dick nock £10 off his booking and buy him soap and shower gel everyone's a winner! Makes my blood boil whenever i hear a prozzie being sensitive aye you'll be my friend you will listen but you'll charge me for the pleasure. It's a business your out to get what you can at whatever price so don't pretend it's anything else coz it ain't.

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Pet lets be honest here no there's not. You can't and you won't work for £8 a hour when you can lie back and get paid over a £100 a hour. Tart it up as much as you want "sophisticated, educated, clean, intelligent what ever shite you write on your profiles your all in the game to make a quick buck. Stop with all the shite you will charge the highest rates you can, the comment about Scots being cleaner how about when someone comes to you with a smelly dick nock £10 off his booking and buy him soap and shower gel everyone's a winner! Makes my blood boil whenever i hear a prozzie being sensitive aye you'll be my friend you will listen but you'll charge me for the pleasure. It's a business your out to get what you can at whatever price so don't pretend it's anything else coz it ain't.

To be honest I probably wouldn't have put it like that..... But you're not far from the truth imo  :thumbsup: