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Offline Jimmyredcab

Really, would you care to link a few of these, after all you are not saying they are doing anything bad  :music:

James, he is a notorius [banned-site-auto-censor] fluffie, I don't believe a word he says, can you imagine a pro$$ie doing tax returns in front of a punter ----- do me a favour.  :rolleyes:

James, he is a notorius [banned-site-auto-censor] fluffie, I don't believe a word he says, can you imagine a pro$$ie doing tax returns in front of a punter ----- do me a favour.  :rolleyes:

I find it difficult to imagine most WG's doing a tax return whether in front of a punter or not!

I know some do declare and pay tax on some of their earnings.

As for one WG advising another to charge for a taxi and then cycle........

was this for an episode of You've Been Framed?

I have no problem with paying extra for an outcall to cover travel expenses.. would I be pissed off if she turned up in lycra with a bike helmet and a set of bicycle clips?

I'd probably want her to wear the helmet while we tried pussy pumping with the bike pump and I'd certainly advise her to hit the silly twat who told her to take the bike rather than a taxi with the bike pump :wacko:

Does anyone really give a toss if prossies pay tax or not? If the whole industry was legalised and all prossies started paying tax it sure as fuck wouldn't come out of their current prices. The price we pay would increase to reflect their new "good citizen" status.

Not true, the spare cash isn't there in punters' pockets for that to happen. It might have been during the boom, but those times won't come again.

Offline Zeusthedoc

No you can't, that is total cobblers.
There is a limit to what a pro$$ie can claim for expenses, HMRC are not stupid.

No, they're not stupid...
hence the creative accountancy, it depends on what the nature of the business it....

"consultants" get away with much more;
get yourself a good accountant whatever line of self-employed work you're in!

Seriously I don't honk many will happily give away there hard earned to the tax man and those who do massively underestimate the amount ....wtf it's like a self employed taxi driver ! As for cycling instead of a taxi... NO WAY !

Offline Daffodil

Does anyone really give a toss if prossies pay tax or not? If the whole industry was legalised and all prossies started paying tax it sure as fuck wouldn't come out of their current prices. The price we pay would increase to reflect their new "good citizen" status.

Not when I'm fucking them, but it does piss me off when they all spout the same bollocks on an internet forum. Sometimes I think these prossies consider us punters mugs.....

Offline Jimmyredcab

Not when I'm fucking them, but it does piss me off when they all spout the same bollocks on an internet forum. Sometimes I think these prossies consider us punters mugs.....

That is pretty much my sentiments, I don't give two fucks if they don't pay tax, I only pay tax because I have no choice.

What pisses me off is the bullshit where they all insist they are registered with HMRC when they are more than likely on benefits.   :dash:

Offline Jimmyredcab


get yourself a good accountant whatever line of self-employed work you're in!

My accountant specialises in taxi drivers, I still end up with a big bill twice a year.   :(

Offline baltar

Yea.... Makes me think if I have an outcall we should start with a bath/shower together just to be sure... Then again if she was clean beforehand, a little fresh girl sweat might be kinda hot?

Offline baltar

Does anyone really give a toss if prossies pay tax or not? If the whole industry was legalised and all prossies started paying tax it sure as fuck wouldn't come out of their current prices. The price we pay would increase to reflect their new "good citizen" status.

Lol can you imagine... "£100 and hour not including VAT"

I know a lot of people working in cash trades don't declare their income, some not for years but that is their choice. Just because you wouldn't, doesn't mean everyone doesn't.

The person who robbed me thought I wouldn't use banks because I wouldn't want to declare anything. He got a bit of a surprise.

Sorry to hear that, that's awful!

Offline Dani

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No you can't, that is total cobblers.
There is a limit to what a pro$$ie can claim for expenses, HMRC are not stupid.

I have to agree here.  even with a separate working flat we can only claim against the rooms a client will use and not any we use just for ourselves, make up, hair, nails etc is not claimable as these would be classed as normal expenses regardless of job.  Same as most clothes too and lingerie.  Only specialised clothing such as PVC or dressing up outfits would be claimable.  Condoms are claimable but baby wipes are not as many people use these to remove make up.  Like every self employed job we can only claim for expenses that we would not need to pay out for if working PAYE. 
I remember one girl being told she could claim for a boob job which was hilarious as that would be classed as for her and not for work.

If we tried to claim for everything we would not only be laughed at we may find HMRC decides to do a little investigation to determine if we are declaring everything and I am pretty sure very few if any declare every penny.  Incalls perhaps as it would be easy for them to watch and see how many people come and go and for how long but outcalls?  I doubt it.

Offline Jimmyredcab



If we tried to claim for everything we would not only be laughed at we may find HMRC decides to do a little investigation to determine if we are declaring everything and I am pretty sure very few if any declare every penny.  Incalls perhaps as it would be easy for them to watch and see how many people come and go and for how long but outcalls?  I doubt it.

I doubt they would do that with an Indie but they may show an interest in a busy massage parlour to see if they should be registered for VAT.

Online James999

I doubt they would do that with an Indie but they may show an interest in a busy massage parlour to see if they should be registered for VAT.

They don't need to, all they do is make an assumption, say 2 clients a day @ £150 5 days a week and say 40 weeks a year, thus send her a tax demand based on £60,000 the pro$$ie then has a choice, pay up or produce her accounts  :sarcastic:

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I doubt they would do that with an Indie but they may show an interest in a busy massage parlour to see if they should be registered for VAT.

And the authorities now have sites like this where dated reviews are left with links to brothels that they could use to help them gather evidence. :hi:

Online smiths

They don't need to, all they do is make an assumption, say 2 clients a day @ £150 5 days a week and say 40 weeks a year, thus send her a tax demand based on £60,000 the pro$$ie then has a choice, pay up or produce her accounts  :sarcastic:

Plus they can back date the tax of course they estimate is owed from previous years AND add penalties on top for not paying those previous years owed tax on time. Using A/W and/or the WGs site and punting sites they could gather the required evidence she was working as a WG for years. :hi:

Offline Zeusthedoc

My accountant specialises in taxi drivers, I still end up with a big bill twice a year.   :(

you need the one that Jimmy Carr had....
if comes down to whether or not (you feel) it's worth it to try and write-off cash in the name of 'saving tax'....

I don't know what my accountant does half the time....

problem is, he helps himself to a chunk of the money that he 'saves' me....
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 03:42:49 pm by dopebeats »


Offline Dani

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They don't need to, all they do is make an assumption, say 2 clients a day @ £150 5 days a week and say 40 weeks a year, thus send her a tax demand based on £60,000 the pro$$ie then has a choice, pay up or produce her accounts  :sarcastic:

The tax man does not assume 2 clients a day.  They work it out on an average hourly working week if you get caught and even those who are busy rarely do 39 hours a week every week.

All the ones who have their own website with a domain name paid for by credit card are damn foolish if they don't pay tax as I know that is how they catch you out as most when they start out don't hide their details on the Whois site so that takes the tax man straight to her door.

Online James999

The tax man does not assume 2 clients a day. .

I was giving an EXAMPLE  :dash:

The bottom line is if the Tax man investigates a pro$$ie she's FUCKED  :hi:
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 05:38:52 pm by James999 »

Offline Sailormack

In the event of a prostitute being investigated for tax evasion the consequences would be insignificant as the assets will be in the name of the pimp  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

I was giving an EXAMPLE  :dash:

The bottom line is if the Tax man investigates a pro$$ie she's FUCKED :hi:

Why do you think most refuse to show their face, use a false name, use a PAYG phone and only accept cash.    :rolleyes:

Offline adindas

Why do you think most refuse to show their face, use a false name, use a PAYG phone and only accept cash.    :rolleyes:

Spot on ....

Offline Jimmyredcab

We've been here before, and it's always surprising how very definite some people seem to be about prostitutes not paying tax. Some (usually part-time) may not bother, but there are also those who operate sensibly who I know damn well pay tax - as I have been around when they've been working on their returns.

Also Jolyon's useful site has been mentioned many times on various Boards by people who have found it helpful. [[Link hidden, login to view]]

I wondered why you were so supportive of prostitutes with all this nonsense about them paying tax, maybe the fact that you have made a large number of posts on a pro$$ie owned forum could solve the mystery ---------- they banned me after a few posts.

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Offline Ali Katt

I wondered why you were so supportive of prostitutes with all this nonsense about them paying tax, maybe the fact that you have made a large number of posts on a pro$$ie owned forum could solve the mystery ---------- they banned me after a few posts.

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If he enjoys that site fair play. But catching a prossie working on her tax returns is total bullshit, must have been a fucking boring punt if it was true. Some prossies do pay tax, I have spoken to a prossie that said she declared herself as massage therapist. Whether she was lying or not - who knows? Who cares? What I find insulting is silly prossies that say how they have no money, but claim every benefit going, also prossies that claim benefits full stop.


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