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Author Topic: The most ridicolous advice come from SAAFE moderator to a WG  (Read 13820 times)

Online Ali Katt

thanks.

The bit where amy says "I wouldn't do a one hour outcall for 100 anywhere, let alone London."
 Well thats ok as I dont think I would pay Amy £100 per hour anywhere either with her attitude  :hi:
There is a reason why Romanians are doing so well in London, some are a crap shag as the reviews suggest, but for £60-100 an hour it is enough to lure men in. The thing is £200 is no longer the going rate, if it ever was and many punters aren't willing to pay what they were a few years ago. I used to regularly pay £120+ in Sheffield and Leeds, I don't think I've paid that for 3 years now. I know it's not London, but that's an example to put it into perspective.

TBF it was XW5 who really suggested the cycling, and he's a bloke. But yes Amy is a tad silly.

Offline adindas

Can't believe they keep on about £200ph being a reasonable rate for outcall in London! WTF.......that's way too steep!  :dash:

Do not worry. They will soon be ruled out by natural competition if they keep thinking like that.
I know some of you guys might be disagree with me but from my punting POV I am in favour of Romanians flooding into punting market in Britain.

While some of them are shit which I fully agree but if you are venturing and willing to take a risk of crap punting you might find some true gems out there in the market.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 11:13:04 PM by adindas »

Offline AnthG

TBF it was XW5 who really suggested the cycling, and he's a bloke. But yes Amy is a tad silly.
But Amys response

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Ha, I think that depends where you are. Where I live there's hills and cliffs so not good, but if you're somewhere that's flat as a pool table I think it's a good idea :).

But she lives in Scarborough, probably one of the nicest places in the country to cycle - I go there very often as I have relatives who live there. She is making it sound like she is riding through the Australian outback or something.

They even have the Scarborough Festival Of Cycling there each year. But saying that the main picture there looks like someone riding off a cliff :)

http://www.scarboroughfestivalofcycling.co.uk/

Offline Zeusthedoc

I've said before and i'll say again....

I'm suspicious of profiles which only have photoshopped pics....even more of ones that have heavily photoshopped pics....

that Amy prick needs to fuck off....it's bitches like her that make it difficult to have a decent punt....

She clearly thinks punters are scum for paying for sex, yet she

a) sells it
b) "advises" on how to sell it
c) considers herself a fucking zealot of all things punting!

and to advise ripping punters off....that just takes the fucking piss...as far as I'm concerned she can cunt right off!

Offline Lanya

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Of course your hourly tax free rate would never cover travel costs would it  :dash:


Oh Finn we meet again. Sure ur not up for that punt? My point was that we shouldn't charge or expect more than our Incall rate for our outcall rate except maybe a tenner or so ish for taxi dependant. I realise most wg are tax free. But I don't mind traveling outside my flat for bookings, just don't want to have to pay extra taxi wise for it, and no I don't have a driver.

Offline adindas



Oh Finn we meet again. Sure ur not up for that punt? My point was that we shouldn't charge or expect more than our Incall rate for our outcall rate except maybe a tenner or so ish for taxi dependant. I realise most wg are tax free. But I don't mind traveling outside my flat for bookings, just don't want to have to pay extra taxi wise for it, and no I don't have a driver.

TBF  the travel time go and return on the top of taxi fare will also need to be included. This is an opportunity cost that otherwise you would have earned if you are not doing outcall. But definitely it is not adivisibale to see the client as a cash cow.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2013, 08:13:08 AM by adindas »

if she turned up sweaty they have a shower together more fun :)

Offline finn5555



Oh Finn we meet again. Sure ur not up for that punt? My point was that we shouldn't charge or expect more than our Incall rate for our outcall rate except maybe a tenner or so ish for taxi dependant. I realise most wg are tax free. But I don't mind traveling outside my flat for bookings, just don't want to have to pay extra taxi wise for it, and no I don't have a driver.

No thanks your not my type  :hi:

Tony Montana

TBF  the travel time go and return on the top of taxi fare will also need to be included. This is an opportunity cost that otherwise you would have earned if you are not doing outcall. But definitely it is not adivisibale to see the client as a cash cow.

I saw a young & naive WG who charged £100 per hour for outcalls but she told me on her last booking she had to pay £45 for a taxi to the client's hotel and £45 for the taxi home.  She stopped doing outcalls soon after (unfortunately for me  :( )

Offline broksonic

Especially when there are Romanian incalls at £80 an hour and agencies with supermodel types at £200 or less for outcall.

Not really  because  those  in London  earn  a higher wage  than anywhere  else  in the uk
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Offline potato

We are back to no pro$$ie logic again.   A girl doing outcalls only, does not have the expenses that an incall girl does if she had to rent an incall flat full time and pay all the bills associated with that. An outcall girls expenses are solely travel costs which, dependant on distance and how she gets there, will vary - but she does not have to pay rent, rates, heating, laundry etc.,  Paying for "travelling time" is also a misnomer because if she can't do incalls then she can't be missing anyone else whilst doing the outcall.  It beats me how many 25yr olds can't drive and rely on taxis to get anywhere ( excluding london, where it must be a pain to travel by your own car - though there is the tube etc., though most pro$$ies obviously think they are too good to take that).

Incall / outcall pricing is up the wall because too many pro$$ies just copy someone else's pricing or listen to idiots on saafe whose motives may be questionable.  Occasionally, there is the odd girl out there that collect regular clients, actually think about their prices on the basis of "what do i need to make each day/week"  and everyone is happy..

Offline vorian

Good points, again I think from personal experience if a WG's drives or not is another subtle indication of how well they are organised in  their personal life. Which normally shows through in personality and quality of service.
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Online Ali Katt

We are back to no pro$$ie logic again.   A girl doing outcalls only, does not have the expenses that an incall girl does if she had to rent an incall flat full time and pay all the bills associated with that. An outcall girls expenses are solely travel costs which, dependant on distance and how she gets there, will vary - but she does not have to pay rent, rates, heating, laundry etc.,  Paying for "travelling time" is also a misnomer because if she can't do incalls then she can't be missing anyone else whilst doing the outcall.  It beats me how many 25yr olds can't drive and rely on taxis to get anywhere ( excluding london, where it must be a pain to travel by your own car - though there is the tube etc., though most pro$$ies obviously think they are too good to take that).

Incall / outcall pricing is up the wall because too many pro$$ies just copy someone else's pricing or listen to idiots on saafe whose motives may be questionable.  Occasionally, there is the odd girl out there that collect regular clients, actually think about their prices on the basis of "what do i need to make each day/week"  and everyone is happy..
It depends on the prossie, many incall prossies work from their own home, I've seen family photos and all that nonsense to prove it, many work in shithole areas so pay low rates anyway, some claim benefits so don't pay for most of their rent anyway. Some have the gall to say they have "a lot of expenses so need to put their prices up" especially when it is shit every working adult pays. Their basic actual expenses are a big box of johnnies, a tube of lube and a box of value wet wipes.

Offline Daffodil

It depends on the prossie, many incall prossies work from their own home, I've seen family photos and all that nonsense to prove it, many work in shithole areas so pay low rates anyway, some claim benefits so don't pay for most of their rent anyway. Some have the gall to say they have "a lot of expenses so need to put their prices up" especially when it is shit every working adult pays. Their basic actual expenses are a big box of johnnies, a tube of lube and a box of value wet wipes.

Quite. The reality is that a prossie's 'expenses' are virtually non-existent and pale in comparison to many small businesses.

Offline MidlandsEscortxo

Some of the girls on SAAFE seem lovely. others however (Amy, also im sure a few others but cant remember their names off top of my head). They give shit advice and love nothing more than being patronizing, and god forbid anyone dosnt agree with her. Came off it purely because of the woman's attitude.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Of course your hourly tax free rate would never cover travel costs would it  :dash:

We all know pro$$ies don't pay tax but I can understand why outcalls cost more, a one hour booking could easily take two hours or more with the traveling time --------------- and I am no fluffie.    :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Quite. The reality is that a prossie's 'expenses' are virtually non-existent and pale in comparison to many small businesses.

That is especially true when they work from home ---------especially when they are on benefits, Adultwork can also cost nothing if they have a private gallery.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Some of the girls on SAAFE seem lovely. others however (Amy, also im sure a few others but cant remember their names off top of my head). They give shit advice and love nothing more than being patronizing, and god forbid anyone dosnt agree with her. Came off it purely because of the woman's attitude.

If you owned a restaurant would you ask rival restaurants how to improve your business or would you listen to feedback from your customers.

We give far better advice than you will ever get on Saafe.    :hi:

Offline broksonic

We all know pro$$ies don't pay tax but I can understand why outcalls cost more, a one hour booking could easily take two hours or more with the traveling time --------------- and I am no fluffie.    :hi:

That's why this makes me laugh because we all know very well that not a single escort pays any tax on the money she gets for escorting

http://www.saafe.info/
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Offline Strawberry

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That's why this makes me laugh because we all know very well that not a single escort pays any tax on the money she gets for escorting

http://www.saafe.info/

You know that every single prossie in the UK doesn't pay a penny on her prossie earnings?How can you know this for a fact?

Offline broksonic

You know that every single prossie in the UK doesn't pay a penny on her prossie earnings?How can you know this for a fact?

Because once they have the money they are hardly going to be telling the tax man.  Especially if they also claim dole money

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Offline NIK

You know that every single prossie in the UK doesn't pay a penny on her prossie earnings?How can you know this for a fact?

Who the hell would pay tax on cash in hand?

Offline broksonic

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Offline Strawberry

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Who the hell would pay tax on cash in hand?

Some people do. They do it to avoid any nasty surprises or future hassles, because they know the onus is them to do so, because they need or want to prove income either for buying or renting a house. Not every WG is claiming benefits, gaps in NI contributions can affect things like pensions and future benefit claims should you ever need them.

Broksonic says he knows not a penny is paid on any prossie earnings, well I've paid a penny(and a fair few more) on my prossying income so I know that statement is not accurate.


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