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Offline Quesadilla

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Separated from the wife this year partly due to our sex life waning, in turn due to her putting on loads of weight (from a vivacious and curvaceous size 16 to a lumpy size 20+) but not just the weight, the fact that she does zero exercise and is content to just slob in front of the TV of an evening has made her increasingly unattractive.  Even though we get on really well and have a laugh our marriage had just become a platonic friendship. 

ARE YOU MARRIED TO MY WIFE   !!!!..........
It's the same old story - as old as the hills.  :(
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Offline west8

Fantastic thread to read through and a lot of things sound very familiar.

For me, it's about two things: frequency and variety. It's a rare day indeed I don't need 'it' at least twice. DIY doesn't cut the mustard - it has to be 'the real thing'.

Plus, regardless of whether your GF or wife is a plain Jane or a supermodel, she's familiar, predictable and available. Plus, her nationality/ethnicity/size/height is a non-variable.

When the UK generally (and London in particular) has such an extraordinarily diverse selection of women from literally all corners of the earth, I say it's our duty as men to explore them all until we drop!

password02

Fantastic thread to read through and a lot of things sound very familiar.

For me, it's about two things: frequency and variety. It's a rare day indeed I don't need 'it' at least twice. DIY doesn't cut the mustard - it has to be 'the real thing'.

Plus, regardless of whether your GF or wife is a plain Jane or a supermodel, she's familiar, predictable and available. Plus, her nationality/ethnicity/size/height is a non-variable.

When the UK generally (and London in particular) has such an extraordinarily diverse selection of women from literally all corners of the earth, I say it's our duty as men to explore them all until we drop!

+1 - some very good points made

Offline unclesweetheart

I'm single, a commitmentphobe, so can't relate to the problems expressed by the married guys on this thread.

I punt because it's enormously pleasurable. Largely thanks to following up some good reviews here on UKP I've found some women who I completely believe enjoy what they do, who are intelligent, funny, good company and beautiful. I've been able to "explore my sexuality" (that tired phrase!) in a way that would have been inconceivable otherwise. The fact that these fantastic women are brilliant at providing me with a what is, at the end of the day, a fantasy may lead to my giving up punting in favour of a more "real" relationship, but for now it's like having a number of mistresses who I go to for paid companionship and the kind of lustful, passionate sex that seems to wither in marriage. I tell myself, not unreasonably, that if I were French this arrangement would be accepted as the norm.

Maybe I've just struck lucky, and I'm still in some kind of honeymoon period. But for now it seems to me that punting is the sanest thing I ever did.
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Offline Jackjones

Maybe I've just struck lucky, and I'm still in some kind of honeymoon period. But for now it seems to me that punting is the sanest thing I ever did.

2013 spent over £1000 going on dates to find NOTHING at the end of it, besides one uni girl telling me she only was on dating sites for a free meal ticket... paying for it really is just cutting the BS out of the way and insuring i get what i want.

Very sad reading some of this, spilt from my missus mainly with "compatability" reasons among the sparse sex but I caught onto this thread sometime ago a sad litany of blokes most quite young where the wife has gone "off";(..

http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/63643898169732258

I did make mention once of Michelle Langley's book Womens Infedility where  she cites,

Women’s relationships today follow a very
predictable pattern:

        They push men for commitment

        They get what they want

        They lose interest in sex

        They become attracted to someone else

        They start cheating (emotionally and/or physically)

        They begin telling their partners that they need time apart

        They blame their partners for their behavior…and eventually, after an unusually long time of vacillating back and forth; they end their relationships or marriages. 

Dosen't quite fit some instances but it seems most of her reasoning is right, its online as a PDF if you want to read it.

Does anyone know of any academic studies that have been done on the subject? I often wonder if it's simpley that most women have a low sex drive anyway that as we know all too well  rapidly fades with age.

Course there are older nympho's around but seemingley very rare.

 
« Last Edit: October 16, 2014, 01:23:39 PM by Watts.E.Dunn »

I recently came across this 'review' of the new book and film ' Gone Girl' on Daily Mail Online

Considering it is written by a female journalist , it is a brilliant insight into society (and women in general  ) .
'Man bashing ' as I call it is prevalent in the media.....and I really think that instead of putting up with it men will start to rebel in their own subtle ways .

Hence the blanking of any suggestion of sex ...I've just passed the anniversary (Sept ) of us NOT having sex ......I'll give it another six months , - but given the right circumstances I could easily walk away based purely on this one fact ... At the age I am (late fifties) I am NOT ready to curl up and die ...... three  men I know have been diagnosed with prostate cancer in the last year .

You are only on this planet once ...make the best of it !!!.. Anyway ,--I digress (as usual )

Here is the article....

'The book has sold six million copies. The film has taken £53 million at the box office. No wonder everyone is talking about Gone Girl — not least because Gillian Flynn’s thriller invites all married couples to assess just how well they truly know their other halves.
Flynn said the basis of the novel was her belief that marriage is one ‘long con’. Herein lies the most chilling aspect of her story — its casual demonising of husbands as ineffectual, unreliable, selfish oafs.
This has become a constant refrain in popular culture today. Whether in films, books, newspaper columns, TV shows or adverts... husbands are inevitably portrayed as irritating, inadequate, barely house-trained Neanderthals.
If they don’t snore or leave their wet towel on the floor, they refuse to do their fair share of household chores. Like the husband in Gone Girl, they disappoint at every level.
But do we ever stop to think how much we women might disappoint men in marriage? If we are honest, how often does he come last in our list of priorities — behind the children, our parents, our careers, even our pets?


Much though we may moan, the vast majority of husbands I know work themselves to the bone, trying to do the best for their families in tough economic times. Is it any wonder young men are put off marriage altogether? The average age a man marries is now 37.
Do women think constantly harping on about their men’s shortcomings is conducive to a deep and fulfilling relationship? It’s basic psychology that if you constantly tell a person they’re worthless, they will act as if they are.
A particularly nasty side-effect of the feminist revolution is that in securing equality, too many women seem hell-bent on reducing men to second-class citizens.
We want men to play an equal part in parenting. Yet fathers rarely win custody of their children if a marriage falls apart, though they are inevitably forced to foot the bill to care for an ex-wife and family, even if it’s the wife who has left.
Women should remember they are not perfect. So why do so many of us expect our men to be? Why denigrate the men we fell in love with?
One thing I am sure of. That if we take a Gone Girl view of marriage, the only thing likely to be gone is our husbands.'


Ironically, my wife has just got a kindle and this is the first book she  has downloaded ......!!!!




Offline x369

I do not have any problems getting gorgeous girls when I am in a night club or at the gym etc.
My problem is I go through phases when I do not want a GF, but if I pick up a girl and tell her I do not want a GF but can we just have sex, they will say " yes thats ok". They soon start texting and calling asking when I am taking them out again. So if I just want a shag, then WGs are my best option.
I used to see a WG on regular basis and also followed her on Twitter, I accidentally told her that I followed her and she asked for my user name so I told her, next thing I had her DM messaging me telling me about her kids and how her ex had stopped paying for his kids etc, if I had wanted a girlfriend I would of gone out and got one :unknown:

Well this will come off contrived no matter how I word this.

I am young good looking guy who's in good shape. I have a decent car and flat. I'm not quite where I want to be in terms of my career but I'm working towards it. Therein lies the problem. It's very hard to maintain a relationship when you have career ambitions. Women in General can "seem" very demanding when you have career goals. It's very hard to keep a girlfriend when you're driven.

Finding fuck buddies is just complicated and just causes issues. I feel most women find it hard to detach themselves from the emotional aspects of sex.

So what's the last option when you're a virile 20 odd year old?

I never considered punting an option until my friends introduced me to it. I was at first skeptical as my immediate thoughts were "I'm too good to pay for sex" but then when you look at it rationally, we all pay for it one way or another. Punting just cuts out all the courting bullshit that us men jump through hoops for just to fuck.

And I have to admit, there is a strange buzz when you're making your way to an area you've only heard of in an episode of crimewatch, not knowing what lays in store. Anticipating the image you've fantasised about on your computer screen manifest itself into a sordid reality. When I knock on the door and it creaks open, my adrenaline is 10/10 and my anticipation peaks.

I can't lie, there are many times where I miss the warmth and feeling of a relationship when you're embracing the coldness of a sniffed up coke whore. But it's a cork whore who won't nag you about pissing on the toilet seat.


"I never considered punting an option until my friends introduced me to it. I was at first skeptical as my immediate thoughts were "I'm too good to pay for sex" but then when you look at it rationally, we all pay for it one way or another. Punting just cuts out all the courting bullshit that us men jump through hoops for just to fuck".

You've got that about right. Sex costs one way or the other, no such thing as a free lunch or fuck;(..

Offline Iblisuk

Ok, I'm the pussy so I'll start.

I don't/can't/won't do emotional sex/physical love. Call it what you like. It gives me the absolute shits, scares me to death.

There is a simple reason behind this, and it was a rape accusation by an ex-partner. If a woman can go to Old bill and just say 'he raped me'. And the consequences for the accused are massive. It now just has a mental block for me.
 
That's how it started anyway, now it's a game a thrill to see what's behind the door, whether to walk or stay, how many extras you can con/talk or negotiate yourself into...it's a great laugh.


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Offline Diehard

Well this will come off contrived no matter how I word this.

I am young good looking guy who's in good shape. I have a decent car and flat. I'm not quite where I want to be in terms of my career but I'm working towards it. Therein lies the problem. It's very hard to maintain a relationship when you have career ambitions. Women in General can "seem" very demanding when you have career goals. It's very hard to keep a girlfriend when you're driven.

Finding fuck buddies is just complicated and just causes issues. I feel most women find it hard to detach themselves from the emotional aspects of sex.

So what's the last option when you're a virile 20 odd year old?





I never considered punting an option until my friends introduced me to it. I was at first skeptical as my immediate thoughts were "I'm too good to pay for sex" but then when you look at it rationally, we all pay for it one way or another. Punting just cuts out all the courting bullshit that us men jump through hoops for just to fuck.

And I have to admit, there is a strange buzz when you're making your way to an area you've only heard of in an episode of crimewatch, not knowing what lays in store. Anticipating the image you've fantasised about on your computer screen manifest itself into a sordid reality. When I knock on the door and it creaks open, my adrenaline is 10/10 and my anticipation peaks.

I can't lie, there are many times where I miss the warmth and feeling of a relationship when you're embracing the coldness of a sniffed up coke whore. But it's a cork whore who won't nag you about pissing on the toilet seat.

Top post this, and mirrors my position save for the being good looking and having a decent car bit. I was good looking I think back in the day but back then was so arrogant I expected girls to chat me up so obviously didn't make the most of sexual opportunities.

Now, I have beer belly and double chin so chatting women up not an option but to be honest now an experienced punter, even if I had a six pack and was model material id still punt. The buzz of going to a shitty area or doing a car meet is half the fun. I cannot be arsed to chat women up, why give the bitches the satisfaction, in any event even on civvie street you are paying to fuck a woman. Best case scenario you fuck some bird night you meet her, still costs you drinks and probably food. Worse case scenario she makes you take for some dates so that gonna cost probably in excess of 300 quid before you get to fuck her.

So, punting actually not that much more expensive to start with but it quick and easy and without the hassle, apart from scouring aw! In the long run punting a lot cheaper. Ask any bloke who has gone through a divorce or separated!!!!!!

It is a no brainer to punt surely if you have money, ugly fucker like me, or hot stud like some black guy above. I think only time punting a bad idea is for students. They haven't any money and if not careful could get into all sorts of difficulties if punting becomes a hobby so at university I'd say go through the ball ache of trying to pull. Plus at uni, girls aren't motivated as much by money, or at least they didn't used to be, not sure if that applies now.

Offline Diehard

Let's be blunt. Women have nothing to offer men other than a pussy and a vehicle to have children. The days of our grandparents where women were the better half, and loyal, hard working for the family and good mothers are long gone. Women are scheming, lying, money obsessed scroats looking for an easy life.

The more men that get over the stigma of punting and do as we do regularly, the more you will find that seemingly 'respectable' civvie women will become escorts. Women want the easiest way to earn money. So first up, marry a footballer or celebrity. If that fails have a go at X factor or modelling or get into media. If that fails marry an accountant or other professional who so boring he will do all he can to keep said woman by showering her with money as he never had much luck when at school and uni.

If all the above fails then said women will become hookers.

There is a misconception that the majority of hookers are vulnerable drug addicts. On the contrary, there are thousands of hookers who are well educated have had or have good careers but are addicted to money. We are addicted to sex so it a simple equation.

What gets me is the hypocrisy of women who hate men who punt. It is women's attitude that makes us punt, it is and always will be a mans world.

It may sound sexist, but I think it is a accurate depiction of society
« Last Edit: October 19, 2014, 03:53:13 PM by Diehard »

Offline galcom666

I don't know if I agree with that. As I meet strong loyal women all the time.

The problem is the fact that some people want the whole package. For instance my parents think there is something wrong with not being married as a Chinese guy in his mid 30s alarmingly approaching his 40s. As such they keep setting me up on dinner dates (expensive fookin' dates too) with homely women (of many races not just Chinese).

While undoubtedly they would make fine wives there is often something lacking, in that I don't want to fuck them as I'm not attracted to them! For instance yesterday I post punt I was to go to dinner with a Chinese girl. She was 28 unmarried (unusual for Chinese girl), she was smart, hard working and fiercely loyal to her family. Unlike HK girls did not care how much money I had or make any questions about this fact* she seemed interested in me, we chatted for a bit.

However she wasn't very good looking and a 28 year old virgin. Asking some questions see seemed the traditional type. I.e. you marry her you have sex ONCE to have children, then never touch each other again.

Offline unclesweetheart

Let's be blunt. Women have nothing to offer men other than a pussy and a vehicle to have children. The days of our grandparents where women were the better half, and loyal, hard working for the family and good mothers are long gone. Women are scheming, lying, money obsessed scroats looking for an easy life.

The more men that get over the stigma of punting and do as we do regularly, the more you will find that seemingly 'respectable' civvie women will become escorts. Women want the easiest way to earn money. So first up, marry a footballer or celebrity. If that fails have a go at X factor or modelling or get into media. If that fails marry an accountant or other professional who so boring he will do all he can to keep said woman by showering her with money as he never had much luck when at school and uni.

If all the above fails then said women will become hookers.

There is a misconception that the majority of hookers are vulnerable drug addicts. On the contrary, there are thousands of hookers who are well educated have had or have good careers but are addicted to money. We are addicted to sex so it a simple equation.

What gets me is the hypocrisy of women who hate men who punt. It is women's attitude that makes us punt, it is and always will be a mans world.

It may sound sexist, but I think it is a accurate depiction of society

Utter misogynist shite
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I think only time punting a bad idea is for students. They haven't any money and if not careful could get into all sorts of difficulties if punting becomes a hobby so at university I'd say go through the ball ache of trying to pull. Plus at uni, girls aren't motivated as much by money, or at least they didn't used to be, not sure if that applies now.

I punted through my student days (recent graduate) and found it fine as long as you dont go mad and stick to a "once a month" timeframe. However I would add that I also had low expenses (living at home and dont buy expensive stuff anyway) but I did manage to keep punting mostly on my student loan, some from a job I got in my third year.


Offline JV547845

and it was a rape accusation by an ex-partner. If a woman can go to Old bill and just say 'he raped me'.

There's a very low chance of conviction but that's awful dude.  Women like that should be on a saafe style list of crazies not to put your dick in.  I mean seriously, she can fuck off, she's not fit to raise children.  No way of proving her to be a liar though, so rape is always going to be a thorny issue for both victims of the crime and false accusations

Offline JV547845

For instance my parents think there is something wrong with not being married as a Chinese guy in his mid 30s alarmingly approaching his 40s.

your mum's just getting broody Mk 2 for Grand kids.  If you're not holding out for inheritance or something, and even so to be honest, learn to say no to them now before it's too late. 

Also if you're not interested can I have the 28 year old's phone number? ;-)

I started punting because I was a virgin turning 29, and just had to pop the cherry after eleven years of porn and self abuse :crazy:. Now it's making up for lost time, and enjoying the company of women.

I haven't had a relationship due to a religious upbringing, social isolationism; social ineptitude; apathy; observing first hand a twentyfour year marriage breaking up acrimoniously with allegations of rape and child abuse. The subseqent division of material possessions, along with the emotional fallout. Money is the root of evil? It certainly is a factor in many major life upsets.

FWIW I have brought my own house without any help from anyone, earn enough and budget sensibly to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle, a 'grey man'.

I can understand your views Diehard, but I'd like to think that there are still good women and some of them will be prostitutes. In this game it seems easy to cultivate a negative or cynical attitude to women. I've caught myself looking at civilian women and automatically assuming that they are on the game.

Can't live with them, can't live without them.

It's once a month for me too, have to keep a healthy cash flow. Although it can be hard to resist booking a punt in the mean time.

Offline Jackjones

Utter misogynist shite

Agree. Given most of the married guys on her can't fualt their otherhalf for anything other then lack of sex drive or no longer being the younf fit girl that they married i'd have to second this.

Offline galcom666

your mum's just getting broody Mk 2 for Grand kids.  If you're not holding out for inheritance or something, and even so to be honest, learn to say no to them now before it's too late. 

Also if you're not interested can I have the 28 year old's phone number? ;-)

I can understand her POV but I'm the black sheep of the family, I completed my 100things to do before I die when I was 29. It's just that all my peers in the Chinese community were all married before they were 23 and most of them have children in their teens.

What annoys me is she's bloody devious about it. She'll watsapp me asking to meet her and dad for dinner after work (I wear a suit for work so it's kinda smart). I get there go to their table and oh look a girl is either there or comes in 5-10 minutes.

Then she says I have the shakes really bad (she had surgery couple years back go wrong and needs meds) I have to go home for my medication. Dad then says I'll go get the car... Leaving me and girl alone... at which I generally have to pay for the meal and then generally try to fob her off without  :bomb:. HK is MUCH worse as dates are like blood job interviews.

Got our of a long-term relationship that went to shit about two years ago. Don't want commitment, do want to fuck around. I tried one-night stands but they never really ended at one night so I then had to spend time dealing with the fallout. Punting seemed like the best option for me. I get to fuck around with none of the emotional consequences of one-night stands. I'll settle down again one day but for now I enjoy the variety and the fact that the good WGs aim to please, dress for sex, and so on. You get into a relationship and all that disappears after a short while, at least it always has for me.

Offline Quesadilla

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Offline JV547845


The only time my parents tried introducing me to someone we went to her house to help her with something and she was in her frumpy pyjamas.  Maybe she hadn't cottoned to the agenda (I really hope not) but I felt sorry for her.  She found a man who likes bridget jones pants etc. eventually.


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