London strip joints - intel and maybe more?

[bfdgees56]

I was at Sunset Strip in August so don't think it's closed down, mate. They probably just have to be very careful now. Zero touching when I was there.

I don't mean closed as in "shutters down" it looks revamped as a different type of bar, a salsa bar.  I did not venture in but could see no girls sitting around as you used to see by the bar.  They had a few warnings as it turns out and did not meet the requirements.  Maybe they appealed and lost so forced to close after August, but website and everything finished.  Don't think they would risk dances downstairs without a license...that would mean jail! 

[Rayzaman]

Think they might have to rename it if they want to appeal to all genders! LOL

[apple-paul]

Ever get an answer to this?

I went to Dalston two weeks ago £150 for 30mns bj covered, sex and a dance. Unfortunately only one girl I found attractive. Another place might be worth a look.

Dalston is the only thing like it left anymore, where there is a regular stripper party in some sort of premises, such as a pub or club or studio, that allows hands on or more, that I know of.

There are still several flat parties running, where a girl has organised a semi-regular party with girls dancing and available for private dances and more. These happen mainly in flats or air bnb's. A lot of these happen in a large apartment block close to borough. These are mainly something like £50 to attend, but the fridge is stocked with booze and there is usually food- pizzas and stuff. Guys will sit around in the living room, while dancers dance one after the other. Private dances will happen in the bedrooms, and what is available is up to the girl. It's been a while since I've been to any of these, but the prices are pretty much the same as getting a girl off adultwork. If you enjoy the social aspect, chatting to the girls for a bit before going off for a dance, getting to know them, then I think it's a good bargain, especially if you do your drinking and eating there, rather than in the pub beforehand. Downside is you have to know the dancers or organisers to get on the text list for the info. And I've found if you don't go regularly, you end up coming off the text lists.

I've stopped going to Dalston, last time I went was during the summer. For the above £150 mentioned above, add £20 for the entrance fee, and whatever the cost of drinks is, which I'd rather spend on an hour with a good looking Rom or Brazilian in a nice flat. There are some real stunners that very occasionally go to Dalston, and you do sometimes get lucky, but these days a sure thing is more important to me than maybe someone decent turns up. The social aspect of chatting to the dancers beforehand and having a laugh with them used to be the thing that drew me to these places, but that doesn't really happen much anymore.

[sparkus]

Dalston is the only thing like it left anymore, where there is a regular stripper party in some sort of premises, such as a pub or club or studio, that allows hands on or more, that I know of.

There are still several flat parties running, where a girl has organised a semi-regular party with girls dancing and available for private dances and more. These happen mainly in flats or air bnb's. A lot of these happen in a large apartment block close to borough. These are mainly something like £50 to attend, but the fridge is stocked with booze and there is usually food- pizzas and stuff. Guys will sit around in the living room, while dancers dance one after the other. Private dances will happen in the bedrooms, and what is available is up to the girl. It's been a while since I've been to any of these, but the prices are pretty much the same as getting a girl off adultwork. If you enjoy the social aspect, chatting to the girls for a bit before going off for a dance, getting to know them, then I think it's a good bargain, especially if you do your drinking and eating there, rather than in the pub beforehand. Downside is you have to know the dancers or organisers to get on the text list for the info. And I've found if you don't go regularly, you end up coming off the text lists.

I've stopped going to Dalston, last time I went was during the summer. For the above £150 mentioned above, add £20 for the entrance fee, and whatever the cost of drinks is, which I'd rather spend on an hour with a good looking Rom or Brazilian in a nice flat. There are some real stunners that very occasionally go to Dalston, and you do sometimes get lucky, but these days a sure thing is more important to me than maybe someone decent turns up. The social aspect of chatting to the dancers beforehand and having a laugh with them used to be the thing that drew me to these places, but that doesn't really happen much anymore.

One the one hand I'm livid I missed the Dalston golden age given that several forum regs offered to hold my hand to go.

On the other I'm relieved I never shit so close to my own doorstep.

[lougb1]

Nags Head in Whitechapel VIP dances are the closest dances I can find in town. Akin to Ye Old Axe standard.

However at 200 for 30 mins you may as well go and fuck an escort.

I really miss the Axe.

For that sort of cash why not try Phoenix Parties? Cheaper by far and potentially could fuck all of the party girls in the 2 hours, if your dick can cope, and have some banter with the SP's too,

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£160 2 hours..  bvfm surely

 

[acer123]

I was in London for a business trip last week and paid a visit to Browns in Shoreditch. The venue was fairly busy and all the women dancers which was the early evening shift up to 10pm were stunning. Great looking Italian girl with tats there stood out for me. Overall it was a good night, and did not spend too much. I heard that The Horns is closing in a few months, lack of business if folk did not know. Browns is still a good place to visit if in town.

[Momodan38]

I was in London for a business trip last week and paid a visit to Browns in Shoreditch. The venue was fairly busy and all the women dancers which was the early evening shift up to 10pm were stunning. Great looking Italian girl with tats there stood out for me. Overall it was a good night, and did not spend too much. I heard that The Horns is closing in a few months, lack of business if folk did not know. Browns is still a good place to visit if in town.

I think I know who you’re on about. She had some slick moves on the pole as well. I didn’t realise she was Italian.

Shame about the Horns closing soon.

[Mr Sinister]

. I heard that The Horns is closing in a few months, lack of business if folk did not know. Browns is still a good place to visit if in town.

Ah that's a shame had many a great night in there, is it really closing due to lack of business or may it be a licensing issue, with council wanting them out and developer wanting the property?

[acer123]

Hi

They now only operate 3 days, before it was 6 days a week.

When I worked and lived in North London before moving, I too spent many a night in The Horns, great cosy place to chill and have fun, although easy to spend too much.

Not sure if the roof top bar is remaining open, as it is run by Mrs Denise Chandler's daughter - owner of Browns/Horns and Golden Bee.

So much change has occurred in the Shoreditch area with many strip venues closing down and the council I'm sure would like it that way.

They probably own the freehold to The Horns building, worth multi millions now.

[Juulesy]

Recently returned to the Griffin to find some new girls.  Dahlia stood out, tall slim English blonde with tattoos.  She said she worked in the West End clubs before coming here and seems to love what she does.  While I didn't see any special skills on the pole, she's got moves and loves classic rock.  Sadly no touching ofc but refreshing to see a dancer who doesn't just walk round the pole to cheesy pop looking miserable only to pester you for a dance later. 

Also went to Nags Head.  Nothing new to report.  Hasn't been the same since the touching ban.

[somerandomfella]

Has The Horns closed down? Passed by there yesterday afternoon, and no signs of life. Never really rated Browns. Ye Olde Axe is sorely missed. Shoreditch scene is dead.

[molecork]

Yes External Link/Members Only

[IG88b]

Before I make the trip up north - Dalston on Wednesdays still happening these days? A rare Wednesday evening free…

[Momodan38]

Also went to Nags Head.  Nothing new to report.  Hasn't been the same since the touching ban.

I went there the other day. The council is still on their ass. There was a guy there doing some paperwork. One of the girls told me he was from the council 

[somerandomfella]

Yes External Link/Members Only

A sad day. These pen pushers have ruined the soul of some good times in Shoreditch.

[hunter66]

Before I make the trip up north - Dalston on Wednesdays still happening these days? A rare Wednesday evening free…

Yes, Wednesdays and Fridays

[semmlerino]

Haven't been to the Dalston place in a while. How is it these days? Still worth going?

[Iloveoral]

Yes, Wednesdays and Fridays

Is there a reason you haven’t contributed a single review since joining in 2018 please?

[sparkus]

Haven't been to the Dalston place in a while. How is it these days? Still worth going?

Just waiting for someone to ask what it is now, as per several pages of this thread 

[Gentlelovemaking]

Has anyone done OTC with a stripper in a London club ? If so how did you go about it.

[Rayzaman]

Haven't been to the Dalston place in a while. How is it these days? Still worth going?

I went last Summer and thought it was a dive. Poor quality girls, mostly fat or black. And for the prices, what's the point? Might as well just get an escort privately.

[IG88b]

I’ve always been a cheerleader for the place, had good times down the years. Popped in on Wednesday, first Wed in a few years for me - normally a Fri guy.

It maybe the Friday crew are more seasoned strippers or know more what expectations are, but the vibe was a bit different last night. Probably more attractive girls to be fair. A slim Asian girl, pretty. A very busty white girl, beautiful. A sexy curvaceous Brazilian having a good time. Some black girls of varying quality, but definitely some options there. But the back room action just was lacking - like they were doing you a favour by letting you touch their boobs for £60. Last few Fridays spent there  I was getting BJs for £80! One girl even kept her distance somewhat and danced a meter away for most of it! £120 offer of a HJ only and no BJ until she “knows me better”… in that case I’ll just get the minimum £60 then…so I left frustrated £250 down for the night. It was still busy and nice vibes chatting to the girls and had a good time in the public areas, but man the seediness in the private rooms was not upto the usual standards. Is this the future?

[Jedi123]

Is there any equivalent secret Dalston clubs around the country?

[sparkus]

Is there any equivalent secret Dalston clubs around the country?

Like in Dalkeith and Bilston?

[semmlerino]

I went last Summer and thought it was a dive. Poor quality girls, mostly fat or black.

This is pretty racist.

I’ve always been a cheerleader for the place, had good times down the years. Popped in on Wednesday, first Wed in a few years for me - normally a Fri guy.

It maybe the Friday crew are more seasoned strippers or know more what expectations are, but the vibe was a bit different last night. Probably more attractive girls to be fair. A slim Asian girl, pretty. A very busty white girl, beautiful. A sexy curvaceous Brazilian having a good time. Some black girls of varying quality, but definitely some options there. But the back room action just was lacking - like they were doing you a favour by letting you touch their boobs for £60. Last few Fridays spent there  I was getting BJs for £80! One girl even kept her distance somewhat and danced a meter away for most of it! £120 offer of a HJ only and no BJ until she “knows me better”… in that case I’ll just get the minimum £60 then…so I left frustrated £250 down for the night. It was still busy and nice vibes chatting to the girls and had a good time in the public areas, but man the seediness in the private rooms was not upto the usual standards. Is this the future?

Doesn't sound great. Might still check it out on a Friday.

[Mattygibbsy]

This is pretty racist.
Doesn't sound great. Might still check it out on a Friday.

No it’s not racist one bit.

[semmlerino]

No it’s not racist one bit.

Suggesting a link between the colour of the skin and the quality actually is, by definition.

[daviemac]

This is pretty racist.

If it is racist then you are guilty of racism as well, you quoted it.

To the point though if the women in the establishment are fat or black how should he describe them? 

[semmlerino]

If it is racist then you are guilty of racism as well, you quoted it.

Utter nonsense.

What makes it racist is the preceding part - "Poor quality girls'

[peterpee]

I take it that its the "Dalston" place as you guys dont want to mention the name of it

guess it should be common knowledge which place it is - but I dont have a clue, is there a way to learn which place it is you talk about here ?

Haven't been to the Dalston place in a while. How is it these days? Still worth going?

[daviemac]

Utter nonsense.

What makes it racist is the preceding part - "Poor quality girls'

The term you claim is racist is in your post, why repeat it if you think it is racist, if I think anything posted on this forum is out of order I certainly don't repeat it, I accept that if I did it would make me as bad as the original poster. I edit the offensive part out of the quote so I can't be seen to be repeating it.

Back to the point of the OP, "Poor quality girls" is his opinion and he is entitled to post his opinion. BTW he didn't say it was only black girls who were of poor quality, he included 'fat' girls as well.

"The women in the establishment are mostly fat or black" is a statement of fact as he observed it when he visited.

You haven't answered the question, if the girls he saw at the premises were either fat (as he puts it) or black how should he describe them?   

I have to say you are typical of the modern woke brigade, finding offence where there isn't any, what he posted is in no way racist, if it was we would have done something about it, we do not tolerate that sort of thing on here.

[semmlerino]

The term you claim is racist is in your post, why repeat it if you think it is racist, if I think anything posted on this forum is out of order I certainly don't repeat it, I accept that if I did it would make me as bad as the original poster. I edit the offensive part out of the quote so I can't be seen to be repeating it.


"The women in the establishment are mostly fat or black" is a statement of fact as he observed it when he visited.

You haven't answered the question, if the girls he saw at the premises were either fat (as he puts it) or black how should he describe them?   

I have to say you are typical of the modern woke brigade, finding offence where there isn't any, what he posted is in no way racist, if it was we would have done something about it, we do not tolerate that sort of thing on here.

I really am fascinated by the fact that you have such a hard time grasping the difference between saying something you mean and quoting it.
And again: Observing the ethnicity of the people is obviously not racist. I have never claimed this. I have probably stated similar things on this very forum.
Adding the first part of the sentence is, by definition.

[daviemac]

I really am fascinated by the fact that you have such a hard time grasping the difference between saying something you mean and quoting it.
And again: Observing the ethnicity of the people is obviously not racist. I have never claimed this. I have probably stated similar things on this very forum.
Adding the first part of the sentence is, by definition.

Stop making false accusations of racism towards other members, the post is NOT racist, The OP did NOT single out black people, he included others as well, if you can't understand that then that is an issue you need to address with yourself.

Any further post by you on this subject will put you in breach of two rules, one you are making false and malicious accusations towards another member and you will now be ignoring a warning from a mod.

To reiterate so there is no misunderstanding, the post is not racist and you have been warned about future posts on the subject, either of which may lead to you being banned.

[semmlerino]

Stop making false accusations of racism towards other members, the post is NOT racist, The OP did NOT single out black people, he included others as well, if you can't understand that then that is an issue you need to address with yourself.

Any further post by you on this subject will put you in breach of two rules, one you are making false and malicious accusations towards another member and you will now be ignoring a warning from a mod.

To reiterate so there is no misunderstanding, the post is not racist and you have been warned about future posts on the subject, either of which may lead to you being banned.

I knew I was gonna get banned sooner or later the moment I started disagreeing with a mod and that's fine honestly, I realized that I actually have nothing to gain from posting in this forum,  just happy I got to make my point.

I'll just keep my punts to myself and won't have to risk my favourites being overrun. Oh no what torture lmao 

Just because he included another group of people does not mean that the other part can't be racist - there is stilll the inclusion of the racist part, even if he includes 100 other groups of people, that does not matter lmao, I don't know why you would even say that, what logic is that lol, did you not stop to think for like a second before writing this?

The fact that you actually immediately jump to "You must be woke!!!11" (in a punting forum of all things lol) tells me everything I need to know about your cognitive dissonance.

Let me help you out with the actual definition:
racism - prejudice, people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group.

There is no world in which his statement is not racist, how someone is incapable of putting these simple things together is just so funny.  Thought there would be a minimum IQ requirement to be a mod haha

Now, let me add: It's not just you that is low IQ, the original poster is as well...now since I included someone else, I couldn't possibly calling you dumb, right? Do you follow the logic? 

[daviemac]

I knew I was gonna get banned sooner or later the moment I started disagreeing with a mod and that's fine honestly, I realized that I actually have nothing to gain from posting in this forum,  just happy I got to make my point.

It isn't that you are disagreeing with a mod, you are just wrong with your accusation of racism, the two comments in the OP's post are not related. The official stance of this forum is that the post is not racist, you are of course are entitled the your opinion but that opinion will not change the facts.

I have to say that it doesn't surprise me that you have got it so wrong after all the fact you have to resort to personal insults says all anyone needs to know about you.

[semmlerino]

It isn't that you are disagreeing with a mod, you are just wrong with your accusation of racism, the two comments in the OP's post are not related. The official stance of this forum is that the post is not racist, you are of course are entitled the your opinion but that opinion will not change the facts.

I have to say that it doesn't surprise me that you have got it so wrong after all the fact you have to resort to personal insults says all anyone needs to know about you.

First you say  it's not racist because he included another group, now all of a sudden the statements are not related at all - can't seek to make up your mind? If those statements were in fact unrelated it's obviously not racist, but if they are related, as your original post suggests, then it just is, and it just seems incredibly unlikely that he would randomly include "black" right after saying "poor quality" if those were completely unrelated

[daviemac]

First you say  it's not racist because he included another group, now all of a sudden the statements are not related at all - can't seek to make up your mind? If those statements were in fact unrelated it's obviously not racist, but if they are related, as your original post suggests, then it just is, and it just seems incredibly unlikely that he would randomly include "black" right after saying "poor quality" if those were completely unrelated

I'll just give you a couple of weeks break to see if you can calm yourself down a bit and accept when you are wrong. Continue in the same vein when your ban is up and it will become permanent.

[Mattygibbsy]

Suggesting a link between the colour of the skin and the quality actually is, by definition.

Oh bore off you woke fool. Get a life

[Undergrowth]

So what's good now?  I'd love some private dances with ideally a bit of touching, and maybe even the tiniest tease of something more.  Back in London with work next week.

[Momodan38]

So what's good now?  I'd love some private dances with ideally a bit of touching, and maybe even the tiniest tease of something more.  Back in London with work next week.

Recent intel from other members suggest the Rainbow sports bar still has full on contact private lap dances. I haven’t personally been. Other places close by like browns and nags head have zero contact during the private dances. It’s more like a private strip tease.

You can get full on contact dances at the back with the nags, but it’s gonna cost you £200 for 30 mins and the type of contact varies from girl to girl. If you take about a £1k with you late in the evenings, have a chat with the girls before you agree to go the back you should have a great time. It’s not full proof, there’s still a chance you’ll end up with a dud.

Edit - If you just want a relaxing drink, don’t care too much about contact during dances, then avoid the nags. Browns and The Griffin are probably a much better choice.

[Hardluck]

It isn't that you are disagreeing with a mod, you are just wrong with your accusation of racism, the two comments in the OP's post are not related. The official stance of this forum is that the post is not racist, you are of course are entitled the your opinion but that opinion will not change the facts.

I have to say that it doesn't surprise me that you have got it so wrong after all the fact you have to resort to personal insults says all anyone needs to know about you.

Was trying to avoid this but that post came across as a bit racist to me at first as well. I wouldn't have made a fuss and just left it as each to their own or just bad grammar. However the idea that someone could look at a post that seems to equate "poor quality of girls", with being fat or black as being a bit racist is not out there or woke.

[blackmt]

Was trying to avoid this but that post came across as a bit racist to me at first as well. I wouldn't have made a fuss and just left it as each to their own or just bad grammar. However the idea that someone could look at a post that seems to equate "poor quality of girls", with being fat or black as being a bit racist is not out there or woke.

There are some who are quick to shout racism in an attempt to shut down an argument. And on the other side (and for what it's worth just as unhelpful) we have those who cry woke when they hear something they don't like -- it's tired!

[daviemac]

Was trying to avoid this but that post came across as a bit racist to me at first as well. I wouldn't have made a fuss and just left it as each to their own or just bad grammar. However the idea that someone could look at a post that seems to equate "poor quality of girls", with being fat or black as being a bit racist is not out there or woke.

What you think is irrelevant, an official decision has been made that it doesn't not constitute racism, why are continuing with the topic. Feel free to ignore post you don't agree with.

There are some who are quick to shout racism in an attempt to shut down an argument. And on the other side (and for what it's worth just as unhelpful) we have those who cry woke when they hear something they don't like -- it's tired!

Same goes for you, the matter has been dealt with by a moderator so that should be the end of it.

To reiterate, the offical stance of this forum is that the post is NOT racist.

[lougb1]

On another note I see Ron of Inner Circle/ Blacklapdancer  fame is thinking about reforming.

 

[Bellingham]

I'll just give you a couple of weeks break to see if you can calm yourself down a bit and accept when you are wrong. Continue in the same vein when your ban is up and it will become permanent.

I've just stumbled across this and can't believe what I'm reading here.

The initial comment, even if we're trying our best to view it positively, was badly worded and clumsy, if not outright racist, and somehow the person who gets banned is the person who described it as 'pretty racist'... There was nothing woke or outrageous about him thinking a comment like that might be racist. The initial poster of the comment hasn't even clarified the meaning behind what he wrote, but you've immediately jumped to his defence without knowing context, and vilified the person who questioned it?

Presumably the 'fat' comment was related to the poor quality of women he observed? How do you know with certainty that 'Black' wasn't?

I understand sometimes things are taken out of context or misunderstood, and could potentially be what happened here, but the reaction on here to not even allow the discussion and ban him seems ott to me.

[90125]

I've just stumbled across this and can't believe what I'm reading here.

The initial comment, even if we're trying our best to view it positively, was badly worded and clumsy, if not outright racist, and somehow the person who gets banned is the person who described it as 'pretty racist'... There was nothing woke or outrageous about him thinking a comment like that might be racist. The initial poster of the comment hasn't even clarified the meaning behind what he wrote, but you've immediately jumped to his defence without knowing context, and vilified the person who questioned it?

Presumably the 'fat' comment was related to the poor quality of women he observed? How do you know with certainty that 'Black' wasn't?

I understand sometimes things are taken out of context or misunderstood, and could potentially be what happened here, but the reaction on here to not even allow the discussion and ban him seems ott to me.

Why are you now wading in

[Bellingham]

Why are you now wading in

It's an important issue and the exchange (and subsequent ban) above between admin and someone with a legitimate point is not a good look for the forum.

People shouldn't be discouraged from flagging these comments imo.

I don't know what the diversity of the admins on here is like but it says something that all of you can look at this exchange and not see that the guy who got banned had a legitimate point initially. Fair enough the personal insults that followed later shouldn't have been made but were understandable in the circumstances tbh.

[90125]

It's an important issue and the exchange (and subsequent ban) above between admin and someone with a legitimate point is not a good look for the forum.

People shouldn't be discouraged from flagging these comments imo.

I don't know what the diversity of the admins on here is like but it says something that all of you can look at this exchange and not see that the guy who got banned had a legitimate point initially. Fair enough the personal insults that followed later shouldn't have been made but were understandable in the circumstances tbh.

A forum Mod has made a decision and that’s the end of it unless you want a ban as well.

[Bellingham]

A forum Mod has made a decision and that’s the end of it unless you want a ban as well.

Haha how very predictable! I've made my point in a polite and reasonable way, so I'll leave it at that.

Btw by daviemac's logic, you shouldn't have quoted my statement as that apparently means you are saying it yourself.

[daviemac]

Haha how very predictable! I've made my point in a polite and reasonable way, so I'll leave it at that.

Btw by daviemac's logic, you shouldn't have quoted my statement as that apparently means you are saying it yourself.

The post was flagged and there's nothing wrong with that, however a decision was made by the site moderators following that report so that should have been the end of it, it wasn't hence the ban.

Now you have talked yourself into one as well.

Edit

For when you come back let me explain the logic in my statement, IF the post had been deemed to be racist (it isn't), as racist comments have no place on here it would be against the rules therefore it would have been removed. By the fact you quoted it you would have included a statement that was in breach of the rules in your post.

If you can't understand that removing the original would be pointless if we let others quote it then . . . . . .