Who are trying / getting discount from new girls?

[Marmalade]

Most people have agreed it's ridiculous. Don't know what your issue is with me these days but whatever dude.

Rochelle, he’s just bring factual. Your opinion if the OP is a twat is one you’re entitled to make. Speaking as if you represent prossies generally is not. No need to get emotional over it dear.

[Rochelle]

Rochelle, he’s just bring factual. Your opinion if the OP is a twat is one you’re entitled to make. Speaking as if you represent prossies generally is not. No need to get emotional over it dear.

I don't think I was doing that, to be honest.

[BRB22]

won't they get mad

[Heph]

Why?
He doesn't appear to be rude or assumptive.

In response, some have said that for prospective 1/2 hr bookings he's taking the piss. I don't think see that, as long as he's polite and breaks off following a firm, no, if there is one; or leaves alone if there is no response. Offence is usually taken rather than dished out: it's a choice.


And also, from another thread, for this reason:

I saw her at the end of may and agree that she is more natural looking than the aw pics. She is good looking. I put RB on aw 3 hrs for £400 and was a bid surprised when she put a bid. Had a great time with her, when I asked why she had bid when her normal prices are high (not within in my budget) she told me that she has rent to due at the end of month so she will lower prices if asked. 

Yes, I can see that it's for 3 hrs. But imo, the principle is valid, so long as he's polite.

[Saad Hussar]

A long time ago, I used to ask for discounts on almost every punt, and usually got £10-£20 off a regular price of between £80ph-£100ph. This was in the days of personal and agency websites.

Since AW, I've not bothered. Simply because there is much greater choice and access to SPs and you could always find a reasonable price.

I usually go for punts around the £100ph-£125ph. Have paid much more before, but find there was not much gain in quality.

Some of my best punts have been below £100ph. When compared to the range of prices available on AW, it's not worth asking for a discount on punts costing less than £100ph.

[LLPunting]

In response, some have said that for prospective 1/2 hr bookings he's taking the piss. I don't think see that, as long as he's polite and breaks off following a firm, no, if there is one; or leaves alone if there is no response. Offence is usually taken rather than dished out: it's a choice.


And also, from another thread, for this reason:
Yes, I can see that it's for 3 hrs. But imo, the principle is valid, so long as he's polite.

Hmm, dropping rates to meet rent suggest dusty phone or she's got some feckin' expensive habits for the rest of the month.

[Heph]

Hmm, dropping rates to meet rent suggest dusty phone or she's got some feckin' expensive habits for the rest of the month.

Well, the first is a perfectly acceptable pretext: as we all know, dusty phones are most often the result of the opposite to what's currently under discussion - namely: overly ambitious pricing. And this provides good proof enough that there's an acceptable way for two demands to be satisfied that otherwise might not; all for want of 'saving face' and a cheeky but respectful enquiry.


And the other: ...depends on the habit.

[Kinkykate78]

As previously said, for shorter bookings I think most SPs would be offended, but some may be willing to negotiate for the longer ones.

[shagmore]

If you don't ask you won't get, as long as your polite, and leave it at the first no then there should be no issue and I cant see why a Wg would feel insulted.
For me life is to short to worry about £10 or £20 quid. By the time it takes to discuss etc, I can have easily earnt that amount.
Everyone has their own opinion on this, and all are valid, that is why we live in a free country.

[Heph]

As previously said, for shorter bookings I think most SPs would be offended, but some may be willing to negotiate for the longer ones.

There is really no good, convincing reason, for someone to chose to be offended by a respectful enquiry.

Imagine we inflate the published rack rate to famous porn star levels and the rate is a market-beating £300 for 30 mins. If an enquirer politely asks if the SP would be prepared to accept, say, £250... we can probably agree that that's a reasonable request and that the proposed duration is more or less irrelevant at that price-point.

There does comes a point down the pricing scale where that would no longer be so clear cut, and, as shagmore says - life is too short; but I'm not sure where it lies as a general rule of thumb for all of us.

 

[mrfishyfoo]

I don't think I was doing that, to be honest.

Your choice of words was in that case definately ill judged as you certainly gave that impression. 

Suggest you brush up on your grammar before you are definite about anything else on here. 

[mrfishyfoo]

A long time ago, I used to ask for discounts on almost every punt, and usually got £10-£20 off a regular price of between £80ph-£100ph. This was in the days of personal and agency websites.

Since AW, I've not bothered. Simply because there is much greater choice and access to SPs and you could always find a reasonable price.

I usually go for punts around the £100ph-£125ph. Have paid much more before, but find there was not much gain in quality.

Some of my best punts have been below £100ph. When compared to the range of prices available on AW, it's not worth asking for a discount on punts costing less than £100ph.

Then why haven't you shared some reviews of all these punts you've had MrSH. 

[Heph]

Suggest you brush up on your grammar...

The grammar was just fine; only the spelling sucked.

[shagmore]

Had a lass a few weeks back, she was on tour in the local area, was £150 for the hour, was a great punt, she said she would want to see me again whilst she was still in the area, I said yep, would be good but haven't got the money. She propositioned with £120 for the hour, would have been rude to turn it down

[Heph]

Had a lass a few weeks back, she was on tour in the local area, was £150 for the hour, was a great punt, she said she would want to see me again whilst she was still in the area, I said yep, would be good but haven't got the money. She propositioned with £120 for the hour...

Win / win
Money banked; customer retained and hopefully a good time had.

I used to be not at all price-sensitive, but I've lost count of the number of assignations I've avoided making because of a relatively small, but cumulatively valuable difference like that.

[Belgarion]

A long time ago, I used to ask for discounts on almost every punt, and usually got £10-£20 off a regular price of between £80ph-£100ph. This was in the days of personal and agency websites.

Since AW, I've not bothered. Simply because there is much greater choice and access to SPs and you could always find a reasonable price.

I usually go for punts around the £100ph-£125ph. Have paid much more before, but find there was not much gain in quality.

Some of my best punts have been below £100ph. When compared to the range of prices available on AW, it's not worth asking for a discount on punts costing less than £100ph.

A review of these experiences will help the forum

[Rochelle]

Your choice of words was in that case definately ill judged as you certainly gave that impression. 

Suggest you brush up on your grammar before you are definite about anything else on here. 

Ha! My grammar is fine, thanks.

[Rochelle]

The grammar was just fine; only the spelling sucked.

Ha! My spelling is fine.

[Marmalade]

A review of these experiences will help the forum

I wouldn’t hold your breath. 

[Heph]

Ha! My spelling is fine.

definately maybe, not.

...in that wee instance, anyway. But then...

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[Marmalade]

I don’t think anyone seriously gives a fuck about spelling. If a prossie is contributing in a way that benefits punters, she’s a member same as anyone else (though not immune to wind-ups and teasing); if she’s touting, call her out.

[Heph]

I don’t think anyone seriously gives a fuck about spelling. If a prossie is contributing in a way that benefits punters, she’s a member same as anyone else (though not immune to wind-ups and teasing); if she’s touting, call her out.

Hence the post & pic

[scutty brown]

definately maybe, not...................

Defiantly maybe?

[Marmalade]

Defo useful for derailing another idiot thread?

What’s the equivalent of a morning after pill for trolls trying to inseminaste the forum with psychobabble fannyfart threads...

[Rochelle]

Hence the post & pic

I'm sorry, but I dare you to find a post where I've spelt anything incorrectly.

[Belgarion]

I wouldn’t hold your breath. 

These guys really irritate me

[mr.bluesky]

The very reason a lot of working girls won't see Indian or Pakistani blokes because they are always asking for a discount or haggling over the price. If you don't like the price don't visit her. You wouldn't go into a shop that has the price clearly marked on the item and expect discount would you ?  Op Your not Indian or Pakistani by any chance are you 

[Azucar D Artagnan]

The very reason a lot of working girls won't see Indian or Pakistani blokes because they are always asking for a discount or haggling over the price. If you don't like the price don't visit her. You wouldn't go into a shop that has the price clearly marked on the item and expect discount would you ?  Op Your not Indian or Pakistani by any chance are you 

Disagree with this reason . WGs have contradicted themselves in this statements when discussing S.Asian men to me ................ " don't like to see Indian and Pakistanis because they stink of curry and hate women but if i do see them it's easy money as they cum really quickly " Typical WG philosophy that is contra-logical from Pros   

[Marmalade]

I think both reasons apply. In India, haggling over everything is the norm. My local Pakistani grocer is usually happy to haggle over goods near the sell-by date. But they also stuff themselves with curry and garlic and so to our noses they often ‘stink’. (Similarly they sometimes say westerners stink of milk due to overconsumption of milk products.) Also, just my personal experience, Indians seem to wash; but Muslims and Pakistanis often seem less bothered about personal grooming except for the more upper middle class ones.

[Azucar D Artagnan]

I must smell of Green Papaya , Ypioca ,  Acaia and Feijoada 

[Marmalade]

I must smell of Green Papaya , Ypioca ,  Acaia and Feijoada 

Those don’t smell. But the feijoada is an acquired taste for foreigners — especially ones palmed off with the poorer restaurant versions.   

[Heph]

You wouldn't go into a shop that has the price clearly marked on the item and expect discount would you ? 

Eh? Of course you would / could /  can & should.  And it's slightly bizarre that you feel a shop's price ticket is sanctified.

So that's that rhetorical device out, then.

[mr.bluesky]

Eh? Of course you would / could /  can & should.  And it's slightly bizarre that you feel a shop's price ticket is sanctified.

So that's that rhetorical device out, then.

I'd like to know where you shop then if I go into tescos and buy a loaf of bread marked as £1 thats what I expect to pay for it. I  take it that you stand at the checkout and try and barter for a lower price then. 

[Flunt]

I'd like to know where you shop then if I go into tescos and buy a loaf of bread marked as £1 thats what I expect to pay for it. I  take it that you stand at the checkout and try and barter for a lower price then. 

It does depend on what you're paying for, in theory you can haggle at Tesco, although wandering around a supermarket for an age and then trying to quibble over a couple of quid is a bit pointless. If I go to buy something expensive I will be inclined to try and negotiate, although, I tend to find the best deals through t'interweb.

Half hours with pro$$ies isn't going to improve your chances of a decent service and the prospect of being frivolous with £50 instead of £60 seems counter-productive. I would prefer to take my chances with five full priced £60 punts than try to piss about to get six, half-hearted, £50 punts.

[Heph]

I'd like to know where you shop then if I go into tescos and buy a loaf of bread marked as £1 thats what I expect to pay for it. I  take it that you stand at the checkout and try and barter for a lower price then.

Don't be simple: we weren't talking about your Tunnock's tea cakes habit.

[mr.bluesky]

Eh? Of course you would / could /  can & should.  And it's slightly bizarre that you feel a shop's price ticket is sanctified.

So that's that rhetorical device out, then.

So why make a ridiculous  statement as quoted  above about a shops price ticket.

[Heph]

So why make a ridiculous statement as quoted  above about a shops price ticket.

Because there are plenty of retail items in high street shops approximating the value of a decent punt, where it would be perfectly acceptable and worthwhile to ask the manager or owner of they'll accept an offer.

[mr.bluesky]

Because there are plenty of retail items in high street shops approximating the value of a decent punt, where it would be perfectly acceptable and worthwhile to ask the manager or owner of they'll accept an offer.

This is a new one on me  how successful have you been doing this ?

[Heph]

This is a new one on me   how successful have you been doing this ?

Successful enough for it to have been worth the bother.

Why don't you try it and see?
Tip: don't say "You don't do discounts, do you?"

[Marmalade]

I’ve successfully haggled in high street stores for a discount on expensive items. It’s knowing when and how to do it. I don’t think that automatically makes it comparable to haggling with prossies in Britain.

[Heph]

I’ve successfully haggled in high street stores for a discount on expensive items. It’s knowing when and how to do it. I don’t think that automatically makes it comparable to haggling with prossies.

Of course it doesn't, but our friend above dismissed both options out-of-hand.

Also - & I'm keen to underline this; any discussion of price in our hobby should almost certainly avoid projecting the sense that it is haggling. I'd agree with others that this is unlikely to be productive - but intelligently and gracefully done, it could result in a happy win/win for both parties.

[Marmalade]

Of course it doesn't, but our friend above dismissed both options out-of-hand.

And you felt like arguing the toss.    no worries. Just trying to speed it up. 

[mikexxlong]

the only time i have haggled and the haggling with (some) pro$$ie's has been successful  is when having a bunch of 'extras' added on top

using a bit of humor and cheek i managed to have some money knocked off without the whore getting all bent out of shape
 ...,just use your judgment and don't push it ,

if you don't like the rates or can't afford them don't book em or walk away if a parlour. turning up with the view of haggling as if it was a car boot sale might not turn out well

[Tinyopener90]

This dudes the sort of client that escorts would "accidently" make cum during the BJ to avoid sex with. Oral cum speeding skills reserved for the purest twats.

[Heph]

This dudes the sort of client that escorts would "accidently" make cum during the BJ to avoid sex with. Oral cum speeding skills reserved for the purest twats.

Little chance of that working if his pelvic floor control is anything like his cost-control.

[Tinyopener90]

Little chance of that working if his pelvic floor control is anything like his cost-control.

Haha very true indeed. I wouldnt try to haggle personally its rude plus... I have what you would call. Very happy escourt pelvic control. 

[ViperKai]

Many many years ago when I was very new to punting I suggested a lower price to an SP..... She suggested that I get a paper round or saved my pocket money until I had enough to pay the correct price.  Felt like an utter wanker and a complete twat. First and last time I ever did that! Served me right

[Heph]

Many many years ago when I was very new to punting I suggested a lower price to an SP..... She suggested that I get a paper round or saved my pocket money until I had enough to pay the correct price.  Felt like an utter wanker and a complete twat. First and last time I ever did that! Served me right

Choose your moment; don't "haggle", frame and phrase it some other how; be polite and smile, be reconciled that there's a high probability it may not appeal on that occasion.

[MrMatrix]

Many many years ago when I was very new to punting I suggested a lower price to an SP..... She suggested that I get a paper round or saved my pocket money until I had enough to pay the correct price.  Felt like an utter wanker and a complete twat. First and last time I ever did that! Served me right

Thats quite a funny story Viper..

[Marmalade]

They don’t care. Last one I told she was overpriced said she was still getting customers so must be ‘doing something right’. I mentioned others were doing a better job for less money. She just replied if you don’t like the price, don’t book me.

The concept of a fair wage for a fair job is not generally understood any more. Prices for everything are calculated at what the market will pay. There’s a whole science to it in advertising. But prossies just use simple arithmetic. (Arrogance + any money spent on clothes etc) divided by (punters per week) = cost per hour.

Using that equation, if less punters, they must pay more. If more punters, arrogance and needless expenditure increases so cost goes up. If no punters at all: special offer + more tv.