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Offline Corus Boy

More than 200 police in riot vans swooped on premises in Soho, London.

29 people arrested as part of 18-month operation to tackle organised crime.

A dozen women found in squalid rooms have been taken to safe locations.

Officers seized class A drugs, cash and stolen mobile phones from clubs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518613/Soho-brothels-sex-shops-lap-dancing-clubs-raided-crackdown-drugs-people-trafficking.html



Offline smiths

More than 200 police in riot vans swooped on premises in Soho, London.

29 people arrested as part of 18-month operation to tackle organised crime.

A dozen women found in squalid rooms have been taken to safe locations.

Officers seized class A drugs, cash and stolen mobile phones from clubs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518613/Soho-brothels-sex-shops-lap-dancing-clubs-raided-crackdown-drugs-people-trafficking.html

Thanks for the link. We shall see if arrests lead to prosecutions and convictions. What gets me is the police have known what goes on in Soho for decades its hardly a surprise to me if they really have found drugs or stolen goods. As to the women in these squalid premises again we shall see if charges and convictions for trafficking or coercion follow.

146 times more likely to be robbed in Soho than the rest of the UK, thats a figure i have never heard before.

The other thing is the council and local businesses want to redevelop Soho, the late Paul Raymonds estate/companies own many premises and a few months ago evicted a number of WGs who held a protest. I wouldnt be surprised if the police action now is linked to be pressured to act by both these groups. Great if it does result in convictions for drugs, stolen goods and trafficking. :hi:

Offline Corus Boy


Thanks for the link. We shall see if arrests lead to prosecutions and convictions. What gets me is the police have known what goes on in Soho for decades its hardly a surprise to me if they really have found drugs or stolen goods. As to the women in these squalid premises again we shall see if charges and convictions for trafficking or coercion follow.

146 times more likely to be robbed in Soho than the rest of the UK, thats a figure i have never heard before.

The other thing is the council and local businesses want to redevelop Soho, the late Paul Raymonds estate/companies own many premises and a few months ago evicted a number of WGs who held a protest. I wouldnt be surprised if the police action now is linked to be pressured to act by both these groups. Great if it does result in convictions for drugs, stolen goods and trafficking. :hi:


Or the brown envelopes were delivered late this month :)


Offline akauya


146 times more likely to be robbed in Soho than the rest of the UK, thats a figure i have never heard before.


Me neither, sounds like another 'useful fact' concocted by the Daily Mail out of thin air. Unless they print where they got that figure from it means nothing to me  :hi:

Offline smiths

Me neither, sounds like another 'useful fact' concocted by the Daily Mail out of thin air. Unless they print where they got that figure from it means nothing to me  :hi:

Indeed, i NEVER read the Mail anyway unless like in this case a link is given by someone else. :hi:

cjkanye02

Does anyone know if the main Soho walkups were affected?

Offline smiths

Does anyone know if the main Soho walkups were affected?

I dont punt in Soho Walk-Ups but i saw a post that said 20 Berwick Street was boarded up earlier today which would of course match with the raids which took place.

Offline af1231

I think 20 Berweck Street was boarded up before this raid took place.

Hopefully the main walkups stay open but if these girls have been trafficked then thats it for soho I think. Hopefully it does not come to that as I only punt at these walkups at the moment and in my experience none of the girls seem to have been trafficked.

Offline LL

The other thing is the council and local businesses want to redevelop Soho, the late Paul Raymonds estate/companies own many premises and a few months ago evicted a number of WGs who held a protest.

That's right Soho Estates are developing the area.
http://www.sohoestates.co.uk/Current_Projects.aspx
And the recent raids and closures of sex shops, strip clubs and walk-ups come at precisely the same time that this real-estate developer looks to change the image of the area in order to make their property more attractive to certain businesses and clientèle thus maximising their profits.

The council, the developers and the police all have something to gain from this (well perhaps the police just do as they're told).  They certainly haven't given a fuck about the exploited women or the drugs for the last 200 years (on the contrary, this has brought tourists to the area, pushing up property prices and rental rates of business premises in Soho to the highest in the world), so why would they care about them now?!

I thought I knew Soho pretty well.  There were never 22 brothels!  I expect the police have counted the massage parlours, which don't even offer full sex.

Offline smiths

That's right Soho Estates are developing the area.
http://www.sohoestates.co.uk/Current_Projects.aspx
And the recent raids and closures of sex shops, strip clubs and walk-ups come at precisely the same time that this real-estate developer looks to change the image of the area in order to make their property more attractive to certain businesses and clientèle thus maximising their profits.

The council, the developers and the police all have something to gain from this (well perhaps the police just do as they're told).  They certainly haven't given a fuck about the exploited women or the drugs for the last 200 years (on the contrary, this has brought tourists to the area, pushing up property prices and rental rates of business premises in Soho to the highest in the world), so why would they care about them now?!

I thought I knew Soho pretty well.  There were never 22 brothels!  I expect the police have counted the massage parlours, which don't even offer full sex.

Thanks for the link. According to a punter who says he did a walk round earlier today;

Closed at present are; 1 Bateman St.
11 Brewer St.
61 Dean St.
21 Greek St.
52 Greek St.
4 Lisle St.
10 Little Newport.
18 Newport.
27 Peter St. (has a closure notice on the door).
6 Peter St.
34 Romilly.
Tisbury Court.
26 Wardour St. (has a closure notice on the door).
20 Berwick as i mentioned above.

I wont post what he posted were still open, why make it even easier for the police who obviously read this and all punting sites for free intelligence. :hi:


Offline Jimmyredcab



The other thing is the council and local businesses want to redevelop Soho, the late Paul Raymonds estate/companies own many premises and a few months ago evicted a number of WGs who held a protest.

I would bet that is the true reason behind these raids, nothing to do with trafficking, everything to do with property development.

They can close all the walk ups for all I care, sordid shitholes.   :thumbsdown:

The only area of this fine city that's is truly bohemian. Once redevelopment is finished you could be anywhere. Some call it progress, maybe, but I believe it's character assinaition.

I would bet that is the true reason behind these raids, nothing to do with trafficking, everything to do with property development.

They can close all the walk ups for all I care, sordid shitholes.   :thumbsdown:

You say that Jimmy but if they can find excuses for demonising a form of prostitution that has hitherto been regarded as legal, it's a short step to finding ways to criminal forms of prostitution or find excuses to close down operations that you and others may find more appetising; excuses that are hypocritically sugarcoated in terms of public decency. The implications of this potentially affect everyone who uses this board.

As others have said on here, this is another police PR exercise of questionable intent.

If it wasn't, they'd have just got on with it, instead of taking half of London's press and TV cameras with them.

I don't know whether Soho's any more dangerous for the average person than it's been before, but I suspect that crime rates on a per capita basis are pretty low. I worked in W1 for donkeys years, and the tarts, restaurants, porno shops etc all got along OK and pretty much left each other alone and quietly got on with it. Less quiet of course, has been the development of the Rupert Street/Old Compton Street area as a gay hangout, and the caterwauling that goes on at chucking out time has to be heard to be believed.

I had a three day lash up in SOHO a couple of years ago, bearing in mind this was my first adult visit to the Capital.  I absolutely loved the place apart from in your face gaylords.  Sounds like all the big cities are caving in to £££££.   Wankers. 
One thing i will say is whilst in soho i managed to make friends with some british people and they were very accommodating of an ignorant northener :drinks:

The notion that Soho is so dangerous is total bullshit. I grew up in Camden and Soho and I always found suburban high streets at night (e.g. those in places like Willesden, Kilburn and even Hampstead) far more perilous and threatening than Soho has ever been. I'm sure that there have always been a few sharks in Soho looking to roll unwary drunken tourists and so on, but I don't believe that this has ever been an endemic problem.

Offline smiths

The notion that Soho is so dangerous is total bullshit. I grew up in Camden and Soho and I always found suburban high streets at night (e.g. those in places like Willesden, Kilburn and even Hampstead) far more perilous and threatening than Soho has ever been. I'm sure that there have always been a few sharks in Soho looking to roll unwary drunken tourists and so on, but I don't believe that this has ever been an endemic problem.

Indeed, i cant find anything official that backs up your 146 times more likely to be robbed in Soho than anywhere else.

When i used to go to Soho quite a lot to buy my porn in the noughties i mainly went late at night and there were some street WGs and druggies hanging about but i had no problem myself.

Did see a woman being shagged by a guy on the pavement with another guy watching in full public gaze which was amusing once. :D

Offline JamesKW

I hate property developers they seem to just want to close down our nightclubs,stop our fun,use our policeforce to carry out their dirty deeds just so they can build empty flats for foreign investors

Offline SirPhilipXX

Quote from: Convince Me link=topic=20478.mcebtral London is sg310537#msg310537 date=1386315410
The only area of this fine city that's is truly bohemian. Once redevelopment is finished you could be anywhere. Some call it progress, maybe, but I believe it's character assinaition.

Very true. The enormous rise in property values in Central London, caused mainly to a flood of money from foreign investors looking for a safe long-term home for their cash, is prompting developers to offer Soho landowners huge sums for redevelopment sites.
 So bit by bit, characterful old Soho with its sleazy bars, live music clubs, cafes and brothels are being replaced by soulless apartment blocks owned by buy-to-let foreign investors.
The police are only too happy to oblige landowners who simply want to clear out their current tenants so they can sell with vacant possession.
Those who have lived and worked in Soho for years and love it for its vibrant, bohemian atmosphere must be weeping. Once it is gone, it will be gone for ever.
The same thing has happened to Greenwich Village in New York.   

Curious6705

I've never been to Soho for sex - just to visit "fine restaurants", usually when someone else was paying. I've never felt threatened or at risk of being robbed.

I did once visit a cellar joint which looked like a rip off, on my own, out of curiosity. After 5 minutes I said OK I'm leaving now, and was told I couldn't leave - at which point I laughed and walked out ...

Offline smiths

I've never been to Soho for sex - just to visit "fine restaurants", usually when someone else was paying. I've never felt threatened or at risk of being robbed.

I did once visit a cellar joint which looked like a rip off, on my own, out of curiosity. After 5 minutes I said OK I'm leaving now, and was told I couldn't leave - at which point I laughed and walked out ...

That reminds me of the time i had to fight my way out of a clip joint in my youth. What amazes me is they still exist, the police obviously know about them yet they just allow them to continue ripping people off. And this is the sheer hypocrisy of the police where punting is concerned in my view. In one breath they allow brothels and clip joints to operate, in the next they condemn them publicly sometimes with press collusion.

IF there has been illegal drugs, stolen goods and trafficked/coerced women working against their wills and this is proven by convictions then thats a good job done in this case by the police. It in no way means ALL Soho WGs have been trafficked or been coerced though of course. I have zero interest in Walk-Ups but many punters do, lets see what the facts turn out to be about these raids. ;)

Offline LL

That reminds me of the time i had to fight my way out of a clip joint in my youth. What amazes me is they still exist, the police obviously know about them yet they just allow them to continue ripping people off. And this is the sheer hypocrisy of the police where punting is concerned in my view. In one breath they allow brothels and clip joints to operate, in the next they condemn them publicly sometimes with press collusion.

I agree.  As you probably know, there's a Metropolitan Police station on Peter Street, which, before these raids, had brothels operating either side of it, literally a couple of doors away.

Offline coolfriend2580

More than 200 police in riot vans swooped on premises in Soho, London.

29 people arrested as part of 18-month operation to tackle organised crime.

A dozen women found in squalid rooms have been taken to safe locations.

Officers seized class A drugs, cash and stolen mobile phones from clubs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518613/Soho-brothels-sex-shops-lap-dancing-clubs-raided-crackdown-drugs-people-trafficking.html

Probably they have evaded the taxes...Osborne is not happy again ;=)


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