Bree_ London - I didnt get far

[jl1991]

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I leave this as neutral as i didnt actually get to the point of  meeting her, but put this as more of a warning/advice for anyone wanting to meet her.

so im yet to leave a review on UKpunting, i wanted to change this, ive met a couple girls in essex but never reviewed, this is my only chance to meet a decent WG so thought id go expensive.

I messaged her on whatsapp and get a very sharp message from her telling me that she wont see me due to my age and that it is unprofessional to message her, i asked her what i did wrong, she said had i called maybe it would have been different.

Luckily i had texted her from another phone that morning and she was more receptive, even though, you know, i had texted her....... consistency is key.

After some quick back and fourths with Bree (over text still) and agreeing to meeting she cut things off, if you want to meet her dont come across nervous and dont mention your age, she appears to have quite the chip on her shoulder due to younger people cancelling, i can imagine it being frustrating but still...

so the conversation went something like this; i first texted bree explaining the time i was looking to meet her and which day, asking if i could request an outfit too, she agrees but says that i will need to speak to her on the phone first, so that evening i give her a call.

the call goes ok, i explain that i am nervous as i dont usually do this thing, but mention i am only 28 and wanted to point it out as she likes older guys, she asks if i can leave a deposit as safety in case i cancel etc, i agree.

20 minutes later and no email to leave deposit so i message and ask for it, she then sends it over and confirms i can do it on amazon vouchers.

so im browsing through her account and notice that she prefers early morning sex, my booking is for 5pm but i can get into the city early so ask what her earliest booking is, she sends back "hi, so you would like to change the time?", i tell her i tried finding her working hours (couldnt see it on her AW page or on her site), if she can tell me and ill let her know. being that this is almost a week in advance and about half hour before i had the call i thought it would be ok.

i get back "you made a booking for the next week for 5pm, i agreed and put the date in my diary and less than 30mins later you are trying to changeit. Older mature men who can organise themselves are my thing, if you dont know what time you can book, dont call an escort and book a time.

*sigh*... im sure typing my name into icalendar wasnt that big of a deal, my age has nothing to do with whether i can organise myself, was kind of insulted by that, especially with my line of work... i may have been wrong but i couldn't see any times on her page or website, my mistake if they were, but if youre going to get so annoyed so quickly at the sheer mention of a reschedule im glad i didnt commit.

i mark it as neutral as i didnt meet her but i think this is a decent warning for anyone thinking of meeting her, she was professional for the most part bar the small dig, however shes got a serious issue with younger people, had i said i was 40 and asked for a reschedule id put money on her being fine with it, but whatever, onto the next one, never know, i may actually meet someone next week!

[Brazilian Martian]

Sounds like a negative to me imo

Also lets not forget this prossie has form as she has been banned from this forum for threatening Admin  she's a GRADE A BITCH

Hi, Bree here.

In response to your three negative points:

1. Kissing and me receiving oral.
Receiving oral is not and has never been on my likes list. It is unusual, but I have a submissive kink and much prefer to give (as you witnessed!) I am clearly not lazy or evasive- you have commented rough sex, full deepthroat, cum on face and asking for more etc- I love sex and I prefer to give as much as I can rather than lie there and be licked. I have refused bookings in the past when the gent has said him giving oral is a dealbreaker. I have a massively sensitive clit and too much direct stimulation freaks me out a bit. I should not need to even explain this, as I don't have receiving oral on my likes list. So your above point makes reference to a service I do not offer, it has never been on my list. It isnt even "(at discretion)". Only indulging in services that get me off too is a big part of escorting for me. Your point is "she didnt like when I tried to push for a service she doesn't offer on her profile". Anal sex isn't on my likes list either, and similarly if you had tried it anyway I would be uncomfortable. The list is there for a reason and I cannot be faulted because you didn't read it. I dont know if not kissing you is correct. Two years ago so who knows... but I love kissing, love sloppy DFK and have had no problem kissing. Kissing is an important part of sex to me as I enjoy intimacy. I don't think I would have lasted this long at this rate if I didn't kiss. It doesn't sit right with me that you say I didn't kiss you, but you still enjoyed yourself and saw enough VFM in a £400 no kissing punt, to call and try to book me again at a later date(?)

2. My attitude towards you after half way through the date you decided you were going to cancel half the time on the spot by lying about an "emergency"
If you are a self employed person and at the last moment things get cancelled, it is difficult to then feel amicable towards that person, which may explain some of my reservations. As many members have said, it isn't my fault that you decided to cancel half the time. If you are a builder and someone books you for a big job and then cancels half the work and money after you arrive on site, the next time they call for another job you reserve the right to refuse them. In fact, you'd be a fool to take another job from someone unreliable.

3. Refusal to see you again
Again, this isn't a negative about the date itself.
You would have been one of my first ever ever clients. If you booked me two years ago I hadnt yet even had a single feedback on adultwork, if you were not my first client you would have been one of my first three. Although I am sexually confident, I was inexperienced with dealing with clients. If someone was smelly, I write a note on their contact number after the date and if they call again, I refused the booking. If they asked why, I would tell them the truth. This is exactly what I did with you. All that me refusing your second booking proves, is that I am happy to turn down bookings if they dont work for me and that the enjoyment is as important as the ££. I want to have good sex and enjoy myself with guys I get along with in bed. Why would I make an "excuse" not to take your money? If I was a punter I would rather be refused by the lady because she isnt comfortable, and take my notes elsewhere, than have her do a bad job of faking it. Which begs the question again- I was outcall only so you needed to book a hotel on top of my rate (which is at the top end of aw), and there are a multitude of cheaper, and in your opinion more attractive ladies, who also incall... and months had passed- so why on earth did you call to book me again(?) If it was so "neutral" an experience?

I take a little and often approach rather than a pile it high sell it cheap approach. It works for me as I am part time, incall from my home and cant have lots of gents coming in and out, and I am honry twice a day at most, so I see less people. In order to have the same standard of living as the ladies who choose to see 5 or 6 people a day, my rates are higher. I understand this will not suit everyone, but it suits me.

By your own dates, you would have been someone I met in my first week working on adultwork, going from a normal civilian girl- to meeting strangers in hotels. Although I dont remember this particular date, I have to admit the first few times as a newbie probably weren't great. With that in mind, I would not say how I was in my first week of work (with a first time gent who cancelled half the time), is an accurate reflection of how I am now.
I would not review a restaurant on a meal I ate two years ago as it serves no purpose. Ditto this review coming two years after the booking took place(!) I am also better at matching myself to people I feel I will be compatible with. Being a little bit choosy so I can get my rocks off too, shouldn't count against me.

"I started talking dirty to her saying I was going to give her a creamy load on her face - credit to her she asked for it, she begged in fact! I eventually popped and it spurted onto her forehead and lips, I normally cum bucket loads but she'd got a good one out of me in Round 1, so it wasn't the explosive ending I'd hoped for. She muttered "awww, I wanted some more""
Ha! First week on the job- I cant say I'm feeling too disappointed with myself! what I lacked in experience then I made up for in enthusiasm.

This was your first booking (and one of my first,) and with that in mind, no hard feelings and a Merry Christmas to you. Just wanted to politely explain my side.

Best of luck,
Bree x

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[jl1991]

Sounds like a negative to me imo

Also lets not forget this prossie has form as she has been banned from this forum for threatening Admin  she's a GRADE A BITCH

I think might be going blind but where’s the threat? I would put it as a negative but I feel that neautral is already not positive, and for the fact I didn’t meet her I think it warrants a neautral over a negative, but I am new to this.

Currently looking for a decent, preferably English, preferably white, bimbo around the 150-200 mark in London, don’t have any recommendations do you?

[king tarzan]

She doesn't see asian men and I wouldn't want to see her at £300..

[NotThePrimeMinister]

OP,

First of all, I may be paranoid and you are clearly entitled to tell me to bugger off and mind my own business, but I think it's never wise to reveal too much about yourself, eg your exact age (your username!). I felt like pointing it out especially because you say you are new to this.

To be honest, I think your review is not very fair and does not help fellow punters a great deal.

This prossie says very clearly on her profile that she prefers to see older clients, and mentions maturity and organisation in bookings as her reasons.

Available to gentlemen aged 30 years+. I will.occasionally make an exception if you are younger but you will need to be mature and organised in booking.

I don't think it's fair to criticise a prossie for something she's clear on in her profile.

She associates younger men with disorganisation. You first booked her for a time, then immediately wanted to change that time. You basically confirmed her prejudice that young = disorganised. Can't really blame her for her reaction.

I'd do the same with a prossie. If a regular cancels on me once, no big deal. But if a new girl I have just booked proposes a new time right after I have booked her, alarm bells go off and I do wonder if she could be a time waster.

@Brazilian Martian, not sure I follow why you quoted that reply to the other neutral review. The prossie actually comes out rather well  from what you quoted. The punter (of that review, not the OP this thread) rubbished her for not providing a service which is not in her list (RO), made a long booking then cut it short (not her fault!) , and still wanted to see her again (so it wasn't too bad a punt!).

The question is really for admin, but the fact that she threatened him might change people's minds about whether she's worth seeing. I don't know what happened so can't comment.

Happy punting to all!

PS OP, I didn't understand a few things:

You paid a deposit via gift card? Did you buy it cash or online (not anonymous)? Did she give it back or did you lose the money? If she kept the money after cancelling straight away then that was bitchy!

After you proposed a new time, did she cancel or tell you off but was willing to go ahead anyway?

Did you whatsapp her from your private phone (again, watch out for privacy!)? Maybe she wanted to be contacted by text and not WhatsApp? I have never used WhatsApp as that would require either using my private number (a big no no) or setting up a punting phone with data access and a separate WhatsApp account.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

Currently looking for a decent, preferably English, preferably white, bimbo around the 150-200 mark in London, don’t have any recommendations do you?

It is up to admin to decide if this should be moved to a separate thread, but:

OP, what do you mean by bimbo? Do you want a giggly girl that's hot but doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box? Do you have preferences in terms of London areas? Any specific service? Vanilla gfe, hard core pse?

If you fancied Bree you would have loved Ophilia, also cheaper, but she retired a couple of weeks ago - shame!

[Brazilian Martian]

OP,

First of all, I may be paranoid and you are clearly entitled to tell me to bugger off and mind my own business, but I think it's never wise to reveal too much about yourself, eg your exact age (your username!). I felt like pointing it out especially because you say you are new to this.

To be honest, I think your review is not very fair and does not help fellow punters a great deal.

This prossie says very clearly on her profile that she prefers to see older clients, and mentions maturity and organisation in bookings as her reasons.

I don't think it's fair to criticise a prossie for something she's clear on in her profile.

She associates younger men with disorganisation. You first booked her for a time, then immediately wanted to change that time. You basically confirmed her prejudice that young = disorganised. Can't really blame her for her reaction.

I'd do the same with a prossie. If a regular cancels on me once, no big deal. But if a new girl I have just booked proposes a new time right after I have booked her, alarm bells go off and I do wonder if she could be a time waster.

@Brazilian Martian, not sure I follow why you quoted that reply to the other neutral review. The prossie actually comes out rather well  from what you quoted. The punter (of that review, not the OP this thread) rubbished her for not providing a service which is not in her list (RO), made a long booking then cut it short (not her fault!) , and still wanted to see her again (so it wasn't too bad a punt!).

The question is really for admin, but the fact that she threatened him might change people's minds about whether she's worth seeing. I don't know what happened so can't comment.

Happy punting to all!

PS OP, I didn't understand a few things:

You paid a deposit via gift card? Did you buy it cash or online (not anonymous)? Did she give it back or did you lose the money? If she kept the money after cancelling straight away then that was bitchy!

After you proposed a new time, did she cancel or tell you off but was willing to go ahead anyway?

Did you whatsapp her from your private phone (again, watch out for privacy!)? Maybe she wanted to be contacted by text and not WhatsApp? I have never used WhatsApp as that would require either using my private number (a big no no) or setting up a punting phone with data access and a separate WhatsApp account.

I quoted her so people can click the link and see that she has been banned for threatening Admin.

[LLPunting]

OP,
The way you describe these events basically makes you out as a dick.  Make your choices and stick to them, if the SP isn't interested then move on.  Being a petulant child with obsessive behaviour isn't going to win them over and persisting amounts to harassment.  Changing your mind, being hesitant and uncertain all builds up a picture of a client who can't be relied on and SPs have to deal with flakes like this constantly when they want certainty for their diary.  They aren't hysterical groupies gagging for your dick they are first and foremost after making bank every day they work.
Bree may not be the most accommodating SP but there will be many more who aren't.  You will end up wasting a crap ton of your time "reviewing" every SP who doesn't want to take a booking.  These are the ones to be thankful for.  You can bitch and moan about the ones who accept your booking then let you down or ghost you once you arrive.

[Strikar]

I had an good experience with her last year, didn't bother with the review as she is well reviewed and her website has enough pics and videos to judge what you'll get.

Good and was nice to tick her off the HL but not worth the money for me personally for a return visit, she obviously likes the older and richer gent

[mrhappypants]

jl1991,

Thanks for your review and I think your neutral is well judged.  I think you learned some stuff from your experience and in my personal opinion

1) NEVER, ever, EVER pay a deposit.  Paying for sex is NOT a legally recognised transaction and you have no protection whatsoever is she decides to block you and keep your money.  You wouldn't pay cash up front if you were scoring drugs; this is the same.   

2) I have had two SP's ask me for my whatsapp account in the last two months including one yesterday.  I think some punters are forgetting that unless they go to the trouble of setting up a WhatsAPP account for their nic name then there is a real likelihood of disclosing your identity - by which I mean you could find out everything about my real identity with my whatsapp account in about 10 seconds.

3) Don't move appointments.  I suspect punters and SP's are as bad as each other (and VERY bad in general) for fucking up appointments and wasting each others time.  A lot of my learning as a punter has been about how to look like someone who is absolutely going to turn up on time for a scheduled appointment and how to manage SP's being fucking unreliable.  I assume SP's are flakey; I am sure they do the same the other way around.  I would guess a poorly organised SP (porn_Arina) looses 50% of her bookings to no shows.  The REALLY organised ones (Ellie Rose) may get this down but I would guess not below 10% which is a lot of money.   Any sign you are flakey and you should expect to be dropped; there are plenty more cocks on the street.

4) Your neutral cautions other punters without being a warning.  It is tricky to get this right.  In particular, we should not be warning about SP's without good evidence that they are trading dishonestly.  As a personal example, my negative yesterday for Lucky Lucy was marginal; she might still be a great punt.  I gave the negative because I felt like she was trying to scam me (I have not had an SP refuse return of the fee for an unused extra before) but perhaps she had an honest concern that I might steal her money?

[magnetico]

Did you leave a deposit or not?

[jl1991]

OP,

First of all, I may be paranoid and you are clearly entitled to tell me to bugger off and mind my own business, but I think it's never wise to reveal too much about yourself, eg your exact age (your username!). I felt like pointing it out especially because you say you are new to this.

To be honest, I think your review is not very fair and does not help fellow punters a great deal.

This prossie says very clearly on her profile that she prefers to see older clients, and mentions maturity and organisation in bookings as her reasons.

I don't think it's fair to criticise a prossie for something she's clear on in her profile.

She associates younger men with disorganisation. You first booked her for a time, then immediately wanted to change that time. You basically confirmed her prejudice that young = disorganised. Can't really blame her for her reaction.

I'd do the same with a prossie. If a regular cancels on me once, no big deal. But if a new girl I have just booked proposes a new time right after I have booked her, alarm bells go off and I do wonder if she could be a time waster.

@Brazilian Martian, not sure I follow why you quoted that reply to the other neutral review. The prossie actually comes out rather well  from what you quoted. The punter (of that review, not the OP this thread) rubbished her for not providing a service which is not in her list (RO), made a long booking then cut it short (not her fault!) , and still wanted to see her again (so it wasn't too bad a punt!).

The question is really for admin, but the fact that she threatened him might change people's minds about whether she's worth seeing. I don't know what happened so can't comment.

Happy punting to all!

PS OP, I didn't understand a few things:

You paid a deposit via gift card? Did you buy it cash or online (not anonymous)? Did she give it back or did you lose the money? If she kept the money after cancelling straight away then that was bitchy!

After you proposed a new time, did she cancel or tell you off but was willing to go ahead anyway?

Did you whatsapp her from your private phone (again, watch out for privacy!)? Maybe she wanted to be contacted by text and not WhatsApp? I have never used WhatsApp as that would require either using my private number (a big no no) or setting up a punting phone with data access and a separate WhatsApp account.

How is it unfair? I didn’t put negative or positive, merely a detail on what happened and a word of warning for others that want to see her along with how you should approach it.  I said she was professional and I am actually at the age she accepts, but she mentions older Guys so much that I wanted to just bring it up to get reassurance that I won’t get sent away at the door etc.

TL;DR of my review, make sure you know what time you want, don’t reschedule and don’t mention age, or she’ll 180.

No I didn’t get a chance to pay the deposit as the mention of time was during this chat we were having, I hadn’t even told her I definitely wanted to change, when asked if I wanted to change time I just said something on the lines of ““well I just want to know your working times as I can’t find them”.

No she outright cancelled, said she wouldn’t change her mind either.

I have two numbers, I texted off one and whatsapped off another, both messages were responded to much differently, she never mentions no WhatsApp, just a preference to not being contacted by message, again my mistake and why I wouldn’t put this as a negative and more of a neutral review observation and public announcement. I blocked her on WhatsApp after messaging her and the number is barely used. She would have only seen my number, no access to any other of my info.

Thanks for the advice btw

[jl1991]

It is up to admin to decide if this should be moved to a separate thread, but:

OP, what do you mean by bimbo? Do you want a giggly girl that's hot but doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box? Do you have preferences in terms of London areas? Any specific service? Vanilla gfe, hard core pse?

If you fancied Bree you would have loved Ophilia, also cheaper, but she retired a couple of weeks ago - shame!

Hmmm, blonde, fake tits, just the kind of pormstar look with decent lingerienreally, it’s hard to explain my type.

I posted in the discussion thread with some I was looking at, maybe check that out and let me know, it has more info on what I’m looking for and age and location etc (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=203673.0)

[jl1991]

Did you leave a deposit or not?

Nah didn’t get a chance to, it was during that chat that I asked about times and the earliest she does

[jl1991]

OP,
The way you describe these events basically makes you out as a dick.  Make your choices and stick to them, if the SP isn't interested then move on.  Being a petulant child with obsessive behaviour isn't going to win them over and persisting amounts to harassment.  Changing your mind, being hesitant and uncertain all builds up a picture of a client who can't be relied on and SPs have to deal with flakes like this constantly when they want certainty for their diary.  They aren't hysterical groupies gagging for your dick they are first and foremost after making bank every day they work.
Bree may not be the most accommodating SP but there will be many more who aren't.  You will end up wasting a crap ton of your time "reviewing" every SP who doesn't want to take a booking.  These are the ones to be thankful for.  You can bitch and moan about the ones who accept your booking then let you down or ghost you once you arrive.

I don’t believe I bitched or moaned, I mentioned what happened, said she was professional and left it at that with a warning/advice for others wanting to see her, I didn’t put a negative did I?

She wouldn’t have know I messaged her on text and WhatsApp, they were two different numbers messaged differently, I didn’t notice she had messaged me on text by the time I messaged her on WhatsApp as I forgot to check my texts, I had notifications for her number switched off, I wouldn’t have whatsapped her had I known she’d messaged me on text, she was also very polite on text and it started off quite well, the complete opposite on the WhatsApp chat.

I admit I shouldn’t have rescheduled, but I never actually asked to change, just that I wanted to know times. I never said yes to changing times when she asked me.

[jl1991]

I had an good experience with her last year, didn't bother with the review as she is well reviewed and her website has enough pics and videos to judge what you'll get.

Good and was nice to tick her off the HL but not worth the money for me personally for a return visit, she obviously likes the older and richer gent

I’m jealous, money isn’t an issue, I just messed up with the reschedule, she’s by far my most wanted booking, guess it’ll never happen now!

[jl1991]

jl1991,

Thanks for your review and I think your neutral is well judged.  I think you learned some stuff from your experience and in my personal opinion

1) NEVER, ever, EVER pay a deposit.  Paying for sex is NOT a legally recognised transaction and you have no protection whatsoever is she decides to block you and keep your money.  You wouldn't pay cash up front if you were scoring drugs; this is the same.   

2) I have had two SP's ask me for my whatsapp account in the last two months including one yesterday.  I think some punters are forgetting that unless they go to the trouble of setting up a WhatsAPP account for their nic name then there is a real likelihood of disclosing your identity - by which I mean you could find out everything about my real identity with my whatsapp account in about 10 seconds.

3) Don't move appointments.  I suspect punters and SP's are as bad as each other (and VERY bad in general) for fucking up appointments and wasting each others time.  A lot of my learning as a punter has been about how to look like someone who is absolutely going to turn up on time for a scheduled appointment and how to manage SP's being fucking unreliable.  I assume SP's are flakey; I am sure they do the same the other way around.  I would guess a poorly organised SP (porn_Arina) looses 50% of her bookings to no shows.  The REALLY organised ones (Ellie Rose) may get this down but I would guess not below 10% which is a lot of money.   Any sign you are flakey and you should expect to be dropped; there are plenty more cocks on the street.

4) Your neutral cautions other punters without being a warning.  It is tricky to get this right.  In particular, we should not be warning about SP's without good evidence that they are trading dishonestly.  As a personal example, my negative yesterday for Lucky Lucy was marginal; she might still be a great punt.  I gave the negative because I felt like she was trying to scam me (I have not had an SP refuse return of the fee for an unused extra before) but perhaps she had an honest concern that I might steal her money?

Hey!

1. Don’t worry I didn’t do it anyway, I was unsure whether I wanted to do it when she asked

2. Don’t worry my WhatsApp has very little info on a phone I only use for WhatsApp, it has just my first name and my number

3. Noted, I realised my mistake the second I did it, I just assumed it was early enough that it wouldn’t be an issue, I’ve learned

4.so a neutral should only be if we believe we think they’re reading dishonestly? I honestly thought I’d put this in the correct section but if so then I do apologise.

Cheers for the feedback

[NotThePrimeMinister]

OP, I think your review is unfair because the prossie acted reasonably and consistently with what she publishes on her site. She said she prefers older clients because they're more organised. You acted nervously, probably came across as unsure, proposed to change a time right after booking her, and asked her what her working hours are AFTER having already booked a slot!

Cancellations can happen. Most decent prossies tend to be understanding of a regular who cancels once because of a true emergency, but must screen out time wasters. Your behaviour signalled the chances you were a time waster were high. You may have not been, but these ladies must screen time wasters somehow ; this seems like an imperfect but totally reasonable way to do so. Like I said, I apply a similar approach when screening WGs.

This is my humble opinion. To each their own - I couldn't really care less about convincing you, I just wanted to explain why it's my opinion.

The final decision is of course admin's, and he or other more seasoned members will correct me if I'm wrong, but I agree a neutral is a warning to punters, and should be used for cases where the experience was a bit meh (eg hot but mechanical, OKish but wouldn't go back, etc).

If I had been you, I would have posted either nothing at all or a comment, not a review. Something saying : guys, what she writes on her profile about preferring older punters is true, so either lie about your age (if you can pass for old enough) or ask her, and don't appear undecided or she'll not want to see you. Probably I'd have written nothing at all because none of this is new information which is not available clearly on her site.

A punter seeing 3 positives and 2 neutrals might think she's a bit hit or miss. However, if you read the reviews both neutrals are unwarranted - this is why these 2 neutrals don't, IMHO, help fellow punters : you shouldn't have reviewed her at all IMHO, and the other punter rubbished her for not providing a service she never said she would, but he wanted to see her again. How can it be a neutral if a girl is expensive but the punter wants to see her again? I have written reviews where I say: I give this girl a negative but you might like her if X Y Z are your thing, or viceversa. But this is different.


As for recommendations:

OP, you might appreciate Olivia Rose. I have reviewed her recently. I gave her a negative but you would probably appreciate the type more than me. She's £250, though.

I know you said white and British, but if you still want to scratch a chocolate itch, these two have been on my HL for a while. I haven't seen them, so can't comment directly.

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Black, French, petite, much cheaper than Bree, fake boobs and natural bush, face seems prettier than Bree's (seems: partially hidden).

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American, skinny, natural but tiny boobs. Offers both GFE and (for a higher price) sub.

[mrhappypants]

4.so a neutral should only be if we believe we think they’re reading dishonestly? I honestly thought I’d put this in the correct section but if so then I do apologise.

Well this is only my opinion but I think you got it right.  Bree did not do anything dishonest or underhand.  The request for a deposit is not something I would ever agree to but that is just a personal opinion. 

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For what it is worth the guidance is as follows.

The overall rule is “your review, your rating.”

Your rating is your recommendation to other punters about whether to visit.  Ratings are summarised in aggregate beneath posts that include the AW link included in your review.  Ultimately the impact of your rating on the aggregate will be the only part of your review readers may see - ''rate accordingly.''

Give a '''positive''' rating if you want to unequivocally recommend the provider to other punters.  If you would repeat the punt as it was, or plan to revisit, you should probably give a positive rating. Note B&S bookings should not be recorded as a positive rating against original profile, even if you had a good experience.

Give a '''neutral''' rating when you have reservations about recommending the provider to other punters. Describe your reservations in your review.

Give a '''negative''' rating as a warning to other punters about the provider.  There is a range of opinion about how you should treat dishonesty, misrepresented services, fake pictures and poor value in terms of the overall rating. In these instances, pointing out how you arrived at your rating will leave the punter better informed about whether they want to visit.

[LLPunting]

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[mrhappypants]

NTPM +1 

Hmmmn, well personally I think the request for a deposit justifies a review and a neutral.  I would certainly regard it as a caution about visiting her.

[NotThePrimeMinister]

Mr Happy pants, I respectfully disagree

None of the 5 other UKP members who saw her (4 who reviewed, one who didn't) were asked for a deposit. Apparently she only asked for one because the booking was outside her usual criteria (younger client).

Think of it from the whore's point of view.
She doesn't want clients who belong to a certain category because she thinks so many of those are time wasters. She asks for a deposit to filter out the time wasters. The last such client had the very same behaviour (disorganised, potential time waster) which she dislikes and which prompts her to either refuse that category of clients, or to ask for a deposit.
What would you do if you were the cocksucker instead of the cock-suckee (is that even a word?   ) in that situation? Would you relax your filtering criteria or tighten them?

FWIW, I have never paid a deposit and I think I never will. I might consider it if there were a well-reviewed girl, who I really wanted to see, and who might have reservations about my race age or whatever. I might do it in those cases to show I'm serious. But it would have to be for a truly exceptional prossie. Had Bree asked me for a deposit, I would have told her to get lost.

Anyway, our opinions are of limited importance: to make the forum useful to fellow punters, what matters is to give them as much info as possible so they can decide by themselves. In this spirit, I'd say that Bree is a great shag for those who:

Like her looks. Pics are accurate - what you see is what you get.

Can stomach the price.

Have the patience to scroll through all the shit she has on her website, and are fine with her list of services / likes / dislikes

Are not put off by the nonsense she writes on her site and twitter (in person she's not the braindead Essex bimbo she seems from the sites).

To put things in context, I'd say Bree was among the top 6 shags of my life: in no particular order, 2 civvies, Ophilia (just retired), Julia of Max Angels (retired) and Ashley also of Max Angels.

Not going to comment the civvies, but the WGs are all very different so not sure if this helps anyone. I go for relatively vanilla GFE services. Julia and Ashley had fake boobs, the other 2 don't. Ophilia and Bree are both skinny black, very pretty and with natural assets - a rather unique combination which is a great turn on for me but may do nothing for you.

The key thing they have in common is that they listened to what I told them I liked and disliked, and acted accordingly. Guys, always speak up! Don't be shy. Prossies can't read our minds! It sounds banal, it shouldn't be much of a skill, but it's amazing how many prossies are useless at listening and just follow some kind of script! To me, that's the difference between an OKish punt and a memorable one. More than breast size or gag reflex. YMMV, of course.

[johnplatano]

Mr Happy pants, I respectfully disagree

None of the 5 other UKP members who saw her (4 who reviewed, one who didn't) were asked for a deposit. Apparently she only asked for one because the booking was outside her usual criteria (younger client).

Think of it from the whore's point of view.
She doesn't want clients who belong to a certain category because she thinks so many of those are time wasters. She asks for a deposit to filter out the time wasters. The last such client had the very same behaviour (disorganised, potential time waster) which she dislikes and which prompts her to either refuse that category of clients, or to ask for a deposit.
What would you do if you were the cocksucker instead of the cock-suckee (is that even a word?   ) in that situation? Would you relax your filtering criteria or tighten them?

FWIW, I have never paid a deposit and I think I never will. I might consider it if there were a well-reviewed girl, who I really wanted to see, and who might have reservations about my race age or whatever. I might do it in those cases to show I'm serious. But it would have to be for a truly exceptional prossie. Had Bree asked me for a deposit, I would have told her to get lost.

Anyway, our opinions are of limited importance: to make the forum useful to fellow punters, what matters is to give them as much info as possible so they can decide by themselves. In this spirit, I'd say that Bree is a great shag for those who:

Like her looks. Pics are accurate - what you see is what you get.

Can stomach the price.

Have the patience to scroll through all the shit she has on her website, and are fine with her list of services / likes / dislikes

Are not put off by the nonsense she writes on her site and twitter (in person she's not the braindead Essex bimbo she seems from the sites).

To put things in context, I'd say Bree was among the top 6 shags of my life: in no particular order, 2 civvies, Ophilia (just retired), Julia of Max Angels (retired) and Ashley also of Max Angels.

Not going to comment the civvies, but the WGs are all very different so not sure if this helps anyone. I go for relatively vanilla GFE services. Julia and Ashley had fake boobs, the other 2 don't. Ophilia and Bree are both skinny black, very pretty and with natural assets - a rather unique combination which is a great turn on for me but may do nothing for you.

The key thing they have in common is that they listened to what I told them I liked and disliked, and acted accordingly. Guys, always speak up! Don't be shy. Prossies can't read our minds! It sounds banal, it shouldn't be much of a skill, but it's amazing how many prossies are useless at listening and just follow some kind of script! To me, that's the difference between an OKish punt and a memorable one. More than breast size or gag reflex. YMMV, of course.

Why do you care so much

[Dopedj]

Mr Happy pants, I respectfully disagree

None of the 5 other UKP members who saw her (4 who reviewed, one who didn't) were asked for a deposit. Apparently she only asked for one because the booking was outside her usual criteria (younger client).

Think of it from the whore's point of view.
She doesn't want clients who belong to a certain category because she thinks so many of those are time wasters. She asks for a deposit to filter out the time wasters. The last such client had the very same behaviour (disorganised, potential time waster) which she dislikes and which prompts her to either refuse that category of clients, or to ask for a deposit.
What would you do if you were the cocksucker instead of the cock-suckee (is that even a word?   ) in that situation? Would you relax your filtering criteria or tighten them?

FWIW, I have never paid a deposit and I think I never will. I might consider it if there were a well-reviewed girl, who I really wanted to see, and who might have reservations about my race age or whatever. I might do it in those cases to show I'm serious. But it would have to be for a truly exceptional prossie. Had Bree asked me for a deposit, I would have told her to get lost.

Anyway, our opinions are of limited importance: to make the forum useful to fellow punters, what matters is to give them as much info as possible so they can decide by themselves. In this spirit, I'd say that Bree is a great shag for those who:

Like her looks. Pics are accurate - what you see is what you get.

Can stomach the price.

Have the patience to scroll through all the shit she has on her website, and are fine with her list of services / likes / dislikes

Are not put off by the nonsense she writes on her site and twitter (in person she's not the braindead Essex bimbo she seems from the sites).

To put things in context, I'd say Bree was among the top 6 shags of my life: in no particular order, 2 civvies, Ophilia (just retired), Julia of Max Angels (retired) and Ashley also of Max Angels.

Not going to comment the civvies, but the WGs are all very different so not sure if this helps anyone. I go for relatively vanilla GFE services. Julia and Ashley had fake boobs, the other 2 don't. Ophilia and Bree are both skinny black, very pretty and with natural assets - a rather unique combination which is a great turn on for me but may do nothing for you.

The key thing they have in common is that they listened to what I told them I liked and disliked, and acted accordingly. Guys, always speak up! Don't be shy. Prossies can't read our minds! It sounds banal, it shouldn't be much of a skill, but it's amazing how many prossies are useless at listening and just follow some kind of script! To me, that's the difference between an OKish punt and a memorable one. More than breast size or gag reflex. YMMV, of course.

Wow .. Are you her agent?

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[mrhappypants]

Would you relax your filtering criteria or tighten them?

NTPM, If I muck up an arrangement I expect the WG to boot my booking into the long grass and make me wait until she is slow (Sweet Chantelle, Ellie Rose) or ignore me completely.

I have NEVER been asked for a deposit.  I read it as a red flag with SCAM written on it in big, bold letters. On its own it completely discredits the SP.  So, as I said, I think the neutral review justified and useful.

If she is not generating enough custom to ignore a potential punter that acts like a twat she is certainly overcharging.

[Brazilian Martian]

Wow .. Are you her agent?

 

[NotThePrimeMinister]

I don't care that much and no, I'm not her agent. If I were, I wouldn't have said that I only saw her once because she's too expensive, or that all the shit she publishes on her site and twitter (which I look at from time to time because I like the pictures ) make her come across like a bimbo with her head up her arse, or that I'd have told her to get lost had she asked me for a deposit.

My approach to reviewing prossies is similar to reviewing any other service provider, be it a financial advisor car dealer a gardener interior designer or whatever: I say what my experience was in the hope it can be useful to other people. If there's a review I think is unfair, I may say why, I may feel sorry for the person, but I'm not going to lose my sleep over it. If I have  a particularly good or bad experience I tend to be more verbose and detailed, again in the hope of being useful, but that's it. It's the very same approach I apply when reviewing services related to my other hobbies. Not gonna say what they are, but I was abused online because I dared defend one provider (nothing sexual) who was great and who was rubbished for no reason.

I suppose I have a gripe with blatantly unfair reviews because they bring back bad memories. It has nothing to do with punting: I won't go into personal details, but let's just say that a particular business suffered big time because some unreasonable people started publishing totally unfair and nonsensical reviews.

Anyway, about being useful : I have just noticed I had typed but forgotten to post a review about Zuza, so will do that now!

[NotThePrimeMinister]

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It doesn't surprise me that someone would come up with this .
I have already explained myself. You're welcome to disagree, clearly.

But if "rescuing" includes saying that

I'm not her agent. If I were, I wouldn't have said that I only saw her once because she's too expensive, or that all the shit she publishes on her site and twitter (which I look at from time to time because I like the pictures ) make her come across like a bimbo with her head up her arse, or that I'd have told her to get lost had she asked me for a deposit.

then we have a very different definition of "rescuing". 

[Brazilian Martian]

It doesn't surprise me that someone would come up with this .
I have already explained myself. You're welcome to disagree, clearly.

But if "rescuing" includes saying that

then we have a very different definition of "rescuing". 

Not being funny but you should stop now you seem to be doing a lot of typing, i know you have not been here long but you seem to defending her a bit too much. Im not sure if your a white knight or you just like posting long responses to other members.

Maybe its time to just let sleeping dogs lay.

[Sinz]

It doesn't surprise me that someone would come up with this .
I have already explained myself. You're welcome to disagree, clearly.

But if "rescuing" includes saying that

then we have a very different definition of "rescuing". 

Are you by any chance David Cameron ? He is pretty job less you see.

 

[Brazilian Martian]

Are you by any chance David Cameron ? He is pretty job less you see.