Beautiful.Ania B&S - Birmingham

[bearcat69]

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So I had a window of opportunity earlier today, my balls were bursting, and I saw Ania was showing as 'Available Today' with her phone number showing on AW, so thought, well, I haven't really had many good punts with EE WG's lately, so whilst I wasn't impressed with Ania in all ways when I had last punted her about a year ago, and I have my reservations about this groups ways of late, she is a very pleasant wank bank type memory and I thought I'd fancy a bit of that again...

A text and few phone calls were made by myself quite early in the morning, ignored for hours with no response, to I got to the point of thinking forget this, I'll just stay and home and have a wank instead. Then suddenly a reply saying she's available at 'x' time. I agreed and postcode received and I made my way to the location (chinatown apartments near the Hippodrome).

Get there, directed inside a bit laboriously by the maid, knock, door eventually opens. A fairly petite (maybe 5'3") dark brown/black haired girl answers, had a tattoo on her left arse cheek, maybe sized 10 ish. I shake her outstretched hand. I look at her, something is not right, that's not Ania. I ask her if she is Ania, she says no she's not, I ask her if Ania is there, she says she's not there, I tell her sorry, but I came to see Ania and turn around and leave.

I'm pretty sure the girl I saw was Gabbyxoxo External Link/Members Only. She looked alright, vaguely fuckable enough, but not really my cup of tea, and not the girl I wanted to see, so wasn't tempted to try her.

Shame. I usually enjoy Polish prossies a lot and I want to think this group has it's merits and is worth chancing using them for some of the gems it hides, but when making my way to the punt I suspected it's likely I'll get B&S'd and they duly obliged to not surprise me. I wouldn't be too surprised if it's another year before I try using them again...

Ah well, I saved my cash, and all's well that ends well, and I ended up going to the Water St group instead and having a very nice punt with one of their girls who I've been meaning to see for a while instead instead. The review of that should hopefully be coming in due course.

Thanks for reading fellas.

[Excalibur]

Thanks BC.  Gabby who is now Karoline.  Keeping tabs on this group is a nightmare.

[alibirmingham]

Sorry you had a bad one BC, I hear they are very hit and miss and notorious for B&S. I find the best way to avoid a B&S with this group is to be firm with the maid and confirm the WG you want to see is free and available. Saved myself a few wasted trips by using this tactic after the maid tried to B&S me on one occasion. I walked and since then never happened to me again.

[vw]

thanks for the neg review, all B&S reviews should be negative IMO what ever the outcome.  Otherwise it encourages lowlife behaviours, sadly that doesn't happen.

[alibirmingham]

thanks for the neg review, all B&S reviews should be negative IMO what ever the outcome.  Otherwise it encourages lowlife behaviours, sadly that doesn't happen.

I agree somewhat with what you say but certain factors should be made clear when giving a meh review. What I’m getting at is can you blame a WG for a B&S when the WG has no control over it and it’s done by the maid? This group as well as the Thai group on water street are known for the B&S shenanigans but the WG’s themselves are known for some cracking punts. I personally have given Ania a neg review based on a B&S but have made it clear it was due to the maid.

Also what does one do if the are a victim of a B&S but they enjoyed their time with the WG? Can they do a neg review for the original WG they booked and then do another review for the WG they actually ended up seeing?? Not sure what the rules are on putting 2 reviews for what is technically one punt. I would of though that’s not allowed so would you do a neg review for the WG you intended to see or a pos review the the WG you actually saw??

[vw]

I agree somewhat with what you say but certain factors should be made clear when giving a meh review. What I’m getting at is can you blame a WG for a B&S when the WG has no control over it and it’s done by the maid? This group as well as the Thai group on water street are known for the B&S shenanigans but the WG’s themselves are known for some cracking punts. I personally have given Ania a neg review based on a B&S but have made it clear it was due to the maid.

Also what does one do if the are a victim of a B&S but they enjoyed their time with the WG? Can they do a neg review for the original WG they booked and then do another review for the WG they actually ended up seeing?? Not sure what the rules are on putting 2 reviews for what is technically one punt. I would of though that’s not allowed so would you do a neg review for the WG you intended to see or a pos review the the WG you actually saw??

the thing is the prossie chooses the maids, their poor choice and are responsible for that choice.  They could bin the maid at anytime

If the switch is good, why not do a separate positive, has been done before while negativing the bait.

[bearcat69]

the thing is the prossie chooses the maids, their poor choice and are responsible for that choice.  They could bin the maid at anytime

+1

Coincidentally, I did actually speak to the maid afterwards about it a little bit, enquired a little bit about who else was available, although she didn't have a good alternative available. She was polite towards me about it, but didn't really offer me any apology, or even particularly acknowledge any wrong doing. Bait & switch is a bait and switch, it's deception and lying and equals an automatic negative from me. It's really not up to me to do the maids job for her. I phoned/texted Ania's number, and said who I wanted clearly, so that means I wanted to see Ania. It's really not that hard to understand, and it's not as if the maid doesn't speak fluent English. Besides, I met the girl who opened the door, she clearly knew what was going on and tried to pull a fast one and earn a bit of unasked for business for herself, she's just as complicit in the attempted deception as the maid and Ania is as far as I'm concerned.

Did Gabby offer to tell me she isn't Ania? Nope, I had to ask her and could only tell she wasn't because I'd seen her before. Was Ania or the maid straight back to me saying sorry for the mistake to me? Yeah, umm, I don't think so some how.

Imagine if I had been a newbie punter and didn't expect it and ended up seeing the wrong girl unknowingly... Not a good show imo and definitely low life behaviour that I don't condone.

[Littlefoot]

+1

Coincidentally, I did actually speak to the maid afterwards about it a little bit, enquired a little bit about who else was available, although she didn't have a good alternative available. She was polite towards me about it, but didn't really offer me any apology, or even particularly acknowledge any wrong doing. Bait & switch is a bait and switch, it's deception and lying and equals an automatic negative from me. It's really not up to me to do the maids job for her. I phoned/texted Ania's number, and said who I wanted clearly, so that means I wanted to see Ania. It's really not that hard to understand, and it's not as if the maid doesn't speak fluent English. Besides, I met the girl who opened the door, she clearly knew what was going on and tried to pull a fast one and earn a bit of unasked for business for herself, SHES JUST AS COMPLICIT in the attempted deception as the maid and Ania is as far as I'm concerned.

Did Gabby offer to tell me she isn't Ania? Nope, I had to ask her and could only tell she wasn't because I'd seen her before. Was Ania or the maid straight back to me saying sorry for the mistake to me? Yeah, umm, I don't think so some how.

Imagine if I had been a newbie punter and didn't expect it and ended up seeing the wrong girl unknowingly... Not a good show imo and definitely low life behaviour that I don't condone.

This is a very good point. I remember reading an interesting debate long time ago on this very matter. Ming was debating with a now banned member. Ming was saying that regardless the quality of the punt of the switched girl, both girls should receive negatives, based on your highlighted comment above. But the other debater was arguing, the switched girl may not be aware she is part of B&S. But I do think, if it is clear the switched girl is aware of her part in the B&S then 2 negatives would probably be appropriate IMO

[Excalibur]

Personally I believe they are all in on the scam and it’s about maximising income to the detriment of the punter who is B & Sd.  Sometimes the punter will walk as is the case with BC other punters will stay and hey ho another £100 in the bag.  Ania doesn’t give a shit as she is getting rogered anyhow (so why not let her ‘sister’ stand in) and may not know that a customer has booked her while she is being rogered but will know it goes on. Gabby gets her £100 and kicks some upstairs to the Maid.

Everyone’s a winner, bar the punter, but then there are plenty of reviews on here that have been b&s that have turned out positive.  The only downside from the prossie POV is that punters may not bother in the first place if they think b&s is a possibility.  Back to supply and demand, Brum is hardly awash with talent - 42% of current Brum profiles are Romanian.

[pbrown355]

Yes, they can't count those who don't visit because of the risk of B & S. This has been me on many occasions where I may have visited one of their group but gone elsewhere. I would still visit them as a 2nd or 3rd choice on the day, but never as a 1st choice. They are well located for me so would almost be a regular if not for this.

[vw]

Back to supply and demand, Brum is hardly awash with talent - 42% of current Brum profiles are Romanian.

When you post bullshit do you think people will not check.   

440 profiles in Birmingham logged in within 1 week

42 are Romanian which is 10%

[Excalibur]

When you post bullshit do you think people will not check.   

440 profiles in Birmingham logged in within 1 week

42 are Romanian which is 10%

Who the fuck mentioned one week? Total of 981 profiles in Brum, exclude Romanians gives 569.  569/981 = 58%, therefore remaining Romanians = 42%. Just checked.

[vw]

Who the fuck mentioned one week? Total of 981 profiles in Brum, exclude Romanians gives 569.  569/981 = 58%, therefore remaining Romanians = 42%. Just checked.

OK then then overall 59 are Romanian which is 6%.


If you ever have book a profile with no nationality you will realise most I have booked are British that don't have passports, hence no nationality.

[Excalibur]

OK then then overall 59 are Romanian which is 6%, you are full of shit.

what else do you make up?

If you ever have book a profile with no nationality you will realise most are British.

VW has spoken and when you speak I for one listen.  Why? Because you VW are the wise one, I’d even proffer to say the wisest one.  When the wisest one concludes you are full of shit, then you are full of shit. I am full of shit. Fellow Punters I deeply apologise for being full of shit and hope that you forgive me for being full of shit. I will immediately atone by going for a big shit.

[vw]

VW has spoken and when you speak I for one listen.  Why? Because you VW are the wise one, I’d even proffer to say the wisest one.  When the wisest one concludes you are full of shit, then you are full of shit. I am full of shit. Fellow Punters I deeply apologise for being full of shit and hope that you forgive me for being full of shit. I will immediately atone by going for a big shit.

Maybe just stop making stuff up, its simple.   

[Excalibur]

Maybe just stop making stuff up, its simple.   

That’s simple for you Virtual, as you are the wisest.  For somebody full of shit i.e me then actually it is quite difficult to stop making stuff up.  But you have spoken, I will try to heed your advice.  All I ask is for your patience as I try to rid myself of my shit.

[Excalibur]

the thing is the prossie chooses the maids, their poor choice and are responsible for that choice.  They could bin the maid at anytime

If the switch is good, why not do a separate positive, has been done before while negativing the bait.

Hmm.  I naively thought that the maids (or pimps) actually ran the operation, setting up the apartments, arranging travel, picking up at the airport, settling the girls in and also making sure that the girls don’t run off before they’d paid their fees by keeping their travel documents (passports) etc.  Clearly you are wise VW, can you pass on your knowledge onto the punting community evidence that you know the prossie chooses the maids and that they could bin the maid at anytime? I clearly would not call you out as full of shit just willing to learn from the wise one so I can eradicate my shit.

[Excalibur]

OK then then overall 59 are Romanian which is 6%.


If you ever have book a profile with no nationality you will realise most I have booked are British that don't have passports, hence no nationality.

Confused VW.  You need to understand that I’m of a lower intellect. If a book a prossie (profile) with no nationality I will realise that most of of your bookings are British and don’t have passports and no nationality? I’m now beginning to question my decision over your wiseness VW.

A passport is a travel document.  You can be British, Mongolian etc as a nationality without a passport.

Please restore my faith that you are indeed wise VW.

[bearcat69]

Hmm.  I naively thought that the maids (or pimps) actually ran the operation, setting up the apartments, arranging travel, picking up at the airport, settling the girls in and also making sure that the girls don’t run off before they’d paid their fees by keeping their travel documents (passports) etc. Clearly you are wise VW, can you pass on your knowledge onto the punting community evidence that you know the prossie chooses the maids and that they could bin the maid at anytime? I clearly would not call you out as full of shit just willing to learn from the wise one so I can eradicate my shit.

How do you know this happens? If you don't mind me asking...

Ania's been part of the group for almost two years. Sure she must have been back home more than a few times in that timeframe. Gotta assume the arrangement, whilst I'm sure it does have it's downsides, must work to her liking to a certain degree for her to have come back so many time. You're making it sound a bit like they are forcefully pimped sex slaves working in a prison. I'd like to think it's not quite like that, although am not privy to all the facts...

Lets not forget how Victoriaxox, Nicocolexox and Emily blonde were once part of this group. They managed to get away somehow and become indie. I'm sure wasn't easily done for them, but clearly it's not impossible.

[Excalibur]

How do you know this happens? If you don't mind me asking...

I got acquainted (via a friend, long gone) with a Polish bloke over 6 years ago who was looking to supplement his uk income. Once they’d paid off the fees they’d get the passport back (don’t know how long it would take).  From memory it was something along the lines of not wanting to rent an apartment out with no girls in it. Also not wanting to pay for their free holiday flight too.  All the girls were fully fledged hookers at home but wanted to come to the uk as they could make more money here.

[bearcat69]

I got acquainted (via a friend, long gone) with a Polish bloke over 6 years ago who was looking to supplement his uk income. Once they’d paid off the fees they’d get the passport back (don’t know how long it would take).  From memory it was something along the lines of not wanting to rent an apartment out with no girls in it. Also not wanting to pay for their free holiday flight too.  All the girls were fully fledged hookers at home but wanted to come to the uk as they could make more money here.

Exactly... They know what they are getting themselves into. Don't get me wrong, I dislike pimps as much as the next reasonably minded person, and yeah it's debatable to what extent an EE prossie is in the know about what the pimps are or aren't arranging on their behalf. But I do think these are girls who are hardly naive little flowers and are mostly aware of what they are getting themselves into when choosing to join up with a group like this. It's maybe not exactly how they might of pictured things, Britain isn't necessarily the land of milk and honey they were expecting, but point is they know what they getting themselves into and can and do leave if they want to.

Not everything in life is always easy for everybody.,. Some people have to make hard decisions that have hard outcomes. They have their reasons for doing this though. Poland is a very harsh country, especially for the poorer people there. I used to know a Polish woman very well for a few years when I was a bit younger. She was beautiful obviously, but one of the most harsh people I've ever known. Her work ethic was outstanding though. Not somebody I'd ever expect any kind of empathy or sympathy from though. She very much had a just get on with things and don't complain type of attitude to life and work.

[Juankerr]

Sorry to hear you were messed about bearcat, thanks for the review 

I have my doubts that Ania was even there at all. The profiles for this group usually get updated numerous times a day which keeps them close to the top of page 1 on an adultwork search when searching under last modified date, looking at my Hot list Newsfeed her profile hadn't been updated at all....makes me think the maid put the green light on it to drag punters in and then get the switcheroo.

Anyway at least you saved your money and had a good time elsewhere 

[Excalibur]

She very much had a just get on with things and don't complain type of attitude to life and work.

Indeed BC. I was chatting to a bloke the other day who is a Casino general manger.  He said he’d be fucked without the EE (especially the Polish, good English) workforce.  He called out Brits as whinging lazy fuckers.

[samsung1]

Was this the girl you saw instead?: External Link/Members Only

[bearcat69]

Was this the girl you saw instead?: External Link/Members Only

Tricky to tell from that profile. She did have dark hair and a tattoo which was kinda in that area, so it might have been, that girl looks a bit more toned and the tattoo was slightly more to the middle of her arse cheek IIRC, but like I say, not really sure..

[samsung1]

Tricky to tell from that profile. She did have dark hair and a tattoo which was kinda in that area, so it might have been, that girl looks a bit more toned and the tattoo was slightly more to the middle of her arse cheek IIRC, but like I say, not really sure..

Very confusing to put together pieces of information and make an informed decision.

Either that or the maid is reading this forum and changing names/ pics once the profile gets a negative.

[billyjo]

Ania and Samantha are the only 2 girls I would pay to see from this group.  They are the only 2 who have provided me with a top service from this group in years.  I've been bait and switched a few times with this group and always been a  bad punt when this has happened.  I've walked a few times as didn't find the bait and switch attractive at all, one time the girl started swearing at me for walking.