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Offline Marmalade

Maybe the tax obsessive punters should demand to see proof that the girls is paying tax before parting with their hard earned cash.... But I doubt their cock would let them !!!

Rather amusing. Would that be included in paid-for punting time? Actually it probably wouldn't apply to  James - as far as I know he's never claimed to be a punter. Jimmy & Nik, as far as I gather, have mostly just complained about a large number of girls saying they pay tax when they probably don't and assuming we're daft enough to believe it. Only one or two complain on principle that it's taking money out of taxpayers pockets.

No one has the right to demand to see someone's tax returns as an individual as far as I'm aware. The system relies more on a rather bitchy culture of shopping people suspected of not paying the proper tax. As someone has already mentioned, prostitution is quite a bitchy area. Women shop each other, with or without James' help, so I would imagine that, of those prostitutes that pay tax, the large proportion do it as a defensive measure, for survival, against a day when someone has a go at them.

The punter has to protect himself by making reasonable decisions. Both staying within the law and in most cases, avoiding exposure to himself or upset to others. Punters generally have little reason to want to question a WG's tax returns as it could expose him as a punter. Punters have to learn 'not to be taken in' by deceitful WGs, but it's on matters to do with punting - whether she lies about services, time allowed, honest photographs - not whether she pays tax. It's for this reason that I fail to see how continually berating a WG over whether she pays tax is "putting the punter first."

Offline foresight

it's when girls make unfounded claims that they do pay tax that I find I have to pull them on it, in the same way if the builder dodging tax in the pub spouted about ho he did pay tax he would be pulled.
Tax is odd, if people pay tax and are above board then they can discuss it in a calm manner without emotion, when prostitutes get so upset about the subject it speaks volumes.

So glad I can sleep easy in my bed, knowing that you are watching over the nation and "finding you have" to pull people up on their transgressions.  Would that be some sort of unfortunate psychological impulse that makes you do it or have you been 'called' in some way?

I have to give it to you; the final sentence quoted above has been so carefully written to needle and annoy and wind your target audience up. You obviously have talent but do you ever use it for anything pleasant?




Offline Wife4rent

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it's when girls make unfounded claims that they do pay tax that I find I have to pull them on it

I think that is the problem James, you judge people without knowing the true facts, how do you know if somebody is paying tax or not? Some of your above accusations about tax are very misguided and unfounded.

Whilst I am not up to date as I should be, i did spend 7+ years doing book keeping for a company and the "Boss" put everything through his expense account, even many family functions / holidays as entertainment as well as his 200+ bottles of wine and champagne that he purchased from France each year. In all that time none of the items were questioned by his accountant or by the VAT inspections I sat through.

I still run a small book keeping service including doing VAT returns and PAYE scheme's for people, but do not get too involved with the legal aspects and hand it all over to an accountant to finalise.

Bookkeeping and Blow jobs....

Offline Jimmyredcab

Jimmy & Nik, as far as I gather, have mostly just complained about a large number of girls saying they pay tax when they probably don't and assuming we're daft enough to believe it. Only one or two complain on principle that it's taking money out of taxpayers pockets.

That is pretty much my position, when I hand over my cash I could not care less if she gives it to her Yardie pimp, the tax man or spends it on cocaine -------- it is none of my business.
What DOES wind me up is when I keep reading about girls paying tax when clearly the great majority don't and never will. :rolleyes:

Offline Strawberry

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Marmalade is quite right. I've had the very odd chap tell me he's off to HMRC to "report" me when either I can't or won't see him. Usually it's thrown in with a whole load of much nastier abuse. I have then off course mentioned that I am registered only to be told I can't possible because "Wot you do is illegal" or "You can't do that?". I've made that spelling mistake purposely to indicate the general level of intelligence that comes across from such a person.

I'm sure if someone was unhappy with their builder they wouldn't shout "Pay your taxes" at them. You might well shop them though if you were that way inclined.

I don't give a stuff what people think BUT I do object when they use it abusively.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Interesting, so, how do you estimate your fuel costs? I would take it you have a fuel card and the statements go directly to the accountant, as do my bank statements for my business accounts. This is modern prostitution gentlemen, so sorry I dont fit your cosy stereotypes.

When you buy diesel you ask for a receipt ------- add them up at the end of the week and you have your fuel costs ------------- my accountant is a taxi driver specialist, if I tell him how much I have earnt he will be able to tell me how much fuel I have used, well roughly anyway.
No, I don't have a fuel card, why on earth would I want to leave a paper trail.  :rolleyes:

Offline Wife4rent

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What DOES wind me up is when I keep reading about girls paying tax when clearly the great majority don't and never will.

And all Taxi drivers are law abiding honest citizens... Who pay tax?

No, I don't have a fuel card, why on earth would I want to leave a paper trail.

Most people that don't want to leave a paper trail are avoiding paying tax

Offline Mellow

When ''clients'' get upset about the non payments of tax by the prostitute they pay for their jollies I think it says rather more. You are quite clearly raving mad.
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Offline Fannytastico

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....I would have thought that a forum dedicated to the 'hobby' would be a bit more tolerant towards one another.....
:lol:   :dash:   :lol:   :dash:   :lol:

Hello and welcome Tania - don't think I've said hello yet!

Let's just hope James is paid handsomely to be tedious, pedantic and boring to fund all the whores he objects to so much, yet can't keep away from.  Is he an actuary, accountant, solicitor, taxi driver?  Or is that denigrating some wonderful professionals - to compare them to our local lothario?

ps. it's no hobby for most people in this sector - it's business and they have to approach it as a business or go over to the dark side!

Offline Marmalade

And all Taxi drivers are law abiding honest citizens... Who pay tax?

Most people that don't want to leave a paper trail are avoiding paying tax

Nicely turned on its head.

Some men (and I'd include a couple in here, though not JRC), don't want a level playing field, they want subjugation. This is, in my view, an over-reaction from the experience of auto-censored where men are frequently subjugated by women. But it explains the emotional drive to stigmatise some female contributors.

"People committed to gender hierarchy, and determined to ensure that the dangerous sexuality of women is controlled by men, frequently have viewed the prostitute, a sexually active woman, as a threat to male control of women. They therefore become determined either to repress the occupation itself by criminalization or, if they also think that male sexuality needs such an outlet and that this outlet ultimately defends marriage by giving male desire a safely debased outlet, to keep it within bounds by close regulation."
(quoted from a source mentioned on another thread)

Offline Jimmyredcab

And all Taxi drivers are law abiding honest citizens... Who pay tax?

Most people that don't want to leave a paper trail are avoiding paying tax

I know many self employed people, builders, car mechanics and taxi drivers -------- I don't know anyone who declares every single penny that they earn, they would be exremely stupid if they did. ;)

Offline Lady Poppy

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I know many self employed people, builders, car mechanics and taxi drivers -------- I don't know anyone who declares every single penny that they earn, they would be exremely stupid if they did. ;)

Is this not the same for escorts?  Or are you saying that you don't have a problem with doing this, as long as they are declaring the majority of their earnings?

Offline Wife4rent

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I know many self employed people, builders, car mechanics and taxi drivers -------- I don't know anyone who declares every single penny that they earn, they would be exremely stupid if they did. ;)

Is that the difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion?

What DOES wind me up is when I keep reading about girls paying tax when clearly the great majority don't and never will.

So it is ok to not pay all your tax due, I suppose that is a good point. Something is better than nothing.

Offline Lucy chambers

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I know many self employed people, builders, car mechanics and taxi drivers -------- I don't know anyone who declares every single penny that they earn, they would be exremely stupid if they did. ;)

Ah, so in that case as long as you aren't a prostitute it is fine to defraud HMRS? :D


Offline Jimmyredcab

Is this not the same for escorts?  Or are you saying that you don't have a problem with doing this, as long as they are declaring the majority of their earnings?

Please read this S-L-O-W-L-Y  it just might sink in.
I could not care less whether prostitutes pay tax or not.
I do care when they keep insisting that they do --------- when my experience has shown that the vast majority don't.
Why on earth would ANYONE pay income tax if they could avoid it.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Ah, so in that case as long as you aren't a prostitute it is fine to defraud HMRS? :D


I refer the honourable lady to my earlier post.  :rolleyes:

Offline Lady Poppy

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Please read this S-L-O-W-L-Y  it just might sink in.
I could not care less whether prostitutes pay tax or not.
I do care when they keep insisting that they do --------- when my experience has shown that the vast majority don't.
Why on earth would ANYONE pay income tax if they could avoid it.


If you don't care why do you choose to not believe the ladies that tell you they pay it and then condemn them for it? 

Offline Jimmyredcab

If you don't care why do you choose to not believe the ladies that tell you they pay it and then condemn them for it? 
I can't add anything to my earlier statement ----

"Why on earth would ANYONE pay income tax if they could avoid it."


Offline Wife4rent

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"Why on earth would ANYONE pay income tax if they could avoid it."

And then it got REALLY silly.....

Because they are duty bound to and once you could get away with not submitting your returns to the tax man but it was illegal not to keep accounts of your business. The point to this was if you kept records you could claim your intention to pay, if you did not have any records of accounts then they could claim you never intended to pay.

A few years ago, they changed it to make it illegal to not submit a tax return if you were self employed. Therefore it is a criminal offence. ( I believe this to be true and too lazy to google it)

Offline Jimmyredcab

And then it got REALLY silly.....

Because they are duty bound to.

Oh Dear, we are going round in circles.
I only know three prostitutes quite well, they are all receiving benefits, they get their rent paid plus a certain amount to live on.
They do not need to fill in a tax return because they are officially unemployed, if they went self employed they would be 10 grand a year worse off and that is before they get their first tax demand.

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Oh Dear, we are going round in circles.

I agree... But you asked why would anybody pay tax and I answered. So you know three girls that are on benefit and work, your point being? I have known mayny taxi drivers that are on benefit and work, in fact you only need to google to find a long list of those that have been caught.

But, we do not accuse ALL taxi drivers of being tax cheats.

Everybody would be better off if they did not have to pay tax. You would be far better of if there was not as much tax on fuel. But the answer still stands up to your question, which was not actually aimed at any trade of profession.

Offline James999

I agree... But you asked why would anybody pay tax and I answered. So you know three girls that are on benefit and work, your point being?

the Point being that Most prostitutes do not declare their earnings.

Offline Lucy chambers

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I can't add anything to my earlier statement ----

"Why on earth would ANYONE pay income tax if they could avoid it."



Ah, cool. Ok JRC, point taken.

Offline Lady Poppy

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I can think of one good reason.  While you are on benefits or have debts or no income to show of, you are pretty much blacklisted financially, which can stop you from improving your lifestyle or that of your offspring.  By declaring your earnings and paying the tax you are admitting to having an income, which then gives you a better credit rating and allows you to do things like rent a flat, get a mortgage, get a loan etc.

The difference is without a wage to be seen you have to pay through the nose for everything or pay cash and I for one don't like the idea of keeping wads of cash in my home or having to limit what I buy in case it looks suspicious and gets used against me.

I guess it all depends on how you want to live your life?
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Offline Lucy chambers

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I can think of one good reason.  While you are on benefits or have debts or no income to show of, you are pretty much blacklisted financially, which can stop you from improving your lifestyle or that of your offspring.  By declaring your earnings and paying the tax you are admitting to having an income, which then gives you a better credit rating and allows you to do things like rent a flat, get a mortgage, get a loan etc.

The difference is without a wage to be seen you have to pay through the nose for everything or pay cash and I for one don't like the idea of keeping wads of cash in my home or having to limit what I buy in case it looks suspicious and gets used against me.

I guess it all depends on how you want to live your life?


Poppy, James recently stated that he went to see an ''escort'' who had the works for shooting up heroin in full display in her bathroom. I can't quite figure out where he gets his take on prostitution, however I think we can safely assume he isn't quite used to the finer things in life. Nor lowly whores having the audacity to want the nicer things in life.


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