Author Topic: Why you should ALWAYS use a punting phone and punting name!!!  (Read 31363 times)

KingCharming

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I was once advised by an escort to use a throwaway punting phone, and fake name on my escorting escapades. While I'd always had very positive dealings with escorts at that point (being very early on), I followed the advice, since I felt she was a very genuine and nice girl.

Well fuck me if it hasn't paid off in spades. I posted a negative review on here (and I still swear by it and all the events, word for word) and reported her on AW for having a fake private gallery, and after googling my punting details out of curiosity, lo and behold, it seems the spiteful WG who did a bait and switch has now put up a warning on SAAFE about me.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=18786.0
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=18510.0

All you newbies or guys who don't use a fake name, DO SO! I was nothing but polite, I never swore, and I just left without incident as I said in my review, yet now she's saying I was grabbing her friend by the arm and getting aggressive! I never even saw a friend there let alone did that... Right after she said I was free to leave, I did so and merely said "cheers" on my way out. No arm grabbing, no friend, no aggressiveness.

So anyway, punters beware using your real details; you can be as polite and correct as you like and still be bitten in the ass with lies!
(Giffgaff has good deals and give you a free sim, and you can always just take your dog's name as I did).

Offline smiths

I was once advised by an escort to use a throwaway punting phone, and fake name on my escorting escapades. While I'd always had very positive dealings with escorts at that point (being very early on), I followed the advice, since I felt she was a very genuine and nice girl.

Well fuck me if it hasn't paid off in spades. I posted a negative review on here (and I still swear by it and all the events, word for word) and reported her on AW for having a fake private gallery, and after googling my punting details out of curiosity, lo and behold, it seems the spiteful WG who did a bait and switch has now put up a warning on SAAFE about me.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=18786.0
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=18510.0

All you newbies or guys who don't use a fake name, DO SO! I was nothing but polite, I never swore, and I just left without incident as I said in my review, yet now she's saying I was grabbing her friend by the arm and getting aggressive! I never even saw a friend there let alone did that... Right after she said I was free to leave, I did so and merely said "cheers" on my way out. No arm grabbing, no friend, no aggressiveness.

So anyway, punters beware using your real details; you can be as polite and correct as you like and still be bitten in the ass with lies!
(Giffgaff has good deals and give you a free sim, and you can always just take your dog's name as I did).

Great advice, i hope punters take note, to me its bleeding obvious to use a dedicated punting phone or Sim and give a false name and details. :hi:

KingCharming

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Great advice, i hope punters take note, to me its bleeding obvious to use a dedicated punting phone or Sim and give a false name and details. :hi:
Yeah it's been an absolute lifesaver for me. To anyone who doesn't do it, imagine this was you; having done nothing wrong and just politely walked away from a bait and switch, you then find your name and phone number plastered all over the internet as a violent guy who sees hookers. Can't imagine that going down too well with a prospective employer, girlfriend, wife, etc who happens to google you.

When I started out I just didn't think it necessary since every girl I'd met was so nice and normal; luckily one pointed me in the right direction, and I took the advice before anything like this happened.

Doubt I'll do anything about the SAAFE post or change my details; I'm mostly sticking with the same girls these days and they know me enough to know it's a load of rubbish, so no need to come up with another name and get a new SIM, and I doubt SAAFE would give two shits if I asked to say my side of the story.

Jason

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Do never ever give your real name in an Adultwork booking form. You can say that in your email if you want to be honest: “e.g. John Harrison is not my real name – it is a fake name for discrete purposes. You are doing the same anyway.”

Online dandaley

good advice you just never know

Bloody hell, really sorry to hear about all of that, and am glad nothing worse came of it.

I've just noticed in her interview that she states:

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Who is your favourite celebrity? Katie Price

Which is a bit of a sign that she's a bit of a cunt! ;)

broksonic

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I have  never given  it any  thought  and always  used  my contract  phone  but never real name.  I will  be getting  myself  a pay as you  go  phone  now

Offline smiths

Yeah it's been an absolute lifesaver for me. To anyone who doesn't do it, imagine this was you; having done nothing wrong and just politely walked away from a bait and switch, you then find your name and phone number plastered all over the internet as a violent guy who sees hookers. Can't imagine that going down too well with a prospective employer, girlfriend, wife, etc who happens to google you.

When I started out I just didn't think it necessary since every girl I'd met was so nice and normal; luckily one pointed me in the right direction, and I took the advice before anything like this happened.

Doubt I'll do anything about the SAAFE post or change my details; I'm mostly sticking with the same girls these days and they know me enough to know it's a load of rubbish, so no need to come up with another name and get a new SIM, and I doubt SAAFE would give two shits if I asked to say my side of the story.

Indeed, the fact is there are some utter scumbag WGs and pimps, i have met a relatively small number fortunately but in my view it needs to be borne in mind as a punter punting isnt regulated. If Tesco for example call you a violent twat there is a formal complaints procedure to follow, then legal action if that bothered. I cant see many punters taking legal action due to it being paying for sex obviously.

AND on here we have the Panel999 matter to show what can happen if you do tell a bad WG enough personal info for her to be able to threaten you, which he certainly took seriously enough to leave.

Now you have given another example of a lying WG. Do not trust complete or virtual strangers in punting, you have no idea what they might be capable of. :hi:

Offline itk

I've always used false names, and for the last 7/8 years a punting phone and throw away SIM card. This came about after a WG I'd seen a few times decided to text my phone one evening saying I could see her that week for a discounted rate.


KingCharming

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I have  never given  it any  thought  and always  used  my contract  phone  but never real name.  I will  be getting  myself  a pay as you  go  phone  now
Glad to hear it. I googled my details because - as I've mentioned in other posts before - I often find my emails getting ignored on AW and girls I'd seen before had started ignoring me. I'm probably on some bloody warning scheme just because I posted a negative review about a bait and switch...

To the scammer who is no doubt reading this; well done, you have closed someone you know damn well is a legitimate and perfectly honest and safe punter out of the game, and thereby not only decreased the number of good punters to bad, but undermined any safety girls had in the SAAFE reporting system, making escorting that bit more dangerous for not only your fellow WGs, but yourself too. Good job.

Jason

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This WG (Daisy_) appears to be global moderator on SAAFE. Not sure if she is the WG you met or acting on her behalf. The warning is still in the very first page.

KingCharming

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This WG (Daisy_) appears to be global moderator on SAAFE. Not sure if she is the WG you met or acting on her behalf. The warning is still in the very first page.
Says on the post "posted on behalf of another escort", so I'm assuming it's not her. Will maybe message her and see what she says; I wouldn't expect it to be taken down since it's my word against hers, but only fair if I at least get to defend myself; as I mentioned, I've done nothing wrong and this is just one WG trying to get revenge over a bad review. Doubt anything will come of it, but no harm in asking. As I say, if their warnings page becomes just a load of rubbish and lies that the scammers post, then it undermines the whole system for WGs who are genuine and want real warnings.

Very good advice, and common sense too. I had not heard of SAAFE! Is that the only site that shares punters' details or are there others anyone knows of?

Offline Dani

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Sometimes fake reports do make it on to saafe.  After all the moderators have no way on knowing if it was true or not.  I tend to not believe the ones where the person has not posted it themselves as I always wonder why not?  After all if you can email a mod to do it for you then you can easily post it yourself if it is true.

I worked with a girl who told me she had been raped and beaten by a client so I put a warning on saafe which I later had to ask to be removed as it turned out the guy was actually her BF and she found out he was seeing escorts so wanted him on a warning list as a rapist so others would not take his bookings.  Its why I will no longer make a post on behalf of someone else and always tell them to make it themselves.

There is always bound to be fake posts on there just as there are probably thousands of numbers and names not put on there that should be as girls just don't bother as they don't care if someone else gets hurt as it is not their problem.  Unfortunately this sort of thing will always happen on any forum.  Look at the odd one that gets put up on here saying this girl has Aids or HIV.  We have seen them but thankfully most punters are not stupid enough to believe it and make the poster look like a fool.

On saafe the warning threads are not allowed to have a discussion on them but if it is untrue then contact the Mod who posted it and point her back to the review you left as the great majority of people who had physically grab a woman and twisted her arm would not leave a review saying she wasn't the person in the photos but seemed polie enough, they would have put something awful instead

KingCharming

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Sometimes fake reports do make it on to saafe.  After all the moderators have no way on knowing if it was true or not.  I tend to not believe the ones where the person has not posted it themselves as I always wonder why not?  After all if you can email a mod to do it for you then you can easily post it yourself if it is true.

I worked with a girl who told me she had been raped and beaten by a client so I put a warning on saafe which I later had to ask to be removed as it turned out the guy was actually her BF and she found out he was seeing escorts so wanted him on a warning list as a rapist so others would not take his bookings.  Its why I will no longer make a post on behalf of someone else and always tell them to make it themselves.

There is always bound to be fake posts on there just as there are probably thousands of numbers and names not put on there that should be as girls just don't bother as they don't care if someone else gets hurt as it is not their problem.  Unfortunately this sort of thing will always happen on any forum.  Look at the odd one that gets put up on here saying this girl has Aids or HIV.  We have seen them but thankfully most punters are not stupid enough to believe it and make the poster look like a fool.

On saafe the warning threads are not allowed to have a discussion on them but if it is untrue then contact the Mod who posted it and point her back to the review you left as the great majority of people who had physically grab a woman and twisted her arm would not leave a review saying she wasn't the person in the photos but seemed polie enough, they would have put something awful instead

Thanks Dani, will do! If only all WGs were as nice as you...

Offline berksboy

 From the so called warning on SAAFE   "posted on behalf of another escort"

 Helps to read to the end !

Offline Jimmyredcab

From the so called warning on SAAFE   "posted on behalf of another escort"

 Helps to read to the end !

Saafe is a pro$$ie forum, they don't give two fucks if the warning is true or not ----- they put pro$$ies first just as we put punters first.  :hi:

magpiejon

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Have just googled my AW profile name and turns out it is also some one who does reviews for computer games. Nothing came up regarding AW. Put my UKP name in and on the second page appeared a post I'd submitted. So Google is a bit hit and miss.

Jason

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As I mentioned in another thread better have a separate account for giving AW negatives which should be accessed only through a TOR project browser which assigns you an IP address of a foreign country so it cannot be related to your real IP address (which is associated with your main account). When I have a bad experience or a bait and switch I do the following: I use my secondary account to place a booking request during midnight, then leave a “feedback only” warning. My secondary account has plenty of positive feedback from my regulars (who are more than happy to assist me in eliminating the scammers) so my warnings should certainly have the right impact.

Iblisuk

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Bloody hell, really sorry to hear about all of that, and am glad nothing worse came of it.

I've just noticed in her interview that she states:

Which is a bit of a sign that she's a bit of a cunt! ;)

 :D

Offline wristjob

I pretty much always used a punting phone from day dot and usually leave my main phone in the car. Even that can be risky as someone posted on the thread about GPS.

I can only remember using my main (actually my #2) phone once for a booking as the girl was on the same network as me and I got loads of free mins. On that punt she said the condom broke (I'm not entirely convinced) and started fretting cos she wasn''t on birth control and I legged it. I certainly didn't feel comfortable with her having anything other than a totally disposable number.

Apart from that had a couple of girls who texted me and one girl's dad who phoned - he'd found out she was on the game when she was rushed to hospital with gonorrhoea - bet nobody would like their mrs picking up that call. .

theotherside

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I would say it was a good idea when you hear about guys getting blackmailed and outed by disgruntled working girls and pimps. Especially if this is extra curricular activity. Your safety has to be your number one priority. 

Sashagirl

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Hello there

I feel compelled to post and give my side of the story here. I will post this once, and in KingCharming's other thread regarding us, so people can hopefully make up their own minds on me and my colleague's integrity.

Firstly may I state emphatically that I am NOT a "bait and switch" operation. I will explain the misunderstanding which happened on that evening.

I (Sasha) am a masseuse of the sensual variety and I work from my AW profile which KC reported on above. My pictures are all of myself only. No one else uses the profile at all. I also have a gumtree advert.

I work WITH a mature masseuse called Cindy. She does not want to register on AW even although her regulars advise her to,  as she has another career and does not want as much exposure as being on a full on "adult" site may bring. She prefers the Gumtree and Viva Street websites and she is busy enough just from them.

As you can imagine, we have quite a few phones kicking about!

1) My AW phone
2) My Gumtree phone (so I know who is calling from where - Gumtree'ers need more details)
3) Cindy's Gumtree phone
4) 2 personal phones (punters are not the only one's who use separate phones for their activities and their family lives)

On the evening in question, what happened was that KC's appointment with ME SASHA with the AW profile, had been written down in our diary schedule as a GUMTREE appointment with CINDY. We are genuinely sorry for the inconvenience this would have caused Mr KC, which is why Cindy was rather perplexed when he started talking about pictures and why Cindy was polite and understanding of Mr KC's decision to walk out, as Mr KC has said.

If Mr KC had simply contacted after the fact to express his dissatisfaction with what happened (the next day we realised it had been a mix up with the diary and phones - who has appointment with who etc) then we could have explained what had happened. However since Mr KC walked out so quickly (which is understandable!), and we do not contact clients outwith bookings then we had no way of letting Mr KC know it was an accidental mistake. We would have apologised for Mr KC's wasted journey.

I, nor Cindy, are any kind of "Bait and Switch" operation.

As for the false warning letter linked to by KC, we GENUINELY are not responsible for this. Mr KC did not abuse anyone in any way in person. I can only think this has come through the grapevine somehow, since Cindy did share with a few massage friends who work nearby in the City Centre the phone number of Mr KC, NOT for any malicious reasons at all, but because these ladies are also what would be considered "mature" masseuses, being in their 40s and 50s, and would be rather upset as Cindy was to also have their names lambasted on a public forum beside the description of "little old lady" !!!! So after Cindy told them about the incident they asked for the number etc, we did not give it to create accusations against KC, only so that the other mature ladies could not answer the number so they would not run the risk of having walk outs or someone reviewing them as a little old lady. I have no idea where this information is coming from, there are some fruit loop masseuses about and things do get around about clients the same as things get around about ladies.

It is unfortunate that this matter could not be explained and resolved without KC coming onto this forum to post a negative review. Cindy has good reviews over at the FBSM site and we are only interested in providing a good service and making money, not in "scamming" people in any way. Unfortunately this was a complete accident and we will be sure to be more careful with pencilling in appointments from now on - re this phone , this person, this time.

It is also unfortunate that Mr KC felt the need to have my AW profile suspended for 5 days and to post a private picture of me here - thankfully AW responded to my explanation of the situation and reinstated my profile. It is a shame he felt it appropriate to call Cindy a "little old lady" - to which her many happy customers would not agree with. She is in her late 40s a mature lady yes, but far from a little old lady!. I understand this is supposed to be a "male banter" forum and you can all discuss people how you like, which is why I won't be logging on after this cause I have no real interest in it, but that was upsetting for her. She is after all, a human being like the rest of us.

I hope that in the future Mr KC you will seek to resolve issues with the provider themselves first rather than just automatically assuming the worst (ie "Bait and Switch!") and reporting to AW, coming on here to write reviews etc. Perhaps this kind of attitude is why, and I'm going from quotes from your own posts here, escorts will rarely reply to you again after you have seen them once, you only get replies to a small percentage of your emails etc. Again, we do apologise for the inconvenience and will make sure that in future we will be more careful to record which bookings are with which girl.

I hope this has fully explained the situation and we can get on with our respective lives. Again, it was NOT our intention to "bait and switch" anyone, we get on fine without doing that.

Offline Ali Katt

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I, nor Cindy, are any kind of "Bait and Switch" operation.
Using pictures of a different woman to the one the punter was going to see is bait and switch. Whether it was intentional or not, he was mislead.


SirPhilipXX

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It may indeed have been a mix up Sasha, and it is helpful that you have given your account of what happened. However, the fact remains that your colleague Cindy has anonymously accused KC in a public forum of physically assaulting her:

"He looked as if he was both freaked out and intimidated by someone else being in the flat and angry at the same time (whereas before she came out he was looking just angry and threatening body language to me). he seemed pissed off she's challenged him and went for her (bathroom first door in hall so claose to front door) and sort of grabbed her and twisted her arm a little then shoved her into wall in hall beside bathroom door then he stormed out . (I had not locked door behind me - we never do straight away for safety in case we have to get out). He was muttering when he was going out."
 
You now admit that all this was completely untrue, so I think that either you or Cindy should now post a message on SAAFE making this clear, explaining exactly what happened, and withdrawing your public warning about a completely blameless punter, who now finds himself on many WGs' blacklist.

theotherside

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I think she said it was neither her nor Cindy that put the warning there it sounds like chinese whispers gone mad! Hopefully KC can show Amy on the saafe board the reply to this thread and help get that warning off the board. 3rd party warnings are never really useful. What a silly mess.

Kram

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So the SP messes up and the it's the punters fault

Seems legit  :wacko:

You said your friend isn't on AW as soon as the KC mentioned private gallery surely the penny shoulda dropped

OldAdmin

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So "Sashagirl", have you been a member of this site before?

should always use a fake name and pay as you go phone

KingCharming

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Hi Sasha,

I appreciate you coming on here to explain your side of things; it would have been very easy for you to just ignore this whole thing, to go with the aggression version of events (whoever came up with them) and put the blame on me, or otherwise just avoid it. Hopefully you've contacted the mod of the SAAFE thread too to clear things up on both sides. Anyway, on to the meat of the matter...

If Mr KC had simply contacted after the fact to express his dissatisfaction with what happened (the next day we realised it had been a mix up with the diary and phones - who has appointment with who etc) then we could have explained what had happened. However since Mr KC walked out so quickly (which is understandable!), and we do not contact clients outwith bookings then we had no way of letting Mr KC know it was an accidental mistake. We would have apologised for Mr KC's wasted journey.
You suggest I should have contacted you to express my dissatisfaction with what happened, but I disagree with this. There is no mention of a second person on your AW profile, no second person had been mentioned prior to the meet, and (contrary to the SAAFE post) I never saw a second person in that flat. As far as I was aware there was only ever one person I had been dealing with (I mentioned in the review that "Cindy" said "WE", suggesting there was someone else involved, however this was something that occurred to me looking back, and was only one very small indication). From what I knew there was one person, one phone, one profile; why would I then give that same person a phone call the following day just to repeat what I had said on the day I met her- that she was not the person in the photos? I would counter that it was you (or her) who had the responsibility to contact me and inform me of the mix up. I understand you do not like to contact punters unarranged via their phones, however you could have done so via an AW email. [/quote]

As for the false warning letter linked to by KC, we GENUINELY are not responsible for this. Mr KC did not abuse anyone in any way in person. I can only think this has come through the grapevine somehow
Appreciate you saying this and helping me to clear my name; it's a very serious accusation and not one to be thrown around lightly. As I say, it would have been easier to just hide away from all this and ignore it rather than tackle it head on. My only concern is that it the post was made Nov 4th, and it is now Nov 26th, although perhaps like me you just didn't see it until now, which is entirely possible if you weren't the one who made the accusation and aren't involved with SAAFE either.


since Cindy did share with a few massage friends who work nearby in the City Centre the phone number of Mr KC, NOT for any malicious reasons at all, but because these ladies are also what would be considered "mature" masseuses, being in their 40s and 50s, and would be rather upset as Cindy was to also have their names lambasted on a public forum beside the description of "little old lady" !!!!

I don't know that it was necessary to warn others of this; I'm sure it's clear from the fact that I walked out that I was not interested in a booking with Cindy, with the only reason I came to the flat to see her in the first place being because the private gallery indicated that the booking was with someone else. I understand the mixup, however to my mind at the time it looked like a bait and switch, and there was nothing to indicate otherwise for me. As such, any women wishing to avoid me would only have to worry if their profiles did not match the reality.
If everything is as you say, I apologise for upsetting Cindy over my "little old lady" comment. Not everyone has the same tastes, and I'm sure if she has many regulars as you say, then she shouldn't worry about what one person's view of her is. I'm sure you can understand that having waited such a long time outside, then to be met with someone completely different and significantly older than I was led to believe, I was not exactly in a generous frame of mind when writing the review.

It is unfortunate that this matter could not be explained and resolved without KC coming onto this forum to post a negative review. Cindy has good reviews over at the FBSM site and we are only interested in providing a good service and making money, not in "scamming" people in any way. Unfortunately this was a complete accident and we will be sure to be more careful with pencilling in appointments from now on - re this phone , this person, this time.
I hope that in the future Mr KC you will seek to resolve issues with the provider themselves first rather than just automatically assuming the worst (ie "Bait and Switch!") and reporting to AW, coming on here to write reviews etc.
As above, I don't think it was my responsibility to contact you guys and explain; as far as I was aware I had only ever been dealing with one person, from one AW profile (and I'd like to point out that Cindy did not deny that it was her profile at the time). You could have easily sent me an AW message to explain a mixup that I could not have been aware of, but you were. You had all the facts at your disposal, while I did not.

It is also unfortunate that Mr KC felt the need to have my AW profile suspended for 5 days and to post a private picture of me here - thankfully AW responded to my explanation of the situation and reinstated my profile.
I would not otherwise have posted a private picture of any girl on AW, however as I mention in the review, I did so only because the girl in the pictures was a different person from the girl who (from my own meeting) would be at the booking. I had paid to access that private gallery in order to see who I was booking, so was more than a little put out to find out it was a total waste. My report to AW was perfectly justified from what I had experienced; paying for a private gallery, then finding that the girl in the private gallery is not the one on the profile (as far as my experience had proven), and there is a report function specifically for that purpose. Your explanation here says this is not the case, and you were able to explain yourself to AW without having anything removed, so no permanent harm has been done.

Perhaps this kind of attitude is why, and I'm going from quotes from your own posts here, escorts will rarely reply to you again after you have seen them once, you only get replies to a small percentage of your emails etc. Again, we do apologise for the inconvenience and will make sure that in future we will be more careful to record which bookings are with which girl.
Very funny. I think you'll find though that a front page post on SAAFE's warning page that's been read 594 times and counting, saying I'm an aggressive punter who'll barge into your home and assault your friend, has the effect of somewhat putting people off.

Offline CBPaul

My 10 cents worth, fair play to both of you Sasha and KC.

I can not see why KC should even consider contacting further having walked out; he turned up, wasn't happy, walked out, end of. What would be gained from contacting again.

I have only contacted a WG once after a failed punt, got to venue and both numbers I had for her were off. She did call me back to apologise (fair enough) and offer me a discount if I went straight back - why would I leave myself open to another wasted journey though ? The desire to meet had gone by that point and I had no intention of going back. In hindsight contacting her again to find out the reason for the no-show was a total waste of time.

Views on SAAFE are pretty well known on here. The ability to create third party reports is incredulous though. Obviously total lack of credibility in the report should be recognised but that's never going to happen. Hopefully it will be removed but given that this is unlikely can you not make a second post Sasha putting the record straight. Fair enough, Cindy can have a moan about the guy who called her a little old lady but passing on his details is irresponsible.   

I think you'll find though that a front page post on SAAFE's warning page that's been read 594 times and counting, saying I'm an aggressive punter who'll barge into your home and assault your friend, has the effect of somewhat putting people off.

Don't worry about it, 590 of those views will be from UKP'ers who recognise bullshit when they read it.

Offline CBPaul

Yet another example of investing in a punting phone. As some of us have been saying for ages, for the cost of a crappy phone and PAYG SIM it's a no-brainer.

Given this, the chances of a WG contacting you at an inconvenient time and the warnings on smart phones tracking locations etc etc etc it's a big risk to take if you use your civvy phone.

On three occasions a WG has contacted me at an inconvenient time when specifically asked not to. The punting phone was off and hidden away, had it been my main phone Mrs CBP would have been fully aware  :scare:

Jason

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If the girl is independent I always make clear to her on the phone that the meeting is conditional upon her real looks (unless she is a well reviewed one).

Sometimes, however, especially when punting abroad I use agencies for outcalls. Agencies may send a different girl by mistake or intentionally because the other girl is already booked (nb. you know that the actual girl is genuine by the way). There are also and those who simply exercise bait and switch.

In any case when I don't see the expected person  (and even when I still like the girl that has appeared and I am going to proceed with the punt normally)- I say something like this (taking names from the above example):

For outcalls (where the girl comes directly to the hotel room) or for incalls:
“Where is Sasha? She doesn’t work today?”  or “Hmm, Are you Sasha’s friend?” or “I came for Sasha is she here?”

When the girl says: “I am Sasha”. Gotcha. I have a printed version of her profile in my pocket and say: “Well I was expecting to see this specific Sasha. You are not this Sasha”

The girl may also say: “Sasha was not available today and they send me. Do you like me?”

As I said if I like what I see I will proceed with the meeting saying: “Anyway you are beautiful too.”
If I don't like what I see I will (if incall) walk out, or (if outcall) contact the agency for the mistake, or simply give to the girl £10 (or 10-20Euros) and ask her to leave.

For outcalls that I meet the girl in the hotel lobby:
If I like what I see I will approach her and say “Are you Sasha?”, She will say “Yes”. I will reply “Well, I almost couldn’t recognise you from the pictures but anyway you look great”.
If it is a bait and switch to something I don't like: I will send a text to her saying “I can't recognise any girl here same as your profile pictures. Where are you standing?” And then proceed as with the room outcall procedure (contact the agency or simply send her back)

OldAdmin

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So "Sashagirl", have you been a member of this site before?

I see you're reading this thread as guest but not logging in to reply.

mystery7

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My punting phone looks like something from the early 90s! Sure all WGS that see it think i'm a pauper :) Did stupidly tell one my name the other day. Doh!!!!!!

Offline smiths

My punting phone looks like something from the early 90s! Sure all WGS that see it think i'm a pauper :) Did stupidly tell one my name the other day. Doh!!!!!!

Being thought of as a pauper suits me just fine when punting, i also have a very old punting phone. :thumbsup:

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Being thought of as a pauper suits me just fine when punting, i also have a very old punting phone. :thumbsup:

A person's phone is usually a sign of their choice and requirements, not  necessarily a reflection of wealth especially when the most up-to-date handsets can be seen in the hands of people of all levels of income.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 05:01:27 pm by Strawberry »

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A person's phone is usually a sign of their choice and requirements, not  necessarily a reflection of wealth especially when the most up-to-date handsets can be seen in the hands of people of all levels of income.

I know Strawberry, i was joking. :hi:

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The private gallery pic posted by KingCharming is that of GlasgowGirl, and "Sashagirl" account on this site has both GlasgowGirl's email and IP.

Glasgowgirl's profile: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=243

So it seems that GlasgowGirl is running a pimping bait-and-switch scam?

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Admin, can you prove this (piece of irrelevant and untrue information!) ??. A couple of random pictures and an IP address does not prove anything. How can you say that the picture even is / was GlasgowGirl in the first place when GlasgowGirl was posting?  :D  :wacko:

I joined (and as you can see my colleague also joined) for the sole intention of giving our side of the misunderstanding. The poster Mr KingCharming has already accepted that it was a misunderstanding on the review thread and we have apologised for the mix up several times. What exactly is the point / motive in playing detective then?

I already said that whilst I understand that this is a "male banter" site, I am not interested in getting into any pointless tit-for-tats on this site, it's not my cup of tea at this point in my life. I'd like to be able to read the reviews on my area, which I can do without an account, and that's about it.

I already stated on my post that I would not be logging back into the account after I had made my post, but for some reason you couldn't let it lie. Now I will do so. And you can play detective and make allegations based on a couple of random internet pictures which could be of anyone and ran by anyone to your heart's content.

I only joined to put our side of the story across, and it seems to have been accepted by the punter in question. Also have emailed saafe site about it once I got on there to see if the grapevine misinformation NOT caused by us can be removed. Can we leave it here now. (wishes there was a yawn emoticon).

If possible could you de-activate / ban any accounts held by my IP address? Thank You
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 08:07:05 pm by Sashagirl »

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Admin, can you prove this (piece of irrelevant and untrue information!) ??. A couple of random pictures and an IP address does not prove anything. How can you say that the picture even is / was GlasgowGirl in the first place when GlasgowGirl was posting?  :D  :wacko:

Which part of, your email address matches GlasgowGirl do you not understand you fucking cunt?

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Mmmm he clearly mentions your email and ISP are the same. 2+2=4 not 5

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I only ever use an agency, am i still to be worried? Do the girls get my number or just the agency?

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If the apology is true then why is the warning and his username and phone number still up on Saafe.  Daisy does not write down a warning on grapevine rumours.  None of the mods would do that.  They would check it from the horses mouth so to speak.  They would not take a someone told me that another girl told them that they were told this happened.  Saafe doesn't work that way.  Mods do not post idle gossip.  Basically one of them asked the mod to post this or got someone else to ask the mod to post it as it happening to them for whatever reason be it a genuine mistake (in which case the correct name and number should have been put on there by now, or it was done just to be malicious.  For whatever reason it should have been removed by now and if someone had contacted either Daisy or Amy it would have been removed immediately.

I do feel that those involved should actually join up and put a post on there saying that the user name and number given for this attack was totally incorrect and they apologise to the client for his details being put on there and then the real attackers (if there was one) details should be put in its place.

Things like this make a total mockery of the Saafe warnings system.   Its bad enough AW feedback cannot be trusted anymore due to girls being malicious against clients but to bring Saafe down to that level is terrible as it is a trusted site that we tend to believe.  Listing attacks with fake details is just going to bring down the validity of what is a great warning forum

edited*** I have reported this to the mods on Saafe myself seeing as how the person responsible obviously cannot be bothered or doesn't find it an urgent need to clear someones name.  I have pointed them to this thread so they can see themselves that it is untrue
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 08:27:06 pm by Dani »

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If they were really contrite they would of course offer to take care of KC's sexual needs for free themselves till they had successfully negotiated removal of slander from saafe and restored his honour, dignity and unblemished reputation among the WG community.

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"You're not the girl in the photos" I said
"We don't have photos..."
"In your private gallery you do"

If the above story were true about 2 women working in the same place surely Cindy (?) would would do her own 2+2 and say something like "Oh, you mean the other girl"

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Well Sashagirl now that you are banned let me explain you what this technical "detail" means so that you don't ridicule yourself again. Same IP address means accessing the Internet from the same physical location (same house). Not only this but you used the same email address as that of "Glasgow girl". How did you know/access her email address if you are not her? The best you could do was to be honest and confirm that "Glasgow girl" is you, rather than arguing on technical aspects you clearly don't know.

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If the apology is true then why is the warning and his username and phone number still up on Saafe.  Daisy does not write down a warning on grapevine rumours.  None of the mods would do that.  They would check it from the horses mouth so to speak.  They would not take a someone told me that another girl told them that they were told this happened.  Saafe doesn't work that way.  Mods do not post idle gossip.  Basically one of them asked the mod to post this or got someone else to ask the mod to post it as it happening to them for whatever reason be it a genuine mistake (in which case the correct name and number should have been put on there by now, or it was done just to be malicious.  For whatever reason it should have been removed by now and if someone had contacted either Daisy or Amy it would have been removed immediately.

I do feel that those involved should actually join up and put a post on there saying that the user name and number given for this attack was totally incorrect and they apologise to the client for his details being put on there and then the real attackers (if there was one) details should be put in its place.

Things like this make a total mockery of the Saafe warnings system.   Its bad enough AW feedback cannot be trusted anymore due to girls being malicious against clients but to bring Saafe down to that level is terrible as it is a trusted site that we tend to believe.  Listing attacks with fake details is just going to bring down the validity of what is a great warning forum

edited*** I have reported this to the mods on Saafe myself seeing as how the person responsible obviously cannot be bothered or doesn't find it an urgent need to clear someones name.  I have pointed them to this thread so they can see themselves that it is untrue

Interesting to hear that Dani. Perhaps I was a bit hasty in being forgiving as I didn't expect the warning system to be so stringent, or that the post would have been taken down so quickly. Will wait and see any response from SAAFE, so far they haven't allowed me to join which would let me send a message myself.

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I only ever use an agency, am i still to be worried? Do the girls get my number or just the agency?

An Agency could just be some guy working from his parents back bedroom with a laptop and a mobile, thats all thats needed. If the guy or women is low life they will be just as bad as a bad WG obviously. Trust no one who is a complete or virtual stranger in punting is my advice. :hi: