IS IT THEFT IF........?

[Kinky Foxx]

Hey Guys,   

I s it theft if, when I'm with a WG and I pay for half an hour then set the timer on my mobile to thirty minutes, show the WG  thirty minutes but then sneakly set 40 minutes without her seeing it, then proceed to enjoy my extra ten minutes of podging fun?
Most of those Romanian girls love nothing than to short-time us anyway with their time wasting tactics and just rushing us out before time anyways, right? So why can't we a ten minutes or so onto our half or hourly bookings.

KF.

[Midori]

That is really not a nice thing to do and will probably end up with you being put on some girls block lists. Why not just go to reputable providers who give you the full time you have paid for?

Wouldn't work with a lot of girls anyway, most girls have a clock in their room or their own method of knowing when a booking is due to finish. Personally, I would think with most decent girls if a booking naturally overran by ten minutes it shouldn't be an issue at all.

[Dick Cheese]

Out of order IMO.If you're short changed timewise,never go back and post a negative review on here for your fellow punters,simple.

[MrMatrix]

Bit naughty Op. Many SPs give a bit of extra time in any case. Think Midori's comment is valid.

[FLYING BLUE]

Hey Guys,   

I s it theft if, when I'm with a WG and I pay for half an hour then set the timer on my mobile to thirty minutes, show the WG  thirty minutes but then sneakly set 40 minutes without her seeing it, then proceed to enjoy my extra ten minutes of podging fun?
Most of those Romanian girls love nothing than to short-time us anyway with their time wasting tactics and just rushing us out before time anyways, right? So why can't we a ten minutes or so onto our half or hourly bookings.

KF.

Completely out of order IMHO

[hullad]

Sneaky very fox like ....

It's not on mate I always play the game with respect to the girl and to time

[Thecunninglinguist]

 It would be obtaining services by false representation. Still the Theft Act 1968. To answer your question as asked.
It would never be persued obviously but it is still there.
It is still a crap idea. Not only bad form but may lead to confrontation with pimps etc and an special place on prossie net.

[anonyorks]

Good luck finding a girl that will let you set a timer plus 100% of the girls I have seen have their own watch on. Bad move IMO

[Romeo Sensini]

Just book the extra time if you know you want longer you tight-arse - most WG's don't charge double their 30 mins rate for a 60 mins booking and some will offer a 45 mins rate for only a little more. Fairness and trust work both ways.

[stevedave]

Yeah, I'm with the crowd here. It's not theft as such, but it's dishonest and deceitful.

If you're short changed on time, come on here and negative them, don't piss around trying to get an extra few minutes.

[Ali Katt]

It's nefarious. Imagine if the girl set her alarms ten minutes fast. I have heard of this before.

[kaboom]

Bad form. Some girls unfortunately DO short-change us but not that many. Most of them allow a little "Fergie time" if you`re struggling to finish or while you`re getting dressed afterwards so long as you don`t take the piis,which is precisely what you`re trying to do.

[MrMatrix]

Strikes me you have your answer OP.

[Kinky Foxx]

I have indeed, Mr Matrix.   

The UKP Community unanimously hold the view that it would be uncool and extremely bad form to try and pull such a stunt, and rightly so.
Even as I posed the question I knew that even if the majority view was pro, ie, (they rob us so why not rob them?), I myself would not feel right doing it.

Yes, there are some tricky WGs who have numerous tactics ( having a fag, chatting on phones, long bathroom breaks etc..) for getting you out the door before time and they're the ones that should be and will be reviewed negatively.  There are also many, many decent, honest, fair-playing WGs who genuinely don't mind when we occasionally over-run by 5,10 even 15 minutes past our booking, (God bless 'em) and they're the ones we all love.   

[MrMatrix]

I have indeed, Mr Matrix.   

The UKP Community unanimously hold the view that it would be uncool and extremely bad form to try and pull such a stunt, and rightly so.
Even as I posed the question I knew that even if the majority view was pro, ie, (they rob us so why not rob them?), I myself would not feel right doing it.

Yes, there are some tricky WGs who have numerous tactics ( having a fag, chatting on phones, long bathroom breaks etc..) for getting you out the door before time and they're the ones that should be and will be reviewed negatively.  There are also many, many decent, honest, fair-playing WGs who genuinely don't mind when we occasionally over-run by 5,10 even 15 minutes past our booking, (God bless 'em) and they're the ones we all love.   

Think you've summed the whole issue up Kinky Fox. Happy punting mate.

[munterhunter]

Heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right"? If a WG sort changes you on time or services do a negative review on her.
There are sites where they can review us and if you try to get an extra 10 minutes you'll get caught out and likelyvend up on a review site.
I've had a number of bookings go over time because we have both been having a good time. It's ALWAYS been with women I've seen a few times and we both feel comfortable. Occasionally I've been podging away and the lady has said "sorry time up I have a other booking" and you have to respect that. I have walked out of a punt before the time booked is up. For me it's about the experience rather than making sure I've gad every second I paid for. If I've had a good service walk out satisfied with a smile on my face I'm happy! If you feel like you are being ripped off don't try to return the favour review the woman and simply don't go back!

[myothernameis]

Hey Guys,   

I s it theft if, when I'm with a WG and I pay for half an hour then set the timer on my mobile to thirty minutes, show the WG  thirty minutes but then sneakly set 40 minutes without her seeing it, then proceed to enjoy my extra ten minutes of podging fun?
Most of those Romanian girls love nothing than to short-time us anyway with their time wasting tactics and just rushing us out before time anyways, right? So why can't we a ten minutes or so onto our half or hourly bookings.

KF.

It wouldn't work, especially if she has another punter arriving at xx:xx, so you have a 30 min booking at 15:00, technically you will have to out of there at 15:35, which then gives the escort time to get ready for her next booking at 16:00

So if you try to get an extra 10 min's she likely to shout at you, and maybe her big boy friend in the next room, will help you leave by the front door, and you end up being black listed by all the escort, and if you go to SAAFE, they will talk about you, and share your phone number

[MrMatrix]

Heard the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right"? If a WG sort changes you on time or services do a negative review on her.
There are sites where they can review us and if you try to get an extra 10 minutes you'll get caught out and likelyvend up on a review site.
I've had a number of bookings go over time because we have both been having a good time. It's ALWAYS been with women I've seen a few times and we both feel comfortable. Occasionally I've been podging away and the lady has said "sorry time up I have a other booking" and you have to respect that. I have walked out of a punt before the time booked is up. For me it's about the experience rather than making sure I've gad every second I paid for. If I've had a good service walk out satisfied with a smile on my face I'm happy! If you feel like you are being ripped off don't try to return the favour review the woman and simply don't go back!

I wasnt aware of this - what site is that?

[myothernameis]

I wasnt aware of this - what site is that?

Wonder if he talking about SAAFE

[Heph]

It'd be cheap and shabby, and beneath you.

We hate it when we get time-wasted, short-changed and cheated. And we love it when we get courtesies, unexpected bonuses, or when a WG does more than merely the right thing.

Take your example from that. No belief in karma is required - people notice decent behaviour and respond favourably.

[vw]

Hey Guys,   

I s it theft if, when I'm with a WG and I pay for half an hour then set the timer on my mobile to thirty minutes, show the WG  thirty minutes but then sneakly set 40 minutes without her seeing it, then proceed to enjoy my extra ten minutes of podging fun?
Most of those Romanian girls love nothing than to short-time us anyway with their time wasting tactics and just rushing us out before time anyways, right? So why can't we a ten minutes or so onto our half or hourly bookings.

KF.

What about returners?   

[gfeman]

Out of order and unacceptable IMO. If we got short timed we'd be fuming and at best annoyed. We'd also waste no time and rightly so in posting a neutral or negative feedback to inform others.

[MrMatrix]

I dont suppose many if any of us punters earn £100 ph. To keep us returning it is short sighted for escorts not to give a bit of extra time. As the opposite is true if I am short changed in time- I rarely if ever return.
This probably means they only earn £90 ph which is still a lot and most likely tax free.

As for the escorts that charge £150 +, well it pisses me off when they say you only have 7 minutes left which happen recently.
We shouldn't lose sight this is a job to them and money is the only thing they care about. The good ones will give a bit of extra time I would hope and that I have experienced as well many times. Which is why I have a couple of regulars

[MrMatrix]

Wonder if he talking about SAAFE

Well thats what I was thinking-

[munterhunter]

Wonder if he talking about SAAFE

YES SAAFE

[munterhunter]

There's also CAERF

[MrMatrix]

There's also CAERF

Isnt that Canadian- nothing to do with UK.

[vw]

Isnt that Canadian- nothing to do with UK.

NUM too

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[Kinky Foxx]

I had no idea about SAAFE until this thread and WGs had their own forum to comment and discuss issues on.   It's pretty cool, not as good as UKP obviously but really informative..  I love the threads about "30 mins vs 60 mins" bookings and the one about " having unattractive clients".  So apparently, even rich business types try to short-change WGs financially.

There's a contributor on there with an Ena Sharples avatar, with nearly 3000 posts, I think she's the SAAFE equivalent of our very own Mr FishyFoo!   

[Scarboroughdude]

I had no idea about SAAFE until this thread and WGs had their own forum to comment and discuss issues on.   It's pretty cool, not as good as UKP obviously but really informative..  I love the threads about "30 mins vs 60 mins" bookings and the one about " having unattractive clients".  So apparently, even rich business types try to short-change WGs financially.

There's a contributor on there with an Ena Sharples avatar, with nearly 3000 posts, I think she's the SAAFE equivalent of our very own Mr FishyFoo!   

The Head sister (Admin) on SAAFE is an escort called Amy Vergnes, had a punt with her once. She is based in Scarborough but seems to visit London each month. I upset her by saying something (cant remember what it was now) and she literally bit my head off, she can be quite scary, but fit for her age. 


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[myothernameis]

I upset her by saying something (cant remember what it was now) and she literally bit my head off, she can be quite scary

You didn't mention Ukp 

[Scarboroughdude]

You didn't mention Ukp 

No, Forgot to do that  I think it was something about Rommies  anyway she wasn't amused 

[Heph]

It's a very good site to be aware of - to get a view from the other side; to attempt to see things less instinctively adversarial way and so on.  That said; it can be effing exasperating to read too - some real boneheads amongst the more sensible contributors.

[Kinky Foxx]

Well, mentioning Ukip does tend to get some people's hackles up...   

[Heph]

UKIP or UKP?  Is there little difference? (I can totally see Nige and Godfrey Bloom being members here on the QT)

[Ortame]

I'm splitting hairs a bit, but what about the issue of consent in having sex outside of the designated time?

[Heph]

I'm splitting hairs a bit, but what about the issue of consent in having sex outside of the designated time?

You make sure you give it   

[Kinky Foxx]

Hey Scarborough Dude,   

you kept that one quiet.  I just checked out a review of that Amy Vergnes, and you're right she is fucking fit for 42, well, well sexy.  I will defo be heading over Scarborough way when she's there again for a paddle and a podge.

Note to self:  avoid talking about Rommies, UKip or UKP.   

[Ali Katt]

The Head sister (Admin) on SAAFE is an escort called Amy Vergnes, had a punt with her once. She is based in Scarborough but seems to visit London each month. I upset her by saying something (cant remember what it was now) and she literally bit my head off, she can be quite scary, but fit for her age. 


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Not a good BJ then?

[Scarboroughdude]

Not a good BJ then?

Not the best  she only does OW and doesnt allow RO, wont be back, I felt very awkward with her as if she was a school teacher telling me off....sorry miss   

[Scarboroughdude]

Hey Scarborough Dude,   

you kept that one quiet.  I just checked out a review of that Amy Vergnes, and you're right she is fucking fit for 42, well, well sexy.  I will defo be heading over Scarborough way when she's there again for a paddle and a podge.

Note to self:  avoid talking about Rommies, UKip or UKP.   

Best of luck KF if you do see her , just watch your mouth  Maybe say SAAFE has a load of weirdos on it