Bella- bleu - Cardiff

[np500]

Mentioning it is not hang draw and quartering them, it is just making people aware of potential pitfalls. Useful stuff for a review site.   

But that’s the problem, the smallest comment gets strung out over six days and treads get high jacked, people get pissed and then get banned, this is why when these things kick off everyone shuts the fuck up for fear of being drawn in and banned themselves, self preservation is the order of the day, you will denie and deflect, but that’s how it is, , that’s what it’s come to,virtually  no one wants to express there opinions any more, thay stick to the basics, and hope for the best, I find it odd that grown men on an adult site for guys seeking sex behind there wives backs are afraid to air there views for fear of getting banned ? You will now try to justify my post as bollox .

[vw]

But that’s the problem, the smallest comment gets strung out over six days and treads get high jacked, people get pissed and then get banned, this is why when these things kick off everyone shuts the fuck up for fear of being drawn in and banned themselves, self preservation is the order of the day, you will denie and deflect, but that’s how it is, , that’s what it’s come to,virtually  no one wants to express there opinions any more, thay stick to the basics, and hope for the best, I find it odd that grown men on an adult site for guys seeking sex behind there wives backs are afraid to air there views for fear of getting banned ? You will now try to justify my post as bollox .

who gets banned for posting facts in reviews?

what a load of bullshit, have you been drinking?

Seems like you are having a swipe at admin for having a site with robust standards and things get questioned.

[np500]

See , passing the blame on to admin.  again , you said that, admin holds no fear for anyone, he does an amazing job, and you know it, the truth generally hurts.

[vw]

See , passing the blame on to admin.  again , you said that, admin holds no fear for anyone, he does an amazing job, and you know it, the truth generally hurts.

admin is the only person that bans, you were moaning about bannings, something only he does.

As for the truth hurting, sure looks like the valid criticism of your review hurt you.   

[np500]

Nice deflection, in the rule book that’s the case , but he has no time to be following all the threads in all the regions, be bans by recommendation, you know that’s the case.

[vw]

Nice deflection, in the rule book that’s the case , but he has no time to be following all the threads in all the regions, be bans by recommendation, you know that’s the case.

I know he doesn't read every post but if you report he investigates. Hopefully your reviews will improve to include objective facts and the other unnobjective reviewers will become so.  Happy to help.   

[np500]

I’ve only reported what I’ve experienced, I , like most can never put everything in a review, even woolfie  can’t  achieve this after 3 months of putting them together, things will always be forgotten ( nearly 60, give us a break ) , overlooked. Not deemed worth of mentioning, other things will get put in that are of no use to others etc, just because something gets left out don’t make it a lie, you don’t know me as I don’t know you, but we both have a good idea where  each other’s personality lies by our four years of posts, e-mails etc, you call me untrustworthy, well thank you for that, I’ll hold my court on that one, as I’d not go public with personal stuff like that, just a respect thing.

[vw]

I’ve only reported what I’ve experienced, I , like most can never put everything in a review, even woolfie  can’t  achieve this after 3 months of putting them together, things will always be forgotten ( nearly 60, give us a break ) , overlooked. Not deemed worth of mentioning, other things will get put in that are of no use to others etc, just because something gets left out don’t make it a lie, you don’t know me as I don’t know you, but we both have a good idea where  each other’s personality lies by our four years of posts, e-mails etc, you call me untrustworthy, well thank you for that, I’ll hold my court on that one, as I’d not go public with personal stuff like that, just a respect thing.

Well this is going in circles, I genuinely hope you evolve to be objective. Have a good one.   

[MrMatrix]

Well this is going in circles, I genuinely hope you evolve to be objective. Have a good one.   

Tell me this thread has finally come to an end........

[np500]

Yes it’s going around and around, and that’s what happens on here when the hounding kicks in, it’s never ending, think you get my point, now I’m off to a party full of Canadian relatives, some well fit too .

[vw]

Yes it’s going around and around, and that’s what happens on here when the hounding kicks in, it’s never ending, think you get my point, now I’m off to a party full of Canadian relatives, some well fit too .

Hope they have something for you to sit on.   

[MrMatrix]

Yes it’s going around and around, and that’s what happens on here when the hounding kicks in, it’s never ending, think you get my point, now I’m off to a party full of Canadian relatives, some well fit too .

Me I'm off out to lunch with some friends. Alas I'm driving...

[np500]

Hope they have something for you to sit on.   

I take my arse with me where ever I go, I’ll take my new bed to my next punt, got to cover my angles !

[vw]

I take my arse with me where ever I go, I’ll take my new bed to my next punt, got to cover my angles !

 

Make sure you mention how easy it is to carry the bed in.   

[np500]

I’ll need a hand , did I tell you both me knees fucked ! 

[vw]

I’ll need a hand , did I tell you both me knees fucked ! 

Happy to help.   

[Grumpy Pumpy]

VW, some of your comments and suggestions are helpful. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is your intent.

But - and it's a big but - your style is very often hectoring (excuse the pun) and critical. And you can come across, to me at least, as though you are telling us what to think, do and write.

So, you very seldom, if ever, win the hears and minds of this board (and probably those others in the UK that I think you contribute to). You may not give a shit. And you may think that I'm now telling you what to think, do and write. But, if you really do want to be helpful, then I would suggest you are more conciliatory and less inflammatory. Because, right now, most of us ignore what you say and miss any good points that you make.

All of that said, I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the increasing list of those on this board that you have issue with

[vw]

VW, some of your comments and suggestions are helpful. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is your intent.

But - and it's a big but - your style is very often hectoring (excuse the pun) and critical. And you can come across, to me at least, as though you are telling us what to think, do and write.

So, you very seldom, if ever, win the hears and minds of this board (and probably those others in the UK that I think you contribute to). You may not give a shit. And you may think that I'm now telling you what to think, do and write. But, if you really do want to be helpful, then I would suggest you are more conciliatory and less inflammatory. Because, right now, most of us ignore what you say and miss any good points that you make.

All of that said, I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the increasing list of those on this board that you have issue with

I get that, maybe i am too direct for some and they miss the point.  Why would I tell sense to fuck off, would rather get my point across and have reviews with objectivity in.

there is a lack of objectivity as doombar pointed out, the problem is it is rife, cannot believe for 1 min that all these meets have no downfalls.

humour me, try and find them. 

[Hectorshouse]

Predictable retort, I' sure that is plagiarism of SW.  Unoriginal as well as unobjective

No, all my own words, pity you weren't objective in your last review!

[vw]

No, all my own words, pity you weren't objective in your last review!

Plenty of objectivity thanks, none in all your green reviews though.  Nobody has accepted the challenge to find any.   

The retort was plagiarism a mirror of your BF, do you live with SW, you appeared on within minutes like a couple.   

I suggest your mates look at your comments on your soph review to see how much you hate your adverts to have anything less that 100% positivity.   

[MrMatrix]

VW, some of your comments and suggestions are helpful. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is your intent.

But - and it's a big but - your style is very often hectoring (excuse the pun) and critical. And you can come across, to me at least, as though you are telling us what to think, do and write.

So, you very seldom, if ever, win the hears and minds of this board (and probably those others in the UK that I think you contribute to). You may not give a shit. And you may think that I'm now telling you what to think, do and write. But, if you really do want to be helpful, then I would suggest you are more conciliatory and less inflammatory. Because, right now, most of us ignore what you say and miss any good points that you make.

All of that said, I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the increasing list of those on this board that you have issue with

+1.  I really dont get it VW why you have dug in on this thread. You have commented 42 times out of 118 replies on this thread- bit OTT and obsessive. Everyone on this thread seems to be disagreeing with you and Grumpy is making a valid point in all that he says. Theres no need to always be so confrontational with so many. 

[Hectorshouse]

Plenty of objectivity thanks, none in all your green reviews though.  Nobody has accepted the challenge to find any.   

The retort was plagiarism a mirror of your BF, do you live with SW, you appeared on within minutes like a couple.   

I suggest your mates look at your comments on your soph review to see how much you hate your adverts to have anything less that 100% positivity.   

You really are so focused on your post counts, it's just drivel you spout! Negative rubbish, as always. I can't be bothered with you anymore, I prefer punting.

I will address your posts when you say something positive or constructive to me, but as you have stated I am a twat in your eyes, at least that is useful, but you....

[vw]

I am a twat

Absolute fluffy twat.   

[np500]

I get home and, fuck me, relentless ! M o t d and bed , got to be up at 6, sadly, some things just don’t change.

[Bonio]

If you really don't like someone's persisent comments, why not simply ignore them? By not replying, you neither refute nor endorse their opinion but more importantly you do starve them of the oxygen that they require. Eventually they burn out.

Try it. Don't try it. But if you continually take the bait, you cannot really moan or expect a different outcome.

[np500]

If you really don't like someone's persisent comments, why not simply ignore them? By not replying, you neither refute nor endorse their opinion but more importantly you do starve them of the oxygen that they require. Eventually they burn out.

Try it. Don't try it. But if you continually take the bait, you cannot really moan or expect a different outcome.

For four years I’ve not said fuck all when V W hounds fellow punters, I got dragged in to this by V W hounding me over the size of a bed and Un booked punts that did’t happen , who actually gives a fuck ? so for the first time I had to reply , I did drag it out, more to bore the arse off V W and show him how boring this hounding of well meaning punters can be, H H is now in his sights, woolfie and SW get it , hoping thay will bite,  I’m not saying anything more on the subject, saying nothing has always been my stance, but V W has a well oiled machine on the go and it’s very hard to never say anything, and he knows it. And as things stand , that was my last review, simply not worth the hassle.

[Hectorshouse]

If you really don't like someone's persisent comments, why not simply ignore them? By not replying, you neither refute nor endorse their opinion but more importantly you do starve them of the oxygen that they require. Eventually they burn out.

Try it. Don't try it. But if you continually take the bait, you cannot really moan or expect a different outcome.

B - thanks for your thoughts, you are totally correct, I will no longer respond to him on any post.

[np500]

B - thanks for your thoughts, you are totally correct, I will no longer respond to him on any post.

+1

[vw]

For four years I’ve not said fuck all when V W hounds fellow punters, I got dragged in to this by V W hounding me over the size of a bed and Un booked punts that did’t happen , who actually gives a fuck ? so for the first time I had to reply , I did drag it out, more to bore the arse off V W and show him how boring this hounding of well meaning punters can be, H H is now in his sights, woolfie and SW get it , hoping thay will bite,  I’m not saying anything more on the subject, saying nothing has always been my stance, but V W has a well oiled machine on the go and it’s very hard to never say anything, and he knows it.

Its you hounding, all started with your WKing that fluffy tout HH, must be love IMO.

Stop hiding prossie faults then, all very simple.   

As for who gives a fuck about small beds and endless cancels, many punters do , just not doormats punters apparently.

B - thanks for your thoughts, you are totally correct, I will no longer respond to him on any post.

will you post by proxy, get one of your chums to do your bidding.   

[np500]

What ever you say, I’m out, you just ruin an enjoyable pass time for most, i’ll Not review , not speak and basically leave you to your full time passion, Enjoy.

[vw]

+1

that lasted long then.   

[Gastroboy]

FFS close this thread. Every time I think there’s something new and informative I get to see this drivel. On and on and on and on like a fucking broken record all stirred up by one antagonistic twat.

That’s all I have to say. No need for a last word because I will not respond.

Move on!

[MrMatrix]

VW, some of your comments and suggestions are helpful. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is your intent.

All of that said, I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the increasing list of those on this board that you have issue with

This thread highlights how one member , a senior member with the most postings can intimidate the rest of the normal punters and contributors on this forum. You have set about hounding HH and I note you have reported him on another thread. You have bullied your way through out the whole of this thread, promoting your own agenda for god knows what. Trashing and rubbishing every ones view point.  All the other contributors have been against you- but you dont seem to have picked up on this. You do this on a regular basis VW. And you dont stop until you get a banning, and non of us here want to get banned. Every contributor on this thread values the ethos of this forum and we all try to make a valuable contribution in a positive way. However your contribution- especially on this thread has been nothing but controversial, confrontational, unpleasant, agressive , unnecessary and most of all bullying in its nature.
There really has been no need for all of this and I really dont see where you get off. You seem to have exceeded your position as senior posting member in creating problems where there arent any.

And before you start on me , this is nothing to do with me white knighting HH, or any other member on this thread - its about you and the abuse of your position. Theres no need for this VW.

And as Grumpy said  I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the now ever increasing list of those on this board that you have issues with. I will not be contributing to this thread again. Pointless.

[vw]

This thread highlights how one member , a senior member with the most postings can intimidate the rest of the normal punters and contributors on this forum. You have set about hounding HH and I note you have reported him on another thread.

Admin agreed with the post report and took action.  shocked nobody else noticed these things.   

So reply is abuser of position then, i replied to others points  all vs me is more hounding IMO, much like a tag team vs me. 

Also maybe do your research on HH.   

Anyway this is not about banning all about objectivity.     

[Dan Dastardly]

This thread highlights how one member , a senior member with the most postings can intimidate the rest of the normal punters and contributors on this forum. You have set about hounding HH and I note you have reported him on another thread. You have bullied your way through out the whole of this thread, promoting your own agenda for god knows what. Trashing and rubbishing every ones view point.  All the other contributors have been against you- but you dont seem to have picked up on this. You do this on a regular basis VW. And you dont stop until you get a banning, and non of us here want to get banned. Every contributor on this thread values the ethos of this forum and we all try to make a valuable contribution in a positive way. However your contribution- especially on this thread has been nothing but controversial, confrontational, unpleasant, agressive , unnecessary and most of all bullying in its nature.
There really has been no need for all of this and I really dont see where you get off. You seem to have exceeded your position as senior posting member in creating problems where there arent any. Well said sir! I couldn't have put it better myself 

And before you start on me , this is nothing to do with me white knighting HH, or any other member on this thread - its about you and the abuse of your position. Theres no need for this VW.

And as Grumpy said  I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the now ever increasing list of those on this board that you have issues with. I will not be contributing to this thread again. Pointless.

[Steelworker]

This thread highlights how one member , a senior member with the most postings can intimidate the rest of the normal punters and contributors on this forum. You have set about hounding HH and I note you have reported him on another thread. You have bullied your way through out the whole of this thread, promoting your own agenda for god knows what. Trashing and rubbishing every ones view point.  All the other contributors have been against you- but you dont seem to have picked up on this. You do this on a regular basis VW. And you dont stop until you get a banning, and non of us here want to get banned. Every contributor on this thread values the ethos of this forum and we all try to make a valuable contribution in a positive way. However your contribution- especially on this thread has been nothing but controversial, confrontational, unpleasant, agressive , unnecessary and most of all bullying in its nature.
There really has been no need for all of this and I really dont see where you get off. You seem to have exceeded your position as senior posting member in creating problems where there arent any.

And before you start on me , this is nothing to do with me white knighting HH, or any other member on this thread - its about you and the abuse of your position. Theres no need for this VW.

And as Grumpy said  I'm very happy for you to tell me to fuck off and add me to the now ever increasing list of those on this board that you have issues with. I will not be contributing to this thread again. Pointless.

I agree with you, Mr Matrix and Grumpy. VW’s posts are unnecessarily aggressive and rude. This, coupled with me not finding any of his posts useful to my personal punting these days, means I’m not going to take any notice of them, nor issue any response.

Notwithstanding this, I continue to find the forum to be invaluable and fun.

[Dan Dastardly]

Well said Mr Matrix, I couldn't have put it better myself 

[nonuser]

It's because of threads like this that I never post. I've been a member for years, have punted a few times, but it is entirely down to threads like this that I just keep my opinions to myself.

This one has just gone on for so long though, that I just thought I'd chip in, and try to make people realise that threads like this put some people off posting.

[vw]

It's because of threads like this that I never post. I've been a member for years, have punted a few times, but it is entirely down to threads like this that I just keep my opinions to myself.

This one has just gone on for so long though, that I just thought I'd chip in, and try to make people realise that threads like this put some people off posting.

I think people with feeble excuses put others of sharing and dominant cliques of fluffies put many off sharing negatives too.

Anyway thanks for post, be brave and persevere, they tyranny of the fluffies can be defeated.   

Someone will always be put of i guess, many will be returners and overly nervous.

Any post forth and be objective.   

[Doombar]

If you really don't like someone's persisent comments, why not simply ignore them? By not replying, you neither refute nor endorse their opinion but more importantly you do starve them of the oxygen that they require. Eventually they burn out.

Try it. Don't try it. But if you continually take the bait, you cannot really moan or expect a different outcome.

UKP has a feature called “Ignore”. If you don’t want to see someone’s posts just add that user to your “ignore list”.  You can find this feature on your Profile - on the left side if you scroll down 

[Bonio]

UKP has a feature called “Ignore”. If you don’t want to see someone’s posts just add that user to your “ignore list”.  You can find this feature on your Profile - on the left side if you scroll down 

Yep I use that for one person (an SP) but in most cases I can just look beyond pointless ramblings and shit stirring. Trolling and white knighting both ignored in equal measure.

[def456]

virtualwaster, you have made your points in this thread, more than once. Now leave it. Please.

[vw]

virtualwaster, you have made your points in this thread, more than once. Now leave it. Please.

thanks for the pointless bump.   

My last reply was 3 days ago, do you not understand dates?