Bella- bleu - Cardiff

[vw]

About four I think, she backed out etc , W E set up a duo on one of them but did’t happen, I criticized her for this on a thread a while back and questioned her actually being an s p, she did’t ignore me, there was contact etc, with a young one and the time needed to come to Cardiff I think she got the cold feet thing, and I would only see her in Cardiff , which she did, shit happens, the bed thing was just one of those things , and it was bigger than a single bed , but not a double, it was fine.

4 times yet this is your first review, sort of backs up what i am saying, thanks very much.   

[np500]

4 times yet this is your first review, sort of backs up what i am saying, thanks very much.   

We were talking and had not seen her so what was to review, I made plenty of negative remarks on that thread, I asked if anyone had seen her as I questioned her being an s p , I wanted to see her and was in contact, not like she left me parked up in the bay or just did’t contact me until the following day, we can dissect every good, bad or indifferent punt in the history of punting if we so wish, but have we the time or wish to do so, depends on the individual, and like the girls we meet, we’re all different. And that has to be respected.
And I’ve mentioned a few times about the not seeing her situation, hence that thread, so it was out there, never hidden.

[vw]

We were talking and had not seen her so what was to review, I made plenty of negative remarks on that thread, I asked if anyone had seen her as I questioned her being an s p , I wanted to see her and was in contact, not like she left me parked up in the bay or just did’t contact me until the following day, we can dissect every good, bad or indifferent punt in the history of punting if we so wish, but have we the time or wish to do so, depends on the individual, and like the girls we meet, we’re all different. And that has to be respected.

knowing she is as persistent canceller is useful to review or at least mention, that sort of thing will save punters betting on a dud. 

Well talking of respect i feel it is disrespectful not mentioning her penchant for cancelling 4 times on your review, alongside the bed thing.

Hope the single bed thing does not catch on, seems to be being encouraged. 

[np500]

knowing she is as persistent canceller is useful to review or at least mention, that sort of thing will save punters betting on a dud. 

Well talking of respect i feel it is disrespectful not mentioning her penchant for cancelling 4 times on your review, alongside the bed thing.

Hope the single bed thing does not catch on, seems to be being encouraged.

I did mention I tried to meet her before and I’d mentioned it before, first two lines of review, the bed did’t bother me, how many more times ? obviously bothers others, going on about things like this only puts others off reviewing and contributing , Then that’s wrong.

[vw]

I did mention I tried to meet her before and I’d mentioned it before, first two lines of review, the bed did’t bother me, how many more times ? obviously bothers others, going on about things like this only puts others off reviewing and contributing , Then that’s wrong.

Well not mentioning these important things put people off too.

This whole exchange is about objectivity, reviews should be objective and include this.

We van delve deeper it SW and MM insist, or just take the objectivity advice posted initially by doombar.

[mrdiamond77]

Think it’s a given that lots who consume this hobby will do them selves serious financial damadge, this is where you have to look at it while not looking at AW / uk e / uk p, you have to be in control of your finances, ones cock will spend far more than your brain ever meant to spend if you don’t be firm with yourself !

It's probably good for me that I live in the wilds and not in Cardiff otherwise I will be punting every week and spending a lot more cash.  You should always punt within your financial means.

[np500]

We’re all adults, most of us read most of the treads, and we form our own thoughts and judgements on most girls we may wish to see, due to my long, and well documented failure to meet amber , in my head it was probably obvious what had gone before, maybe I should have put more detail for those that did’t know, none of us are perfect, and everyone uses there own minds eye, which is never what the next guy will see, then there’s the shit we forget and in some cases never to be remembered, unless someone else points it out !

[Hectorshouse]

thanks for confirming, this assumes all punters are the same, maybe try objectivity and you could be more valuable than a back slap receiver. 

This was referring to the WG's in answer to DB's question.

You assume to much certainly makes an ass of u but not me. What I write is my review in my style, I won't be changing for you  - if you are that interested in Bella make a booking.

[vw]

We’re all adults, most of us read most of the treads, and we form our own thoughts and judgements on most girls we may wish to see, due to my long, and well documented failure to meet amber , in my head it was probably obvious what had gone before, maybe I should have put more detail for those that did’t know, none of us are perfect, and everyone uses there own minds eye, which is never what the next guy will see, then there’s the shit we forget and in some cases never to be remembered, unless someone else points it out !

It is much harder to forget bad things than good, the mind boggles.  External Link/Members Only

Fascinating reading about exceptions to these things.   

[Hectorshouse]

They are not stand alone though, your past will live with you .  Learning other reviewers is imperitve to find a match, only a fool would look at reviews as stand alone rather than big picture.

They are stand alone, that is how I have used this site over the years. You search all reviews of a wg and valuate the info.

[vw]

This was referring to the WG's in answer to DB's question.

You assume to much certainly makes an ass of u but not me. What I write is my review in my style, I won't be changing for you  - if you are that interested in Bella make a booking.

you review in a manner where only the good makes the final copy.

Thanks for confirming punters are best off going  rather than expecting objectivity, great, thanks for that.   

Maybe be a little objective, for the forum. 

[vw]

They are stand alone, that is how I have used this site over the years. You search all reviews of a wg and valuate the info.

And any sensible punter assesses other reviewers nature, your nature is very clear from yours. 

[Hectorshouse]

I think many make assumptions on others affording things, SW is a grand master at that assumption when promoting HH. Fact is maybe they sacrifice other things to punt or crazy on the credit cards, these celebrity style punters never hang round long which make me thing the bank come knocking.   

Time will tell.

Wow that's a new one! Wgs with cc terminals!!! I use Sunny myself - duh!!!

WTF is a celebrity style punter??!!

[np500]

It is much harder to forget bad things than good, the mind boggles.  External Link/Members Only

Fascinating reading about exceptions to these things.   

But one man’s bad is another’s slight irritation, is another’s laugh on by don’t give a fuck situation, the cancellations where irritating, but I never lost anything Barr time texting, comms never went dead until it eventually happened, it was a mission accomplished ,  bed could’t have bothered me less, having to travel to Bristol to work with 5 bridge payments and fuel and time this and next week was/is  irritating, still waiting for payment from 3 of my last five jobs is bad, bed don’t come in to it.

[vw]

WTF is a celebrity style punter??!!

Punters that review for adulation and back-slaps and generally are not objective that ruins the illusion of their celebrity. 

[vw]

But one man’s bad is another’s slight irritation, is another’s laugh on by don’t give a fuck situation, the cancellations where irritating, but I never lost anything Barr time texting, comms never went dead until it eventually happened, it was a mission accomplished ,  bed could’t have bothered me less, having to travel to Bristol to work with 5 bridge payments and fuel and time this and next week was irritating, still waiting for payment from 3 of my last five jobs is bad, bed don’t come in to it.

Can you not see how useful it would be in a  review rather than a random post elsewhere? 

[Hectorshouse]

And any sensible punter assesses other reviewers nature, your nature is very clear from yours.

Strangely I have never read one of yours when I researched. Nor would I.

[np500]

I can see clearly , an hour ago !

[Hectorshouse]

Can you not see how useful it would be in a  review rather than a random post elsewhere?

Like you then, posting just to annoy.

[np500]

Can you not see how useful it would be in a  review rather than a random post elsewhere?

it wasn’t a random post, it was a thread and I have mentioned it since, as I invariably do.

[vw]

Strangely I have never read one of yours when I researched. Nor would I.

Predictable retort, I' sure that is plagiarism of SW.  Unoriginal as well as unobjective

Sorry there is not enough prossie worship and hidden escort flaws for you in mine.  That wont change any time soon..

[vw]

it wasn’t a random post, it was a thread and I have mentioned it since, as I invariably do.

Not on your review though

when i search her name or her aw number it doesn't show. 

Which is why it is important on reviews.

[np500]

Maybe, the s p’s up your way are generally crap, as I know you have a few girls out call to you from here, you should move down here, girls are generally good, sports teams are on the up, we have sea, beaches , bays, stadiums, you name it, and a pint .

[vw]

Maybe, the s p’s up your way are generally crap, as I know you have a few girls out call to you from here, you should move down here, girls are generally good, sports teams are on the up, we have sea, beaches , bays, stadiums, you name it, and a pint .

Plenty will come to me thanks, from many cities, don't really need to move.

Sure it is nice in Cardiff, would be that much nicer if when visiting visiting flakes that cancel lots or have other faults have it mentioned on their reviews. 

[np500]

Like roxy from Manchester if you want to talk about cancelling, you must be having a right go at her for her actions ? Or is it just punters who pay thousands you’d rather piss off, your choice, you can bang on about this and beds as much as you like, it don’t change nothing and never will, it becomes white noise to most, hence 99% don’t comment on these o c d rants about trivia, I only need to say stuff to my kids once, thay generally get it, and we move on, move on .

[vw]

Like roxy from Manchester if you want to talk about cancelling, you must be having a right go at her for her actions ? Or is it just punters who pay thousands you’d rather piss off, your choice, you can bang on about this and beds as much as you like, it don’t change nothing and never will, it becomes white noise to most, hence 99% don’t comment on these o c d rants about trivia, I only need to say stuff to my kids once, thay generally get it, and we move on, move on .

you know my thoughts on roxy that as clearly posted in the right place.

Maybe learn from your kids and be objective in the future, and maybe put a note on your amber review she cancelled 4 times to help other punters.  Only if you are not scared to post slight negative points about Welsh escorts.   

[np500]

you know my thoughts on roxy that as clearly posted in the right place.

Maybe learn from your kids and be objective in the future, and maybe put a note on your amber review she cancelled 4 times to help other punters.  Only if you are not scared to post slight negative points about Welsh escorts.   

Have you ever asked anyone to add a positive comment on uk punting in all your time on here ?  granted I don’t look at other regions very often , but I’d be very surprised ! , but I’ve been proven ( in your eyes) unreliable together with S W , H H , woolfie etc,  so be it, I’ll add a post on the tail end of my review to satisfy your O C D tendencies, you can sleep now ( double bed I presume ? ) with the clearance of mind that you’ve cleaned up another shit hole mess on the welsh board, that could not be left untouched. Now I need to go to my new 1.8k bed, yes, beds are very important,  and you my man are keeping me from it , night.

[vw]

Have you ever asked anyone to add a positive comment on uk punting in all your time on here ?  granted I don’t look at other regions very often , but I’d be very surprised ! , but I’ve been proven ( in your eyes) unreliable together with S W , H H , woolfie etc,  so be it, I’ll add a post on the tail end of my review to satisfy your O C D tendencies, you can sleep now ( double bed I presume ? ) with the clearance of mind that you’ve cleaned up another shit hole mess on the welsh board, that could not be left untouched. Now I need to go to my new 1.8k bed, yes, beds are very important,  and you my man are keeping me from it , night.

thanks for confirming you to play the welsh victim card rather than include facts in your review.   

Sleep well knowing you are setting other punters up for a fall with info hiding.

[np500]

God you speal sum stuff , now go alter your misleading post. Night.

[vw]

God you speal sum stuff , now go alter your misleading post. Night.

how is exposing you hiding the FACT she cancelled 4 times misleading?

What is misleading is not mentioning it or the dam bed.

[SeekingtheTruth]

Hang on, aren’t you the one who said you have punted in a camp bed and in a cemetery? I can’t imagine either of those were VFM.

[np500]

And under a bush !

[vw]

 

Hang on, aren’t you the one who said you have punted in a camp bed and in a cemetery? I can’t imagine either of those were VFM.

yes over 10 years ago ca mp bed, bemetary 20 years, long before the forum or it would be mentioned., 

Whats with the cover ups?

[np500]

Not every post hides a conspiracy, no one, including yourself , posts everything about everything every time thay post, we do forget stuff and sometimes we see no point, we don’t post about every punt, , no one does, do thay ?

[vw]

Not every post hides a conspiracy, no one, including yourself , posts everything about everything every time thay post, we do forget stuff and sometimes we see no point, we don’t post about every punt, , no one does, do thay ?

Fuck me, cannot believe you don't see the problem of covering up useful facts that may put punters off and make informed buying decisions.

[np500]

You said that not me, is frustrating though when you can’t get your point over ! I got your point 2 days ago, I explained what happened, I was not the one that dragged it out for far too many hours, some of us have serious shit to do , every day.

[SeekingtheTruth]

yes over 10 years ago ca mp bed, bemetary 20 years, long before the forum or it would be mentioned., 

Whats with the cover ups?

Where am I doing a cover up? You posted about a single bed not being VFM and I remembered you mentioning the 2 scenarios I posted. Had no idea of the timeframes but surprised me that you would keep going on about a single bed when you had used a camp bed and what I assume was no bed in the cemetery.

For the record if I had walked in and seen a single bed I would have not been impressed at all. Especially at £150 per hour.

[vw]

Where am I doing a cover up? You posted about a single bed not being VFM and I remembered you mentioning the 2 scenarios I posted. Had no idea of the timeframes but surprised me that you would keep going on about a single bed when you had used a camp bed and what I assume was no bed in the cemetery.

For the record if I had walked in and seen a single bed I would have not been impressed at all. Especially at £150 per hour.

Well do you think 4 cancels before a meet and a single bed are important things for reviews?

Or are a list of past conquests more important?   

this whole tangent was started due to this

Thanks for your latest review HH - you are clearly a busy boy when it comes to punting, and you are building up a good body of reviews. 

I would say I do find your reviews a bit "samey" though - positives reviews don't mention any potential downsides

Which i whole hardheartedly agree with.

[SeekingtheTruth]

Well do you think 4 cancels before a meet and a single bed are important things for reviews?

Or are a list of past conquests more important?   

It’s well documented that she has cancelled several times in the past. I would mention that she had flaked on me in the past, like Red has done. I would have mentioned the single bed but I can understand how it would be missed on a review when you are trying to remember the fun details to get into the post. Especially for the older punters amongst us.

As for past conquests? Why would I bother listing past punts unless it serves to illustrate a point?

[SeekingtheTruth]

And yes I agree, if there are obvious downsides they should be mentioned.

But let’s be honest, who goes into a booking thinking about the review they are going to write? I know I don’t. Unless something really jumps out at me I don’t go looking for negatives to a meet. Would rather relax and enjoy myself.

[vw]

As for past conquests? Why would I bother listing past punts unless it serves to illustrate a point?

Well I cannot see a point of a list other than to compare which never happened, think its more a self review than of an escort.

[np500]

Do you read my posts ? You keep pumping this 4 cancelled punt thing to legitimize you failing point,

1st punt ( no booking , no A W acount ) was coming to Cardiff , but did’t happen, had plenty of warning.

2nd punt, she had an offer on , i e-mailed for an evening booking in Swansea,  she said great, but when she got home the slot was already gone, no booking, was never happening,

3rd punt, 3sum arranged by welsh Elise, in Cardiff,  no booking , just date and time , did’t happen but knew in advance.

4th punt, she did Cardiff , I booked on A W ( she has an acount now ) met at time arranged , left on time, Enjoyed my time,

Now where is the underhand actions in any of this, various p s’s have e-mailed me to say, can’t do the arranged time, so we re arranged and all good, do we now have to log all these as cancellations ? Thay’d all be black listed and we’d all be banned for not reporting, one thing you have to have in this game is a degree of flexibility ( no not that, but it does help ) mines not great on times I can punt,  but can change dates no problem.

[vw]

Do you read my posts ? You keep pumping this 4 cancelled punt thing to legitimize you failing point,

1st punt ( no booking , no A W acount ) was coming to Cardiff , but did’t happen, had plenty of warning.

2nd punt, she had an offer on , i e-mailed for an evening booking in Swansea,  she said great, but when she got home the slot was already gone, no booking, was never happening,

3rd punt, 3sum arranged by welsh Elise, in Cardiff,  no booking , just date and time , did’t happen but knew in advance.

4th punt, she did Cardiff , I booked on A W ( she has an acount now ) met at time arranged , left on time, Enjoyed my time,

Now where is the underhand actions in any of this, various p s’s have e-mailed me to say, can’t do the arranged time, so we re arranged and all good, do we now have to log all these as cancellations ? Thay’d all be black listed and we’d all be banned for not reporting, one thing you have to have in this game is a degree of flexibility ( no not that, but it does help ) mines not great on times I can punt,  but can change dates no problem.

yep i read the post that you said 4. the one i quoted on your list of past conquests (review)

As for cancels if it is habitual like this they are useful and is underhand hiding it .Just like you did with the bed and CRFC forced your hand, I don't for one minute believe you forgot that.

How many others have cancelled 3 times and not been mentioned, these habitual cancels might be ok for doormat punters but not for others. I would never book a 4th time, i doubt many would.   

[np500]

I only booked once.

[np500]

And I’m not bothered by a girl letting me know in advance of a change in times etc, works both ways.

[vw]

And I’m not bothered by a girl letting me know in advance of a change in times etc, works both ways.

Well, others are, would be useful info to share on reviews.   

[np500]

Well, others are, would be useful info to share on reviews.   

So you have never had a girl e-mail you and change the booking time or day ? Did you post this, including punts you never reviewed .

[vw]

So you have never had a girl e-mail you and change the booking time or day ? Did you post this, including punts you never reviewed .

I book on the day so wont happen

I often mention negative aspects on most punts for example the shower needing steps on the last punt, all to help other punters.

don't you think mentioning these thinks help?

Would someone mentioning roxy as a flak on her reviews been helpful to you?   I know you ignored me multiple times when warning, would it being in a  review have saved you being messed about?

[np500]

I knew she was flakey, all the reviews were good, she was coming here , confirmed the day before, so she’s a lier, she has to live with it,  I got pissed about for an hour and wasted a bit of fuel, it’s there livelihood, my  ( one of ) hobby, especially when thay have children ( as I do ) I know things can change and be very difficult for them sometimes, I apologize for not being a hard hearted fucker, but I give them reasonable leeway as I would expect from them if the shit hit the fan , like when my knee went and was on crutches, still made 3 hotel bookings (  ask Alex b )  and englishrebecca and Cassandra found a replacement, but would have turned up if no replacement was found. I’m not going to hang draw and quarter someone for a change of times, a degree of common sence, that’s all that’s needed 99% of the time.

[vw]

I knew she was flakey, all the reviews were good, she was coming here , confirmed the day before, so she’s a lier, she has to live with it,  I got pissed about for an hour and wasted a bit of fuel, it’s there livelihood, my  ( one of ) hobby, especially when thay have children ( as I do ) I know things can change and be very difficult for them sometimes, I apologize for not being a hard hearted fucker, but I give them reasonable leeway as I would expect from them if the shit hit the fan , like when my knee went and was on crutches, still made 3 hotel bookings (  ask Alex b )  and englishrebecca and Cassandra found a replacement, but would have turned up if no replacement was found. I’m not going to hang draw and quarter someone for a change of times, a degree of common sence, that’s all that’s needed 99% of the time.

Mentioning it is not hang draw and quartering them, it is just making people aware of potential pitfalls. Useful stuff for a review site.