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Offline JDRH

Sarah

There view does not surprise me , as to brand all is the current PC.

However I would not take in personally as they clearly do not know you.

If its something you really wish to do I am sure your will find away round the system

I totally agree with you tailpipe. There will be a way for Sarah to do the work she wants to. It is just a matter of finding the right inroads to an organisation that is enlightened enough to look at the person and not necessarily the persons job or whatever.

IMO, It shows how delusional you are.
It also shows that you have a lack of judgement of epic proportion
How on earth is any organisation going to be associated with a prostitute? charitable or otherwise?

To apply with your CV, the place will have to funded by a looney left body.

To these institutions you are a social outcast.
Whilst personally I have no problem and would not even think about judging your suitability for the job based on your occupation, those places have to show some moral compass.

Offline James999

So based on your irrational answer, of doctors and scientists you done then? nothing left to say?

Are you pissed ? you asked my view and I stated I have no particular view on their decision, and Doctors & Scientists is not exactly irrational.

If you're having a bad day PM me the words you want me to type and I'll put them up for you  :hi:
 
No real view on it, certainly wouldn't try to build a case to argue with the Doctors & scientists who would have given guidance on the rules  :hi:

Offline hollysbeenabadgirl

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I have been involved with a local women's charity, that deals with very vulnerable ladies. No issue with my profession. Quite the opposite.

That said, my profession was not revealed by my C.V. but in the interview with a bat-shit-crazy lady, who was simply chuffed for volunteers who have experience and a bit of bollocks about them.

Maybe take that approach in the future?


Offline sarahjayneleeds

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IMO, It shows how delusional you are.
It also shows that you have a lack of judgement of epic proportion
How on earth is any organisation going to be associated with a prostitute? charitable or otherwise?

To apply with your CV, the place will have to funded by a looney left body.

To these institutions you are a social outcast.

Whilst personally I have no problem and would not even think about judging your suitability for the job based on your occupation, those places have to show some moral compass.

For once I actually agree with you, as  said i should of ommitted the real me and made up a life  ;)

Offline Daffodil

I wouldn't employ a prossie either, for paid work or volunteered  :hi:

Offline Dani

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I am sorry but why would anyone put down on a CV that they were a prostitute.  society scorns us as a whole and most people still think what we do is criminal and against the law so no employer will be seen to employ anyone who puts this down as their employment.

It is one thing to be proud of what you do and another to put it on a CV.  All you had to do was say you were a therapist or did massages.  A bit of a lie yes but better than the truth.

The moment they saw that they no longer saw an employable woman but a person who could not be trusted and who in their eyes had no moral compass.

I think it was very foolish of you to even try to find any work voluntary of paid with that on your CV.

Offline DaveMugabe

agree with you Dani - seems a little naive to me.

I am sorry but why would anyone put down on a CV that they were a prostitute.  society scorns us as a whole and most people still think what we do is criminal and against the law so no employer will be seen to employ anyone who puts this down as their employment.

It is one thing to be proud of what you do and another to put it on a CV.  All you had to do was say you were a therapist or did massages.  A bit of a lie yes but better than the truth.

The moment they saw that they no longer saw an employable woman but a person who could not be trusted and who in their eyes had no moral compass.

I think it was very foolish of you to even try to find any work voluntary of paid with that on your CV.

Imo, those are harsh words, Dani.

In my working career, I occasionally had the responsibility of drawing up short lists for job interviews.  Very occasionally, I short-listed a candidate "from left field" as Sarah would appear to have been in this case [although, admittedly, never anyone who said she was an Escort] and made a point in the interview process of checking their motivation for applying for the post.  Off the top of my head, I can think of at least one such person who was appointed

Being a typical "soggy liberal" who tries to see both sides of most arguments, I can see why the organization might reject Sarah's application; but their attitude strikes me as very judgemental for an organization which is trying to help homeless people - I just hope they aren't as judgemental with their clientele.

Offline sarahjayneleeds

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I am sorry but why would anyone put down on a CV that they were a prostitute.  society scorns us as a whole and most people still think what we do is criminal and against the law so no employer will be seen to employ anyone who puts this down as their employment.

It is one thing to be proud of what you do and another to put it on a CV.  All you had to do was say you were a therapist or did massages.  A bit of a lie yes but better than the truth.

The moment they saw that they no longer saw an employable woman but a person who could not be trusted and who in their eyes had no moral compass.

I think it was very foolish of you to even try to find any work voluntary of paid with that on your CV
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Thanks for the patronising response Dani.    :hi: I sent an informal email believing it was right to be honest from the start given the people  I would be interacting with. I thought a charity such as this, given the people that use their services would be more open-minded to my current job status and see past that but sadly not.  Next time of course I am a secretary or a bored housewife.



Offline zatoichi

The problem is they would think you are only volunteering to try to get bookings. It sounds harsh but this will be what they will be thinking. Especially when you are so brazen about what it is you do - it would be assumed people do not admit this job unless they have ulterior motives. Which is trying to get bookings.

The problem is its girls before you doing this that has caused that stigma. I remember for example when searching for Kat's age a month or so back finding this article where it seems she was repeatedly going about the hospital trying to get patients to pay her for services.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hooker-in-a-hospital-escort-girl-charges-1677238
Really think you might be on the wrong track here.You did see the bit about it being work with the homeless.Now i know there are some arguments on here about what constitutes a fair charge,but i think we've yet to see someone charging half a can of spesh and hour.

Offline James999

Thanks for the patronising response Dani.   

It sounds like you expected everyone to blow smoke up your arse and tell you that being a pro$$ie was the best thing since sliced bread and that you are right and the world is wrong, where as the responses have been more honest and not to your liking  :music:

Offline smiths

I applied for a job to volunteer with homeless people and got knocked back because I was honest about my work :). As an escort I am not in a position to work with  people that are vulnerable for fear of leading them on the wrong path, in their opinion : I stated I can provide medical records, a CRB check , informal interview etc here is their reply


However, because of the circumstances around  your current employment, we would be unable to take you on as a volunteer.  We have policies and procedures that we have to abide by legally, and that underpin our work with vulnerable adults.  It would not be appropriate for us to employ you in either a paid or voluntary role with this particular service user group.

So forget life and general personal skills I'm labelled . :( I can and would help now I am inclined to lie on other apps and say I am a secretary or housefife  WTF  :rolleyes: What would you do? :unknown:

I wouldnt bother with them any further. If you lied and it came out it wouldnt help you or them. Instead look for something else that might interest you where you being a WG isnt a problem to the organisation you approach. My advice is always disclose or be fully aware it might come out at any time.

Offline AnthG

Next time of course I am a secretary or a bored housewife.

"Student" seems to be the universal think that is ok to put down I would say. And saying that most prostitutes are students, or at least according to AW, its also not a lie  :)

Offline wristjob

I think a big part of the problem here is the press. if the press get hod of a story that a WG is working for a charity it's always going to be a problem.

Offline Strawberry

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I have been involved with a local women's charity, that deals with very vulnerable ladies. No issue with my profession. Quite the opposite.

That said, my profession was not revealed by my C.V. but in the interview with a bat-shit-crazy lady, who was simply chuffed for volunteers who have experience and a bit of bollocks about them.

Maybe take that approach in the future?

This is mostly my experience. Many organisations have to be non-judgemental in their approach and 'inclusive' I'd be questioning their whole outlook if they are going to discriminate against you on basis of your occupation.

Offline James999

I'd be questioning their whole outlook if they are going to discriminate against you on basis of your occupation.

That sounds a good statement till people realise you are talking about prostitution, I don't think I've ever seen it on any form or drop down option as an occupation.  :hi:

Offline Strawberry

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I wouldnt bother with them any further. If you lied and it came out it wouldnt help you or them. Instead look for something else that might interest you where you being a WG isnt a problem to the organisation you approach. My advice is always disclose or be fully aware it might come out at any time.

Completely agree with this, lying could be worse than being honest and not all organisations will discriminate in the way you've experienced. You could also be at risk of blackmail, or someone trying to make things difficult for yourself.

Offline Strawberry

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That sounds a good statement till people realise you are talking about prostitution, I don't think I've ever seen it on any form or drop down option as an occupation.  :hi:

Not every one uses drop down menus, and not everyone lets the lack of the occupation on a form stop them from employing  or engaging someone.

Offline James999

Not every one uses drop down menus, and not everyone lets the lack of the occupation on a form stop them from employing  or engaging someone.

I didn't say it did, but your previous post implied it was a normal / accepted "occupation" it's clearly not  :music:


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