A question of ethics and safety?

[Ming]

Whilst doing some due diligence on some potential punts I came across some feedback which was worrying and related to a fellow punter using the services of a barebacker.
I believe the individual is now a banned member on UKP, but he has seen a number of the most popular girls in the area (past and present), my concern is whether to highlight this individual on this forum.

I don't like the thought of outing a fellow punters AW account, nor do I want to breach site etiquette / rules, but the evidence is indisputable and the good working girls in the area should have an opportunity to be aware of his antics.

Thoughts and guidance please gents.

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[Punterperson1971]

Couldn’t you high light the girls who he has seen even if it’s just the more popular or well known ones.just a thought

[Beamer]

A well reasoned comment by a highly valued member  -  if it is within the rules I think he should be outed. Perhaps other more experienced members need to comment.

[PUNTY43]

I agree with the comment above. It would be more useful to me to know the WG's he's seen so that I can make a decision on whether to avoid them.

[acorn50]

There have been a few occasions when I have noticed a potential punt, everything looks good on the profile, no mention of offering BB or a staunch statement along the lines of 'do not ask for BB' but when you look at some of the punters that have reviewed them there are punters that have a history of visiting WGs they openly offer BB.

Always makes me suspect that the WG might be offering BB 'under the counter' as it were, why else would a punter that goes for BB WGs visit them?

[bearcat69]

Banned member eh? Seen a lot of the popular prossies in the area and has recently fucked a BBing skank, eh?
Well... That's enough info for me to make a pretty good guess at who you are talking about.
If it is who I think you mean, then personally I could fuck if you 'out' his AW ID, especially if the stupid fucker is now fucking about with barebacking. That's up to you though. Perhaps Admin should comment on the matter first though.

Concur with what others are saying about atleast just name the prossie in question though. Naming a bareback offering prossie is just naming a barebacking prossie and definitely not against the rules.

[daz10150]

if the evidence is indisputable, then for the sake and safety of all (punters and WG's), naming him seems the logical step

[Punterperson1971]

if the evidence is indisputable, then for the sake and safety of all (punters and WG's), naming him seems the logical step

And you have been a memeber since 14/03/17 and this is the first comment you’ve made????

[Beamer]

Perhaps it is worth asking Admin as regards outing the banned member

[bearcat69]

And you have been a memeber since 14/03/17 and this is the first comment you’ve made????

Yeah, I found that weird too? What the hell?! Very odd first post to make.

[wolves lad]

Sorry to go against the majority but I don’t think he should be outed.

Personally I feel 100% confidentiality is a minimum requirement to be a member on here.

[Beamer]

I respect your view but if health issues may be involved with any number of WG's possibly involved his confidentiality is a low priority.

[Ming]

I have had another read through the rules and the only relevant part I can find is:

- Allegations against punter members
Admin can only judge members based upon their conduct online. The admin is not law enforcement and does not have investigatory powers and thus cannot determine whether any 'real-world' allegation against a member is true. Inaction by admin on unverified allegations does not mean endorsement of any alleged misconduct.

On that basis, I am going to highlight the WG profile and the feedback of the punter concerned. I will also report this post so that Admin can decide whether this is an acceptable course of action.


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[Littlefoot]

Had me worried for a second then, thought white Angel (3rd one down) was referring to me. I haven't seen her. 

[Punterperson1971]

I’ve only saw one of them ladies(not including the ones saying”not active”and that was hot Kim forgot about her.

[bearcat69]

Yep, suspected you were talking about him. He really must've lost his marbles.
It's ironic in a sense, as the reason he got himself banned all spurred from the actions of a barebacking punter causing upset. When you think about it, maybe explains why he got so touchy about it.
If you're wondering how I know which punter that is, well, lets just say he was hardly subtle, he once wrote a field report on AW which was almost an exact carbon copy of a review he posted on here.

Anyway, he's a prick IMO, don't care about seeing his AW outed, suspect he probably saw the BB prossie deliberately for attention seeking reasons anyway.

[Punterperson1971]

This wg was bought up about her second picture in her gallery looks like needles or something Along them lines.

[Ming]

This wg was bought up about her second picture in her gallery looks like needles or something Along them lines.

Correct, I highlighted the drugs paraphernalia in one of her photos, makes it even more worrying, not only is she barebacking but also shooting up drugs, if ever there were an invitation for a serious STI that would be it.

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[Ming]

Yep, suspected you were talking about him. He really must've lost his marbles.
It's ironic in a sense, as the reason he got himself banned all spurred from the actions of a barebacking punter causing upset. When you think about it, maybe explains why he got so touchy about it.
If you're wondering how I know which punter that is, well, lets just say he was hardly subtle, he once wrote a field report on AW which was almost an exact carbon copy of a review he posted on here.

Anyway, he's a prick IMO, don't care about seeing his AW outed, suspect he probably saw the BB prossie deliberately for attention seeking reasons anyway.

Yes, that's who I thought it was too.

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[Littlefoot]

Banned member eh? Seen a lot of the popular prossies in the area and has recently fucked a BBing skank, eh?
Well... That's enough info for me to make a pretty good guess at who you are talking about.

Just got it, took me long enough.... But got there in the end!

[_Rust_]

Well well well. Have a pretty good idea of who that is. Silly Fucker rather than Lazy Fucker it is from now on.

Made a big deal of telling us all how he couldn't cum on punts so pointless and reckless of him to put himself and us/others at risk...hmmm

[The Owl]

What an utter fucking twat for seeing a a barebacker, even more so if the needles comment is accurate (picture is too blurry for me).

I eventually sussed out who it is. I didn't realise how fluffy he was. I remember him using his time in a shit punt to have some interesting interactions with the lacklustre prossie he'd wasted his money on, that impressed me.

I don't give a damn how much he's claimed he had problems in the cock department. I've had the misfortune of a condom break (thankfully clean results but the waiting wasn't fun) and I had the misfortune of booking an escort who I was later informed had barebacked at least 1 client. I don't want to take any more unnecessary risks so fuck him, let the world know he's too high risk to take bookings from. I did a Google search on the barebacker and the first link to her was on a forum dedicated to Bareback punting! 

[Thing]

Ming,

Thanks for this important information, safety must be the top priority for everyone, you have my support on this one.

I will be avoiding any WG's with his recent feedback from now on. But my only concern is, after reading this thread he will be punting without leaving FB's. I suspect ???? I know he his now banned on UKP but I assume he is not on AW???

[Ming]

Ming,

Thanks for this important information, safety must be the top priority for everyone, you have my support on this one.

I will be avoiding any WG's with his recent feedback from now on. But my only concern is, after reading this thread he will be punting without leaving FB's. I suspect ???? I know he his now banned on UKP but I assume he is not on AW???

That is true, but, now his AW username is out there, if he tries to book any clean girl through his AW account his feedback from the druggy barebacker and, for those WG's that frequent this site (of which there are many) are available for all to link to him.

No doubt some WG's will have his phone number stored and may choose to highlight him on popular WG safety forums.....

Ming 

[Punterperson1971]

Thing is as well the girls that are not active could  be Bare backers.

[The Owl]

Thing is as well the girls that are not active could  be Bare backers.

We'll never know the full extent of barebacking punters and prostitutes (the omission of AW feedback and dead AW membership accounts by escorts could mean LazyFucker has been fucking them from the very beginning). It doesn't mean we should just turn a blind eye when we do find one. We have to be lucky every time we fuck someone, we have to only be unlucky once. I'd rather increase my chances of being lucky.

[Punterperson1971]

Wise words maybe you should change your name to wise owl.

[Hoping]

Very interesting debate.  I don't know who the prat actually is.

As long as you and the WG take reasonable precautions IE NOT BB then both parties should be OK so at the end of the day you are both not likely to catch anything.

So, although we have got an (at least one) absolute idiot in our ranks I don't think the rest of us need to get too worried.  Well I hope not, anyway.

[Beamer]

IMO-Your living in cuckoo land

[The Owl]

Wise words maybe you should change your name to wise owl.

It's okay. Every now and then I fly in to a window so I'll stick to staying up late and having a hoot.

[Ming]

We'll never know the full extent of barebacking punters and prostitutes (the omission of AW feedback and dead AW membership accounts by escorts could mean LazyFucker has been fucking them from the very beginning). It doesn't mean we should just turn a blind eye when we do find one. We have to be lucky every time we fuck someone, we have to only be unlucky once. I'd rather increase my chances of being lucky.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

You are a wise old owl.....

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[Juankerr]

Idiotic choice by him, hopefully WG's will see the feedback from a known barebacker and avoid bookings from him.

Hilarious that he voices concern about the state of her house in the feedback he gave her yet he's not bothered about her allowing bareback 

Despite him being banned previously it wouldn't be a big surprise if said punter had rejoined UKP and was likely flying under the radar.

[Ming]

Idiotic choice by him, hopefully WG's will see the feedback from a known barebacker and avoid bookings from him.

Hilarious that he voices concern about the state of her house in the feedback he gave her yet he's not bothered about her allowing bareback 

Despite him being banned previously it wouldn't be a big surprise if said punter had rejoined UKP and was likely flying under the radar.

As they more often than not do.

Ming 

[bearcat69]

As they more often than not do.

Ming 

He actually did come back not long after being banned with another profile and was quickly spotted and banned. But yeah, wouldn't be surprised if he's watching over this thread finding it all very amusing. As I believe I said to him not long before he got himself banned, he's pathetic.

[Juankerr]

It appears that feedback from 1 barebacker wasn't enough for him, he now has given and gained feedback from another WG with bareback and Unprotected sex on her likes list and she announces she is happy to do bareback on her AW profile FAQ also

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Frequently Asked Questions...

Q. Do you do bareback? A. yes I do

[legendinho]

I hope other girls  who don't offer  bb  stop seeing him otherwise  I want see them  my self if he gains more feedback from popular SP.

[Odd Job]

Doesn’t mean he did bareback them tho though.

[Beamer]

Doesn’t mean he did bareback them tho though.

Are you supporting his activities then?

[Brumish]

Seems like theres quite a few of the popular girls that have serviced this dude. Or am i reading the whole thing wrong? I can see Michelle Independant, Emily Blonde, Isla Brooks, Milk Snowdrop those i recognise (only by name and have not had a meet with any of them).
Although I havent been punting with AW girls too often in the last few years, it wouldnt surprise me if WGs succumb to these sorts.

[_Rust_]

It appears that feedback from 1 barebacker wasn't enough for him, he now has given and gained feedback from another WG with bareback and Unprotected sex on her likes list and she announces she is happy to do bareback on her AW profile FAQ also

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Frequently Asked Questions...

Q. Do you do bareback? A. yes I do

Well spotted Juan  He must have lost his mind. Left her a field report too with a mention of having FS with her, no mention of a condom.

Really hope that's it for him in terms of being able to book responsible WGs around the area now he's been exposed as a reckless twat

[Littlefoot]

Seems like theres quite a few of the popular girls that have serviced this dude. Or am i reading the whole thing wrong? I can see Michelle Independant, Emily Blonde, Isla Brooks, Milk Snowdrop those i recognise

Plus White Angel, hot Kim who are popular girls and British Lisa who was very popular, but has now retired. Has hot Kim also retired? Her profile seems to have gone.

[Odd Job]

Are you supporting his activities then?

I wouldn’t call it support, but if I saw a girl that appealed to me but she offered B.B. I’d have to consider it and ensure I covered up. You can bet that most girls are barebacking with somebody, even the forum favourites.

[Ming]

What a reckless attention-grabbing twat, I have no doubt he has read this thread and has deliberately left another feedback with a barebacker so that we can comment, and comment we shall.

It is interesting that he says in his 'field report' : "I did get the true Girlfriend experience and can’t wait for another meet soon." which indicates to me that he barebacked her.....

To be fair to the numerous girls we know to be clean that he has in his feedback, they are all prior to the barebacking feedback, let's hope none are deterred from seeing those that are still working because of this thread and, that some or all of them are putting the word out about him so he can be blacklisted.

What a sick twat.

Edit: Well spotted Juan 

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[Littlefoot]

To be fair to the numerous girls we know to be clean that he has in his feedback, they are all prior to the barebacking feedback, let's hope none are deterred from seeing those that are still working because of this thread

No, it certainly won't put me off.

[Juankerr]

Doesn’t mean he did bareback them tho though.

That is true but to actively pick WG's who are advertising bareback would be concerning wouldn't it?

[Juankerr]

Seems like theres quite a few of the popular girls that have serviced this dude. Or am i reading the whole thing wrong? I can see Michelle Independant, Emily Blonde, Isla Brooks, Milk Snowdrop those i recognise (only by name and have not had a meet with any of them).

If you read the feedback MI didn't actually meet him so a lucky escape for her.

[Beamer]

That is true but to actively pick WG's who are advertising bareback would be concerning wouldn't it?

Absolutely right.  Don't understand his thinking. Unless he is a mate of the bb idiot

[Juankerr]

Has hot Kim also retired? Her profile seems to have gone.

Yes she has. Her profile is still on my HL and says no longer available but its one of those that says "Sorry, this members profile information cannot be presented at this time" when you actually click on it.

[Juankerr]

if I saw a girl that appealed to me but she offered B.B. I’d have to consider it and ensure I covered up.

That would be your choice, when I see a profile that advertises bareback I simply don't consider them, even if she did appeal to me and I was covered up, it is just not worth the risk IMO.

[Juankerr]

To be fair to the numerous girls we know to be clean that he has in his feedback, they are all prior to the barebacking feedback, let's hope none are deterred from seeing those that are still working because of this thread and, that some or all of them are putting the word out about him so he can be blacklisted.

What a sick twat

+1

It wouldn't put me off seeing any of them, as you rightly say they were all before the recent bareback feedback.

Lets hope for everyone's sake that his cock drops off, fucking moron