Does viagra make your erection immune to terrible-service and bad attitudes?

[JayEZ2K]

When a WG provides shit service, rushing me, cold, bitchy, argumentative, etc, it instantly and completely kills my erection. I was wondering if Viagra makes your cock immune to shitty service? I was considering getting some to use a small dose when I TOFTT so at the least I could give terrible SPs a hard and proper pounding.

I realize it's a bit of a waste, but I'm trying to figure out how to get my punting frequency back up, despite lack of options and lots of poor service providers in my punting zones.

[sublimetoridiculous]

In my experience no.

Viagra does not give you an erection*, it just improves the erection you get when sexually stimulated. And if you are put off, you still lose the erection. Maybe less so, but you still lose it.

* If you read the leaflet in the box, it says that if Viagra does give you an erection directly for a long time to go to hospital as you have an adverse reaction.

[yandex]

Agree with the reply above - I can still lose my erection if the head takes over.

I use Kamagra and get a hard on over the course of a few hours, on and off, so I guess if you walked you'd still have chemical assistance for a last minute booking

[JayEZ2K]

Ok, thanks Sublime and Yandex. Looks like Viagra/Kamagra/Sildenafil cannot compensate for the psychological aspect of a terrible service provider. I will have to figure out a different solution. If it's entirely dependent on psychology, too bad I can't get turned on by arguing with WGs, like the pornstars who get off on a negative emotional exchange. Or guys that get off on being emotionally abused. Actually, that's a thought... I wonder if guys who get off on being emotionally abused love poor service providers? Perhaps they are the ones keeping them in business. 

[GreyDave]

  Nope but if you want to harden up and bang her fer England it does have that delay and control effect which is good when you are up for putting the WG and yourself through some hard paces . It don't help to produce second shot though so if you are a quick fire lad it will help the second hard on but I find no cum for a while

[Marmalade]

It’s maybe a case of how awful she is ... arrive at punt and see it’s a sour-faced Romanian robot barking instructions... I take a deep breath remind myself I’m the customer put on my Mr fucking charming face and say “how about I give you a back rub?” That shuts her up  hopefully for a few seconds, hides her miserable expression, gives me a view of her arse while I decide next stage, maybe doggy.

A hole os a hole and if I can block out her attempts to ruin the punt then half a V is power to the wood.

[GreyDave]

  just got me thinking when I was 20 ish and banging WG`s the younger ones where shite the older 40-50 year old ones were very polite and encouraging many allowing a second pop As a 57 year old it still seems the same as the younger ones expect a quick shag and for me to be out in 10 mins   It was in fact an older WG who first suggested I use V to bang her analey better Not looked back

[munterhunter]

NO. Viagra works by working on the blood vessels so if you get stimulated you get hard overdosing can give you headaches but as far as I know overdosing won't give you better or longer lasting erections. Other ED drugs work better for some people.
The only way to maintain an erection while not being stimulated as far as I know are:
INJECTION: You inject a drug using a fine needle into the flaccid penis within 15 minutes or so you get hard and stay hard until the drug wears off.
IMPLANT: They surgically implant a tube alongside the urethra in the penis this is attached to a pump device in the scrotum from which you can inflate and deflate the tube as required.
These two options are a "last resort" in terms of ED treatment.

[peter purves]

When a WG provides shit service, rushing me, cold, bitchy, argumentative, etc, it instantly and completely kills my erection. I was wondering if Viagra makes your cock immune to shitty service? I was considering getting some to use a small dose when I TOFTT so at the least I could give terrible SPs a hard and proper pounding.

I realize it's a bit of a waste, but I'm trying to figure out how to get my punting frequency back up, despite lack of options and lots of poor service providers in my punting zones.

You need a change of attitude first to become immune to WGs who wish to deliberately wish to provide you with a poor service.

Personally I would not recommend the use of viagra - unless on medical grounds. It can become a two edge sword tbh.

[Jock D]

The only way to maintain an erection while not being stimulated as far as I know are:
INJECTION: You inject a drug using a fine needle into the flaccid penis within 15 minutes or so you get hard and stay hard until the drug wears off.
IMPLANT: They surgically implant a tube alongside the urethra in the penis this is attached to a pump device in the scrotum from which you can inflate and deflate the tube as required.
These two options are a "last resort" in terms of ED treatment.

I remember watching a tv programme a few years back where the guy had the implant & pump thing Tbh, when the little helper pills stop working for me...I'll just pack it in.

[GreyDave]

I remember watching a tv programme a few years back where the guy had the implant & pump thing Tbh, when the little helper pills stop working for me...I'll just pack it in.

Rather than use the pump thing get a WG to blow it up mate I`ll get me coat

[Wayne Scott]

NO. Viagra works by working on the blood vessels so if you get stimulated you get hard overdosing can give you headaches but as far as I know overdosing won't give you better or longer lasting erections. Other ED drugs work better for some people.
The only way to maintain an erection while not being stimulated as far as I know are:
INJECTION: You inject a drug using a fine needle into the flaccid penis within 15 minutes or so you get hard and stay hard until the drug wears off.
IMPLANT: They surgically implant a tube alongside the urethra in the penis this is attached to a pump device in the scrotum from which you can inflate and deflate the tube as required.
These two options are a "last resort" in terms of ED treatment.

There is another approach which is very rarely mentioned anywhere. It’s difficult to find on the internet as there is apparently some pop group with the same name (MUSE).
This involves a small plastic insertion device, placing a small soluble pelmet into the urethra, not through the skin like a hypodermic. Unlike some other treatments, it doesn’t require physical stimulation. If using it in conjunction with a cock ring, make sure it’s easily removable, instantly. Never use a metal one. It might involve the fire brigade, or worse. (Believe me, I know.)
It is available, in some cases, on the NHS.
I am not a doctor. If you are interested, I suggest you ask one.    External Link/Members Only

[JayEZ2K]

You need a change of attitude first to become immune to WGs who wish to deliberately wish to provide you with a poor service.

Any advice into the thought process? The best I've done was when I lost wood 3 times in a session, each time when the WG would do something bitchy. But I rolled with it, keeping it playful sassy which helped so I could get hard again each time. When I get turned on, I want to turn my brain off and just enjoy the experience. I think that the psychological aspect of terrible service is summed up as creating distractions and noise in my thoughts. One part is being aware and empathetic with their feelings (boredom, annoyance, dislike), and the other part is my own displeasure, thinking about how bad the service is, the waste of time and money, etc. Maybe there is a different thought process to deal with that situation.

It would be hilarious and possibly useful if they could replicate terrible service in porn. Watching that would condition you to be used to it. Closest I could think of is FemDom (but they actually like the sex) or RipHerUp (rough sex with girls who don't like it).

It’s maybe a case of how awful she is ... arrive at punt and see it’s a sour-faced Romanian robot barking instructions... I take a deep breath remind myself I’m the customer put on my Mr fucking charming face and say “how about I give you a back rub?” That shuts her up  hopefully for a few seconds, hides her miserable expression, gives me a view of her arse while I decide next stage, maybe doggy.

A hole os a hole and if I can block out her attempts to ruin the punt then half a V is power to the wood.

So being extra friendly and kind in an attempt to warm her up. Great suggestion, and something work on immediately.



Not as practical, but it would be funny to use a walkman that plays sexy music mixed with sexy girl sounds of encouragement and enjoyment. Put that on and then completely ignore her bitchy shit, which won't even be heard!    Bitch would probably pull the headphones out though.

[JayEZ2K]

... cock ring...

The cock ring might be a good idea. I've never used one. Is it easy to use with a WG, and does it work to keep you hard? Even if she starts being rude/bitchy?

[peter purves]

The cock ring might be a good idea. I've never used one. Is it easy to use with a WG, and does it work to keep you hard? Even if she starts being rude/bitchy?

Sorry I have no idea about the cognitive processes that you ask of above.

With regard to this, sorry I can see many WGs may not wish to have sex with a punter having a cock ring 

[Wayne Scott]

The cock ring might be a good idea. I've never used one. Is it easy to use with a WG, and does it work to keep you hard? Even if she starts being rude/bitchy?

Once you have problems in this area, there are so many variables and interactions affecting your mind and body that it's impossible to predict how something might affect yourself, let alone anyone else. All you can really do is try, though that can involve expense for little benefit. Personally, I've never had a negative reaction from any WG about any slightly unusual equipment or medicinal aids. They can be quite interested and hard to surprise. I try to avoid rude/bitchy girls and generally succeed. I guess it helps a lot if they speak good English.

[Analist]

As already said, Viagra and related ED drugs work by maintaining the lifetime of your sexual stimulation. If your brain stops feeling sexual, the drugs are not going to help.
However, what might help you is a mood-altering drug that makes you less stressed or annoyed by a WGs poor service. You could take a sedative like a benzodiazepine or Xanax or any other agent that has a calming effect.
I've not tried the combo of Viagra + benzodiazepine so I don't know if it will work but it's worth a shot.

[Marmalade]

As already said, Viagra and related ED drugs work by maintaining the lifetime of your sexual stimulation. If your brain stops feeling sexual, the drugs are not going to help.
However, what might help you is a mood-altering drug that makes you less stressed or annoyed by a WGs poor service. You could take a sedative like a benzodiazepine or Xanax or any other agent that has a calming effect.
I've not tried the combo of Viagra + benzodiazepine so I don't know if it will work but it's worth a shot.

No, benzos can actually cause sexual probs. Anything that raises your dopamine levels without interacting is ok.

[Hectorshouse]

Jay,

Whether you do or don't take stimulants for erections, it won't help if the WG is not as you would of liked.

You seem to see a number of WG's that are Romanians, Oriental or go into massage parlors with the cost of the punt is no more than £100 - £120 per hour.

Try a WG slightly more expensive, with feedback and reviews of here - if you get a better service and enjoy the punt - then you could drop the idea of the stimulants.

Good luck

[BeebleBro]

No, benzos can actually cause sexual probs. Anything that raises your dopamine levels without interacting is ok.

Can you recommend anything to raise Dopamine levels ?

[willie loman]

I read an interesting interview with a doctor who had had prostate probs and was on Viagra. He actually took one everyday regardless of whether a shag was on the cards, now that the cost has dropped its a viable policy for anyone. My own view is that you should aim for a shag as frequently as possible, but only one shag, those who are forcing themselves to have 2 or even 3 pops per session, are going down the wrong road, yes we all did that when we were young to show what studs we were, but its actually a waste of an orgasm. As for the op, find a girl you like and stick with her, you clearly don't have a reliable erection, and need a bond with the lady. There are lots of men like that, they just don't talk about it, with a loud voice in the pub.

[Hectorshouse]

As for the op, find a girl you like and stick with her, you clearly don't have a reliable erection, and need a bond with the lady.

+1 good advice!

[TTGR]

I’m going to go against the grain here OP......and say yes it does to an extent, in my experience.

I do take it for most punts now despite having no major erectile issues. I noticed even if I’m pretty ‘meh’ about the goings on I can ALWAYS get rock hard during Oral, hence allowing me to leave with a semblance of punt satisfaction.
This isn’t true for penetration though, I’m same as you if the SP is not pleasurable company.

If Diane Abbott MP sucked on my shrivelled cock and I had viagra in the system.....guaranteed boner within seconds

[JayEZ2K]

Jay,

Whether you do or don't take stimulants for erections, it won't help if the WG is not as you would of liked.

You seem to see a number of WG's that are Romanians, Oriental or go into massage parlors with the cost of the punt is no more than £100 - £120 per hour.

Try a WG slightly more expensive, with feedback and reviews of here - if you get a better service and enjoy the punt - then you could drop the idea of the stimulants.

Good luck

Thanks Hectorshouse. Unfortunately there are not many options along my commute route, with touring Romanians making up the vast majority of WGs. My goal was to punt 2-3 times per week after work, and I do like the idea of TOFTT with unreviewed girls, so I wanted to find a way to eek out a decent vanilla session under poor conditions and bad service. If I could do that, I'd be a punting machine.

And then I travel to London about once a week, where I lean strongly towards well reviewed girls due to the time commitment to get there. Although I do TOFTT if the risk seems lower.

I'm still relatively new to this, so I am still learning and figuring out what works. There was good advice on this thread which I am trying to implement, including yours. Cheers!

[cash2spare]

I think you need to get a young fit as fuck wg and you should get wood easily and shoot gallons of cum.
Viagra is for fucking older cheaper wgs who are not stunnas.
Good luck.

[peter purves]

I’m going to go against the grain here OP......and say yes it does to an extent, in my experience.

I do take it for most punts now despite having no major erectile issues. I noticed even if I’m pretty ‘meh’ about the goings on I can ALWAYS get rock hard during Oral, hence allowing me to leave with a semblance of punt satisfaction.
This isn’t true for penetration though, I’m same as you if the SP is not pleasurable company.

If Diane Abbott MP sucked on my shrivelled cock and I had viagra in the system.....guaranteed boner within seconds

Out of interest so what happens post-punt with the effect of the viagra still raging?

Cheers

[TTGR]

Out of interest so what happens post-punt with the effect of the viagra still raging?

Cheers

Nothing much, generally wears off quickly (usually take the viagra 60-90 mins before punt). I don't bother trying for a double pop etc. so can't honestly say if viagra enhances that ability.

[peter purves]

Nothing much, generally wears off quickly (usually take the viagra 60-90 mins before punt). I don't bother trying for a double pop etc. so can't honestly say if viagra enhances that ability.

Out of interest what mg dosage are you using? My experience is that it lasted forever 

So much so...never again 

[TTGR]

Out of interest what mg dosage are you using? My experience is that it lasted forever 

So much so...never again 

I have 50mg tablets but cut them in half so 25mg. I've certainly heard some chaps get a really prolonged effect like you experienced, never happened to me but as I originally posted, increased sensitivity and achieving maximum hardness is really why I've carried on using it.

[peter purves]

I have 50mg tablets but cut them in half so 25mg. I've certainly heard some chaps get a really prolonged effect like you experienced, never happened to me but as I originally posted, increased sensitivity and achieving maximum hardness is really why I've carried on using it.

Cheers!

I can see why this method might work for you. Although I have known some who have suggested 25 mg did not help.

[Strokemeplease]

The cock ring might be a good idea. I've never used one. Is it easy to use with a WG, and does it work to keep you hard? Even if she starts being rude/bitchy?

Yes, cock rings do work.  They get me firmer and I think that I last longer; part of that might be due to its giving me confidence that I won't lose the erection. I am nearer to 70 than 60, and with a cock ring I can fuck even without sildenafil.  The combination of 50 mg sildenafil and a cock ring gets me as hard as when I was half the age I am now. As for whether it still works with a bitchy WG, I haven't tried that, but it would give a conversation topic.

[Bogof60]

I think it depends on your own attitude
If I do get an arsey WG then my mindset is I have paid you a good wedge so I am going to fuck you regardless
The only thing that let's me down is if I am really tired and once the bone goes it's gone for good

[Terryray]

When a WG provides shit service, rushing me, cold, bitchy, argumentative, etc, it instantly and completely kills my erection. I was wondering if Viagra makes your cock immune to shitty service? I was considering getting some to use a small dose when I TOFTT so at the least I could give terrible SPs a hard and proper pounding.

I realize it's a bit of a waste, but I'm trying to figure out how to get my punting frequency back up, despite lack of options and lots of poor service providers in my punting zones.

nah not a bit in my case , only need a slight turn off  and it goes  dead mind u i am 74 i need  more encouragement not less, i used to see a working girl in  Kensington Liverpool and she  had a customer  who used to come round with a paper and carpet slippers, (just nipping out for a paper love)  he was 86 when he stopped coming round , later she and 4 others  were summoned to a solicitors office and were left £ 500 each  for services  rendered,   this was in 2002 i still think of him now. a god among men 

[Terryray]

You need a change of attitude first to become immune to WGs who wish to deliberately wish to provide you with a poor service.

Personally I would not recommend the use of viagra - unless on medical grounds. It can become a two edge sword tbh.

thanks for that mate i was about to ask that question  , ive never tried a n overdose, some times i can get a nose bleed, with the Calais,  which is a bit off putting

[Bogof60]

nah not a bit in my case , only need a slight turn off  and it goes  dead mind u i am 74 i need  more encouragement not less, i used to see a working girl in  Kensington Liverpool and she  had a customer  who used to come round with a paper and carpet slippers, (just nipping out for a paper love)  he was 86 when he stopped coming round , later she and 4 others  were summoned to a solicitors office and were left £ 500 each  for services  rendered,   this was in 2002 i still think of him now. a god among men

Good man
Respect

[Hectorshouse]

Thanks Hectorshouse. Unfortunately there are not many options along my commute route, with touring Romanians making up the vast majority of WGs. My goal was to punt 2-3 times per week after work, and I do like the idea of TOFTT with unreviewed girls, so I wanted to find a way to eek out a decent vanilla session under poor conditions and bad service. If I could do that, I'd be a punting machine.

And then I travel to London about once a week, where I lean strongly towards well reviewed girls due to the time commitment to get there. Although I do TOFTT if the risk seems lower.

I'm still relatively new to this, so I am still learning and figuring out what works. There was good advice on this thread which I am trying to implement, including yours. Cheers!

Jay - your welcome, but you need to think further afield, seems you are taking what is available, instead of researching and then making the booking. I appreciate that the initial thought may come to you and you need an instant fix, but I suggest a more planned approach thinking and booking ahead.

Seems to work for me, working on April bookings just now. Keep at it, you will find the right solution for you eventually.

HH

[JayEZ2K]

nah not a bit in my case , only need a slight turn off  and it goes  dead mind u i am 74 i need  more encouragement not less, i used to see a working girl in  Kensington Liverpool and she  had a customer  who used to come round with a paper and carpet slippers, (just nipping out for a paper love)  he was 86 when he stopped coming round , later she and 4 others  were summoned to a solicitors office and were left £ 500 each  for services  rendered,   this was in 2002 i still think of him now. a god among men

Wow, that's a cool story. Thanks for sharing.

[Bananaman80]

L-theanie if its phycological for dutch courage, cialas if its real ed or use both like me as a confidence tool   

[Digger1965]

I take V to ensure a former erection and consequently a more prolonged enjoyable punt, however, I have experienced a flop when the WG has the wrong attitude. In my opinion , if they have the wrong attitude we should make sure we stop seeing them.

[myothernameis]

I took Viagra around 1 hr before cj greedy girls gang bang, got to venue, and stripped, and all the guys waited, some girls arrived, and the tabs kicked in, and had the erection for around most of my stay, around 90 mins

even girls I would consider mingers, didn't lose the erection, maybe due to the fact, there was action going on, and that maybe was the turn on

[peter purves]

I took Viagra around 1 hr before cj greedy girls gang bang, got to venue, and stripped, and all the guys waited, some girls arrived, and the tabs kicked in, and had the erection for around most of my stay, around 90 mins

even girls I would consider mingers, didn't lose the erection, maybe due to the fact, there was action going on, and that maybe was the turn on

What dosage?

[JonasG]

If you don't actually have ED and just want to take viagra for "security" when punting, 25mg will work fine for you.

[OakTree]

If you don't actually have ED and just want to take viagra for "security" when punting, 25mg will work fine for you.

Yes that’s exactly what I do but as someone pointed out earlier it becomes a double edged sword. You get too reliant on the safety net. I’m tending to move away from pharmaceutical aids and go a more natural route. Ginseng, pomegranate juice and l-Arginine. I’ve found that even taking a small dose 25mg it fucks the rest of my day up. Dull headache and general jaded feeling.

[myothernameis]

What dosage?

Three years ago, cant remember what the dosage was, but took 1 tablet, and split it in half, tookone half of the tablet 1 hr before, and the other half, as I entered the premises

[JonasG]

Yes that’s exactly what I do but as someone pointed out earlier it becomes a double edged sword. You get too reliant on the safety net. I’m tending to move away from pharmaceutical aids and go a more natural route. Ginseng, pomegranate juice and l-Arginine. I’ve found that even taking a small dose 25mg it fucks the rest of my day up. Dull headache and general jaded feeling.

Oh definitely.

The amount of naps I've have to had post-viagra.