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[knightrider007]

How do you measure how much someone deserves to earn? I'm not sure it's accurate to average what they could be earning elsewhere, and saying that's what they should earn, I mean arbitrarily someone who is degree educated in a hard subject should earn more I guess, but I don't think it's really all that simple/back and white (not that you said this). How much do footballers deserve to earn? Would you measure labor output vs the average and tally it up like that lol.

its easy......responsibility. So  Doctors, lawyers, accountants, the armed forces, firemen are all manifestly underpaid. Escorts, hairdressers, celebrities, footballers would come under the category grossly overpaid.

[sparky13]

cant believe this is even a debate! Hookers do not deserve a penny, they get away with charging because most blokes who can afford to pay take the shortcut to getting laid as dont have the time or inclination to have to go through the pulling process. That for students who have no money. If we are talking about who deserves what then hookers should be paying their clients as most of the time they are getting laid by men more intelligent, more educated and more successful  than them so they should be grateful to be spending time with us. You are 100% correct saying it is market forces, it isnt even arguable.

The fact many escorts think they 'deserve' what they earn just re-confirms my other thread about how utterly delusional and neurotic women are. As yo uagain correctly point out, hookers are basicaly uneployable hence why they are hookers, it the last resort for them in their eyes, although they should be grateful to be getting to spend their time with men who in normal circumstances would be way out of their league.

Any ladies reading this, feel free to copy and paste it onto SAAFE and mumsnet!!

Good grief. Why are you so desperate for people to react?

[knightrider007]

Good grief. Why are you so desperate for people to react?

im not requiring a reaction, but women require setting straight as it seems they are totally irrational on many issues. Are you male or female, i have not read all your posts? Women's hypocrisy knows no bounds!

[sparky13]

No, I am not a nurse. And no, it is not because of your number of posts. Post number doesn't bother me. There are some excellent members here with fewer than one hundred, and some clueless ones with greater than a thousand.

You don't seem to understand the difference between market-force and deserving to earn. Does a footballer deserve to earn £200,000 per week? No. But they do, because of the market-force.

£20 per hour is far more than most prossies could earn away from prostitution. So I think it is fair.

I perfectly understand the difference. I just don't agree with you.

The one difference in my eyes between being a prossie and anything else is the taboo factor. They put a price on this and we pay it. Frankly, when I read about dealing with worms and projectile diarrhea (among other things) I don't blame them.

If they all charged less then great; but they don't. Trying to compare them with nurses is not comparing apples with apples.

[sparky13]

im not requiring a reaction, but women require setting straight as it seems they are totally irrational on many issues. Are you male or female, i have not read all your posts? Women's hypocrisy knows no bounds!

I'm a man mate. You just need some vinegar to put on that massive chip on your shoulder.

[knightrider007]

Good grief. Why are you so desperate for people to react?

just checked, you are a bloke. You must not have had much experience with women, im not being critical or dismisssive, it just so hapens ive worked in a number of different sectors and met women personally and professionally from all walks of life, plus ive frequented many escorts. There are the odd nice female about, but my experience is that 95% of women are deluded, lying, scheming bitches only after men for their money and status.

[knightrider007]

I'm a man mate. You just need some vinegar to put on that massive chip on your shoulder.

no chips here mate, other than the DVD collection. Just giving a dose of reality. Think it through, why dont you one day you have time take a trip to a local county court.

[knightrider007]

I perfectly understand the difference. I just don't agree with you.

The one difference in my eyes between being a prossie and anything else is the taboo factor. They put a price on this and we pay it. Frankly, when I read about dealing with worms and projectile diarrhea (among other things) I don't blame them.

If they all charged less then great; but they don't. Trying to compare them with nurses is not comparing apples with apples.

Sorry, this post is off kilter.  Escorts have a choice to not partake in activities. If they go through with something, they shouldnt moan about it. Both the incidents you mention should result in asking the punter to leave and give him some money back.

And what taboo factor? There is no tabo factor, the average woman has slept with between 20-30 different sexual partners. Escorts arent judged morally by their peers, alot get ostrasised due to jealousy.

[Punter Girl]

I'm guessing your comment above is because I haven't made over 3000 posts. This, of course, has nothing to do with my having some sort of a life away from posting on a punting forum.

I'm also guessing your a nurse? I'm sorry that things are difficult for you. Yes, as someone who has worked for the NHS and Local Government I suppose I feel I know something, but nothing compared with your mighty wisdom.

To be fair though, this is still no comparison to what a WG does. Maybe you could explain your theory behind market forces? In my mind, if it was commonly felt that £20/hr was the upper limit a WG should be paid, then this would have become a consensus and "market forces" would have affected supply and demand, to the extent that their current prices were unrealistic.

At the end of the day this is as forum and people will disagree. I respect your opinion but don't agree.

Sparky13 ignore your detractors..... Most HAVE to find cheap women because they are not ever going to find good employment or a have a quality woman in their lives. You strike me as a man who has both. Pity them and move on!

[sparky13]

Sparky13 ignore your detractors..... Most HAVE to find cheap women because they are not ever going to find good employment or a have a quality woman in their lives. You strike me as a man who has both. Pity them and move on!

Oh dear; whilst I'm sure this was well intended, I don't think it will go down well. I've seen lesser "crimes" result in a ban.

As for ignoring those I don't agree with - this is absolutely the way forward. Someone who knows precisely fuck all about me, telling me what experience I have? This is not something I consider worthy of a response.

For as long as it's ok to post on here without 000's of previous posts, I'll continue with my point of view. I'll be fair, to the point and will obviously disagree with stuff that is, frankly, bullshit.

[Daffodil]

Sparky13 ignore your detractors..... Most HAVE to find cheap women because they are not ever going to find good employment or a have a quality woman in their lives. You strike me as a man who has both. Pity them and move on!

lol (sorry rpg). There you go sparky. Damned praise indeed.

[vorian]

Sparky13 ignore your detractors..... Most HAVE to find cheap women because they are not ever going to find good employment or a have a quality woman in their lives. You strike me as a man who has both. Pity them and move on!

Just goes to show, lesbian punters are real punters yes but also women and often more reactive, unstable and aggressive women. Have any lesbian punters lasted on here for a long time or do they all revert back to type and decide that supporting the "Sisterhood" is more important than fucking hot women in exchange for money. Your no better than the rest of us or because your a woman and not a dirty, disgusting man. My money is just as good as yours to a prossie doesn't matter what you have or do not having swinging between your legs.

[vorian]

A nurse clears that shit up, as well as a million other jobs you wouldn't want to do (but are thankful that somebody does). Nurses have also done a three year degree and are considered professionals.

And they earn nothing like £20 per hour.

You need to get your priorities fucking straight. A prossie 'earns' the money she does because of market forces, not because she deserves it.

I could not agree more, very sensible and realistic post. Market forces I pay the same now to get my hair cut as I did 15 years ago. Why because the supply of women who offer to cut my hair has increased,  why because it is seen as a job which needs few qualifications and is easy to do. No qualifications are needed to be a prossie, the bad ones think it will be easy and put no effort in, the good ones will treat it as a professional business and realize they have to put effort in to be successful.  I enjoy and respect good prossie and despise the bad ones. What makes a good prossie good or a bad prossie bad, seems to be the endless subjective underlying debate which UKP wrestles with 24/7.

[NIK]

cant believe this is even a debate! Hookers do not deserve a penny, they get away with charging because most blokes who can afford to pay take the shortcut to getting laid as dont have the time or inclination to have to go through the pulling process. That for students who have no money. If we are talking about who deserves what then hookers should be paying their clients as most of the time they are getting laid by men more intelligent, more educated and more successful  than them so they should be grateful to be spending time with us. You are 100% correct saying it is market forces, it isnt even arguable.

The fact many escorts think they 'deserve' what they earn just re-confirms my other thread about how utterly delusional and neurotic women are. As yo uagain correctly point out, hookers are basicaly uneployable hence why they are hookers, it the last resort for them in their eyes, although they should be grateful to be getting to spend their time with men who in normal circumstances would be way out of their league.

Any ladies reading this, feel free to copy and paste it onto SAAFE and mumsnet!!

Adhering to the ethos of UKP or just shit stirring? Take your pick.

[adindas]

Prossies do not deserve £100+ per hour. In any other job they'd be lucky to earn more than minimum wage. We pay it purely because of market-forces.

I fully agree and there are quite a few evidence showing this. For instances people  already see that local escorts start reducing their price since the EE escorts start flooding the market.

I used to pay £150 but nowadays I only pay of maximum £50 for half and £80 for an hour as I can easily find the WGs in this price bracket in London with the same quality that I had got when I was doing £150 punting.

[SirPhilipXX]

Oh dear; whilst I'm sure this was well intended, I don't think it will go down well. I've seen lesser "crimes" result in a ban.

As for ignoring those I don't agree with - this is absolutely the way forward. Someone who knows precisely fuck all about me, telling me what experience I have? This is not something I consider worthy of a response.

For as long as it's ok to post on here without 000's of previous posts, I'll continue with my point of view. I'll be fair, to the point and will obviously disagree with stuff that is, frankly, bullshit.

I'm sure you will Sparky, until you yourself are banned....whoops!

[GlasgowTanya]

Haha this is funny. I love that punters are reading the saafe boards to see what we are up to just as I read these boards for the same reasons! Well I feel less of a weirdo now! (not that much less!) Thanks for reminding me not to put too much info in my posts! 

Hahaha, same here. Escorting is a funny business 

[GlasgowTanya]

The fact many escorts think they 'deserve' what they earn just re-confirms my other thread about how utterly delusional and neurotic women are. As yo uagain correctly point out, hookers are basicaly uneployable hence why they are hookers, it the last resort for them in their eyes, although they should be grateful to be getting to spend their time with men who in normal circumstances would be way out of their league.

What about those studying for a degree who can't handle a skint student life? I gave up an absolutely great job in sales to go back to studying, and escorting funds my lifestyle so I don't get into massive debt. I don't moan and mump about the job because I enjoy it, 9 out of 10 clients are great and the money is great. I definitely don't tar every client with the same brush in the way it seems your doing with escorts. It's possible you've always had bad experiences with escorts, I know when I have a bad client I get the urge to hate "all men" but then someone decent comes along and faith is resorted SAAFE is great for venting anger about particularly bad clients so that we don't hate you all!

Reading through both forums is funny though, there is plenty of bitching on both sides

[Jack_soa]

Just wanted to get in the rant a bit. I think its true that price is dictated by market forces, which is good. People stop paying it, it goes down. I do also agree that some times WG's seem to be charging a lot i mean £500 a week is average for a bus driver (i think) and if a WG is charging £150 an hour it is a bit much I think. On the other side of things I imagine you do get some really horrible punters (that worms thing is just WRONG! ) which may lead to shit service. As a student and a punter with no real income I hate bad providers more than most because i can afford to punt once every couple of months and if its bad I cant go to see someone else, just cant afford it  .

 Its all about being "zen" about the situation. .

[Ali Katt]

Just wanted to get in the rant a bit. I think its true that price is dictated by market forces, which is good. People stop paying it, it goes down. I do also agree that some times WG's seem to be charging a lot i mean £500 a week is average for a bus driver (i think) and if a WG is charging £150 an hour it is a bit much I think. On the other side of things I imagine you do get some really horrible punters (that worms thing is just WRONG! ) which may lead to shit service. As a student and a punter with no real income I hate bad providers more than most because i can afford to punt once every couple of months and if its bad I cant go to see someone else, just cant afford it  .

 Its all about being "zen" about the situation. .

Some good point and I'm sure a bad punter can ruin a prossie's day, but most prossie that are bad are bad with everyone. If you look at most field reports whilst some may argue most experiences are similar to the original posters good or bad. As long as you clean and polite you have nothing to worry about, if the prossie is a bitch, she's probably like that to everyone.

[Festisio]

I fully agree and there are quite a few evidence showing this. For instances people  already see that local escorts start reducing their price since the EE escorts start flooding the market.

I used to pay £150 but nowadays I only pay of maximum £50 for half and £80 for an hour as I can easily find the WGs in this price bracket in London with the same quality that I had got when I was doing £150 punting.

I predominantly punt around the £150 mark so I am interested in hearing about these £80/hour ones that are great.

Since it's easy to find them, could you share 5 of these £80/hr ones with every one in this thread ?

Many thanks.

[Dani]

In reality no one deserves to earn £100 or more an hour.  However we do a job that not many other women would be willing to do and have to get up close and personal with men that we would probably avoid in public life so I do think for that alone we deserve a fairly good wage.
Perhaps when the industry is regulated and not carrying so much stigma with it then prices will go down if more and more women start doing it.  Although they wont get much lower than now as women just would not do it for much less.

Think about it how many of you cold go down on a 78 year old fat, skin tags covered, not very clean woman and make her feel special? Hour after hour day after day?
Not every punter punts just for fun. Some do it as they have no other way or hope of having a sexual relationship with anyone due to either very bad looks, crap attitude or even both.  Yes we get lovely clients but we also get the not nice at all ones and have to act the same to each and everyone of them. 
Try DFK on an old person who due to age and bad oral hygiene over the years has three pegs instead of teeth and a thick spongy tongue with little dents all over it.  A bit like having a dry bath sponge filling your mouth.  I had that today yet managed to hide how I felt and give him a bloody good time so much so he has already re booked.  It is not always easy work.  The actual shagging bit is easy, its the touching and kissing and sucking on dribbling cock that makes the job hard.  gain not all men are like this but we have to treat those who are the same as the handsome guys who come in

[vorian]

In reality no one deserves to earn £100 or more an hour.  However we do a job that not many other women would be willing to do and have to get up close and personal with men that we would probably avoid in public life so I do think for that alone we deserve a fairly good wage.
Perhaps when the industry is regulated and not carrying so much stigma with it then prices will go down if more and more women start doing it.  Although they wont get much lower than now as women just would not do it for much less.

Think about it how many of you cold go down on a 78 year old fat, skin tags covered, not very clean woman and make her feel special? Hour after hour day after day?
Not every punter punts just for fun. Some do it as they have no other way or hope of having a sexual relationship with anyone due to either very bad looks, crap attitude or even both.  Yes we get lovely clients but we also get the not nice at all ones and have to act the same to each and everyone of them. 
Try DFK on an old person who due to age and bad oral hygiene over the years has three pegs instead of teeth and a thick spongy tongue with little dents all over it.  A bit like having a dry bath sponge filling your mouth.  I had that today yet managed to hide how I felt and give him a bloody good time so much so he has already re booked.  It is not always easy work.  The actual shagging bit is easy, its the touching and kissing and sucking on dribbling cock that makes the job hard.  gain not all men are like this but we have to treat those who are the same as the handsome guys who come in

Well, that does get you thinking for sure.

[CatBBW]

The actual shagging bit is easy, its the touching and kissing and sucking on dribbling cock that makes the job hard. 

^^^ THIS.

I could quite easily be a £20 per pump and dump service, as the average man takes just 3 mins from entry to ejaculation it seems easy money....! But it's not, most men want MORE than just a basic stick-it-in-and-spunk service, they want kissing, closeness, cuddling, intimacy and not necessarily penetration...and that doesn't include the men who want the domination stuff...and then is it really worth anyone risking their health and safety arguing with men who want more than just a wet hole to stick it in...

[Daffodil]

Dani and CTG. Here's something you might not know...a lot of us have jobs where we have to do unpleasant and sometimes unsafe things. Prossies often make out they're the only 'profession' who do things they don't want to in their 'work'.

[Jimmyredcab]

I predominantly punt around the £150 mark so I am interested in hearing about these £80/hour ones that are great.

Since it's easy to find them, could you share 5 of these £80/hr ones with every one in this thread ?

Many thanks.

Brilliant post.

I am sick of hearing about these excellent £80 an hour pro$$ies --------------- where the fuck are they.   

[AnthG]

The actual shagging bit is easy,

Then how come so many girls are so terrible at it?

They refuse to look at you during sex. And they complain about their legs hurting after only a few mins of them ontop.

[Sailormack]

Dani and CTG. Here's something you might not know...a lot of us have jobs where we have to do unpleasant and sometimes unsafe things. Prossies often make out they're the only 'profession' who do things they don't want to in their 'work'.

Yes but you're forgetting they are women, the equal but privileged.

The possessor of the magic vagina 

[Ali Katt]

Then how come so many girls are so terrible at it?

They refuse to look at you during sex. And they complain about their legs hurting after only a few mins of them ontop.

Many are terrible at it. The reasons you give I can't relate to. For me it's fake orgasms and the proverbial sack o' spuds positions.

[Jack_soa]

Brilliant post.

I am sick of hearing about these excellent £80 an hour pro$$ies --------------- where the fuck are they.   

I posted a review the other day, its in East London not too sure if you are close however. 

[Dani]

Then how come so many girls are so terrible at it?

They refuse to look at you during sex. And they complain about their legs hurting after only a few mins of them ontop.

Bloody hell I'm a fatty with a condition that affects my muscles and even I can manage around 10mins on top before my legs start to ache.  You are either picking very unfit girls or lazy cows. 
Here's a tip, instead on them kneeling get them to squat over you.  It will strengthen their leg muscles doing squats and make it better for you too

[Dani]

Dani and CTG. Here's something you might not know...a lot of us have jobs where we have to do unpleasant and sometimes unsafe things. Prossies often make out they're the only 'profession' who do things they don't want to in their 'work'.

That is true but how many of them have to stick the unpleasant or unsafe things in their mouth and pretend they are enjoying it?

I was a midwife and in training I had to do normal nursing duties and I have done some very unpleasant things, including being vomited and shit on but they were much easier to deal with than being intimate with someone who has awful oral hygiene or even worse genital hygiene and being expected to want their tongues or cocks in our mouths.

I am not complaining as in the most part I like my job but you have to be realistic and realise to do what we do commands a high hourly rate otherwise no one would do it.  Like I said, Imagine a fat, hairy smelly, 70 year old woman with three black stumps in her mouth for teeth and no visible gum line, who had a quick wipe of her bits but not washed properly for months, how much would you charge to go down on her?  £10 an hour, £100, £1000, millions?  Most of you would never do it not for any amount as it really is awful.
That however is our reality.  We wish everyone would shower and be fresh and sometimes it seems they are until you get your mouth round it and suck out the muck under the foreskin (yes it has happened to me),  Believe me I earnt every penny

[Jason]

I am not complaining as in the most part I like my job but you have to be realistic and realise to do what we do commands a high hourly rate otherwise no one would do it.  Like I said, Imagine a fat, hairy smelly, 70 year old woman with three black stumps in her mouth for teeth and no visible gum line, who had a quick wipe of her bits but not washed properly for months, how much would you charge to go down on her?  £10 an hour, £100, £1000, millions?  Most of you would never do it not for any amount as it really is awful.
That however is our reality.  We wish everyone would shower and be fresh and sometimes it seems they are until you get your mouth round it and suck out the muck under the foreskin (yes it has happened to me),  Believe me I earned every penny

So your whole argument about charging high prices is because you are being repelled by old/unhygienic clients? So what about if a client is good looking, clean, young, skilful? Would you give him a discount? The answer is "No, the prices are fixed and same for everyone". 

[Dani]

So your whole argument about charging high prices is because you are being repelled by old/unhygienic clients? So what about if a client is good looking, clean, young, skilful? Would you give him a discount? The answer is "No, the prices are fixed and same for everyone". 

You have no idea what I charge regulars or if I give discounts so why even say that?  If I have really enjoyed a booking I will often offer some money back.  However good looking doesn't turn me on, neither does young, but a middle aged polite, funny and intelligent man who presses the right buttons would always get a discount just as my regulars do

[Strawberry]

You have no idea what I charge regulars or if I give discounts so why even say that?  If I have really enjoyed a booking I will often offer some money back.  However good looking doesn't turn me on, neither does young, but a middle aged polite, funny and intelligent man who presses the right buttons would always get a discount just as my regulars do

Or simply someone who is reliable, polite, and doesn't faff around. Discounts can also be in the form of extra time.

I'm attracted to men of a wide range of ages, men most likely to turn me on are same age or even up to 30 years older . Also my working life is not my private life, I'm there to offer a service, not chat someone up.

[Jason]

You have no idea what I charge regulars or if I give discounts so why even say that?  If I have really enjoyed a booking I will often offer some money back.  However good looking doesn't turn me on, neither does young, but a middle aged polite, funny and intelligent man who presses the right buttons would always get a discount just as my regulars do

Next time try harder to convince us that prossies are not greedy and don't charge high because they want plenty of tax free money. I don't know how much you charge per hour but let’s say it is £100. How much would you have given back if the guy was as good as you descibe? £20? £40? Still you earn £60-£80ph for doing something extremely pleasant and you completely enjoy (as you say).  You will never charge the same as you would have earned for doing the nurse, which btw is unpleasant. Tell us now you give freebies.

[Festisio]

If I have really enjoyed a booking I will often offer some money back.

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[Dani]

You will never charge the same as you would have earned for doing the nurse, which btw is unpleasant. Tell us now you give freebies.

I never give freebies.  I may over run free of charge if I am enjoying myself but at the end of the day I do it to earn money so why would I give freebies?

It doesn't matter how much of a discount I give.  You need to remember it is hard to be turned on all day every day.  It just doesn't happen.  Its a job.  We pretend most of the time.   Most clients are pleasant but not someone I would ever have sex with in real life as I am not attracted to them.  Its that simple.  Men pay the amount as they know they are guaranteed sex no matter who they are or what they look like. 
The fact is we see a lot more men we are not attracted to than we do ones we are attracted to.  I will probably see 3 or 4 a month that take my fancy and probably dozens that do not appeal to me at all. 
The point is if the money was much lower NO ONE would do this job.  It is that simple.  Women would not suck cocks of old, ugly or smelly men or even men they don't fancy unless there is a very good financial compensation for doing so

[Jason]

I am not complaining as in the most part I like my job but you have to be realistic and realise to do what we do commands a high hourly rate otherwise no one would do it. 

However good looking doesn't turn me on, neither does young, but a middle aged polite, funny and intelligent man who presses the right buttons would always get a discount just as my regulars do

You need to remember it is hard to be turned on all day every day.  It just doesn't happen.  Its a job.  We pretend most of the time. Most clients are pleasant but not someone I would ever have sex with in real life as I am not attracted to them. The fact is we see a lot more men we are not attracted to than we do ones we are attracted to. I will probably see 3 or 4 a month that take my fancy and probably dozens that do not appeal to me at all.
The point is if the money was much lower NO ONE would do this job. It is that simple.  Women would not suck cocks of old, ugly or smelly men or even men they don't fancy unless there is a very good financial compensation for doing so

So after all you are getting paid high for just being good actresses of pretending you enjoy sex with someone who you are not attracted to or because your libido is not high all the time or because you dislike sucking old, ugly, smelly men (who are only a small proportion according to what you say)?

[Strawberry]

I never give freebies.  I may over run free of charge if I am enjoying myself but at the end of the day I do it to earn money so why would I give freebies?

It doesn't matter how much of a discount I give.  You need to remember it is hard to be turned on all day every day.  It just doesn't happen.  Its a job.  We pretend most of the time.   Most clients are pleasant but not someone I would ever have sex with in real life as I am not attracted to them.  Its that simple.  Men pay the amount as they know they are guaranteed sex no matter who they are or what they look like. 
The fact is we see a lot more men we are not attracted to than we do ones we are attracted to.  I will probably see 3 or 4 a month that take my fancy and probably dozens that do not appeal to me at all. 
The point is if the money was much lower NO ONE would do this job.  It is that simple.  Women would not suck cocks of old, ugly or smelly men or even men they don't fancy unless there is a very good financial compensation for doing so

It's not even about being attracted, I'd hazard a guess that most women (and many men) if they had a line of partners they were attracted to, still wouldn't spend their time having sex with them on demand.

[Daffodil]

That is true but how many of them have to stick the unpleasant or unsafe things in their mouth and pretend they are enjoying it?

I was a midwife and in training I had to do normal nursing duties and I have done some very unpleasant things, including being vomited and shit on but they were much easier to deal with than being intimate with someone who has awful oral hygiene or even worse genital hygiene and being expected to want their tongues or cocks in our mouths.

I am not complaining as in the most part I like my job but you have to be realistic and realise to do what we do commands a high hourly rate otherwise no one would do it.  Like I said, Imagine a fat, hairy smelly, 70 year old woman with three black stumps in her mouth for teeth and no visible gum line, who had a quick wipe of her bits but not washed properly for months, how much would you charge to go down on her?  £10 an hour, £100, £1000, millions?  Most of you would never do it not for any amount as it really is awful.
That however is our reality.  We wish everyone would shower and be fresh and sometimes it seems they are until you get your mouth round it and suck out the muck under the foreskin (yes it has happened to me),  Believe me I earnt every penny

You're trying to turn it into a pissing contest. Just because you say your 'job' is worse that job x doesn't make it so.

Take a North Sea fisherman. Ok, I believe they have potential to earn good money, but not a prossie's hourly rate. Despite that, most of their time is spent in terrible and unsafe conditions. I believe I read it is the most dangerous job in the UK.

I don't believe it is entirely about the money. I think prossies are wired differently to most women (who wouldn't dream of being a prossie at any price) and the rates you charge are in fact dictated by the market. £20 per hour would still be excellent money for most and far in excess of what you could earn in a different job. You might become choosier, but I think most would still do it. Luckily for you though, that is never going to happen.

In terms of would a man sleep with somebody horrendous? Probably not many, but then not many women will either. You form the minority. Also, seeing as this is a forum for punters (who I would argue are a group of men amongst the most shallow, interested mostly in looks and body and sexual services) you're probably asking a biased audience.

You claim some people who book are not hygienic. Well you don't have to see them then. That's your choice. It is universally accepted that if a guy comes with cheese on his knob who are perfectly entitled to turn them away. You also imply in a previous post that these same guys who you dislike so much you will still take a repeat booking from 

Yes there are undoubtedly unsavoury aspects of being a prossie, but there are many in other jobs too. I get tired of prossies claiming that they have it so bad they can justify the prices they charge. You 'earn' your money because men are prepared to pay it.

[dilettante]

The other aspect is that if sex were cheaper we could have more of it, which wouldn't necessarily be a good thing.  I'll be slated for saying that, but often when I'm horny during an interim w/e I'm only stopped from phoning someone by the need to control my finances.  Is this a fair point, that most men would still spend their "punting budget" but just have more sex, if it were cheaper?

It's been discussed before, there's a market for this and you see WGs raising and lowering prices till they get the right proportion between earning enough and keeping busy enough.  I wouldn't like to see it as compensation money for having them grin and bear it, as Dani says, rather that if I wave enough £20ers in front of them their eyes will light up with the purest love and their hearts and souls will be mine for as long as the clock is ticking - wishful thinking, I know!

[Daffodil]

You have no idea what I charge regulars or if I give discounts so why even say that?  If I have really enjoyed a booking I will often offer some money back.  However good looking doesn't turn me on, neither does young, but a middle aged polite, funny and intelligent man who presses the right buttons would always get a discount just as my regulars do

A few caveats here like 'if I have really enjoyed a booking' and 'I will often offer some money back'. Probably leaves a very small number, if indeed any. I imagine most men wouldn't accept either, so the gesture is probably made in that expectation, if it's made at all.

It makes sound business sense to drop prices for regulars, particularly if you like them more (or dislike them less) than others, if only because you know they're not a time waster. A reduced rate is beneficial to both parties, it is not a favour solely to the punter.

[Festisio]

I am sick of hearing about these excellent £80 an hour pro$$ies --------------- where the fuck are they.   

It is rather telling how he hasn't come back with any, since, as we both know, they don't exist.

[Ali Katt]

In terms of would a man sleep with somebody horrendous? Probably not many, but then not many women will either. You form the minority. Also, seeing as this is a forum for punters (who I would argue are a group of men amongst the most shallow, interested mostly in looks and body and sexual services) you're probably asking a biased audience.

I mean when I was in my teens I would probably have slept with any dog if the opportunities were there. I did refuse a girl because she had what looked like herpes around her mouth maybe it was acne. Now, I have made jokes about not wanting to shag an escort that I could pull down my local Gala bingo, not because I resent paying for it; but because my standards are higher than they once were that's progress.

I'm personally happy to see girls I think I will have the best time with. Which means I won't necessarily go for the best looking if she seemed like a bitch, but I would be wasting time and money if I went for someone I didn't find attractive.

[Festisio]

Try DFK on an old person who due to age and bad oral hygiene over the years has three pegs instead of teeth and a thick spongy tongue with little dents all over it.  A bit like having a dry bath sponge filling your mouth.  I had that today yet managed to hide how I felt and give him a bloody good time so much so he has already re booked.

Was that the first time you saw Horizontal Pleasures?

[Rochdull lad]

I am sick of hearing about these excellent £80 an hour pro$$ies --------------- where the fuck are they.   

Well, Jimmy; the £80 p.h. MILFs I enjoy are not only not in your locality; but, to judge from your general description of what your preference is, they would also not be the kind of WGs you like to see.

For me, that's the great thing about punting; each of us can hopefully find the sort of girl he enjoys a punt with at a price he can afford.

I know your punting career's three times longer than mine; but it only took me a year or so to discover that I enjoyed seeing MILFs much more than the younger girls.  On the rare occasions these days that I see a younger lass [who, to read between the lines of many of your posts is, I guess, your preference], I almost always find it a less satisfactory experience than seeing a MILF.

I know I could see more expensive MILFs oop here in t'north; but why would I, when seeing them would mean that I couldn't afford to punt as often as I can presently afford to, with the £80 ph girls I enjoy?

[Bangers and Gash]

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This one had me chuckling away earlier. Another classic from car crash rhonasg. 

 So i have had black / brown dyed hair for a while now but i wanted to switch to bleach blonde but you can't put bleach over dark hair dye i just goes bright ginger. So i decided my grow out was long enough & i cut it, turns out it wasn't long enough, my hair is so short it sticks up, i proceeded to bleach my natural blonde hair, used toner & everything to make it basically white. I know have spiky ginger hair!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no style or no amount of toner to sort it out so my question is... do clients find it weird if you wear a wig.... plus it's catch 22... i need to earn money to afford a decent wig to hide this hair disaster but i reckon i'll get walk outs (not happened to me yet, i can imagine it's pretty degrading)

Thoughts ????(yes it really IS that terrible) I'm supposed to be a sex goddess but i look like a ginger teenager rebelling in my punk phase.

My advice is to go buy a nice pair of dungaree's.

[overhead]

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This one had me chuckling away earlier. Another classic from car crash rhonasg. 

 So i have had black / brown dyed hair for a while now but i wanted to switch to bleach blonde but you can't put bleach over dark hair dye i just goes bright ginger. So i decided my grow out was long enough & i cut it, turns out it wasn't long enough, my hair is so short it sticks up, i proceeded to bleach my natural blonde hair, used toner & everything to make it basically white. I know have spiky ginger hair!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no style or no amount of toner to sort it out so my question is... do clients find it weird if you wear a wig.... plus it's catch 22... i need to earn money to afford a decent wig to hide this hair disaster but i reckon i'll get walk outs (not happened to me yet, i can imagine it's pretty degrading)

Thoughts ????(yes it really IS that terrible) I'm supposed to be a sex goddess but i look like a ginger teenager rebelling in my punk phase.

My advice is to go buy a nice pair of dungaree's.

I find it difficult to say this in case I'm thought of as a bit fluffy, but I do feel a certain amount of affection for WG's that I meet, otherwise I couldn't do it. I'm sure Rhonasg isn't everyone's cup of tea, and probably not mine either, but there is a human being in there somewhere and I just wonder how clever it is to poke fun at someone having a bit of strife like that. I certainly couldn't do it.